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| WHAT THE HELL WAS THAT?!?!??!?! I was totally lost from episode 23-25, hoping episode 26 would clear things up.... WHAT WAS THAT ABOUT?! Nothing is concluded about the Angels or anything? What's with Adam? I REALLY DON'T GET. Please, someone who understands what's going on PM me because it's the most ridiculous ending I've seen. Even Gantz and Berserk have better endings!!! GEEZ. |
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| Just watched this episode and I find it really boring. I'm not against psychedelic scene and speech which pretend to be phylosophic but doing a whole episode only with that is too much for me. Also even if I didn't really enjoy this episode it doesn't alterate my point of view of this show and overall I really love it. I thought this episode was just a bonus like a summary episode and it doesn't really have an influence on the rest of the show. PS : I voted it was okay, not really the most boring thing I've ever seen. |
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Strife91 said: A lot of people doesn't seem to understand what the ending is about. People who can relate to the main character knows what the movie is talking about. The ending was like mind teraphy. I guess someone has to explain more in depth. I completely agree with you. In a way, the insights and philosophy presented here are the culmination of Hideaki Anno's years of severe depressions. I willl mention it but not talk about it here, but I have suffered from severe depression or many years. Personally, the series is my absolute favorite and the last two episodes are my two favorite episodes of all time (animation or otherwise). My friends, who have never suffered from a severe form of depression (mild at worst), absolutely hate the series (and especially Shinji) with a passion (some of their reasons: Shinji's a winy brat, and "whats the point of making something so deep that no one can understand it"). Though I hated the 3-minute school part. They should at least made the short an allogory. I will explain it more indepth later (my take on it is a little different). But the wikipedia pages are very helpful as is the "Evangelion" discussion on the Anime News Network forum. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Neon_Genesis_Evangelion_(anime) http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_End_of_Evangelion http://www.animenewsnetwork.com/bbs/phpBB2/viewtopic.php?t=84182 |
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| heck I can't believe I survived this emo episode. |
| The last episode is just Shinji overcoming an inferiority complex. Which is basically what he was trying to do during the whole show, the last episode just did it at a psychological level. I was quite impressed by it when I saw it years ago, and what makes it even more impressive is how Anno chose to portray the ending all the while directing under severe budget restrictions for the final 2 episodes. |
PolleyPower said: The last episode is just Shinji overcoming an inferiority complex. Which is basically what he was trying to do during the whole show, the last episode just did it at a psychological level. I was quite impressed by it when I saw it years ago, and what makes it even more impressive is how Anno chose to portray the ending all the while directing under severe budget restrictions for the final 2 episodes. Shinji didn't have an inferiority complex. He simply felt unloved and that no one cares about him. Hence the title of the title of the previous episodes "Do You Love Me?". This episodes deals more with how he should live his life (again the title is "Take Care of Your Self"). An inferiority complex infers that he believes that everyone else is better then him and angry at the world for putting them down ("The man is keeping me down"). A good example of someone who suffers from that is Tetsuo from Akira. Contrast the two. When Tetsuo gains power, he goes beserk on others while when Shinji enters the Evangelion he keeps to his duty. Again, try and read this forum on ANN. It is really, really long but is easily the most informative and profound discussion on the series on the internet. http://www.animenewsnetwork.com/bbs/phpBB2/viewtopic.php?t=84182 |
Pierre_BezukhovJul 13, 2009 4:27 PM
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| One of the best endings ever with that of Gunbuster ! |
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| What was that?? O_o It was very... weird. :S But it wasn't too bad at all. |
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Pierre_Bezukhov said: Shinji didn't have an inferiority complex. He simply felt unloved and that no one cares about him. Yeah, that is also an inferiority complex, at least a cause of one. anyway, this episode obviously sucked. first, it was emotionally unengaging, which was deliberate from the beginning, with all the ranting and the school scene and the illusionary encouragement everyone is giving him. that would be fine, if it was intellectually engaging, which it isn't. the pseudo-psychological/philosophical rants were piles and pile of crap, to the point where even connoting it had a purpose is mildly offensive. It totally encapsulates the emo-ness and the arrogant and ignorant view teenagers have, which was probably why it was so groundbreaking. This defines the word 'immaturity' - immature psycology, immature philosophy, immature episode. So shallow, and so fake. Even still, I do appreciate the choice by the director to try to engage intellectually, given the budget constraints and the overall flow of the show. If only what was said wasn't so patently fake and wrong, it would have suceeded. Maybe the writer should have let someone who knows what he's talking about do the ranting. |
