Im going to look like a stalker here lol but is fine. I ended up seeing that review of Moon from that panda guy and saw this as I was looking if anyone said any good counter arguments but saw you said this
Im just going to quote myself from thread I posted in just a bit ago which led to this situation
Deknijff said: But hot damn there sure is a lot of lying or misunderstanding of the kind of character Tsukasa and Nasa is from those who dont like the series
Will just quote that review by RebelPanda that Opticflash posted and linked so Im not strawmannirg anyone
Tsukasa is what would happen if Reddit engineered the perfect anime wife. She's like Nasa's maid… with benefits. She cooks, cleans, compliments him, and does whatever he wants with no complaints. She is incapable of making decisions in her relationship with Nasa. Which I'm sure is a turn on for a lot of people. In the first episode, Nasa holds Tsukasa's hand a little too tight and says a lot of creepy shit. She gets uncomfortable and speaks up. Nasa calls her an "All-I-can-grab" and says, "Marriage is awesome." Tsukasa is concerned, then she tacitly accepts his advances to appease him. In traditional relationships, men wear the pants. Their opinions on everything relating to the home and marriage are decisive. That's why there's no conflict in their relationship. Tsukasa never voices her own opinion, despite showing that she disagrees with Nasa
But fucking yikes lol. Tsukasa can't make her own decisions? What is she doing right here then?
and here ?
Tsukasa is very open about her opinion along voicing it so no clue what the fuck you people are talking about with her just doing whatever Nasa wants without complaints or issues
Then there is also that horrible misrepresentation of the hand holding scene
Here the actual scene
He says marriage is like a buffet of hand holding for life. Not that Tsukasa is his personal all he can grab sex toy nor does he say anything she finds creepy and she even looks happy here despite whatever one may think as a outsider looking in listening to their conversation
Nasa of course is a major perv though lol who gets turned on from taking pictures of Tsukasa which she finds embarrassing but she knows he a good person so it doesnt bother her too much
All the manga pages I posted have been adapted into the anime so Im not skipping ahead of the anime to make my point
But you should know basically his whole review is just up right deceiving if not written from ignorance honestly in how he writes it which had given you the wrong impression here. I wont promise you'll enjoy the anime but please dont decide to not give something a try because a badly written view point
Sadly my source for Dousei Jidai was my local library in France. It's not the first time someone asks, and as far as I'm aware there is no english translation.
Sorry I can't help you :/
It's not necessary to get the gist of what's going on, but it is technically a prequel intended for an audience already familiar with Universal Century Gundam. Whether you want to watch it first or after some older entries is up to you. The manga is also worth a try (it covers the whole 0079 storyline with a few corrections here and there, and the collector's edition is in full colour.)
Interesting theory, although I don't really subscribe to the notion that Enzo was suffering internally and that was the primary reason for his outburst. Apart from kind of just being a depressing point of view, I don't think it follows how Enzo was shown as a character. Not to say you can't infer the possibility given his circumstances faced throughout the series, but when I recall who Enzo is, I remember a cheerful guy who acted a bit of a goof in front of his family, instead of being this calm, collected guy trying to maintain the facade that everything is alright. He wore his heart on his sleeve more often than not.
Enzo's outburst came after the family had returned almost as if it were fated and, more specifically, after one of the characters said they had the chance to return to the way things were before. The reason isn't explicitly stated, but judging from what is said in the last chapter, it was an act done more for their own sake than Enzo and Nanami. They had all come back with their own baggage and if they had stayed together as a close-knit family, may never have been able to take responsibility for themselves and deal with their problems. Enzo was a good father figure to these people and they learned a lot, but at that point, their home could be viewed as more of a burden to them. There's a line I remember in the last chapter that goes something like "In order to be happy, you have to be in the right place at the right time". What they needed at that point was space from each other, so Enzo sent them away to live with their own parents so that, in time, they would be able to live happy and full lives of their own, which is reinforced in the last chapter through how these character view themselves (happy with who they became) and when they reminisce about their time spent with Enzo (too young & dumb at the time to know his reasons).
