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Jun 5, 2016 3:43 AM
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Business is business. If the producer see the majority of what the people want, they produce this item and the let the consumer buy their product. I am seeing some post people make is about "People need to fking watch anime that have boobs, more and more ecchi anime are coming...." but at the same time, they dont care what people watch including ecchi anime. O_o To the non ecchi watcher or ecchi haters, do you blame the people who watch tons and tons of ecchi anime's?
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Jun 5, 2016 3:46 AM
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anime studio not making more ecchi anime.. ecchi anime in fact declining!!!!

what happened is late night anime timeslot booming that make anime have more freedom to go all out in fanservice and many series take those oportunity...
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I just don't care either way. Contrary to popular belief ecchi is not killing the exposure of other genres (I mean, how could it? Ecchi isn't a real genre in the first place), and ecchi anime can be funny and entertaining sometimes. There's no point in watching anime purely for an "intellectual experience", in that case you might as well just read books because books are better for that anyway.
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Ecchi isn't a real genre in the first place

Then how would you describe a show like High School DxD?

OT, why should I blame them for enjoying something? It is not like Ecchi shows are talking emission time for other shows...
 
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Shinjisus said:
Lobinde said:
Ecchi isn't a real genre in the first place

Then how would you describe a show like High School DxD?

OT, why should I blame them for enjoying something? It is not like Ecchi shows are talking emission time for other shows...


By that I mean ecchi is a term used in the west and is not actually taken into consideration in the industry itself.

In japen shows such as High School DxD are grouped up with standard harem anime or treated the same as hentai iirc.

It also needs to be said that "ecchi" and "hentai" effectively have the same meaning in japen. Ecchi means "h" and is used as an abbreviation of "hentai"
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I don't hate ecchi at all, but is true that because pople who like ecchi want more, Japan do ecchi anime. It's something basic; people want something, so the studios give them what they want.
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Ecchi anime is the reason for all my problems, if it wasn't for ecchi anime I would have made better choices in my life.

@mamster-p back me up here.
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People watch action-oriented anime, so action-oriented anime are made. People watch romance anime, so romance anime are made. People watch ecchi-oriented anime, so ecchi-oriented anime are made.

I don't see the reason to specifically point out ecchi here.
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I don't mind tbh, if they want to watch then they can watch it. Some really good anime series like Kill la Kill have ecchi in it, but it doesn't necessarily have to revolve around it.
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+1 to what Kuma said
anime studio are certainly not making more ecchi anime
theres just like 3 or so this season

but yeah obv ecchi watchers are the reasons ecchi anime get made >__>
one of the bigger niches but not a big part of the industry as some people make it to be
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I also don't think that ecchi fans are all "brainless otaku scum" like some people make out. Yes, there are obviously going to be some who fit the sterotype, all stereotypes have some truth to them, but I still think ecchi fans are capable of appreciating shows in other genres, and although there is no real "intellectualism" involved in making a good ecchi anime, there is a skill involved. If you make an ecchi anime that feels outdated or "unsexy", it will get shat on by fans of the "genre".

Also, you have to keep in mind that sometimes the smartest people choose to unwind by watching/enjoying the dumbest kind of shit. I imagine there are some scientists and such out there who like High School DxD for example.
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I don't really care. It's not like all ecchi are bad.

Seriously, harems are more likely to be worse.
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Lobinde said:
I also don't think that ecchi fans are all "brainless otaku scum" like some people make out. Yes, there are obviously going to be some who fit the sterotype, all stereotypes have some truth to them, but I still think ecchi fans are capable of appreciating shows in other genres, and although there is no real "intellectualism" involved in making a good ecchi anime, there is a skill involved. If you make an ecchi anime that feels outdated or "unsexy", it will get shat on by fans of the "genre".

Also, you have to keep in mind that sometimes the smartest people choose to unwind by watching/enjoying the dumbest kind of shit. I imagine there are some scientists and such out there who like High School DxD for example.


True that, shouldn't judge people based on their interests even if it is something like ecchi...
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Well they are not the Culprit.
Action shows are made for action lovers
Eomance is made for Romance levers
etc. etc. etc.

The real Culprit though is the poor economy.
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Last time I checked, many American movies have "ecchi" as well. It's global.


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EfiChan said:
Last time I checked, many American movies have "ecchi" as well. It's global.


lol right?
Idk if it's that there are many people on here who just don't watch western movies or TV shows, but they tend to have more "ecchi" fanservice than the majority of anime series we watch.
Hell, most western films have fucking sex scenes I'm not complaining though.

