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Jan 25, 2015 2:46 PM
#1
title. why not delete old accounts that haven't logged on for 5 years at least ? is there really a chance of that user logging back again after so many years ?,,, it makes the username reusable too ... |
Jan 25, 2015 3:31 PM
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Jan 25, 2015 3:33 PM
#3
Tyrel said: People do come back after years of breaks/not visiting. I don't think it's fair to delete an account, so... This suggestion is a terrible idea. then people should have the option to delete their own account instead of having to delete everything on their profiles |
Jan 25, 2015 3:35 PM
#4
marriage said: Great idea. Tyrel said: People do come back after years of breaks/not visiting. I don't think it's fair to delete an account, so... This suggestion is a terrible idea. then people should have the option to delete their own account instead of having to delete everything on their profiles >Get hacked >Hacker deletes your account And even saying the whole 'Send a confirmation email X to confirm deletion' won't always work. |
Jan 25, 2015 3:37 PM
#5
Tyrel said: marriage said: Great idea. Tyrel said: People do come back after years of breaks/not visiting. I don't think it's fair to delete an account, so... This suggestion is a terrible idea. then people should have the option to delete their own account instead of having to delete everything on their profiles >Get hacked >Hacker deletes your account you can keep an export file thing of your list. and no one would ever care enough to hack into someones MAL just to delete it, this site has nothing important on it |
Jan 25, 2015 3:38 PM
#6
marriage said: Just like the people who hack accounts and post gore, amiright?Tyrel said: marriage said: Tyrel said: People do come back after years of breaks/not visiting. I don't think it's fair to delete an account, so... This suggestion is a terrible idea. then people should have the option to delete their own account instead of having to delete everything on their profiles >Get hacked >Hacker deletes your account you can keep an export file thing of your list. and no one would ever care enough to hack into someones MAL just to delete it, this site has nothing important on it |
Jan 25, 2015 3:41 PM
#7
marriage said: Which doesn't help with posts, friends, your id number, clubs, etc etc etc.Tyrel said: marriage said: Tyrel said: People do come back after years of breaks/not visiting. I don't think it's fair to delete an account, so... This suggestion is a terrible idea. then people should have the option to delete their own account instead of having to delete everything on their profiles >Get hacked >Hacker deletes your account you can keep an export file thing of your list. and no one would ever care enough to hack into someones MAL just to delete it, this site has nothing important on it |
Short of the day: Monotonous Purgatory(MAL) ✰Public Domain Club | One Piece Club✰ |
Jan 25, 2015 3:42 PM
#8
Tyrel said: marriage said: Just like the people who hack accounts and post gore, amiright?Tyrel said: marriage said: Great idea. Tyrel said: People do come back after years of breaks/not visiting. I don't think it's fair to delete an account, so... This suggestion is a terrible idea. then people should have the option to delete their own account instead of having to delete everything on their profiles >Get hacked >Hacker deletes your account you can keep an export file thing of your list. and no one would ever care enough to hack into someones MAL just to delete it, this site has nothing important on it you say that like people are on here getting hacked every day gaiaonline doesnt allow account deletion and all my embarrassing shit from when I was 12 still exists on those profiles |
Jan 25, 2015 3:43 PM
#9
IntroverTurtle said: And this sums it up.marriage said: Which doesn't help with posts, friends, your id number, clubs, etc etc etc.Tyrel said: marriage said: Great idea. Tyrel said: People do come back after years of breaks/not visiting. I don't think it's fair to delete an account, so... This suggestion is a terrible idea. then people should have the option to delete their own account instead of having to delete everything on their profiles >Get hacked >Hacker deletes your account you can keep an export file thing of your list. and no one would ever care enough to hack into someones MAL just to delete it, this site has nothing important on it |
Jan 25, 2015 3:48 PM
#10
Tyrel said: IntroverTurtle said: And this sums it up.Which doesn't help with posts, friends, your id number, clubs, etc etc etc. - Why would you want to keep your posts? Do you browse your own post history or care about your post count? - You can re-add friends and re-join clubs on a new account - Whats id # for? You are losing nothing actually important through account deletion that you cant get back by making a new account and are just paranoid that someone will care enough to hack into it |
Jan 25, 2015 4:10 PM
#11
