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@imbs, I appreciate your words but in my opinion other posters were making sense as well (well, except for AndyRayy). Anyway, it's good to see you having rational view on Achiga's problems.

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Shizu having an ability is foreshadowed

Comedy gold.

I'll try to join the ever-lasting debate when I find more time.

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You should try playing some actual mahjong before stating things like this. Saki's mahjong is literally just objectively better than the power level idiocy in Achiga-hen. Why does Awai lose to Shindouji combo? That's right, b/c the shindouji combo is just better. Why does Awai lose to Shizu's monkey magic? Because that has the higher power level. Why do Toki's interupts not work against Teru? Because Teru has a higher power level. Same goes for Ryuuka and most of the others, and it just tells you who the winner is in most hands.

I honestly don't understand your post. You say "I thought the actual mahjong was better in Achiga" and then you acknowledge that it's all deus ex stupidity. You literally defeat your own opinion.

The original is so much better. You get amazing plays like the chankan from yumi, Saki distracting Koromo by powering up other player's hands with kan dora, deliberately letting herself be chankanned (which was possibly the very best single play of the series). There are so many more too. The only play (There is literally only one) in Achiga-hen that compares to any of them is Teru discarding the 3-pin and then subsequently ponning Subara's 3-pin after that.

Progeusz literally the only sense-making poster on this page (besides guy above me, I totally understand that). I'm sorry but Achiga is just factually awful mahjong-wise compared to the original, or even Plot armor: the anime aka Akagi. The main characters are all terrible too, with contrived powers when the plot demands it besides from Arata. It goes for the manga too, although I won't go into the specifics there.

It gets worse when you look at what the players are there for. Shizuno and Kuro's powers have been decided because of the plot, nothing more. They are less than characters. They are plot devices for limiting the Miyanaga's powers. That's literally it. Don't get me started on Ryuuka's power either. That was embarrassingly contrived.

And speaking of plot devices, Harue is possibly the worst character of the series. Just wow she's bad. I wouldn't expect to get that level of stupidity anywhere, and I was expecting to like her after she is shown to be crying near the start about getting destroyed by the grandmaster. My favourite idiotic Harue moment: Sumire's tell explanation. There are so many problems with that arc that Achiga would literally be a better show if you just deleted it.

Perhaps before everyone gets their panties into a twist trying to defend their precious moe mahjong from a "typed up in about a minute" post from a fellow fan, perhaps you should do a little more analysis of what I actually meant.

As you recall, I said that I wasn't watching it with any kind of serious mindset, meaning that I watched the matches with the intent of simply seeing some silly, over the top interpretations of a mahjong match. And as you folks are making quite clear, Achiga-hen succeeds quite well in that regard if you aren't scrutinously analyzing the progression of everyone's power and every other little detail.

I suppose you guys' opinions to this show are reminiscent of the bandwagon haters toward SAO; they hate it and think it is the most terrible thing ever, but I at least enjoyed because I watched it with the mindset that it would be exactly as illogical but damn entertaining as it oftentimes was. Besides, as I said, I liked that style of mahjong in Achiga-hen more so entertainment-wise, but if you took the 5 seconds (or 5 minutes, with MAL loading the way it is) to look at my list, you'd see that the original has always been scored overall better than the spin-off. Heck, I even acknowledged that the deus ex machina, shounen-esque methods of power acquisition caused me to watch this series (i.e. Achiga-hen) as a no brainer, yet you people still continue to throw unnecessary logic toward me as if I don't know or needed to be lectured as though I'm DraconisMarch bitching about a new season of "pedo pandering garbage" or something.

And before you go making assumptions about me based on a single post I made on a random news topic expressing my joy over a new season, yes, I indeed do dabble in the art of mahjong and I'd wager to say that I'd quite easily overwhelm half of the posters here flaunting their terminology penises around.

Progeusz said:
other posters were making sense as well (well, except for AndyRayy).

I read that as:

other posters, to varying degrees, share my opinion as well (well, except for AndyRayy).

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Oct 23, 2013 6:47 AM

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AndyRayy said:

Progeusz said:
other posters were making sense as well (well, except for AndyRayy).

I read that as:

other posters, to varying degrees, share my opinion as well (well, except for AndyRayy).

