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Jun 13, 2012 1:22 AM
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Christ the story is moving faster than ever. Bankai stealing
Jun 13, 2012 1:27 AM
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Damn, a bankai stealing! Gotei 13 are in the pinch!
Jun 13, 2012 1:36 AM
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They can probably get their bankai back if they destroy that object he was holding. To me that object look similair to the substitute shininigami badge.
Jun 13, 2012 1:43 AM
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darkwap said:
They can probably get their bankai back if they destroy that object he was holding. To me that object look similar to the substitute shininigami badge.


only in size

aaaaaaaaaaaand through the use of plot armor, Ichigo somehow isn't affected at all by this maneuver. ughh....its always Ichigo -_-
Jun 13, 2012 1:56 AM
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Zodiac_Prince- only in size

aaaaaaaaaaaand through the use of plot armor, Ichigo somehow isn't affected at all by this maneuver. ughh....its always Ichigo -_-

Well Ichigo's Bankai is basically just a speed boost so there wouldn't be much to steal anyway right?! XD

Anyway, I'm pretty curious to see how the Gotei 13 will fight these OP Quincy without their Bankais. I still say they should unleash Aizen on them!
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Jun 13, 2012 1:56 AM
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It looks like Ichigo's Fullbring plot device on his neck is the ONLY HOPE!!!!.............. >.>
Jun 13, 2012 2:19 AM
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Eh, it was okay.

Also, is it me, or does this guy kinda look like Kaien?



I mean, can't see his face and all, but the mouth / chin / hair reminded me of him.
Jun 13, 2012 2:20 AM
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stealing bankai or rather i think the quincies steal any spiritual powers since that is how they are right? they absorbed spiritual powers from the environment


Reishi Absorption: Although Shingiami and Quincy both use Reiryoku when fighting, they both have a totally opposite fighting style. Shinigami use the spiritual power created from their soul in conjunction with a Zanpakutō to fight against the Hollows. You can say they fight using the power within. On the contrary, a Quincy uses the Reishi in the atmosphere, and combines it with his/her Reiryoku to create weapons. They fight using the power outside. They have an easier time collecting this energy in environments with higher concentrations of spiritual particles such as in Soul Society or Hueco Mundo

source: http://bleach.wikia.com/wiki/Quincy
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Jun 13, 2012 2:21 AM
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I think that's how the quincy manage to beat all the arrancar in Hueco Muendo, guess the Gotei needs to destroy or do something about that amulet object thing they use !
Jun 13, 2012 2:24 AM

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the question is can the stole 2 bankai's in a single object?? couse they are more shinigamis that know bankai that they are quincies
Jun 13, 2012 2:36 AM

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I must say, the Quincy are being hyped up as the most powerful enemies ever. I wonder if any of the captains will die in the coming battle without their Bankais?
Jun 13, 2012 2:43 AM

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"We know that quincies can seal away our bankai, so lets use bankai on them."

Please, Kubo-sensei! Be my new father and TEACH me!

*universal facepalm*
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Jun 13, 2012 2:46 AM

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Now what! =S
Jun 13, 2012 2:49 AM

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"We know that quincies can seal away our bankai, so lets use bankai on them."

Please, Kubo-sensei! Be my new father and TEACH me!

*universal facepalm*


Thats actually a good tactic. Captains wanted to use bankai so they could figure out on how quincies seal it so they could unseal with.

What they did not count was that quincies do not seal bankais. They steal it.

Its an extension of normal quincy powers - quincies fight by using energy of their surroundings. The VR have been shown to be able to absorb their surroundings and add it to themselves. Thus they do not seal bankais they STEAL them.

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aaaaaaaaaaaand through the use of plot armor, Ichigo somehow isn't affected at all by this maneuver. ughh....its always Ichigo -_-


Not plot armor.