marriage said: Tyrel said: IntroverTurtle said: Which doesn't help with posts, friends, your id number, clubs, etc etc etc. - Why would you want to keep your posts? Do you browse your own post history or care about your post count? - You can re-add friends and re-join clubs on a new account - Whats id # for? You are losing nothing actually important through account deletion that you cant get back by making a new account and are just paranoid that someone will care enough to hack into it Post numbers and when you joined MAL under your profile picture is important too some people. Having the option to delete your own account is a horrible idea, same is the suggestion to delete all accounts that are X years old. |
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Jan 25, 2015 4:11 PM
#12
marriage said: You are losing nothing actually important through account deletion that you cant get back by making a new account and are just paranoid that someone will care enough to hack into it You're assuming we can remember every single friend and club. |
Jan 25, 2015 4:23 PM
#13
mayukachan said: marriage said: You are losing nothing actually important through account deletion that you cant get back by making a new account and are just paranoid that someone will care enough to hack into it You're assuming we can remember every single friend and club. I promise no one is plotting to hack worthless MAL accounts and steal your MAL identity and post count If someone hacked your account the most they would do is join the yaoi club and give naruto a 10/10 rating if they were your true friends you would remember all of their usernames by heart |
Jan 25, 2015 4:29 PM
#14
marriage said: mayukachan said: marriage said: You are losing nothing actually important through account deletion that you cant get back by making a new account and are just paranoid that someone will care enough to hack into it You're assuming we can remember every single friend and club. I promise no one is plotting to hack worthless MAL accounts and steal your MAL identity and post count If someone hacked your account the most they would do is join the yaoi club and give naruto a 10/10 rating if they were your true friends you would remember all of their usernames by heart pffft i mean acquaintances. i talk to a lot of people here. we don't have to be friends to talk about stuff. i want my post count to reset because people keep harassing me over it |
Jan 25, 2015 4:40 PM
#15
marriage said: Someone's already hacked a MAL mod account and deleted accounts so... He also changed people's names and posted stupid stuff... The same guy who causes problems on the site every couple of months to a year so....mayukachan said: marriage said: You are losing nothing actually important through account deletion that you cant get back by making a new account and are just paranoid that someone will care enough to hack into it You're assuming we can remember every single friend and club. I promise no one is plotting to hack worthless MAL accounts and steal your MAL identity and post count If someone hacked your account the most they would do is join the yaoi club and give naruto a 10/10 rating if they were your true friends you would remember all of their usernames by heart |
Short of the day: Monotonous Purgatory(MAL) ✰Public Domain Club | One Piece Club✰ |
Jan 25, 2015 9:55 PM
#16
marriage said: That's some mighty fine reassurance you got there. Any chance you could explain that to someone who just recently accused me of hacking their account?mayukachan said: marriage said: You are losing nothing actually important through account deletion that you cant get back by making a new account and are just paranoid that someone will care enough to hack into it You're assuming we can remember every single friend and club. I promise no one is plotting to hack worthless MAL accounts and steal your MAL identity and post count |
Jan 25, 2015 9:58 PM
#17
NTAD said: Yeah man, stop hacking other people's accounts and post loli vids.marriage said: That's some mighty fine reassurance you got there. Any chance you could explain that to someone who just recently accused me of hacking their account?mayukachan said: marriage said: You are losing nothing actually important through account deletion that you cant get back by making a new account and are just paranoid that someone will care enough to hack into it You're assuming we can remember every single friend and club. I promise no one is plotting to hack worthless MAL accounts and steal your MAL identity and post count |
Jan 25, 2015 10:31 PM
#18
worldeditor11 said: I'm such a bad man. Shame on me.NTAD said: Yeah man, stop hacking other people's accounts and post loli vids.marriage said: mayukachan said: marriage said: You are losing nothing actually important through account deletion that you cant get back by making a new account and are just paranoid that someone will care enough to hack into it You're assuming we can remember every single friend and club. I promise no one is plotting to hack worthless MAL accounts and steal your MAL identity and post count |
Jan 26, 2015 3:19 AM
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Jan 26, 2015 5:54 AM
#20