Nope, I have never thought like that. You read it wrong and insulted me doing so.

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the actual mahjong was better in Achiga-hen

doesn't make sense, that's all, it's not a matter of tastes.

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Progeusz said:

I'll try to join the ever-lasting debate when I find more time.

You were in it the first time. In fact, if I remember rightly you were the one that started it in the first place.

There is no such thing as shit taste. Only idiots who think everyone should have the same taste as they do.

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Progeusz said:

AndyRayy said:
the actual mahjong was better in Achiga-hen

doesn't make sense, that's all, it's not a matter of tastes.

I'd say that the very fact that we disagree about this (I think it was, you think it wasn't) shows that it is indeed a matter of taste.

Perhaps this entire futile retaliation to my opinion will be doused if I simply rephrase "better" to "more entertaining" since I watch anime to be entertained. That which entertains me more will generally be thought of as better.

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kuuderes_shadow said:

Progeusz said:

I'll try to join the ever-lasting debate when I find more time.

You were in it the first time. In fact, if I remember rightly you were the one that started it in the first place.

I'm not sure what you mean by "first time" but yes, I was talking about it in various places since raws of captain match chapters came out.

@AndyRayy, there's a difference between "better" and "more entertaining". First term can't always be considered purely subjective. If you said that matches were better, that would be okay. But saying that actual mahjong is better? No way in hell.

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@AndyRayy, there's a difference between "better" and "more entertaining". First term can't always be considered purely subjective. If you said that matches were better, that would be okay. But saying that actual mahjong is better? No way in hell.

I at least can see where you're coming from, but as this series has a lot of non-mahjong elements in it (most specifically, the slice of life-ish portions), "actual mahjong" is simply referring to when they're actually playing mahjong. As such, 'actual mahjong' was indeed referring to the matches, though I suppose that may not have been clear enough without this added context.

Though I still think that the actual gameplay could, to an extent, be a matter of opinion, I do indeed agree that the original was many notches above in that regard.

Finally, if I insulted you earlier, I do apologize. But I also took offense to the fact that you would specifically call out my comment as "not making sense" simply because it apparently fell out of line with your particular thoughts, especially when it would appear that the comment was focused on a slight misinterpretation in the first place.

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kuuderes_shadow said:

Yes, Toki tries to change the drawing order but her ability itself has nothing to do with the flow of the game.
And I don't think it was presented as Teru being particularly skillful in her winning anyway - it was presented as an inevitability. If something is inevitable then there really isn't any skill involved in making it happen.

Toki's ability may not have anything to do with the flow of the game, but her interuption attempt certainly was. She saw Teru was about to win, and tried to change the flow of the game. She even says as much during the match. I remember because it irritated me when it wasn't explained. The attempt failed because it was Teru. And skillful? Arguing that it isn't pressented as such is besides the point. If skillful isn't the right word then try powerful. It supposedly works because of Teru's power, not luck.

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A character's ability serving a particular purpose for the story isn't a bad thing unless it serves no purpose when up against anybody else. Which clearly isn't the case here - Kuro's dora-hoarding abilities enable her to win big against weaker opponents, or to prevent Teru from being able to use dora to strengthen her hand, and

. And Shizu's powers worked just as well on Awai, and seemed like they were having an impact on the Shindouji duo as well.

I'm okay with most of this, but I disagree that it's okay that Kuro's ability was so transparently designed with Teru in mind. I'm glad that it directly affects Yuuki as well, but I can't help feel that that is just a coincidental by-product. And I don't think there is any defending Shizu.

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No, they're not. But they did fail to live up to the hype that they were presented with - the only one of the 13 teams the series focuses on (8 semi-finalists, the 2 teams that are beaten in Saki's quarters, and the other 3 teams from the finals of the regionals) that is considerably weaker than them is Kazekoshi. Shiraitodai has a mega-powerhouse in the form of Teru, a strong player in the form of Sumire, a really weak player who could nonetheless cause havoc if in the wrong position on the table in the form of Takami, a weak player whose abilities make her even weaker in the form of Seiko, and a powerful and arrogant monster who met with humiliation towards the end of the semi-finals in the form of Awai.