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I think it's silly when people complain about ecchi ruining the anime industry, because it's been just as prominent in anime before the 90s as well. However, I also find it silly when ecchi fans think that the people complaining about it are going to be a factor when it comes to how much ecchi series will be made.

I don't think there is anything wrong with ecchi series, or even more of them coming out. The only thing I would like to see are more series that are studios brave enough to make more manga to anime adaptations, as well as making original content that feels more personal from the creator or director.
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Business is business. If the producer see the majority of what the people want, they produce this item and the let the consumer buy their product. I am seeing some post people make is about "People need to fking watch anime that have boobs, more and more ecchi anime are coming...." but at the same time, they dont care what people watch including ecchi anime. O_o To the non ecchi watcher or ecchi haters, do you blame the people who watch tons and tons of ecchi anime's?


are you trolling? you know you could say this about any genre?

yet another excuse to target ecchi anime....

foh.....

unfortunately im going to work so i can't flame -___-


oh and yea...... as has been stated

1. the studios are not "making more"

2. ecchi is not even a genre anyway, WE WESTERNERS decided what is ecchi and what is not
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Mamster-P said:
rebornnora said:
Business is business. If the producer see the majority of what the people want, they produce this item and the let the consumer buy their product. I am seeing some post people make is about "People need to fking watch anime that have boobs, more and more ecchi anime are coming...." but at the same time, they dont care what people watch including ecchi anime. O_o To the non ecchi watcher or ecchi haters, do you blame the people who watch tons and tons of ecchi anime's?


are you trolling? you know you could say this about any genre?

yet another excuse to target ecchi anime....

foh.....

unfortunately im going to work so i can't flame -___-


oh and yea

1. as has been stated, the studios are not "making more"

2. ecchi is not even a genre anyway, WE WESTERNERS decided what is ecchi and what is not

It's alright man, they're just ignorants who believe that a jiggling boob directly ruins 5 shows from the same season, don't let them keep you down.
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Well its pretty easy to understand that boobs sell. If the plot isnt exactly amazing u can always fill the gap with boobs.
Even if it would sell well without boobs, theres always space for improvement (lol believe it or not), and that improvement is done with...you guessed it ;3

I dont mind, it atleast makes a horrendous story somewhat enjoyable, its not just snoozefest...
Imagine Testament without the ecchi stuff lol....
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Mamster-P said:


are you trolling? you know you could say this about any genre?

yet another excuse to target ecchi anime....

foh.....

unfortunately im going to work so i can't flame -___-


oh and yea

1. as has been stated, the studios are not "making more"

2. ecchi is not even a genre anyway, WE WESTERNERS decided what is ecchi and what is not

It's alright man, they're just ignorants who believe that a jiggling boob directly ruins 5 shows from the same season, don't let them keep you down.


i will volunteer to start walking around naked no, not really if it means we'll stop being afraid of our own body parts


but we gotta do something about this demonization of embracing sexuality


all these fucking arguments that can be said about ANYTHING are always targeted at ecchi, its ridiculous

if you're "distracted" by ecchi that is a personal problem
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You don't blame the people who create demand for not creating the demand you want. You blame yourself for not bothering to do so yourself.
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but we gotta do something about this demonization of embracing sexuality

You know damn well that ecchi is, 99.9% of the time, used to distract the viewer from realizing that the series has absolutely nothing to say and is a complete waste of your goddamn time. Shows like Phantom World and High School of the Dead know that they're creatively-bankrupt pieces of filth, and so they jiggle some boobs around like jiggling keys in a toddler's face, and the brainless ecchi fans of the world keep staring and drooling like the troglodytes they are.

The only series I've ever seen use ecchi in an interesting way is Kill la Kill. It had its jiggling-keys moments, but it used the subject of nudity to explore themes of human sexuality, freedom, and oppression in a way that wasn't just male-gaze-pandering bullshit.

As for all the other anime that rely on ecchi, worthless. All entirely worthless. If I want porn, I'll just go fucking watch some porn. The internet literally has all the porn ever. Why the fuck should I bother with this show-nothing Phantom World garbage when I have ALL THE PORN EVER at my fingertips?!

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^What the hell is that horror? Is that two bags of silicon or what? Is that a new type of creepy pokemon hiding behind a blanket?