He is not just immune for sake of immunity. We have already seen that "-getsu" line of swords seems to be unique and persist through kurosaki family. This arc is supposed to reveal all msiteries behind Ichigo's birth and specialness.
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He stole the bankai.. that's a little interesting.
Jun 13, 2012 3:06 AM

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Intriguing chapter. Can't wait to see next chapter!
Jun 13, 2012 3:19 AM

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Pointlessly huge panels...nothing new in particular
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Jun 13, 2012 3:25 AM

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did anyone els notice the swastica


i find it odd it was put in though we know ichigo usualy has one some place in some form
Jun 13, 2012 3:35 AM

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Then Kenpachi comes surely he doesnt need a bankai XD
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did anyone els notice the swastica


i find it odd it was put in though we know ichigo usualy has one some place in some form


Oh look, yet another one who can't be bothered to learn about stuff he is reading.

Its a kanji meaning BAN
Jun 13, 2012 4:04 AM

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Not particularly interesting, mostly because we still now nothing about the guys they are fighting (expect for the fact that they will end up not being important at all). Well, whatever...
Jun 13, 2012 4:12 AM

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Fai said:
imperlast said:
did anyone els notice the swastica


i find it odd it was put in though we know ichigo usualy has one some place in some form


Oh look, yet another one who can't be bothered to learn about stuff he is reading.

Its a kanji meaning BAN


it not like im obsed and read every little detale about every litle thing for bleach,
Jun 13, 2012 4:14 AM

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Now they are stealing the bankai and there is definitely something up with their blood, it's the second time it has been implied to be special.
Jun 13, 2012 4:14 AM

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"faster than ever"
WHAT THE FUCK
You need 10 chapters of these combined to call that a below-average pacing
This is too shitty
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Jun 13, 2012 4:15 AM

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This one was funny! Hahaha
To see 4 taichous doing that and their faces after it lol xD
Jun 13, 2012 4:25 AM
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Eh, it was okay.

Also, is it me, or does this guy kinda look like Kaien?



I mean, can't see his face and all, but the mouth / chin / hair reminded me of him.


Every bleach character has that mouth/chin/hair thing going on
Jun 13, 2012 4:30 AM

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I just don't get it why Soifon did Bankai too ?
I dont think it's rational,,

well yeah, different story if that only for "observe" 'quincy's power,,
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Jun 13, 2012 4:59 AM
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Then Kenpachi comes surely he doesnt need a bankai XD


yep, waiting for Kenpachi to slaughter all of them
Jun 13, 2012 5:05 AM

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Christ the story is moving faster than ever.


16 chapters to set up the plot is fast to you? 2 volumes of nothing but telling again and again the same plot points that were explained ages ago is what you call "faster than ever"? Do I need to remember you that back in the first days of Bleach its longest storyline, namely 6/17, lasted only 9 chapters? The pacing of Bleach is still as slow as molasses, and this chapter does not help since it was only dialogue with a plot twist at the end.
Jun 13, 2012 5:15 AM

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The first white-haired guy that was cut down, was that the officer from a few chapters ago who gave that long explanation on "why we fight the quincies"?

Ayway, the chapters feel too short now. If this was a manuscript or a novel, this "chapter" would equal three lines.

At least they didn't steal a bankai that we hadn't seen before... as someone already said here, there are a lot of bankais left.

There are also a few vaizards, Zaraki and Yamamoto. The fight isn't over... until they steal Yamamoto's bankai >.>

And didn't we predict the Bankai-stealing a long time ago? It doesn't seem like a stretch or a surprise to me that Ichigo is immune either.

Jun 13, 2012 5:34 AM

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where isUryū Ishida? This would be more interesting if its a Quincy vs Quincy fight or if Ryūken Ishida would come fight too haven't seen him for a while. As for plot progression so far, its been boring, and the Captains did not see the stealing Bankai coming so now no one will use their Bankai now. They should not fear, they can still use Kidō, unless something seals/steals that way too.
Jun 13, 2012 5:48 AM

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The 'we're gonna get raped' expression on the captains was priceless.

