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I absolutely loved the last two episodes. I've watched them about a dozen times so far and i never tire of them because each time i watch them i can relate them to another facet of life and take a new meaning from them.

But it's not just the content which appeals to me, it's the presentation. What seems like babbling to many is to me a rich web of complex ideas linked together by the bare minimum of explanation and left open to the individual mind for a truly personal comprehension. And, as for the art: mind blowing.

The first 24 episodes were the filler. 25-26 are Evangelion.

I think it was certainly necessary filler, though. The last two episodes and the movie (End of Evangelion) would not have been nearly as amazing without the first 24 episodes.

I'm not denying that. I was just reading all the posts about how the last two episodes don't make sense etc and getting annoyed because, for me, the rest of the series is meaningless without those two episodes.

But of course, you're right, they wouldn't make any sense without the first 24.

You said it. A lot of people doesn't seem to understand what the ending is about. People who can relate to the main character knows what the movie is talking about. The ending was like mind teraphy. I guess someone has to explain more in depth. To me the ending raised the score from 8 to 9. It was that good.

If there is a perfect anime, this is the one.

I enjoyed the series ending as well as EoE. I think that you can't have one ending without the other, seeing as both complement each other beautifully with Instrumentality's rejection. As well as the message of learning to love yourself and that you can become happy because although life is full of pain...it's also full of pleasure too.

Even thou episode 25-26 was not very enjoyable, seeing the ending made it worth it. I liked it, but my head hurts now. >_<

i must say it's all way, way, way obvious (but nicely presented). im still baffled by how something as obvious as this can be accused of being psychobabble. in my mind, this is what all of the 24 first episodes slowly led to. the story acts as a disguise. what is really important should be found elsewhere. and shinji's final decision is truly one of the most heartwarming moments i've ever seen in any series/film/whatever ever.

im going to watch end of evangelion too, although i'll be surprised if its the superior ending

They needed far more funny school scenes in the finally two episodes to make up for all the mindless ranting.

What the shit just happened? o_Ø

ogrim88: Shinji's mind finally exploded. And was put back together.

I enjoyed this ending. More than End Of, at least. As I mentioned in a thread over in the End Of forum, this is the "internal" plot, and End Of is the "external" plot.

Given that, by the end of the series, the Angel battles weren't doing much for me, and I was more interested in characterization, I was more receptive to this "internal" plot.

Add to that the fact that End Of is a massive downer ending, while episode 26 contains rays of sunlight at the end of a long and dark story. Hey, I like happy endings.

...especially if they star a mellow version of the theme song.

WHAT THE HELL WAS THAT?!?!??!?!
I was totally lost from episode 23-25, hoping episode 26 would clear things up.... WHAT WAS THAT ABOUT?!

Nothing is concluded about the Angels or anything? What's with Adam? I REALLY DON'T GET.

Please, someone who understands what's going on PM me because it's the most ridiculous ending I've seen. Even Gantz and Berserk have better endings!!!


GEEZ.

Just watched this episode and I find it really boring.
I'm not against psychedelic scene and speech which pretend to be phylosophic but doing a whole episode only with that is too much for me.
Also even if I didn't really enjoy this episode it doesn't alterate my point of view of this show and overall I really love it.
I thought this episode was just a bonus like a summary episode and it doesn't really have an influence on the rest of the show.

PS : I voted it was okay, not really the most boring thing I've ever seen.

I completely agree with you. In a way, the insights and philosophy presented here are the culmination of Hideaki Anno's years of severe depressions. I willl mention it but not talk about it here, but I have suffered from severe depression or many years. Personally, the series is my absolute favorite and the last two episodes are my two favorite episodes of all time (animation or otherwise). My friends, who have never suffered from a severe form of depression (mild at worst), absolutely hate the series (and especially Shinji) with a passion (some of their reasons: Shinji's a winy brat, and "whats the point of making something so deep that no one can understand it").

Though I hated the 3-minute school part. They should at least made the short an allogory.

I will explain it more indepth later (my take on it is a little different). But the wikipedia pages are very helpful as is the "Evangelion" discussion on the Anime News Network forum.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Neon_Genesis_Evangelion_(anime)

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_End_of_Evangelion

http://www.animenewsnetwork.com/bbs/phpBB2/viewtopic.php?t=84182

heck I can't believe I survived this emo episode.

The last episode is just Shinji overcoming an inferiority complex. Which is basically what he was trying to do during the whole show, the last episode just did it at a psychological level. I was quite impressed by it when I saw it years ago, and what makes it even more impressive is how Anno chose to portray the ending all the while directing under severe budget restrictions for the final 2 episodes.

Shinji didn't have an inferiority complex. He simply felt unloved and that no one cares about him. Hence the title of the title of the previous episodes "Do You Love Me?". This episodes deals more with how he should live his life (again the title is "Take Care of Your Self"). An inferiority complex infers that he believes that everyone else is better then him and angry at the world for putting them down ("The man is keeping me down"). A good example of someone who suffers from that is Tetsuo from Akira. Contrast the two. When Tetsuo gains power, he goes beserk on others while when Shinji enters the Evangelion he keeps to his duty.

Again, try and read this forum on ANN. It is really, really long but is easily the most informative and profound discussion on the series on the internet.

http://www.animenewsnetwork.com/bbs/phpBB2/viewtopic.php?t=84182

One of the best endings ever with that of Gunbuster !

What was that?? O_o

It was very... weird. :S

But it wasn't too bad at all.

Yeah, that is also an inferiority complex, at least a cause of one. anyway, this episode obviously sucked.

first, it was emotionally unengaging, which was deliberate from the beginning, with all the ranting and the school scene and the illusionary encouragement everyone is giving him.

that would be fine, if it was intellectually engaging, which it isn't. the pseudo-psychological/philosophical rants were piles and pile of crap, to the point where even connoting it had a purpose is mildly offensive. It totally encapsulates the emo-ness and the arrogant and ignorant view teenagers have, which was probably why it was so groundbreaking. This defines the word 'immaturity' - immature psycology, immature philosophy, immature episode. So shallow, and so fake.

Even still, I do appreciate the choice by the director to try to engage intellectually, given the budget constraints and the overall flow of the show. If only what was said wasn't so patently fake and wrong, it would have suceeded. Maybe the writer should have let someone who knows what he's talking about do the ranting.