If it wasn't for the hype you would be calling them a strong school - not overwhelmingly so, and maybe not even the strongest in the series, but a strong one nonetheless. But yes, they aren't as strong as the hype made them out to be - and the media within the series is still making them out to be. Because they were made out to be superpowers, and then brought down to the level which they actually are - very much contention for the championships, but not overwhelming favourite.

In terms of overall strength? Sure, but that's just because of how fearsome Teru is. If you ignore the vanguard for a second, Shiraitodai are suddenly weaker than way too many teams. Even Kazekoshi would be stronger if they happened to have kana at vanguard instead of Mihoko. Seiko had -60,000 vs non-monster players. Okay there's an ace, and Arata recieved an (acceptable) semi-final power up, but it's still pathetic. Sumire? Sure, but that's one decent player at best, whose ability is likely countered by several normal ability players, and wouldn't stand a chance against monsters. Compared to Ryuumonbuchi, Rinkai and probably Usuzan they come up short. Usuzan are supposed to be a two man team, yet their worst player scored better than Seiko against one of the best players we've seen so far.

Either way I'm not sure going further into this is a good idea, as I believe we can agree at the least that the hype was done badly. I suspect those players who did badly for Shiraitodai lost those points purely to make sure Achiga won because of the whole semi final thing. Whilst it's awful writing at least it confirms there's no chance of Achiga winning the final.

kuuderes_shadow said:

I can't be bothered to argue this out again. I've got bored of that argument. I've already gone over in detail, on multiple occasions, both BEFORE as well as during/after the final match of the semifinals, how Shizu having an ability is foreshadowed and doesn't come out of nowhere. Go read through the threads on the manga or anime forums if you actually want to see the points I would just be repeating here.

Even if you are right, and you likely even are, it is still awful. Slight foreshadowing followed by losing to everyone is unacceptable for a main character to suddenly power up so badly in anything but shounen aimed at <10 year olds. It really is slight as well, the foreshadowing. I've seen the arguments. It's just not acceptable. Shizu literally does terrible against almost everyone we see her against ... even against the normals of Bansei she does badly (if I recall correctly. It's been a while).

Shizu should either have been her same determined, genki-girl self who never gives up, or that power should have been built up from the start. Her personality even changes drastically and suddenly.... It's not clever and understandable changes like Saki's either. It's sudden, unexplained and nonsensical. "It's not your territory anymore" is utterly out of character for her to say. They put it in simply because they thought it was a cool line, ie they put it in for 12 year olds.

@AndyRayy
It must be wonderful to be able to lower your standards so badly that you can enjoy drivel like Achiga and SAO so much, but some of us cannot. My (somewhat tame, in my opinion) insult was not worse than your writing people who don't like those shows off as 'bandwagoning' either.

Your comments don't make sense either. "The actual mahjong in Achiga is better than in Saki" is a comment that deserves ridicule.

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imbs said:
@AndyRayy
It must be wonderful to be able to lower your standards so badly that you can enjoy drivel like Achiga and SAO so much, but some of us cannot.

Sorry for jumping in again, but again I see no reason that you have to belittle anime like SAO and Achiga as "drivel" and said that people who enjoy those anime are "lowering standards so badly". I enjoyed SAO a lot, and I also enjoyed Achiga, even though I could agree with a lot of things you said about how the power of various characters in Achiga are poorly constructed and developed compared with Saki. One thing I definitely agree with AndyRayy is that if he does not put as much emphasis on that part of the anime and taken as a whole (including the non-Mahjong parts) enjoyed Achiga greatly then he could say that Achiga is good, even better, in his opinion. And if you cared about the layout of powers and the mahjong games a lot more, then surely you would judge Achiga a lot worse and found it not enjoyable, but that does not necessary that people are "lowering standards badly" to enjoy it. It is more like they do not have the same high standard on certain aspect of the anime, but they may have really high standard in aspects that they care (and because those aspects are done well, they find it enjoyable). Same with SAO, we can be open about its flaws, perhaps even critical of certain parts of it, but we can still enjoy it overall. This is not lowering standard; this is just knowing how to enjoy the anime.

So MAL finally starts locking news threads that are only a few weeks old?

I wonder where was the announcement of this change? Or we are seeing yet another case of changes made that impacted users but not communicated to them?

I wonder how long people would put up with this.

