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Jun 25, 2009 3:56 AM

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Btw did anyone notice how short this was....=.=""
*annoyed*
I mean.... Only 33 pages...Dx
deadoptimist said:
Though I think shit-flinging should also have standards - no personal, no behind the scenes.
Jun 25, 2009 4:00 AM

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And Im a little bit angry at Kaname too! He should've killed Zero while he was little and stupid and not clever. What happens if Zero becomes the head of the hunter association? OMG! After becoming a ninja, i should invent time travelling machine and finish this zero boy at the first chapter!
Jun 25, 2009 4:10 AM

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Um, yes, but he needed him to kill Rido... :/
Though, he should have killed him after that...(ch. 47 or 48....)
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Jun 25, 2009 4:15 AM

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i can kill Rido with my super ninja powers!
Jun 25, 2009 4:30 AM

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Aureole said:
i can kill Rido with my super ninja powers!

Than It's fine^-^
You're our only hope now! xD
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Though I think shit-flinging should also have standards - no personal, no behind the scenes.
Jun 25, 2009 5:21 AM

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Good chapter. Found it amusing when Yagari was the one who was in charge of the academy all along and how Aidou's comment on Yuuki calling her moron for biting herself aha. Good explanation on what happened to the academy after the incident as well as knowing some the people who still remember the event though. Seems like Yuuki is still indecisive though <_<
Jun 25, 2009 5:29 AM

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Strangeshadow007 said:
Aidou's comment on Yuuki calling her moron

That was the only good part... >.>



Wee 200th post XDDD
deadoptimist said:
Though I think shit-flinging should also have standards - no personal, no behind the scenes.
Jun 25, 2009 7:27 AM

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Cenedess said:
Dx Not Zero...Kill Kaname instead!
She's a Kaname fan, It will never happen =Mwahaha xD
Though seriously, right now I'm not even annoyed at Zero... Its not his fault that Yuuki is a moron...

Aeterna said:

Actually, it's hard to say how strong Zero is. Think about it: not only is he from a prestigious line of vampire hunters, he also has the blood of three purebloods in him (Shizuka, Yuuki, and Kaname). Don't forget, also, he drank Ichiru's blood, too, thus he became "whole" as they should have been at birth. So, you know, we'll see.

Finally, someone who actually has something smart to say about this... (and I mean you, my last post was...well, unusual for me)
Anyway... Well, yes, but vampire hunters are still humans, he couldn't really be that strong just because of that... And about that blood... Well, Kaname has Shizuka's and Yuuki's blood too(and his own ofc) (and also Ruka's but Im not sure how did that help :/ )
Um, yes... Your right. I forgot about the whole "cursed twins" thing...o.o "Eating" Ichiru probably helped him get stronger but still, I doubt that he's stronger than Kaname... (since he is from the great Kuran family and everything+you never know how strong he actually is)


Let's not forget that since Rido awoke Kaname he would have his blood as well.

Jun 25, 2009 7:44 AM

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*nods* You're right, I completely forgot about that...o.o
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Jun 25, 2009 9:32 AM

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Ugh, I am in complete agreement with everyone that doesn't like where Yuuki's character is going. In the beginning, she was such a cute, blameless, character. She was childish and silly, yes, but she was someone I could admire for her innocence. Now, with the development of the new plot arc, she's turned into a whiny, indecisive little girl -_- *Shoots self in the head* I was originally a Yume fan and then a Zeki fan and now I just think she doesn't deserve either of the guys. Kaname and Zero deserve better than a girl who can't make up her mind =/ I mean, come on, a year? She's hurting both of them. I'm starting to agree with Sagakure on this >.> I think the three characters should just suck it up, admit their feelings, and jump in bed as a threesome xD; That, or Kaname and Zero can come together and be all, "Yuuki? Yuuki who? By the way, nice ass," then run off together to the Kuran mansion to have some fun play checkers. And then my heart can be satisfied xD;



*Ahem* As for the chapter release 8D
Even though we didn't really get anywhere as far as plot development goes, chapter 51 gave a lot of valuable insight into Yuuki's character. Who thought the girl could be so violent? I mean, she was practically about to kill little chibi-Yuuki and the whole time she had this impassive, "I don't care," look on her face ^^; It was also interesting that, when she snapped out of the day-dream trying to snatch chibi-Yuuki's hand, she grabbed Kaname's flower instead. Metaphor? I think that there were a lot of tiny subtle details strewn across this chapter that hint at Yuuki's feelings/opinions/thoughts on events.

