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Dec 23, 2007 10:28 AM

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Kanon was able to finish after a late start. Makoto finished in ep10 and Mai finished in ep15, right? Although Nayuki didn't get a whole lot, I think.

I have faith in KyoAni, though; they'll do it right.

Back to Kotomi's scream, I'm not sure how far away she was from the crowd. It sure took Tomoya and co. an extra five or so seconds before they rushed over to Kotomi. And there wasn't any background noise of surprised bystanders. It felt a little too quiet, but I understand if they wanted to put all the focus on Kotomi.


i've heard kyoani are planning to air 52 eps of clannad, something around 52, i know its not official, but it would be awesome, clannad needs the 52 eps...
the fuko arc include 10 eps, they cant rush the other arcs in the last 12 eps.. it would destroy the show...


Yeah but the fuko arc being 10 eps was a huge mistake. 10 eps repeating something THEY JUST DID IN KANON was stupid. Im glad its over. Plus im more of a fan of FMP and Haruhi then I am Key so the sooner Kyo Ani can get working on those the better imo.

But yeah, this ep was pretty good, i thought it was fitting she just grabbed the star and took off. Although like someone said earlier "oh yeah we were friends when we were kids" is getting old as well I still think i perfer this arc to fuko's by alot heh.
Dec 23, 2007 10:33 AM
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Just here to say "thanks for all the Kanon spoilers"!
Great episode, too bad we have to wait a long time for the next one...
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Well, most of us have watched Kanon 2006 already, guess many can't help it.

But anyway, I doubt Clannad will be 52 episodes. And also, Fuko's arc was not 10 episodes long. The first episodes introduced all the characters, at best it was 8 episodes long.

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Dec 23, 2007 12:01 PM

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I thought Clannad was already stated to be 2 cour (24-26 episodes)? Going to be hard to keep the viewers interested in a VN adaptation lasting for 52 episodes, just not enough interesting material to work with.
Dec 23, 2007 1:44 PM
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lol 52 eps? WTH?
Who suggested that?

Fuko arc wasn't ten episodes btw. The first few episodes were introductory -.-"
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While Fuko is my least favorite of the main characters, her appearence was hilarious. The group date was just awesome. The girls in casual clothes <3333333333

Even though I should've saw it coming, i did not expect them to pull the "we knew each other from before" connection between Kotomi and Tomoya. I don't find these situations to be overused or old since I rather like them, so this is getting me very excited about the next episode.

My thoughts exactly.

Tomoya is the best. He's really become one of my favorite characters xD
Dec 23, 2007 2:54 PM
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Well, most of us have watched Kanon 2006 already, guess many can't help it.

But anyway, I doubt Clannad will be 52 episodes. And also, Fuko's arc was not 10 episodes long. The first episodes introduced all the characters, at best it was 8 episodes long.
Actually, it started at the end of the 4th episode and ended in the 9th, so it was five episodes, or six if you stretch it. It looked longer because it was all about Fuko and all the other characters got a bit neglected. I like the way they are handling it now, having the other main characters become more involved as a whole instead of having them pop out once the other's arc is done. I'm a little bit irked about the sad amount of screentime Tomoyo has had though.

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I guess the humor in clannad is better than in Kanon. Everything else is just the same lol.
Dec 23, 2007 8:35 PM

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Kotomi's arc is hardly as touching as Fuuko's, but it's decent. Quite a few dull parts, Fuuko's appearance was certainly the highlight of the episode for me. As I expected from the start of her story, I'd like it to end asap so we can see Kyou, Nagisa, and [hardlyanyairtime] Tomoyo.





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Dec 23, 2007 8:40 PM
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We are being introduced to Kyou's arc in Kotomi's. I just wanted to point that out =P

I reckon Tomoyo will have the shorter end of the stick since she later appears in another game with Tomoyo.
Dec 23, 2007 9:05 PM

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i wish all the girl's arc had the same number of episodes

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Why did Fuko appeared in this episode? Oo
I think that Ichinose and Okazaki are sibilings... maybe...
Dec 24, 2007 3:21 AM
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Where did you get that from?
Dec 24, 2007 11:33 AM
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Where did you get that from?
From the whole "we know each other" thing maybe. It could be that Tomoya's parents knew the Ichinose's (I always found it curious that the times we have seen Tomoya's dad, the TV was always tuned to some kind of Scientific news and the like...a hint at his previous work maybe?). I want a half-decent explanation as to why Tomoya didn't seem to recognize her at all though.