Rather than "watchers", what's important here is "buyers".

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but we gotta do something about this demonization of embracing sexuality

You know damn well that ecchi is, 99.9% of the time, used to distract the viewer from realizing that the series has absolutely nothing to say and is a complete waste of your goddamn time. [/quote]
This. So much YES to this. Wouldn't go as far as 99,9% for a number but most of the case it's just this. They're using stuff like that to prevent most viewers to realize how bad is everything else. Why users are busy with looking at flashing boobs and pantsies and erotic poses and whatever they're not thinking too hard about how much the plot doesn't make sense~.
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You know damn well that ecchi is, 99.9% of the time, used to distract the viewer from realizing that the series has absolutely nothing to say and is a complete waste of your goddamn time. Shows like Phantom World and High School of the Dead know that they're creatively-bankrupt pieces of filth, and so they jiggle some boobs around like jiggling keys in a toddler's face, and the brainless ecchi fans of the world keep staring and drooling like the troglodytes they are.

The only series I've ever seen use ecchi in an interesting way is Kill la Kill. It had its jiggling-keys moments, but it used the subject of nudity to explore themes of human sexuality, freedom, and oppression in a way that wasn't just male-gaze-pandering bullshit.

As for all the other anime that rely on ecchi, worthless. All entirely worthless. If I want porn, I'll just go fucking watch some porn. The internet literally has all the porn ever. Why the fuck should I bother with this show-nothing Phantom World garbage when I have ALL THE PORN EVER at my fingertips?!


+1 for mentioning Kill La Kill and understanding its themes, it's one of my favorite shows.
but the rest of what you said is not going to 100 real quick.

I've never seen phantom world so I won't address it in anything I say, but the "pointless boob jiggle" really isn't affecting anime fans who aren't into that genre. Besides, we can't act as if ecchi anime is the only thing in entertainment that will have "pointless boob jiggle" throughout the entire series (I'm talking about other shows and films that aren't anime of course). Honestly, I see more pointless boob jiggling in action films (where it's not even needed) than I do in ecchi anime.

Ecchi anime may feel worthless to many of viewers, but there are still many who love it and they don't feel how you feel about it.

Also, I know some people can get off from watching ecchi, but I don't think people watch it in order to replace porn lol.

I may not be the biggest ecchi fan, but that would have more to do with the story line and behavior of the characters that either bore me or irritate me. When it comes to the things that piss me off and make me cringe, when it comes to anime, the whole "boob jiggle" trope is the last thing that makes a series bad though.
Also, so what if they're bad lol I ain't watching them.

I also feel people go on a hate train when it comes to ecch only, but the minute I say that i think Love Live is shit it's "off with that bitches head" and "stop saying love live sucks". lol
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^What the hell is that horror? Is that two bags of silicon or what? Is that a new type of creepy pokemon hiding behind a blanket?

It'st he greatest boobs physics of all time from Highschool of the dead !
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Doesn't it?

Damn I thought they were airbags or something at first
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No, I don't blame the ecchi watchers for the anime studios making more ecchi. I thank them.
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Zefyris said:
^What the hell is that horror? Is that two bags of silicon or what? Is that a new type of creepy pokemon hiding behind a blanket?

It'st he greatest boobs physics of all time from Highschool of the dead !

I knew about the matrix-like boobs avoiding bullets scene but never saw that one. Damn that's ugly. I'd say that kind of stuff is actually mroe frightening than all the zombies they can add to the show. That cannot be human, what is she, some alien disguised in human or something?
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What's wrong with ecchi? If anything there should be MORE!
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I also feel people go on a hate train when it comes to ecch onlyi, but the minute I say that i think Love Live is shit it's "off with that bitches head" and "stop saying love live sucks". lol

I haven't ever watched Love Live, because it looks like a half-hearted and painfully-obvious K-On! rip-off. K-On! itself was perfectly fine, but I consider it a fluke rather than calculated goodness--anything that rips it off is just going to crash and burn.

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Zefyris said:
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It'st he greatest boobs physics of all time from Highschool of the dead !