I felt so bad for Zero when Yori mentioned Yuuki. Even though he didn't answer her question, just as he was turning around, a sad (almost tortured, indecisive, I think) look came over his face (which makes me think that there's some hope for Zeki fans on Zero's part). He looked so angry at first but then his face softened. It could be that it's a sensitive subject... but I like to think that he was fighting with himself, maybe even admitting deep down that he could never kill the girl he both loves and hates *So much angst* ^^; Yuuki seems to have such a platonic relationship with Kaname (on her half at least). Although Kaname might be real in his feelings/need/love for her, I think that Yuuki is attached to him more for the pure need of him than anything else. Even though she says that she wants to spend forever with him, the fact that she still clings to Zero after a year and she can't bring herself to come any closer to Kaname feeds my starving hope for a Zeki ending.

As for the mysterious "Wtf door"... who thinks "Kaname's" ancestral remains are behind it? I've heard a couple of different theories ranging anywhere from ancestral remains to Juri/Haruka's remains to Kaname's secret room of kinky bondage toys (stored for a rainy day) xD; What are everyone else's opinions? I'm leaning toward the ancestral remains... or at least something to that effect. It was eerie how quickly Kaname appeared in the hall (even though that can be explained by him following Yuuki's blood scent or his heightened senses as a pureblood). Wasn't he supposed to be away? What was he doing down there? Or maybe he just got back? Or maybe he was preparing his toys? xD; Just the fact that he was there in an instant makes me suspicious (especially with the way Hino-san drew him as a shadowed figure for most of his appearance). Anyway, I'm sure we'll see more of that door and learn more about it in later chapters 8D

Thoughts?
Jun 25, 2009 9:37 AM

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Oh god....Your post couln't even make me laugh. Its just disappointing.
Now first of all -
WHERE have I stated that Zero's stronger than Kaname? Plz point it out.
I am not the one who needs to notice more. GO Re-read the manga before making pointless distorted statements!
Do you want me to take this seriously? -
"almost everyone is stronger than Zero." Enough said.
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@Warfaze-
There is no way in hell that Zero is stronger than Kaname...
Please... I mean, we all know that you love him and everything but keep it real..
Jeez....

You're the one who needs to keep it real! Like I said I had put aside my liking towards Zero...when I stated anything. One name - "Rido".
Ok....you two have your opinions...distorted or not....I don't give a shit. But when you quote me and start spewing idiocy like -
"Hahahahahahah x'DDD
This made ma laugh...."
Or
"Please... I mean, we all know that you love him and everything but keep it real..
Jeez..."
it pisses me off!
Jun 25, 2009 9:57 AM

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I am completely and utterly disappointed with this manga right now. Yuuki has lost her charm, is indecisive and torn, and melancholic, and frankly - boring. If this "let's pine over Kaname" trend continues, I think I'll just drop the whole thing. Right now, the humans in this story are proving to be much more enduring and able to adapt to hard situations. They're actually picking themselves up and continuing on with their lives, just like Yuuki should do, instead of brooding. It's irritating, come on.

Zero and the Hunters are the only characters that make this manga readable for me. Even Yori now interests me more than what Yuuki has to say.
Jun 25, 2009 10:55 AM
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All the Kaname hate and Zero hate is making me sad. :P *loves them both* As much as I ship Zero x Yuuki, I'm getting sick of the pattern of I love Kaname-but I can't forget Zero-I want Kaname's blood-but I want Zero's too-but I want to spend eternity with Kaname. -___- Just stick with the dang vampire, will ya? -__- And I think that's sad that a Zeki fan is saying this. I suppose on the bright side this chapter made me add Zero x Yori to the list. :P

EDIT: Mashizou, I like your post and that's an interesting thought. <33 I'm sorry I can't add more to it. ^_^;;
Jun 25, 2009 11:23 AM

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Rofl, Yuuki. Basically you have no idea what the hell you want. Liked how she described her hunger for Zero though... "his beautiful pale neck"... pppppfffftttHAHAHAHAHAHA The fact that she bit herself was hilarious as well. XD

Ahem, anyway, I want to see that Hunters/Vampires meeting already. Some Zero-Kaname interactions would be nice. :)


Jun 25, 2009 11:38 AM

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@Mashizou: Can I kiss you? :p i totally agree with your post! I'll show it to our Matsuri Hino when i become a female ninja!
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poor Yuuki. i feel sorry for her. she can't forget about Zero and her ties (and feelings) to him when she was "human" which conflict with her ties and love for Kaname and her current situation. i can't wait to read the next chapter. XD