I agree with this. Like there should be a rule which stipulates that you have to login at least once every 5 years. Logging in takes like 2 seconds, if you can't do that once in 5 years then what in the heck are you doing here? You obviously don't care about any friends or whatever you might have here and can just export yout list to somewhere it will actually be useful (you can even use Excel). This will make usernames reusable and will even make MAL popularity and scores more useful and reliable since troll accounts that were used to boost/drop a series rating and was never found years ago will be deleted if the users never log in (very likely since it's just a troll account anyway) |
Jan 28, 2015 2:25 PM
#22
ReaperCreeper said: marriage said: I dunno, some people are pretty salty.I promise no one is plotting to hack worthless MAL accounts and steal your MAL identity and post count Or rather they got Too Much Free Time |
Jan 30, 2015 3:08 AM
#23
KitOsborn said: Anyway, if you're so against account deletion, how about a name-change option? That way the account can be, for all intents and purposes, removed from any affiliation to your real life, yet it still exists in case you wish to reclaim it from the hackers who are clearly out to get you. And how are you supposed to log in into your renamed account if you don't know that it was renamed? |
Jan 30, 2015 4:59 AM
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Jan 30, 2015 9:53 PM
#25
how about just deleting the ones that have 0 activity whatsoever? Like 0.0 days watched/read, and 0 posts/comments? |
Jan 31, 2015 10:04 AM
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Jan 31, 2015 8:44 PM
#27
KitOsborn said: The only thing account deletion would add to the system is removal of forum posts/post counts. Now, why are you so against that? I am not against the idea of a button to nuke your account, but I don't support it nuking all traces of you on MAL. So assuming there's a time delay like facebook or whatever to circumvent abuse to it, if you had 10000 posts and the system would have to go delete all of them for you... No, posts should not be removed. If they were, you would end up with empty quotes in other people's posts, discussions that don't follow, etc. As for the old accounts thing, I think their name can be yielded upon some to-be-decided conditions that stipulate inactivity but I admit I'm not sure how to handle the old user logging back in. |
Jan 31, 2015 8:48 PM
#28
Tensho said: Agreed. Such an inclusion can and will completely break the forums. This is a tried and tested subject, as old as the concept of online forums itself. Globally deleting posts is a bad idea.KitOsborn said: The only thing account deletion would add to the system is removal of forum posts/post counts. Now, why are you so against that? I am not against the idea of a button to nuke your account, but I don't support it nuking all traces of you on MAL. So assuming there's a time delay like facebook or whatever to circumvent abuse to it, if you had 10000 posts and the system would have to go delete all of them for you... No, posts should not be removed. If they were, you would end up with empty quotes in other people's posts, discussions that don't follow, etc. As for the old accounts thing, I think their name can be yielded upon some to-be-decided conditions that stipulate inactivity but I admit I'm not sure how to handle the old user logging back in. |
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Feb 5, 2015 1:21 AM
#29
I agree with this. At least people MUST have the ability to request a deletion of the account. We need to think about the consciousness of the web and the future of the internet itself. The existing of future people is reduced on the one hand of the role of the consumers and on the other hand of the role of the SHOWING people. We don't live our lifes (become too boring), people now document it in all aspects and share and show it! We are a nation of showing people!(EVEN IF NOBODY WATCHES THE SHIT.. never mind just keep posting shit) Even today more pictures are taken and uploaded, than pics are consumed. Not people are relevant any more ... BUT the counters, klicks. This klicks, events, lists intend our lifes... [ Daseinszweck zukünftiger Menschen ausschliesslich auf einerseits die Rolle des Konsumenten (von den wenigen Nutzniessern einmal abgesehen) und andererseits auf die Rolle des Zeigenden. Man führt sein Leben nicht mehr (dazu ist es einfach zu langweilig geworden), man dokumentiert und zeigt es. Wir werden ein Volk von Zeigenden (auch wenn sich niemand den ganzen Kram mehr anschaut). Es werden heute schon mehr Bilder gemacht und hochgeladen, als Bilder angeschaut. Denn nicht die Menschen sind relevant, sondern stattdessen anoname Zähler. Ereignisse und Klicks bestimmen unser Leben und als Dauertipper können wir daran teilhaben. ] |
Feb 5, 2015 7:25 AM
#30
Z3noN said: You've always had the ability to request your account to be deleted.I agree with this. At least people MUST have the ability to request a deletion of the account. We need to think about the consciousness of the web and the future of the internet itself. |
Short of the day: Monotonous Purgatory(MAL) ✰Public Domain Club | One Piece Club✰ |
Feb 5, 2015 7:38 AM
#31
IntroverTurtle said: Z3noN said: You've always had the ability to request your account to be deleted.I agree with this. At least people MUST have the ability to request a deletion of the account. We need to think about the consciousness of the web and the future of the internet itself. He meant your account |
Feb 16, 2016 3:55 PM