As much as I have a bunch of information to share about anime announced recently I cannot share it in news board, and the anime series is too disorganized and chaotic to share information except with people already interested in the particular series.

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@symbv

When I referred to those shows as drivel, that is just my opinion I can accept that you don't share it, and when I said "lowering standards" i was paraphrasing this;

but I at least enjoyed because I watched it with the mindset that it would be exactly as illogical but damn entertaining as it oftentimes was.

He's saying here, if I've understood him correctly, that he can ignore predictable or obvious flaws when necessary to enjoy an anime because of a different aspect that appeals to him (and I believe you are saying this in your post as well).
I enjoyed the Teru match well enough for example, mainly because of the aesthetics and the 3-pin pon, despite the flaws. I cannot ignore the flaws though, unlike apparently andyrayy can. The way Toki couldn't win against Teru after the 3-pin was often very lame, and it took away from the match for me.

Either way, I was not attemptting to sound condescending, even if certain tastes in shows do baffle me :). Sure, saying "lowering standards" is harsher than "ignoring flaws", but that's what I was getting at. You are free to enjoy whatever you like, regardless of what I say about it. Even Saki is questionable by some people's standards considering the amount of fan service, so yeah.

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^ Thanks for explaining where you came from. That makes more sense now, although I do believe that his comment that it is "illogical but damn entertaining" applies to many series, from anime/manga in Japan to cartoon/comics in the west, that deal with superpower and related battles. Perhaps this is why I do not see it as necessarily meaning he is "lowering standards". I see it more like applying a standard that matches with what the series expect you to hold.

And as I said, how much one can enjoy a series depends a lot on how you weigh different elements of it, how much tolerance you can bear regarding things you not so like versus how intense you love the things you do like. Different people would have different ways or approaches - some would match well with what the anime offers but some would not. This is why even all of us paid good attention and agreed on all the details, we could still end up having split opinion about a series. This is where the objective mixes with the subjective, and facts with opinions.

So MAL finally starts locking news threads that are only a few weeks old?

I wonder where was the announcement of this change? Or we are seeing yet another case of changes made that impacted users but not communicated to them?

I wonder how long people would put up with this.

As much as I have a bunch of information to share about anime announced recently I cannot share it in news board, and the anime series is too disorganized and chaotic to share information except with people already interested in the particular series.

Oct 23, 2013 11:46 AM

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symbv said:
^ Thanks for explaining where you came from. That makes more sense now, although I do believe that his comment that it is "illogical but damn entertaining" applies to many series, from anime/manga in Japan to cartoon/comics in the west, that deal with superpower and related battles. Perhaps this is why I do not see it as necessarily meaning he is "lowering standards". I see it more like applying a standard that matches with what the series expect you to hold.

I think that's slightly different. I mean, if you apply real life standards Saki is illogical the same way Achiga is, the same way multitudes of shows are. But they can still be illogical towards their own world as well, break their own rules and I think that's always a bad thing.

I would argue for example, that Shizu breaks the rules of the Sakiverse when she has that ridiculously occult ability at the end. The biggest clue we have regarding Shizu's level of occultness is Saki's stroll past her. In that instance she and her friends were all terrified of Saki, but Shizu took way longer to notice it than Harue or Kuro.

This told us that Shizu may have had some kind of a small ability, but nothing major. When the show crapped all over that idea in the final it broke its own logic, and became a flaw. It was illogical to the show's rules, which is far different than just being illogical.

As for the rest of your post, yeah I pretty much agree especially the objective vs. subjective stuff. Progeusz points that out in a good way too above I think. If andyrayy had said "I really preferred the mahjong in Achiga to Saki." instead of what he said, I might have said I disagreed, but I wouldn't have been able to say he was wrong.

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What a wonderful day for today? Mushishi first, then Azazel-san, and now Saki? Oh God.

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I was honestly expecting a minefield of insults and fallacies to be thrown my way when I came back to this thread, but I must admit I'm pleasantly surprised.

Anyhow...

imbs said:
It must be wonderful to be able to lower your standards so badly that you can enjoy drivel like Achiga and SAO so much, but some of us cannot.

First off, thank you symbv for your input. I was having a rather annoying real life experience when I first read it, so seeing that someone understood what I was saying was definitely a day-maker indeed.