I also agree with Mashizou. but i believe that this turn of events for Yuuki is something that is needed for her character growth. she has to come to terms with the direction her life has taken and a year ago she had no choice but to go with Kaname because of the situation. i think part of it is also her strong attachment to Kaname and the vampire in her would naturally want to stay with him forever since they are alike, akin. we saw this when she was a little girl too. there is a love there but it's different from the love she developed when she was a teenager with Zero. a child's love verses a young woman's love is, what i believe, it will come down to.
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I personally will volunteer to take Yuukis place and have a nice happy threesome with Kaname and Zero. Ah hell....5some....I'll add Takuma and Aidou to it :P Might have to slap Aidou if he gets too fresh with Kaname though.

Being both a Kaname and Zero fan......it's really sad to see all the hate of either character.
^Just noticed Fayedove said the same thing.
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NoyaChan said:
Liked how she described her hunger for Zero though... "his beautiful pale neck"... )


I read it as her describing Kaname's neck.

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JadedLover said:
NoyaChan said:
Liked how she described her hunger for Zero though... "his beautiful pale neck"... )


I read it as her describing Kaname's neck.
Yup, that gorgeous, perfect, pale neck is definitely Kaname-sama's!
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I didn't really like this chapter. :( However it seems to be that finally the story will continue again. I'm writing it because I love VK, but the last 4 months... There were extras and it makes a monthly coming out manga slow and boring(?). T_T
I'm waiting for the reunion of Zero and Yuki, since Yuki loves him. :)
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Seconded...
I agree 99% with the post*-* (I never agree 100% unless its something like "OMFG, KANAME IS AMAZING" so don't worry xD)
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Jun 25, 2009 3:17 PM

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Am i the only one who doesnt care who Yuuki ends up with? Ive lost complete interest in the main characters, they all irritate me.The only characters i like anymore are the ones who get NO screentime at all, like Ichijo and Yori. I like Aidou though, and he still shows up ^^
Jun 25, 2009 4:28 PM

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HikariAkai said:
like Ichijo and Yori.

I don't really give a sh*t about Yori but really, what happened to Ichijo? We should get more info...:(
And what is up with Ruka? She's my fav female character and Its kinda annoying that we last saw her... What-5 chapters ago? Dx
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Jun 25, 2009 8:24 PM

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The FUCK is this shit. I hope Yuuki gets thrown off a cliff along with Zero's pussy ass.
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Unlike many, I really enjoyed this chapter. It's the final nail in the coffin for Yuuki as an interesting heroine. A friend of mine dropped vampire knight because she thought Yuuki was really boring. Turns out she was right. Personally, I don't care much for the triangle, it's just that I have a slight tendency to like Kaname over Zero. If I had my way, Kaname ends up with Ruka and Zero can have Yuuki for all I care. An ending with Kaname giving up his life to save Yuuki or him walking away with his vampire gang while saying good bye to Yuuki and Zero wouldn't be that bad either. I remember posting something about Yuuki not deserving either of the guys.

My prediction: Kaname walks off with his gang while Yuuki gets together with Zero or gets killed by him. Kaname is pissed and kills off Zero. Although I'm half thinking Zero and Kaname might combine (Rido-like) to save Yuuki. Kaname and Zero fans both win in this scenario
Jun 26, 2009 6:03 AM

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Blah, all I can say at this rate of Vampire Knight is that Yuuki... *makes strangling motions* Really, could she be any stupider?

And seriously, Aidou couldn't have been any more right when he asked if she was a moron.
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I don't really give a sh*t about Yori but really, what happened to Ichijo? We should get more info...:(
And what is up with Ruka? She's my fav female character and Its kinda annoying that we last saw her... What-5 chapters ago? Dx

Yea...we havent seen her in ages have we? It has always seemed like the side characters never got much screentime. It took me forever to learn who was who, particularly with the girls
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And seriously, Aidou couldn't have been any more right when he asked if she was a moron.

Thats what i like about Aidou, he'll say the things no one else will :)
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HikariAkai said:
Yea...we havent seen her in ages have we? It has always seemed like the side characters never got much screentime. It took me forever to learn who was who, particularly with the girls

You're right...>.>
And especially Ruka... Only Yori gets less screentime than her...o.o Oh, wait.... I'm not sure about that.... =.="
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Though I think shit-flinging should also have standards - no personal, no behind the scenes.
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You're right...>.>
And especially Ruka... Only Yori gets less screentime than her...o.o Oh, wait.... I'm not sure about that.... =.="

No yori gets more screentime than Ruka by far
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Damn... I want more Ruka....T_T

Is there any way to send Hino Matsuri fan mail that she will actually read? :/
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Aureole said:
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NoyaChan said:
Liked how she described her hunger for Zero though... "his beautiful pale neck"... )


I read it as her describing Kaname's neck.
Yup, that gorgeous, perfect, pale neck is definitely Kaname-sama's!