Kubo could of included all the captain bankai releases in a single page...waste of ink but oh well.

I can't wait to see Kenpachi when he comes around >:D

Can't wait for the next chapter. I wonder if the lieutenants will be of any use :-/

Kubo better not be cockteasing and switchback to Ichigo's fight...I wanna see the captains without bankais getting raped!

Well Byakuya might not get raped since he can use all sorts of kidos.

Also, I can't wait to see Mayuri fight...he will prob figure out a way to beat them without bankai since he'll use some poison or drug and make the quincies his lab-rats

Can't wait to see moar of the waifu material Bambietta Basterbine :D
Jun 13, 2012 5:55 AM

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kenpachi plz


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Fai said:
imperlast said:
did anyone els notice the swastica


i find it odd it was put in though we know ichigo usualy has one some place in some form


Oh look, yet another one who can't be bothered to learn about stuff he is reading.

Its a kanji meaning BAN


Actually, the point here is not WHAT this symbol is, but WHY it's there. What's the point of emphasizing this one kanji of "bankai"? I think there's clearly some link being made here by Kubo between how Quincy's steal the bankai and Ichigo's Tensa Zangetsu - maybe Ichigo's bankai is some kind of "original, first bankai" crap and that's why it's immune to this technique (and that's why "ban" kanji is so prominent in his bankai forms).
I hope it's something more and better than that, because such a lazy and uninspired way of explaining it would suck.
Jun 13, 2012 6:13 AM

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They can steal Bankai's..... o.o

still no Ichigo :(
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Jun 13, 2012 6:28 AM
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Well, that was boring. We don't get any new information out of it beyond that the Quincy steal Bankai instead of sealing them. This whole arc just feels drawn out and boring.
Jun 13, 2012 6:31 AM

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Then Kenpachi comes surely he doesnt need a bankai XD


There is no need for him, he's strong enough without Bankai.
This chapter was fast.
Jun 13, 2012 6:44 AM

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So the Quincy are like a bunch of Amon, only instead taking away bending they've all taken away their bankai.

That's not me saying anything about originality btw. I just couldn't help but make that comparison.
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kratos_aurion said:
-Ange_L said:
Then Kenpachi comes surely he doesnt need a bankai XD


There is no need for him, he's strong enough without Bankai.
This chapter was fast.

Thats's right, can't wait for Zaraki Kenpachi to pawn them<3
Jun 13, 2012 6:47 AM

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I wonder at which point will SS's pride have sunken enough and they start crying to Aizen for welp :))
Jun 13, 2012 6:54 AM

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Still waiting for the bamkai's that we didn't get to watch.
As said, waiting for Kenpachi to save the day :P
Jun 13, 2012 7:00 AM

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Well Byakuya might not get raped since he can use all sorts of kidos.


which will do jack-shit to quincies, just as any reiatsu based attack(like GT did nothing to Kirge).

The only way as Allon has shown is to just outright overpower them with physical strength or reiatsu till they die.

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Fai said:
imperlast said:
did anyone els notice the swastica


i find it odd it was put in though we know ichigo usualy has one some place in some form


Oh look, yet another one who can't be bothered to learn about stuff he is reading.

Its a kanji meaning BAN


Actually, the point here is not WHAT this symbol is, but WHY it's there. What's the point of emphasizing this one kanji of "bankai"? I think there's clearly some link being made here by Kubo between how Quincy's steal the bankai and Ichigo's Tensa Zangetsu - maybe Ichigo's bankai is some kind of "original, first bankai" crap and that's why it's immune to this technique (and that's why "ban" kanji is so prominent in his bankai forms).
I hope it's something more and better than that, because such a lazy and uninspired way of explaining it would suck.


Because of Quincy item getting a shape of of BAN kanji.