As for the comment, it's exactly as as symbv said. To call what I do "lowering my standards" is a bit of a stretch. To quote what I said:

but I at least enjoyed because I watched it with the mindset that it would be exactly as illogical but damn entertaining as it oftentimes was.

As in, I went into the show from the start expecting it to be exactly what is was.

I didn't begin watching it, realized I hated it, then decided that I would somehow force myself to like it by making myself lower the standard for what I consider good so that I can trick myself into finishing it and enjoying it. No, that's just masochistic silly.

Even if only subconsciously, we all go into shows with some kind of pre-standard that we expect the show to live up to, whether it be from hype, familiarity with the source material, or anything else. As I'd seen the original years ago (it was literally one of the first anime I'd ever watched, from what feels like ages ago) and could most clearly remember that it involved a lot of cute girls with superpowers playing mahjong, I went into the spin-off with the mindset of "okay, this is going to be a slice of life-ish sports anime with some superpowered mahjong players" and that was it. I had no expectation of how logical the matches were supposed to be, how developed the characters should be, etc. As such, so long as my initial standards were met (and they definitely were), I was open to anything they threw at me, so long as it didn't lessen my enjoyment to the point of feeling like a chore.

This is what I meant when I said I enjoyed it. I have separate standards for how I "objectively" rate shows (I know it's not possible, but we all how our personal ideas of what qualities make a show objectively good) and for whether I will simply enjoy a show. Using the SAO example, I have it rated among the most average of series I've ever seen (since I was indeed able to see the obvious flaws and inconsistencies with the show), but I was able to enjoy the hell out of it since I went in expecting exactly what it became (anything super-hyped tends to automatically lower my expectations to nearly zero, to the point where I can pretty much only be positively surprised).

Perhaps this may be a difference in our mindsets, but it seems that if you see a big enough flaw, it will distract you from the entire series at hand and cause you to begin viewing it in a negative light. Now, while I also notice those inconsistencies and logic-breakers as they happen, my mind does not hone in on them and detract from my enjoyment, so long as they are not glaringly obvious/stupid/immersion breaking (and this, of course, will vary from person to person). As such, I'm not "ignoring the flaws" so much as I'm simply, how do I say, tolerant of them so long as I feel that the parts I like are worth the negatives.

imbs said:
If andyrayy had said "I really preferred the mahjong in Achiga to Saki." instead of what he said, I might have said I disagreed

Once more, to quote what I said:

...I thought the actual mahjong was better in Achiga-hen. The non-mahjong parts were okay, but that's where I thought it really shined.

Again, I went into this show with the expectation of cute girls, superpowered mahjong and that's it. And regardless of how anyone feels about how the matches themselves were played out, I'd say it'd be pretty hard to deny that this show is not those two things.

As such, my expectations were met spot on (the very fact that I went into the show with those expectations means that I wanted to at least see just that), so I found the crazy mahjong parts better. And please do note that, in that sentence, better /= logically/"objectively"/realistically/mahjong-ly better, but more entertaining (i.e. better entertainment). I've already gone a bit deeper into this in an earlier response as well.

Though I honestly feel this entire backlash, so to speak, to my comment is just a matter of semantics, since what everyone thinks I meant is not even what I actually meant, making this entire thing a terrific example of the almighty misinterpretation.

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This is kind of unrelated but just thought I'd say that one cannot simply compare a 2009 series with 2009 material, with a 2012 series containing 2012 material? Three years is a big gap. >>

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MagicFlier said:
This is kind of unrelated but just thought I'd say that one cannot simply compare a 2009 series with 2009 material, with a 2012 series containing 2012 material? Three years is a big gap. >>

You certainly can, especially when you consider the idea that the material came from the same source and that both mangas were released side by side for a while. Comparing the side B material that came out alongside the side A stuff leaves things heavily stacked in side B's favour yet still.

It really is almost certainly because one was made for a shounen magazine. I'm just thankful that the new spinoff is not being released in a similar magazine (as far as I know at least)

@AndyRayy

That's all fine, if, as it seems, you realise there are big flaws then I have no complaints.
When I went into Saki I was expecting yuri, fanservice in a fun 5-8/10 series. I downloaded it about 3 months before I even tried it. And yet it's now one of my favourite series and I follow everything about it, so you can imagine my frustration at the (in my opinion) massive disappointment that was Achiga. I do apologise for causing any offense though, even if that seems odd considering the tone of some of my posts.