*nods* mhmm Yes it is.

If something happens and Yuuki bites into Zero b4 she does Kaname I'm going to be so pissed. And if she doesn't finally bite into Kaname in the next chapter I'll be really irritated. I'd rather see that then whats behind the door, since we can all guess what that is anyway.

BTW....did anyone notice that in the last chapter Aidou was still calling Yuuki Kuroso(Cross) Yuuki? Shouldn't he be calling her Yuuki-sama, or Kuran Yuuki now since she is a pureblood and a Kuran? Is it just because that's part of his character? Or habit? Like someone else said, I love his interactions with Yuuki.
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@JadedLover- I think It's just a habit... Idk... :/ o.o
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I think that Aidou doesnt treat Yuuki the same as he treats Kaname-sama. He is a lot more friendly and i think that his mocking Yuuki is something what friends would do. I really like the idea that Yuuki has a non-mature friend in that mansion :p
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Damn... I want more Ruka....T_T

Is there any way to send Hino Matsuri fan mail that she will actually read? :/

Well you could try. My best wishes!
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Why does everyone hate Yuki all of the sudden?
It's drama people, drama!
She is struggling with her vampire instincts, a deep love for kaname and feelings for Zoro at the same time! Surely psychological issues have to surface at some point, right?

It's nice to see some of the facts of the aftermath at the academy to be told of too.
Jun 28, 2009 3:40 AM

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I actually found Yuki less annoying than usual in this chapter but I wish something would happen soon rather than having this stalemate go on for loads of chapters, I want something interesting to happen soon!
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Chapter was meh. Nothing really productive in this chapter.
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Why does everyone hate Yuki all of the sudden?

I never liked Yuki :D
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I feel sorry for poor Yuuki. I'm starting to like Yuuki less now that she's become a vampire and is living in hiding. I hope we see more character development of her.
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Genix said:
Why does everyone hate Yuki all of the sudden?
It's drama people, drama!
She is struggling with her vampire instincts, a deep love for kaname and feelings for Zoro at the same time! Surely psychological issues have to surface at some point, right?

It's nice to see some of the facts of the aftermath at the academy to be told of too.


Hate is perhaps too strong a word to use. I shall use the word 'dislike'.
I dislike the fact that Yuuki's character development has been stagnant. Come on, a year has passed and she's still whining and moping about. It doesn't help that she's see-sawing over who she likes when she's already living and slurping Kaname's blood. It just made the whole thing hypocritical...especially when she delivers a slaptastic line like "I wanna be with you forever" after wards. What I really want to see is Yuuki going beyond her current 'IDIOTIC' state. Everyone else is progressing save for her.

Hopefully, next few chapters we'll see her get off her whiny butt and do something useful to the story for once.
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Hikari08 said:
Genix said:
Why does everyone hate Yuki all of the sudden?
It's drama people, drama!
She is struggling with her vampire instincts, a deep love for kaname and feelings for Zoro at the same time! Surely psychological issues have to surface at some point, right?

It's nice to see some of the facts of the aftermath at the academy to be told of too.


Hate is perhaps too strong a word to use. I shall use the word 'dislike'.
I dislike the fact that Yuuki's character development has been stagnant. Come on, a year has passed and she's still whining and moping about. It doesn't help that she's see-sawing over who she likes when she's already living and slurping Kaname's blood. It just made the whole thing hypocritical...especially when she delivers a slaptastic line like "I wanna be with you forever" after wards. What I really want to see is Yuuki going beyond her current 'IDIOTIC' state. Everyone else is progressing save for her.

Hopefully, next few chapters we'll see her get off her whiny butt and do something useful to the story for once.

There's this, plus the fact that I really miss Yuuki's old spunk. She used to be what I would consider a relatively normal teenage girl - she'd be smiling and cheerful when she was happy, determined when challenged, and sad when confronted with something that was, well, sad. What we've had for the last few chapters (spanning a whole year) was pretty much Yuuki expressing the same emotion. To me, she sort of resembles a female Kaname - someone whose facial expressions stay pretty much static. I think Hino-sensei is trying to give her a sense of vampiric beauty, but I think it's sort of cutting into Yuuki's personality.