Dec 24, 2007 12:04 PM
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lol Well I won't spoil anything for you =)
Dec 25, 2007 10:47 AM

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I feel like I'll be going against popular demand here, but Kyou is starting to annoy me. She keeps pushing people to do what she wants and keeps insisting on the "going out" thing. It's beyond the "I want to help" thing to me, she's starting to become irritating. This is all my opinion though.

About the episode, that was really unexpected. When the man explained about the 'other world' concept, I instantly thought of the girl and her friend she made of scrap. And other little spoilers I've heard about Clannad that I didn't really want to hear. All in all, it was very interesting and her story seems connect more with the general story than separatedly her arc. It's just a feeling I have.

Also, Fuko? Be gone already...
Dec 25, 2007 1:26 PM
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Aw, she's Fuko, let her stick around. And I think TOmoya is the one sticking into other people's business. Kyou is just very outgoing, plus Tomoya was the one who kept pushing people into her hands.

Dec 25, 2007 1:35 PM

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Hm, point taken about Tomoya. I guess I'm biased cause I like him very much XD But he does keep pushing people towards her. Who wouldn't want to meet Kotomi, though?
Dec 26, 2007 10:21 AM

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Because Clannad isn't Air...high chance we will see the real Fuko walk amongst the living once again...that zombie version with the party hat is freaky I tell you!!!

Kyou has done nothing wrong, she just wants her imouto to be happy is all...well at the expense of her own feelings of course...trouble is already brewing =P

Can't really blame Tomoya too...It is the role of every male bishojo lead to butt into every hot girl's business...no fat chicks!!! xD

Really though...all the bishojo I've seen always has hot chicks...great marketing strategy btw! xD
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Can't really blame Tomoya too...It is the role of every male bishojo lead to butt into every hot girl's business...no fat chicks!!! xD

Really though...all the bishojo I've seen always has hot chicks...


That's because shoujo = girl; shounen = boy. You're looking for 'bishounen' (or bishie for short).

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Dec 26, 2007 1:43 PM
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And I think Tomoya is the one sticking into other people's business. Kyou is just very outgoing, plus Tomoya was the one who kept pushing people into her hands.

If Tomoya didn't do that then we wouldn't have Clannad.
Dec 26, 2007 3:23 PM

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Can't really blame Tomoya too...It is the role of every male bishojo lead to butt into every hot girl's business...no fat chicks!!! xD

Really though...all the bishojo I've seen always has hot chicks...


That's because shoujo = girl; shounen = boy. You're looking for 'bishounen' (or bishie for short).


Eh I thought that the 'bi' part of shojo/shonen indicated a harem/reverse harem series? Even shonen has hot chicks....well lets just say all anime in general? xD

Not a good marketing strategy to have your lead be a butt ugly person ne? xD
Dec 26, 2007 7:00 PM

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good episode.

i dont think its bad that kotomi and tomoya knew each other... i mean, it might be in another anime, but if you think about it, you are just seeing it as your point of view. many animes can have really equal ways of settings, but they all have different storylines. i am not blaming anyone, but the fact that a lot of people complain about kotomi being a childhood friend throughout the whole thread is a little annoying. yes, other animes have it. but all the stories are always different, so i guess we have to see the whole story before complaining that we got an anime really related to kanon... /rant

fuko was cute this episode. i laughed when she got the star instead of what she was going to get.

kyou is cute, so i would never say she was getting annoying. kyou really was cute this episode when she hugged Ryou when she thought she was in the accident.

the kotomi breakdown was awesomely done. and when the old guy mentioned the other world, i could not help but think about the mysterious girl and her doll.

this episode was not as comical as other episodes, but it had a really good drama factor. really looking forward for the next episode, which is not gonna air in such a long time... D=
Dec 26, 2007 7:09 PM

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I LOVED FUKO'S APPEARANCE!!!
check what club I'm the creator of... Ibuki Fuko Fanclub...