You are probably right about this by the way;

but it seems that if you see a big enough flaw, it will distract you from the entire series at hand and cause you to begin viewing it in a negative light. Now, while I also notice those inconsistencies and logic-breakers as they happen, my mind does not hone in on them and detract from my enjoyment, so long as they are not glaringly obvious/stupid/immersion breaking (and this, of course, will vary from person to person). As such, I'm not "ignoring the flaws" so much as I'm simply, how do I say, tolerant of them so long as I feel that the parts I like are worth the negatives.

When I watched SAO, I really couldn't get past the main characters. Kirito is such a blatant gary stu, I really detest that kind of thing. Don't get me wrong, I think it's really bad in other ways too, but yeah.

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Miyuki Hashimoto again, huh? Can't say I'm disappointed with that. Or that I wasn't expecting it.

There is no such thing as shit taste. Only idiots who think everyone should have the same taste as they do.

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Saki official Twitter has announced that one cast member will be announced every weekday beginning Monday, November 18, for the next three weeks. These are cast members for Eisui Girls' High School, Himematsu High School, and Miyamori Girls' High School. Vanguards will be announced on Mondays, Sergeants on Tuesdays, etc.

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The first cast announcement:

Hayami Saori to voice Jindai Komaki of Eisui high school

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So MAL finally starts locking news threads that are only a few weeks old?

I wonder where was the announcement of this change? Or we are seeing yet another case of changes made that impacted users but not communicated to them?

I wonder how long people would put up with this.

As much as I have a bunch of information to share about anime announced recently I cannot share it in news board, and the anime series is too disorganized and chaotic to share information except with people already interested in the particular series.

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She should do a fine job with a voice somewhere between Ayase and Ikaros.

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Progeusz said:
She should do a fine job with a voice somewhere between Ayase and Ikaros.

And I find that Hayami Saori has done a lot more Shinto Shrine Priestess (Miko) characters than others. Not sure if it is one reason why she is picked to voice this character though.

So MAL finally starts locking news threads that are only a few weeks old?

I wonder where was the announcement of this change? Or we are seeing yet another case of changes made that impacted users but not communicated to them?

I wonder how long people would put up with this.

As much as I have a bunch of information to share about anime announced recently I cannot share it in news board, and the anime series is too disorganized and chaotic to share information except with people already interested in the particular series.

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symbv said:

Progeusz said:
She should do a fine job with a voice somewhere between Ayase and Ikaros.

And I find that Hayami Saori has done a lot more Shinto Shrine Priestess (Miko) characters than others. Not sure if it is one reason why she is picked to voice this character though.

Unless they've completely changed tack since the first series, I doubt they took that into any consideration at all.

There is no such thing as shit taste. Only idiots who think everyone should have the same taste as they do.

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kuuderes_shadow said:
Unless they've completely changed tack since the first series, I doubt they took that into any consideration at all.

Not sure what you are trying to say here?

So MAL finally starts locking news threads that are only a few weeks old?

I wonder where was the announcement of this change? Or we are seeing yet another case of changes made that impacted users but not communicated to them?

I wonder how long people would put up with this.

As much as I have a bunch of information to share about anime announced recently I cannot share it in news board, and the anime series is too disorganized and chaotic to share information except with people already interested in the particular series.

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kuuderes_shadow said:

symbv said:

Progeusz said:
She should do a fine job with a voice somewhere between Ayase and Ikaros.

And I find that Hayami Saori has done a lot more Shinto Shrine Priestess (Miko) characters than others. Not sure if it is one reason why she is picked to voice this character though.

Unless they've completely changed tack since the first series, I doubt they took that into any consideration at all.

Are you by any chance implying there was something wrong with Saki?

Nov 18, 2013 4:15 AM

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Progeusz said:

kuuderes_shadow said:

symbv said:

Progeusz said:
She should do a fine job with a voice somewhere between Ayase and Ikaros.

And I find that Hayami Saori has done a lot more Shinto Shrine Priestess (Miko) characters than others. Not sure if it is one reason why she is picked to voice this character though.

Unless they've completely changed tack since the first series, I doubt they took that into any consideration at all.