I was never a huge fan of Yuuki, but I dislike where her character development is going.
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There's this, plus the fact that I really miss Yuuki's old spunk. She used to be what I would consider a relatively normal teenage girl - she'd be smiling and cheerful when she was happy, determined when challenged, and sad when confronted with something that was, well, sad. What we've had for the last few chapters (spanning a whole year) was pretty much Yuuki expressing the same emotion. To me, she sort of resembles a female Kaname - someone whose facial expressions stay pretty much static. I think Hino-sensei is trying to give her a sense of vampiric beauty, but I think it's sort of cutting into Yuuki's personality.

Good point, i actually really like Yuki at the beginning, she was kinda cute. She really does seem like a Kaname doppelganger now
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My guess ((Don't hate me)) is that kaname is keeping his past lover inside the room or something like that since you know Rido woke up the first king of the vampires and put him in Kaname body so the real Kaname basically dead. Anyway he plans to use Yuki body or something as such for a container, for his old lover and he couldn't do this before or make the preperations because of Rido had him under control.
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My guess ((Don't hate me)) is that kaname is keeping his past lover inside the room or something like that since you know Rido woke up the first king of the vampires and put him in Kaname body so the real Kaname basically dead. Anyway he plans to use Yuki body or something as such for a container, for his old lover and he couldn't do this before or make the preperations because of Rido had him under control.
Whaaaa? O.o
And how is she alive? O.O
Riiiiiight...
Sorry xD
I want to write something longer and consider your opinion, but I'm on my friends laptop and he wants to check his facebook so I have to go...=.= ><
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Genix said:
Why does everyone hate Yuki all of the sudden?

I never liked Yuki :D


THIS. She was annoying from the very beginning. Now it just got worse.

Poor Kaname-sama </3 :(


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Um...
One question...
When vampires die they turn to dust (or whatever) right?
So lets say that Kaname died long time ago...
How did Rido manage to reawake him If his body isnt there anymore...

Oh wait.... Purebloods live forever don't they? ><"
So was Kaname killed or something...(in his past, um..life)? Oo

Lol sorry... That probably didnt make any sence....XD

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Anyway he plans to use Yuki body or something as such for a container, for his old lover and he couldn't do this before or make the preperations because of Rido had him under control.

Hmmm...
Lets see...
" he couldn't do this before or make the preperations because of Rido had him under control"
And how was he under control? Rido wasnt even able to use his body....o.o
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Kanika said:

Genix said:
Why does everyone hate Yuki all of the sudden?

I never liked Yuki :D
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Please god help me quit this website.

Such great community that doesn't even know how demographics work, AND gives """detailed"""" reviews after first episodes.


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GothicQueen said:
I'm gonna wait till we get English translation before commenting...
But Im really pi**ed at Yuuki right now...=.="


I'll wait as well....but Yuuki....She really irritates me.........

lol sooooo true i cant believe its taking sooo long to publisise!
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Yuuki should make up her mind up already.
Life is really simple, but we insist on making it complicated.~
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Some of the posts on this discussion bothered me so much I was pushed to write my first post. No one will probably read it but I just hope to be helpful to those who do. I'll be clear and state that I am a full fledged Zero & Yuuki fan at the onset, so if you are no longer interested, that's fine.

On Zero's Powerfulness:
Okay, Zero completely tore down the Moon Building (as shown in this chapter) and experienced Vampire Hunters were shocked by his power. He's had the blood of three purebloods--two of whom were Kurans, with uber powerful blood--and not only comes from a distinguished line of vampire hunters (who are more than just the average human, I'm pretty sure) but he's now even more powerful with his brother's blood "completing" him. Not only this but he doesn't have to follow the orders of Purebloods-- he was even able to go against Shizuka's word, not something any normal or even noble vampire can do. Zero, by far, is not the least powerful of them all. Matsuri Hino, I'm assuming, carefully planned all of this out to make Zero on a level as close to Kaname as logically possible, and not only that but now he's up for Hunter Pres, and the balances are becoming more and more equal... Kaname fans, those are all facts, not biased in the least, stop deluding yourselves :p

On the Chapter:
I think it was necessary to tie up some loose ends like--what happened to Cross Academy (you know, the main setting of it all for 9 or so volumes!), what's happening with Zero (he's a tip of the triangle, important as Kaname, important as Yuuki), what Yuuki's true feelings are about being a vampire and her feelings for Zero (all really speculation before).