| Well I was split on the ending. I recognize that a smaller budget may have accounted for it, but it WAS kind of completely different from the rest of the anime. And they didn't exactly tie everything up. They only now did that in the movies. As an internet troll once said to me "Idk what to think, it [NGE] is like a freakin mind-rape man!" Having said that, the rest of the series and the way that it was all put together throughout the sereis called for a 10/10. Definetly one of the better animes I've seen yet. |
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| i love this anime but it could have a better ending! |
| Watch End of Evangelion if you want the better ending, it is seriously BETTER. Still not easy to understand in the slightest, but it features an amazing fight scene and some REAL epic scenes. Also, hopefully Evangelion 4.0 will rework the ending to be slightly less of a mess. |
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Psychodrake said: Watch End of Evangelion if you want the better ending, it is seriously BETTER. Still not easy to understand in the slightest, but it features an amazing fight scene and some REAL epic scenes. Also, hopefully Evangelion 4.0 will rework the ending to be slightly less of a mess. I thought that the plot was going to be completely different from towards the end of 2.0? |
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| It definitely looks that way from trailers and from what I've heard from people who saw it, 1.0 had very little changes though. |
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| what what what? wtf happened did they all die i don't get it? ig to to see the movies right away... the best part was the school day the rest just... weird... |
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Danchou said: what what what? wtf happened did they all die i don't get it? ig to to see the movies right away... the best part was the school day the rest just... weird... The school day is supposed to be what life might be like if not for the Evangelion program and the Angels. The episode is supposed to explore Shinji's psyche, rather than depict the events that affected people in the physical realm. |
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| Ahh, I never thought about it that way. That's really interesting. Would you mind elaborating? |
| Avatar character is Gabriel from Gabriel DropOut. |
| NGE was so great early on ... when the original rei dies it all goes downhill from there :( all this psycho ness in the last episodes and movies went over my head |
| Well I guess thats why its categorized as a psychological anime, if you go into watching it you need to expect this sort of thing. In NGE's case, people are still trying to put the pieces together, and its created many online communities dedicated to such a thing. I personally thought the ending was fantastic, the psychological elements sent shivers down my spine, it almost turned into a horror during episode 19-26 (Or End of Evangelion, both work). |
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| I fucking loved this series. Sure, even though I was expecting it, the ending still was..strange. But, the show as a whole had some of the best scenes i've seen anime. So, it gets a well deserved 10. especially if EoE rocks. |
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| The ending? Totally uncalled for. What crap. Yea so shinji has a revelation, we didn't need our hand held through the entire thought process. I would have rather watched the outcome of his final resolve in his daily life. I don't even know what I just watched there. |
| so confusing that I have to watch it again,, but I'm happy that they made the movie of end of evangelion..^^ |
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| This ending was awesome..but it also sucked at the same time. Through the whole series they have all of these awesome characters, kickass fights with the eva's and the Angel's, and a good storyline then the end it like that!? dang... but still one of the best I have watched in a while |
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| I see now why this famous ending is infamous...... I hope that End of Evangelion wouldn't be this pathetic. |
| the ending sucks |
Malevolent said: Hmm, it was easy to understand what they were trying to do, but it's also common knowledge that their budget wasn't the biggest near the end. So, I find it hard to really like this ending with the thought that it might not be what they wanted. And with the fact that they made End of Evangelion (which I love) and are doing the rebuild with possible new endings also lend some credit to the original ending being due to budget constraints. Given this, I don't think the original ending is terrible. It lets us think that Shinji finally made some progress psychologically, which is what I think the whole series was about. But at the same time, there were just so many things left unanswered or partially explained. So, needless to say, I prefer End of Evangelion since the result is similar but with more explanations. And who knows, the rebuild might be the best yet, if they change it. agreed =) |