Also I feel it's important that I point out my issue with the ending isn't with the twist itself, but the execution of it. Looking at the kind of familial drama Hotman portarys; the intertwined subplot of each characters and their perspectives, having them separate towards the end seems appropriate narratively and isn't at odds with the themes or topics covered earlier in the series. But using the twist in the 2nd last chapter, followed by the author justifying the move through most of the dialogue and exposition in the last chapter is what I'm not satisfied with. It isn't that it doesn't make sense, but that it felt too forced as a conclusion.
You're now the 4th person I've met who has also read Hotman lol. Easily my favourite slice of life and one of the best example of melodrama I've ever seen. The ending sucks which is a shame because if it weren't for the conclusion being so rushed and underwhelming it probably would be my favourite manga. Hotman had me tearing up more than a handful of times.
Regarding Enzo, I think there are times where the author reverts his character back to his cheery, aloof traits as he's gradually developing with his relationships. I remember the slow build to his romance with another teacher (her name escapes me) and they even share a kiss at the end of one volume, only for that to be pushed aside until the whole arc with
her lover
that comes up later in the story.
Glad you hear you enjoyed it. I hardly see anyone mention the manga or its author Shou Kitagawa despite his importance to the industry.
There were only a dozen or so chapters available back when I was reading it. It's a worthwhile sequel that I enjoyed reading but hadn't come close to reaching the emotional peaks of the original story then.
I found Angel Beats to be funny and sweet, but definitely not a deep or artistic series like Haibane Renmei. I've never heard of The Good Place. I'll have to check that out!
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now I just hope you'll end up enjoying the series so I didn't waste your time
Im just going to quote myself from thread I posted in just a bit ago which led to this situation
But hot damn there sure is a lot of lying or misunderstanding of the kind of character Tsukasa and Nasa is from those who dont like the series
Will just quote that review by RebelPanda that Opticflash posted and linked so Im not strawmannirg anyone
and here ?
Tsukasa is very open about her opinion along voicing it so no clue what the fuck you people are talking about with her just doing whatever Nasa wants without complaints or issues
Then there is also that horrible misrepresentation of the hand holding scene
Here the actual scene
He says marriage is like a buffet of hand holding for life. Not that Tsukasa is his personal all he can grab sex toy nor does he say anything she finds creepy and she even looks happy here despite whatever one may think as a outsider looking in listening to their conversation
Nasa of course is a major perv though lol who gets turned on from taking pictures of Tsukasa which she finds embarrassing but she knows he a good person so it doesnt bother her too much
But you should know basically his whole review is just up right deceiving if not written from ignorance honestly in how he writes it which had given you the wrong impression here. I wont promise you'll enjoy the anime but please dont decide to not give something a try because a badly written view point
Sorry I can't help you :/
Enzo's outburst came after the family had returned almost as if it were fated and, more specifically, after one of the characters said they had the chance to return to the way things were before. The reason isn't explicitly stated, but judging from what is said in the last chapter, it was an act done more for their own sake than Enzo and Nanami. They had all come back with their own baggage and if they had stayed together as a close-knit family, may never have been able to take responsibility for themselves and deal with their problems. Enzo was a good father figure to these people and they learned a lot, but at that point, their home could be viewed as more of a burden to them. There's a line I remember in the last chapter that goes something like "In order to be happy, you have to be in the right place at the right time". What they needed at that point was space from each other, so Enzo sent them away to live with their own parents so that, in time, they would be able to live happy and full lives of their own, which is reinforced in the last chapter through how these character view themselves (happy with who they became) and when they reminisce about their time spent with Enzo (too young & dumb at the time to know his reasons).
Also I feel it's important that I point out my issue with the ending isn't with the twist itself, but the execution of it. Looking at the kind of familial drama Hotman portarys; the intertwined subplot of each characters and their perspectives, having them separate towards the end seems appropriate narratively and isn't at odds with the themes or topics covered earlier in the series. But using the twist in the 2nd last chapter, followed by the author justifying the move through most of the dialogue and exposition in the last chapter is what I'm not satisfied with. It isn't that it doesn't make sense, but that it felt too forced as a conclusion.
Regarding Enzo, I think there are times where the author reverts his character back to his cheery, aloof traits as he's gradually developing with his relationships. I remember the slow build to his romance with another teacher (her name escapes me) and they even share a kiss at the end of one volume, only for that to be pushed aside until the whole arc with
Glad you hear you enjoyed it. I hardly see anyone mention the manga or its author Shou Kitagawa despite his importance to the industry.