But all in all I thought it was a really good episode. The Kotomi freak out was really scary. This episode made me care for her more than any other episode for sure...
Dec 26, 2007 9:37 PM
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I'm not exactly pissed at the " Tomoya - Kotomi childhood friends" plot twist. But considering there wasn't even much of a clue (unless you think Kotomi only reacting to Tomoya during the first few episodes a hint), I want to see a good explanation first before I can accept it without hesitation.

Dec 27, 2007 4:39 AM

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Can't really blame Tomoya too...It is the role of every male bishojo lead to butt into every hot girl's business...no fat chicks!!! xD

Really though...all the bishojo I've seen always has hot chicks...


That's because shoujo = girl; shounen = boy. You're looking for 'bishounen' (or bishie for short).


Eh I thought that the 'bi' part of shojo/shonen indicated a harem/reverse harem series? Even shonen has hot chicks....well lets just say all anime in general? xD

Not a good marketing strategy to have your lead be a butt ugly person ne? xD

Actually "bishounen" means pretty boy and "bishoujo" means pretty girl.
Dec 27, 2007 5:58 AM

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i didn't get why fuko reappereaed, otherwise i thought it was really good
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Dec 27, 2007 7:00 AM

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:< i found the reappearance of fuko to be the best part lol, we're getting some nice background on kotomi too. looking to be an interesting arc so far ^_^
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AngelLily said:
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Can't really blame Tomoya too...It is the role of every male bishojo lead to butt into every hot girl's business...no fat chicks!!! xD

Really though...all the bishojo I've seen always has hot chicks...


That's because shoujo = girl; shounen = boy. You're looking for 'bishounen' (or bishie for short).


Eh I thought that the 'bi' part of shojo/shonen indicated a harem/reverse harem series? Even shonen has hot chicks....well lets just say all anime in general? xD

Not a good marketing strategy to have your lead be a butt ugly person ne? xD

Actually "bishounen" means pretty boy and "bishoujo" means pretty girl.


Not in anime =P
Dec 27, 2007 11:57 AM

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What you're looking for is here:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bish%C5%8Djo
Dec 27, 2007 3:08 PM

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What was the topic of discussion again? xD
Dec 28, 2007 3:10 AM

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Ok, the Fuko out of nowhere scene was a WTF moment xD

Even better that she pretty much used up his money to get herself a starfish plushie. hahahah, then disappeared again.

-some- may think it's "tacky" but I really like the random Fuko outburst out of nowhere. I hope for a couple more before her plot is revisited later in the series...

And yeah, drama near the end O_O

What the hell is up with Kanon guy's having horrible memories? Yuuichi was bad for that too >_>;;

Just putting this out now, Tomoyo is also a childhood friend! I can't remember the exact time the hints were thrown out, but it was near when they just introduced her, and she mentioned "do I know you?" or something along those lines.

But back to Kotomi, I saw the episode preview... Tomoya, amateur gardener? lol. I'm guessing he's going to clean up Kotomi's yard to make it look like how it did 'when they were kids'.

Anyway this post is edging into being tl;dr worthy, and it's 5 am so I'll stop here. But it really sucks that next episode doesn't come out till January 10th :(

Maybe I'll be done Air by then...? :)
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Watch Air. Now. Of all Key adaptations, that is, in my opinion, the best.
Dec 28, 2007 5:19 PM
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clannad is better :P
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Considering Air is pretty much the anime that put Kyoto Animation in the market, its pretty good in its own right. The problem with it was that they tried to fit too much material in only 13 episodes, as opposed to Kanon and Clannad with 24-26 episodes.

Without the overwhelming success of Air, the studio that is Kyoto Animation wouldn't be as successful as it is today.