I knew about the matrix-like boobs avoiding bullets scene but never saw that one. Damn that's ugly. I'd say that kind of stuff is actually mroe frightening than all the zombies they can add to the show. That cannot be human, what is she, some alien disguised in human or something?
Here, if you want to see the entire thing.
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Zelkiiro said:
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I also feel people go on a hate train when it comes to ecch onlyi, but the minute I say that i think Love Live is shit it's "off with that bitches head" and "stop saying love live sucks". lol

I haven't ever watched Love Live, because it looks like a half-hearted and painfully-obvious K-On! rip-off. K-On! itself was perfectly fine, but I consider it a fluke rather than calculated goodness--anything that rips it off is just going to crash and burn.


I haven't seen Love Live either, but it's an idol anime, whereas K-On is just focused on the fictional characters in the show's 5-member music club.

And K-On is hardly that original either, I think it's possibly the weakest out of the all of the popular slice of life anime because of how formulaic it is.

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Here, if you want to see the entire thing.
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Jeeez, the comments on that video "bla bla this is a disgrace to animation bla bla"
Are these people incapable of having fun?
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I knew about the matrix-like boobs avoiding bullets scene but never saw that one. Damn that's ugly. I'd say that kind of stuff is actually mroe frightening than all the zombies they can add to the show. That cannot be human, what is she, some alien disguised in human or something?
Here, if you want to see the entire thing.
After that, your life is complete.

Oh that's actually part of the same infamous scene I see! Worst boobs physics ever created in an anime? Kuddos to the anime studio for managing to make zombies looks friendly compared to the frightening boobs physic.
That's some impressive feat of strength here xD
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I don't see the problem here. If you don't like ecchi, then don't watch it. No need to blame anyone for loving ecchi. Besides, ecchi animes are decreasing. So, you have no right to complain.
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I don't see the problem here. If you don't like ecchi, then don't watch it. No need to blame anyone for loving ecchi. Besides, ecchi animes are decreasing. So, you have no right to complain.

Is it actually decreasing? Does someone have stats confirming this?
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Zefyris said:
Cherilyn said:
I don't see the problem here. If you don't like ecchi, then don't watch it. No need to blame anyone for loving ecchi. Besides, ecchi animes are decreasing. So, you have no right to complain.

Is it actually decreasing? Does someone have stats confirming this?



pulls down chart showing the decrease of ecchi-ecchi/harem over the last 5yrs
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Zefyris said:
Cherilyn said:
I don't see the problem here. If you don't like ecchi, then don't watch it. No need to blame anyone for loving ecchi. Besides, ecchi animes are decreasing. So, you have no right to complain.

Is it actually decreasing? Does someone have stats confirming this?
I could be wrong, but there doesn't seem to be much ecchi anime this season or the next one.
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Zefyris said:
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Here, if you want to see the entire thing.
After that, your life is complete.

Oh that's actually part of the same infamous scene I see! Worst boobs physics ever created in an anime? Kuddos to the anime studio for managing to make zombies looks friendly compared to the frightening boobs physic.
That's some impressive feat of strength here xD

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Zefyris said:

This. So much YES to this. Wouldn't go as far as 99,9% for a number but most of the case it's just this. They're using stuff like that to prevent most viewers to realize how bad is everything else. Why users are busy with looking at flashing boobs and pantsies and erotic poses and whatever they're not thinking too hard about how much the plot doesn't make sense~.

Prison School, Kill La Kill, No Game No Life, High School DxD, Chobits, Shokugeki no Souma, Kodomo No Jikan, Air Gear... They all have something to say outside of ecchi. Not to mention that the Fate series is based on a porn game.

And say that if you remove fan service, you'll see that the rest is bad, is like saying "if you remove humor from a comedy anime, you'll see how everything else is bad and the plot doesn't make sense". Or "if you remove fighting scenes from action anime, you'll realize how bad they are".
Ecchi revolves around fan service, so of course if you remove one of its main components it won't make sense. You might not appreciate fan service in anime and think it's useless, well some like it. Just like some hate humor or romance in anime, that doesn't make it useless.

As for blaming the ecchi watchers, it's stupid. Yes, if a lot of people buy ecchi related merchandising, it will push to industry to produce more of them. But it's not removing anything.
If tons of "intellectual anime" fans supported their anime the same way moe and ecchi fans do, then there would be more "intellectual anime". The problem is not that ecchi fans support their side of the industry by buying products, it's that others fans don't. If otakus spent less money on ecchi shows, there would be less of them but there would NOT be more of other shows.