Byakuya is saying that its not a seal (on quincy item). its a kanji for "BAN", implying that they took the bankai instead of just placing a seal through the item.

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I wonder at which point will SS's pride have sunken enough and they start crying to Aizen for welp :))

Most likely it won't.

yamaji will die, as well as some usual stuff, SS will be almost completely decimated. Ichigo will come back from HM, go "well, fucK" and decide to free Aizen with captains saying its a bad idea.

There has been foreshadowing of Aizen and Ichigo double-teaming Buckbeard as far as the start of FB arc.

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Eh, it was okay.

Also, is it me, or does this guy kinda look like Kaien?



I mean, can't see his face and all, but the mouth / chin / hair reminded me of him.


Every bleach character has that mouth/chin/hair thing going on


The speculations are because


But IMo, no thats not him.
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Okay, so I just skipped to the end of the forum here without reading everyone's post (sorry in a rush), but let's take note:

Shunsui's and Ukitake's bankais are still intact, far as we know.

And now we play the waiting game...

Overall, badass chapter with some epic art toward the end
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Really, really enjoyed this chapter. I wonder if only one Bankai can be absorbed at time.

I still remember when Wonderweiss stole Yamamoto's bankai. He still beat his ass.
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Really, really enjoyed this chapter. I wonder if only one Bankai can be absorbed at time.

I still remember when Wonderweiss stole Yamamoto's bankai. He still beat his ass.


Wonderweiss did not steal. he sealed.

Quincies stole, that means that the bankai powers most likely are added to their abilities just like with Kirge and Allon.
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Well,this was an unexpected turn of events.And by unexpected,I mean COMPLETELY EXPECTED......................Well,I had a feeling.
Now that the captains lost what makes them captains,they're now on the same level as their lieutenants.And when fighting foes that completely own lieutenants,it safe to say that these fights are gonna be quicker than most expected.Yeah,I give it the rest of the summer.
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Jun 13, 2012 8:41 AM

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Bankai stealing huh?

Waiting for Kenpachi to come and kick some ASS! :3
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Guys, have you noticed there are more than 7 people right now attacking the soul society!?

There is the mexican catcher guy with As Nodt...
The guy with the armored mask...
The masked guy who was the leader of the delegation who killed utakibe who's fighting Hitsugaya right now.
The guy with spikes fighting the vizard captain

So they're not all Sternritters.

Maybe sternritters have lieutenants as well like the SS ?
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Well,this was an unexpected turn of events.And by unexpected,I mean COMPLETELY EXPECTED......................Well,I had a feeling.
Now that the captains lost what makes them captains,they're now on the same level as their lieutenants.And when fighting foes that completely own lieutenants,it safe to say that these fights are gonna be quicker than most expected.Yeah,I give it the rest of the summer.


Same level? They have hado and kido, remember? They don't even need bankai to defeat their subordinates.
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Now that we know they steal Bankai's I get the feeling that we saw Sasakibe Bankai few chapters ago. He got stabbed by it and then sent flying to Yamamoto quarters.

This might be the Manga version of the Rebellion of Swords filler in anime. All the Shinigami will have to fight their Bankai again. Soifon hates her Bankai, Byakuya knows his weakness (safe range). All of them after fight with Aizen had time to work on their weakness. They might be able to use their Bankai weakness to their advantage.

Also WTH Soifon. Aren't you the sneaky type? Why go to fight in first line? Would be so much better to send someone else and then charge the rocket in some Quincy face from somewhere he doesn't expect it. If Soifon still can use Shikai it's probably better for her that way.

Glasses guy get's cut in half. He was first to lift his sword on Quincy. Maybe Unohana will takeover there. People were calling that glasses guy "Aizen like" few chapters ago. Well would be funny if he was Aizen and whole sentencing to hell was an illusion.

Will Yamamoto fight Quincy captain or just chat with him watching how Steinritter kill his Shinigami? Maybe some back story before big showdown of power?

This chapter felt so short :(
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