Considering that Air is only 13 episodes, I do agree that it is the best adaptation so far. Clannad hasn't finished its run so we aren't sure whether it can surpass the greatness that is Air. Now this is coming from a huge fan of Kanon, so I don't think my opinion is biased at all.
Dec 29, 2007 5:09 PM

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Yep Clannad is way better imo.

Anyways...
The ep was pretty good, I was really suprised when fuko appeard...
Dec 31, 2007 4:54 AM

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This episode was great, should be good things on the horizon for the series. Just too bad Fuko showed up, most annoying voice ever. I actually almost stopped watching the show because of her. I know she was essential to the development of the other characters but I just couldn't handle listening to her talk.
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But you still watch SZS with Fuura Kafuka in it, who has the same voice actress...

Personally, I loved the Fuuko appearance. She's soo cute =^.^=

The episode was over all one of the better ones, because it kept me watching. But you're all right the "childhood friend" thing gets really old...
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when is episode 13 coming out??!?!
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Next week...

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Next week...

Which means we won't get it for at least two weeks more, I'd believe.

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No, I thought episode 13 was the only delay we were getting?
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No, I thought episode 13 was the only delay we were getting?
Well, I'm expecting they will take some time to do a quality sub. Of course, they can do it next week if they rush it out. And sure, the RAW will be up next week, for anyone who watches it. Guess I didn't clarify things.

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Let me clarify this even further...

A sub of Clannad episode 13 will probably appear around January 11-12, Clannad is subbed hellish fast by Wafflehouse.

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Let me clarify this even further...

A sub of Clannad episode 13 will probably appear around January 11-12, Clannad is subbed hellish fast by Wafflehouse.

Ah, I'm an Static-Subs/Eclipse watcher, so I didn't know that. Forgive me for that assumption. I need to stop assuming so much.

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Let me clarify this even further...

A sub of Clannad episode 13 will probably appear around January 11-12, Clannad is subbed hellish fast by Wafflehouse.

Ah, I'm an Static-Subs/Eclipse watcher, so I didn't know that. Forgive me for that assumption. I need to stop assuming so much.


There's not much of a gap between those subbers, I've seen SS-Eclipse's version get released before TWH. I prefer SS-Eclipse as well.

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With the load SS-Eclipse has right now, they won't be able to compete with waffle/sprocket in terms of release speed.

From the past trends I've seen thus far, you can usually get your Clannad fix Thursday night if you watch waffle/sprocket and around Friday morning/afternoon if you go with SS-Eclipse.

It used to be a a tight competition for an early release between the two subbing groups around episode 6. Past that, waffle/sprocket has released their sub give or take either half a day or two days ahead of SS-Eclipse.

Of course these useless stats are only for those who are desperate for their Clannad fix.

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Of course these useless stats are only for those who are desperate for their Clannad fix.


Yep, in the end I prefer quality over quantity. And I must say that SS-Eclipse does a better job on it. But that's material for those 'Which Clannad sub do you prefer' topics.

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Of course these useless stats are only for those who are desperate for their Clannad fix.


Yep, in the end I prefer quality over quantity. And I must say that SS-Eclipse does a better job on it. But that's material for those 'Which Clannad sub do you prefer' topics.


Agreed...although I don't get the quantity part =P

Although it seems like the fans are getting restless...
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Of course these useless stats are only for those who are desperate for their Clannad fix.


Yep, in the end I prefer quality over quantity. And I must say that SS-Eclipse does a better job on it. But that's material for those 'Which Clannad sub do you prefer' topics.


Agreed...although I don't get the quantity part =P

Although it seems like the fans are getting restless...
Well, Quality over Speed to be precise here. Eclipse has a workload to be sure, but they aren't working on their own and they seem to have distributed the members fairly enough so that they can handle all their projects in a fair amount of time (Even Hayate no Gotoku is up to date, and that one was an impressive feat). I've seen other groups take far longer with just one or two projects.

We'll get our Clannad fix soon enough. Well, I got to be thankfull on one thing though. I got the chance to catch up on a lot of Anime I missed during the year.

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