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| I've heard so much about the two last episodes of NGE, tht they're horrible, ruing the series etc. so I wasn't expecting it to be anything more than babble with pictures. ...but I actually loved it. This series wasn't about action, it was about the characters - about Shinji in particular. And I'm glad he was finally able to change his way of thinking about himself and the world. Of course I'm curious what happened outside his mind, but we have End of Evangelion for that. Still, even if there was no EoE, I'd enjoy the ending of the series. Because the point is, whatever happens, whether the world ends or is saved, the important thing is that Shinji's not such a mess anymore and he can fight till the end or he can enjoy the new, peaceful world with people close to him. I belong to the minority that thinks this was a great ending. |
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| mega crap ending i couldnt really follow the anime after episode 20 it got really codfusing, they should remake NGE i bet it would get Big bucks! When the original was so crap and still is popular |
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| me too i enjoyed watching anime very much but these 25-26 eps were waste of time, they could make it in 10 in i still think. Ending was confusing... I didnt liked it... but maybe ill do some mini rewatch for all eps... maybe ill catch some more things from it. my vote - 3 |
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JustLegend said: me too i enjoyed watching anime very much but these 25-26 eps were waste of time, they could make it in 10 in i still think. Ending was confusing... I didnt liked it... but maybe ill do some mini rewatch for all eps... maybe ill catch some more things from it. my vote - 3 Remember to watch End of Evangelion. Its the ending with a budget. |
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| Ok, no reason to hide now, they probably didn't have the money to eat just so they could make those final minutes of this episode and "finish" the series. Anyway DISAPPOINTED. Although I was not expecting anything due to what I hward before. However... it still manages to entertain me, so I guess it wasn´t that bad, we get an insightful look on Shinji and how he changed (seriously great character development here) and some really deep meaningful thoughts. Overall, it wasn't half bad, cos I wasn't expecting anything, but it did disapoint. Comparing this no budget ending to the black and white super budgeted final episode of Top Wo Nerae is like comparing a pretty shell with a raw diamond. |
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| The anime was more then okay for me overall although the ending did seem a bit odd. I can't say I loved the ending but I didn't dislike it either. The anime is worth the 8/10 I'll give it in my opinion. Can't wait to see End of Evangelion thou since I've read it will be the movie that will wrap this series up quite nicely. |
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Smasher said: The anime was more then okay for me overall although the ending did seem a bit odd. I can't say I loved the ending but I didn't dislike it either. The anime is worth the 8/10 I'll give it in my opinion. Can't wait to see End of Evangelion thou since I've read it will be the movie that will wrap this series up quite nicely. It will wrap the series alright... but not quiet nicely IMO >_< But seriously, amazing movie |
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Veethorn said: It will wrap the series alright... but not quiet nicely IMO >_< But seriously, amazing movie Yea, considering the kind of anime this is that might have been the, eehm, wrong choice of words =_=; Dammit, due to work I'll have to wait at least 2 more days before I can watch it, thanks for making me anticipate it even more, BAH ^_^# (jk) |
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| I actually liked it even though it was a bit confusing. Shinji finally sorts out his feelings and finds that he has a reason to live, other than to pilot Eva, although they could have gone farther with it I'm sure. |
Haruka-sama said: I actually liked it even though it was a bit confusing. Shinji finally sorts out his feelings and finds that he has a reason to live, other than to pilot Eva, although they could have gone farther with it I'm sure. they had no money to eat, how could they go further with it |
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| i wonder if they give some explanation in movies otherwise it will not to end up as i had hoped. unanswered questions annoys me. I agree with Trojun. Trojun said: I would have rather watched a blank screen with written text of a good ending than watched "your world is defined by your perception of it" stretched out for 45 minutes over two episodes. |
Beatnik said: Why do you think we've got numerous movies that keep retelling the ending? Why? Because ignorant viewers such as yourself thought it better to bash the TV ending instead of just analyzing it. Now of course, Anno was planning to use the script that was EoE for the last 2 episodes, but the producer said they could not. |
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