On Yuuki:
I actually felt really bad for Yuuki during this chapter, even more-so after seeing some of the harsh comments. I really don't think anyone bothered to place themselves in Yuuki's position, so I'd like to give some perspective: yes, everyone else has been moving on, because everyone else is not locked in a cage like Yuuki is. Yuuki hasn't been outside, hasn't actually been a part of anything but that house, for and ENTIRE YEAR. There's probably nothing she can do BUT pine--come on, everyone else has at least interacted with others in the real world, or has come back to some level of normality after the aftermath, but not Yuuki. She's still really young and was thrown into this situation against her will without warning, losing literally everything but Kaname and Aidou. (Did anyone else notice how sad Kaien looked after hearing Yagari mention Yuuki? :`( ) Because she trusts Kaname more than anything she isn't fighting to get out, but I can't wait until she grows up enough and does. Plus, she's a vampire now guys, and one that's going to live forever. Time means something else entirely, a year is nearly meaningless compared to thousands.

On Yuuki's Feelings (and Kaname's... and Zero's...):
To be honest (this may seem Zeki fueled, but I really really tried to like Kaname throughout the manga and just couldn't bring myself to) , I think she stays with him out of a mixture of pity, fear, and duty. She knows now he's been literally waiting for her for 10 years, and that takes dedication. She admitted she fears him (*cough*unhealthy relationship*cough*) but I think she fears living forever alone more than she fears him (if she does at all now). She had that whole flashback of what forever means and how lonely it would be to do so by yourself, and it's possible that she thinks that it's better to stay with Kaname who can give her forever than to be with Zero who might die sooner (who knows now that he's gotten all sorts of awesome :) ) And in terms of duty, they've been engaged for their entire lives, I think that it's the same as people who fuss over old lovers because they've "had so much history together". The vestiges of Yuuki's "high school girl like" crush remains, and I really think it's rooted in younger Yuuki, hence why I think Yuuki seems to de-evolve when she's with Kaname. She remains stagnant, in my opinion, because of Kaname. We know she still has a personality despite being a vampire because of Aidou, but she's OBVIOUSLY not as comfortable with Kaname. I think their relationship is way too formal to last, and Yuuki doesn't allow herself to open up with Kaname, but we'll see...

Kaname's love for Yuuki befuddles me. I think he loves her out of some duty too--he's convinced himself he's supposed to love her all this time, and because she's his sister (I've accepted the incest because technically it's common among their species, and who are we to judge other species) and convinces himself that he needs to protect her and save her due to this love, to the point that he's become very possessive. I think Zero saw that too. Kaname is way too Machiavellian, possessive, and manipulative for me.

Zero, on the other hand, may not have blatantly stated his feelings in chapter 1 like Yuuki did for Kaname but it's been REALLY clear throughout the series that he loves her (he didn't want her to turn into a vampire, protects her all the time, teases her, relies on her for comfort, has had an entire chapters dedicated to his love for her... come on, people! *rolls eyes*) Yuuki can be herself with him, even call him by only "Zero" which she can't bring herself to do with Kaname. Their relationship blossomed naturally without this bonded since the day you were born thing forcing her into the relationship. Yuuki helped save him in her own way by accepting him and always being there for him, thus losing her and his last relative (both situations were out of his hands and he could save neither) and becoming a full fledged vampire (no longer human because now he can take the pills) was a big shock to him too--guys stop being mean and hating on him and calling him emo. At least Kaname got the girl and shouldn't be as dark and sinister seeming anymore (oh wait, nevermind, still happening...)

Okay, that's a very very very long post. But I was getting so frustrated due to the other posts that I had to rant xD BTW, when and where did Matsuri Hino ever say she liked Kaname more and hated Zero? I've never heard that, and considering she needs both to fuel the two-sided fire (She needs to appease Kaname and Zero fans all in one chapter, guys, and the love triangle is what's at the heart and we'll have to deal with it.) Plus, not only Zero fans will be upset if things go their way--the Kaname fans on this are the ones actually threatening violence towards the mangaka, after all... xD
SpiritedSarahJan 6, 2011 6:36 PM
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Why does everyone hate Yuki all of the sudden?
It's drama people, drama!
She is struggling with her vampire instincts, a deep love for kaname and feelings for Zoro at the same time! Surely psychological issues have to surface at some point, right?

It's nice to see some of the facts of the aftermath at the academy to be told of too.


i agree with u completely
she is just dealing with a lot of things right now!!!

i love Aidou and Yuuki's interactions ^^
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