#32
Feb 17, 2016 1:07 AM
#33
Annuvin said: @kiingsiize Psst, this has already been done, sort of. http://myanimelist.net/forum/?topicid=1430734 oooooh, thats cool o,o Thanks |
Sep 6, 2016 12:50 AM
#34
I didn't read all the posts here but skimmed over them. I like this idea because it would help prevent fake accounts from persisting, but above people saying they don't want to loose their accounts even after five years. There is one simple solution to that: Accounts won't be deleted. None of your information will, however, your scores won't appear in an anime's score until you relogin to your account if you're gone for 4 years. I think it's better if the time period were a bit shorter. More like 4 years. Because 4 years is still a long time. |
AyaneSep 6, 2016 12:55 AM
Sep 6, 2016 1:00 AM
#35
Ayame1 said: I didn't read all the posts here but skimmed over them. I like this idea because it would help prevent fake accounts from persisting, but above people saying they don't want to loose their accounts even after five years. There is one simple solution to that: Accounts won't be deleted. None of your information will, however, your scores won't appear in an anime's score until you relogin to your account if you're gone for 4 years. I think it's better if the time period were a bit shorter. More like 4 years. Because 4 years is still a long time. I don't really grasp what you mean. So, you are against deleting the account option, bit feel our scores will vanish until were relogin? I don't see how that would work and deleting accounts in any shape or form would always be a bad idea due to the hacking possibility. |
Sep 6, 2016 1:26 AM
#36
Kagami said: Ayame1 said: I didn't read all the posts here but skimmed over them. I like this idea because it would help prevent fake accounts from persisting, but above people saying they don't want to loose their accounts even after five years. There is one simple solution to that: Accounts won't be deleted. None of your information will, however, your scores won't appear in an anime's score until you relogin to your account if you're gone for 4 years. I think it's better if the time period were a bit shorter. More like 4 years. Because 4 years is still a long time. I don't really grasp what you mean. So, you are against deleting the account option, bit feel our scores will vanish until were relogin? I don't see how that would work and deleting accounts in any shape or form would always be a bad idea due to the hacking possibility. After 4 years, your personal ratings would not take affect on anime ratings until you logged in again, thus making your account considered active. Only accounts active within 4 years should have their scores take affect on anime pages. It would make it so fake accounts that were created just to raise or lower the rating of certain anime would eventually have their scores hidden. Because these accounts are probably never going to be logged into again anyway. Does that make sense now? A system like this would start improving anime scores after 4 years (or whatever time period they chose). Because for some reason people feel the need to create 10 accounts just to raise the rating of an anime. What do you think? |
AyaneSep 6, 2016 1:33 AM
Sep 6, 2016 1:33 AM
#37
Ayame1 said: Kagami said: Ayame1 said: I didn't read all the posts here but skimmed over them. I like this idea because it would help prevent fake accounts from persisting, but above people saying they don't want to loose their accounts even after five years. There is one simple solution to that: Accounts won't be deleted. None of your information will, however, your scores won't appear in an anime's score until you relogin to your account if you're gone for 4 years. I think it's better if the time period were a bit shorter. More like 4 years. Because 4 years is still a long time. I don't really grasp what you mean. So, you are against deleting the account option, bit feel our scores will vanish until were relogin? I don't see how that would work and deleting accounts in any shape or form would always be a bad idea due to the hacking possibility. After 4 years, your personal ratings would not take affect on anime ratings until you logged in again, thus making your account considered active. Only accounts active within 4 years should have their scores take affect on anime pages. It would make it so fake accounts that were created just to raise or lower the rating of certain anime would eventually have their scores hidden. Because these accounts are never going to be logged into again anyway. Does that make sense now? A system like this would start improving anime scores after 4 years (or whatever time period they chose). Wow. I made a few spelling errors in my last post. Anyway, back OT: We already have a job as users to link suspect accounts that do this sort of immature action so they can be deleted. I also disagree with your suggestion because just because a user fails to login again doesn't mean their ratings should eventually be taken away from the database. Also, let's say myanimelist exists in 100 years and even longer - That means members who can't login anymore would have their scores all negated and that'd make the scores in the database take a MASSIVE hit. Our scores should stay intact so future generations could use them as examples. |