If anything, ecchi fans help the industry as a whole, because they inject more money than other fans. Anime is a business, and if you're not financially supporting it, you're useless. Nobody in the industry cares about how you rated a show 10/10 and how it has million of views on streaming websites if it doesn't make revenues.
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Zelkiiro said:
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I also feel people go on a hate train when it comes to ecch onlyi, but the minute I say that i think Love Live is shit it's "off with that bitches head" and "stop saying love live sucks". lol

I haven't ever watched Love Live, because it looks like a half-hearted and painfully-obvious K-On! rip-off. K-On! itself was perfectly fine, but I consider it a fluke rather than calculated goodness--anything that rips it off is just going to crash and burn.


I never saw K-On!, but love live is about girls wanting to become animu's top girl group for their high school. Plus, they don't play instruments like the girls in K-On! so I don't think it was meant to be similar, if they are similar it's probably cause they use the similar anime archetypes you see all the time.

IMO love live was a crash in burn, but I wasn't really comparing it to anything else...it was just crash and burn by itself lol.

Honestly though, I can't hate on other people who love that shit, but personally I have seen way more ecchi shows that I enjoyed more than love live.
I don't even think a love live season 15 would be a problem if it was made, I just won't watch it haha.
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KonaKoffee said:
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Last time I checked, many American movies have "ecchi" as well. It's global.


lol right?
Idk if it's that there are many people on here who just don't watch western movies or TV shows, but they tend to have more "ecchi" fanservice than the majority of anime series we watch.
Hell, most western films have fucking sex scenes I'm not complaining though.

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I think it's silly when people complain about ecchi ruining the anime industry, because it's been just as prominent in anime before the 90s as well. However, I also find it silly when ecchi fans think that the people complaining about it are going to be a factor when it comes to how much ecchi series will be made.

I don't think there is anything wrong with ecchi series, or even more of them coming out. The only thing I would like to see are more series that are studios brave enough to make more manga to anime adaptations, as well as making original content that feels more personal from the creator or director.


this is true but i can't think of many western shows that focus on it in the way japanese shows we label as ecchi do (or that handle sex the way the harem genre does, etc). ecchi is pretty transparently adolescent which is not always the case w/ western depictions
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Zefyris said:

This. So much YES to this. Wouldn't go as far as 99,9% for a number but most of the case it's just this. They're using stuff like that to prevent most viewers to realize how bad is everything else. Why users are busy with looking at flashing boobs and pantsies and erotic poses and whatever they're not thinking too hard about how much the plot doesn't make sense~.

Prison School, Kill La Kill, No Game No Life, High School DxD, Chobits, Shokugeki no Souma, Kodomo No Jikan, Air Gear... They all have something to say outside of ecchi. Not to mention that the Fate series is based on a porn game.

And say that if you remove fan service, you'll see that the rest is bad, is like saying "if you remove humor from a comedy anime, you'll see how everything else is bad and the plot doesn't make sense". Or "if you remove fighting scenes from action anime, you'll realize how bad they are".
Ecchi revolves around fan service, so of course if you remove one of its main components it won't make sense. You might not appreciate fan service in anime and think it's useless, well some like it. Just like some hate humor or romance in anime, that doesn't make it useless.

As for blaming the ecchi watchers, it's stupid. Yes, if a lot of people buy ecchi related merchandising, it will push to industry to produce more of them. But it's not removing anything.
If tons of "intellectual anime" fans supported their anime the same way moe and ecchi fans do, then there would be more "intellectual anime". The problem is not that ecchi fans support their side of the industry by buying products, it's that others fans don't. If otakus spent less money on ecchi shows, there would be less of them but there would NOT be more of other shows.

If anything, ecchi fans help the industry as a whole, because they inject more money than other fans. Anime is a business, and if you're not financially supporting it, you're useless. Nobody in the industry cares about how you rated a show 10/10 and how it has million of views on streaming websites if it doesn't make revenues.


Are you a long-distance archer? Because you just hit the mark precisely. I rarely agree with a post as strongly as I agree with this.

If you want there to be more "muh intellectual anime", SUPPORT THE INDUSTRY AND THE CREATORS OF "INTELLECTUAL ANIME". IT'S THAT SIMPLE. It's a free market so financial investment is far more effective than crying about muh moeblobs and ecchi ruining annie mays :( on a western forum no one in the industry is going to check or care about.
Jun 5, 2016 8:13 AM

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I blame ecchi for the downfall of anime, the holocaust, 9/11, the dumbing down of today's society and the reason I can't get a date.
Curse you ecchi...curse you to hell.

Zelkiiro said:
Mamster-P said:
but we gotta do something about this demonization of embracing sexuality

You know damn well that ecchi is, 99.9% of the time, used to distract the viewer from realizing that the series has absolutely nothing to say and is a complete waste of your goddamn time. Shows like Phantom World and High School of the Dead know that they're creatively-bankrupt pieces of filth, and so they jiggle some boobs around like jiggling keys in a toddler's face, and the brainless ecchi fans of the world keep staring and drooling like the troglodytes they are.

The only series I've ever seen use ecchi in an interesting way is Kill la Kill. It had its jiggling-keys moments, but it used the subject of nudity to explore themes of human sexuality, freedom, and oppression in a way that wasn't just male-gaze-pandering bullshit.

As for all the other anime that rely on ecchi, worthless. All entirely worthless. If I want porn, I'll just go fucking watch some porn. The internet literally has all the porn ever. Why the fuck should I bother with this show-nothing Phantom World garbage when I have ALL THE PORN EVER at my fingertips?!

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Jun 5, 2016 8:16 AM

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Bobby2Hands said:
I blame ecchi for the downfall of anime, the holocaust, 9/11, the dumbing down of today's society and the reason I can't get a date.
Curse you ecchi...curse you to hell.


Wanna know why ISIS exist? Because they were inspired to by High School DxD. It's a fact!
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Cherilyn said:
Zefyris said:

Is it actually decreasing? Does someone have stats confirming this?
I could be wrong, but there doesn't seem to be much ecchi anime this season or the next one.

This has always varied from season to season. Also, not every season/year has as much anime made, either.

So would need stats in % per year over the last 15 years for example to see if there is a tendency or not.

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Zefyris said:

This. So much YES to this. Wouldn't go as far as 99,9% for a number but most of the case it's just this. They're using stuff like that to prevent most viewers to realize how bad is everything else. Why users are busy with looking at flashing boobs and pantsies and erotic poses and whatever they're not thinking too hard about how much the plot doesn't make sense~.

Prison School, Kill La Kill, No Game No Life, High School DxD, Chobits, Shokugeki no Souma, Kodomo No Jikan, Air Gear... They all have something to say outside of ecchi. Not to mention that the Fate series is based on a porn game.

Aaaaand.... Which part of listing a few titles nullify the "in most case"?
Also some of the listed titles don't really have a lot to tell at all, ecchi or not.
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People should just chill with regards to ecchi...lol

There's always the alternative to be picky about stuff. Better be close minded than be bitter about things.
Jun 5, 2016 8:34 AM

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CapitalistGod said:
People should just chill with regards to ecchi...lol

There's always the alternative to be picky about stuff. Better be close minded than be bitter about things.


People staying chill on the internet about things is something that will never happen lol
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When you got a anime were you think it would be epic but find out the show is mostly filled with Gainaxing breasts, several girls in bed with one guy, constant panty shots
You just suddenly lost your motivation to watch that show at all (Highschool of the dead).
Or when you are watching a anime adaption of your favourite manga and find out after watching a couple of episode that it became shit instantly (RizelMine)
The manga of RizelMine was really cute >.< but the anime some how became a legit harem series with characters that don't exist in the manga or was not in love with the MC began to love to love the MC (going into his bed, trying to strip him, trying seduce him, trying to do whatever!)

So yeah when the ecchi is constantly in your face (Omamori Himari) then we got issues
Dont get me wrong I do like some harems like Musaigen no Phantom World or Date A Live
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IT is always funny to read ECCHI haters’ comments :D


I know right? It's hilarious to see them being scared and enraged about fictional, animated boobs. You have to wonder if they react the same in real life. Or if they have ever seen boobs in real life, to begin with.

On topic, as a proud ecchi/fanservice lover, I couldn't care less if the pretentious elitists here on MAL think that my taste in anime is the reason why they can't enjoy anything.
The only True Ending is the Harem Ending.
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Every genre in every medium is defined by the viewers. If you want more ecchi, watch more ecchi and support more ecchi. If you don't than don't. Anime is a business and will continue to be so until the end of time. Vote with your wallet. If you want more of something than support that and if you want less than don't support it.

Studios will make ecchi as long as it keeps making them money. Guess who gives them this money... the viewers. So yes I do 'blame' them for that but it's in the same way I 'blame' people for supporting moe (I love moe btw). The buyers dictate the market it's just the way it is.
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