Sep 6, 2016 3:48 AM
#38
Kagami said: Ayame1 said: Kagami said: Ayame1 said: I didn't read all the posts here but skimmed over them. I like this idea because it would help prevent fake accounts from persisting, but above people saying they don't want to loose their accounts even after five years. There is one simple solution to that: Accounts won't be deleted. None of your information will, however, your scores won't appear in an anime's score until you relogin to your account if you're gone for 4 years. I think it's better if the time period were a bit shorter. More like 4 years. Because 4 years is still a long time. I don't really grasp what you mean. So, you are against deleting the account option, bit feel our scores will vanish until were relogin? I don't see how that would work and deleting accounts in any shape or form would always be a bad idea due to the hacking possibility. After 4 years, your personal ratings would not take affect on anime ratings until you logged in again, thus making your account considered active. Only accounts active within 4 years should have their scores take affect on anime pages. It would make it so fake accounts that were created just to raise or lower the rating of certain anime would eventually have their scores hidden. Because these accounts are never going to be logged into again anyway. Does that make sense now? A system like this would start improving anime scores after 4 years (or whatever time period they chose). Wow. I made a few spelling errors in my last post. Anyway, back OT: We already have a job as users to link suspect accounts that do this sort of immature action so they can be deleted. I also disagree with your suggestion because just because a user fails to login again doesn't mean their ratings should eventually be taken away from the database. Also, let's say myanimelist exists in 100 years and even longer - That means members who can't login anymore would have their scores all negated and that'd make the scores in the database take a MASSIVE hit. Our scores should stay intact so future generations could use them as examples. At the beginning I thought this system would remove the need of reporting fake accounts thus saving time because their scores would eventually be hidden. But it'd be a slow process (4 years) and could take it's toll over the overall number of real reviews. I was also considering the fake accounts that do not get deleted because they can not be proven fake. They disguise the account with mixed ratings to keep the account up then never log in ever again. Thinking about it some more, though, it's probably best not to implement something like this because the total number of real accounts will probably outnumber the fake tenfold anyway. ...But I do think empty accounts should be deleted automatically after some time. Not only are they a waste of space, but no one can use that username anymore and may lead to them having it changed manually by admins (wasting more time). |
AyaneSep 6, 2016 4:19 AM
Sep 6, 2016 4:14 AM
#39
@Ayame1 - Not important? Let me stop you there and convey why you are not analyzing the entire picture. Ratings (even 100 years old) are VERY important as they show what was popular at the time and guides new users who just begin as anime fans. Saying our ratings hold no importance makes little sense to me and seeing the ratings constantly shift and change due to people not coming on anymore would create havoc. I promise you the benefits of adding this DO NOT outweigh the eventual negatives and your idea actually breaks the very foundation of this site. Its not a bad idea, just wasn't very thought out. |
Sep 6, 2016 4:23 AM
#40
I was still editing my post ya know. Sorry, but I take a while to sort my thoughts and didn't expect you to read it so soon. (._.") I should use preview instead. Anyway, some of the things you said are the exact same things I was editing my post for after I read through my post 20 times. Then finally I saw your post. I see that we kind of agree. Kagami said: I personally don't see this as important. I don't see any perks this information would provide people 100 years in the future. This information may be interesting, but not important. But it doesn't matter what I think about this anyway, because the idea I suggested before is not actually a good idea.Ratings (even 100 years old) are VERY important as they show what was popular at the time Kagami said: I never said that, though.Saying our ratings hold no importance makes little sense to me Kagami said: Agreed, although that would also mean the website is becoming unpopular for some reason, but that would only make it even worse.seeing the ratings constantly shift and change due to people not coming on anymore would create havoc Kagami said: Agreed. I came to that conclusion as well while editing my post...I promise you the benefits of adding this DO NOT outweigh the eventual negatives and your idea actually breaks the very foundation of this site. |
AyaneSep 6, 2016 4:58 AM
Sep 6, 2016 5:51 AM
#41
MAL still feels that people will come back after 8 years. I don't think they will deleted the old accounts. |
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