Are you by any chance implying there was something wrong with Saki?

Not at all. Just take a look at the people who voiced each of the main cast. Almost all of them are often associated with characters or character types that are completely different to those they play in Saki.

There is no such thing as shit taste. Only idiots who think everyone should have the same taste as they do.

Nov 18, 2013 4:33 AM

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^ That may be true, but I can't help feeling that when there is a miko character, some staff may come up with the name of Hayami Saori. So even if the policy is not one that casts characters with seiyuu who usually voice that character type, I wonder for the case of miko, Hayami Saori may get some priority consideration.

So MAL finally starts locking news threads that are only a few weeks old?

I wonder where was the announcement of this change? Or we are seeing yet another case of changes made that impacted users but not communicated to them?

I wonder how long people would put up with this.

As much as I have a bunch of information to share about anime announced recently I cannot share it in news board, and the anime series is too disorganized and chaotic to share information except with people already interested in the particular series.

Nov 18, 2013 6:24 AM

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Some genius on 2ch was able to pull the other character voices by changing the mp3 file URL. The mp3 files have since been taken down, but pretty obvious voices have been revealed.

These voices match my expectations pretty well. I can see them voicing these characters.

Eisui Girls' High School
Komaki Jindai: Saori Hayami
Tomoe Karijuku: ?
Haru Takimi: Yuka Iguchi
Hatsumi Usuzumi: ?
Kasumi Iwato: Sayaka Oohara

Himematsu High School
Suzu Ueshige: ?
Yuuko Mase: ?
Hiroe Atago: ?
Kinue Atago: ?
Kyouko Suehara: ?

Miyamori Girls' High School
Shiromi Kosegawa: ?
Aislinn Wishart: ?
Kurumi Kakura: Kana Asumi
Sae Usuzawa: Rina Satou
Toyone Anetai: Aki Toyosaki

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Nov 18, 2013 6:32 AM

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^ It was took down within one hour of the revelation staring to circulate in 2ch. You said the voices matched your expectations. Does it mean you heard the mp3 files? If so do you still have those mp files?

So MAL finally starts locking news threads that are only a few weeks old?

I wonder where was the announcement of this change? Or we are seeing yet another case of changes made that impacted users but not communicated to them?

I wonder how long people would put up with this.

As much as I have a bunch of information to share about anime announced recently I cannot share it in news board, and the anime series is too disorganized and chaotic to share information except with people already interested in the particular series.

Nov 18, 2013 12:32 PM

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symbv said:
^ It was took down within one hour of the revelation staring to circulate in 2ch. You said the voices matched your expectations. Does it mean you heard the mp3 files? If so do you still have those mp files?

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Nov 18, 2013 7:44 PM

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rederoin said:

symbv said:
^ It was took down within one hour of the revelation staring to circulate in 2ch. You said the voices matched your expectations. Does it mean you heard the mp3 files? If so do you still have those mp files?

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Thank you.

BTW, the list given in arsonal's post is just one guess stated in Yaraon blog. I have seen other guesses, though some are obvious enough that the guesses are consensual (like the Toyosaki Aki one). On the other hand, in arsonal's post Haru is put as Iguchi Yuka but there are guesses that the voice is Asumi Kana or Mizubashi Kaori or some others.

So MAL finally starts locking news threads that are only a few weeks old?

I wonder where was the announcement of this change? Or we are seeing yet another case of changes made that impacted users but not communicated to them?

I wonder how long people would put up with this.

As much as I have a bunch of information to share about anime announced recently I cannot share it in news board, and the anime series is too disorganized and chaotic to share information except with people already interested in the particular series.

Nov 18, 2013 8:59 PM

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I was mainly referring to the nature of the characters, and I think the seiyuu voices would match them very well if those are indeed correct.

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Nov 18, 2013 9:05 PM

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arsonal said:
I was mainly referring to the nature of the characters, and I think the seiyuu voices would match them very well if those are indeed correct.

And do you think instead of Iguchi, if it is Asumi or Mizubashi would they match the voice of Haru very well ?

So MAL finally starts locking news threads that are only a few weeks old?

I wonder where was the announcement of this change? Or we are seeing yet another case of changes made that impacted users but not communicated to them?

I wonder how long people would put up with this.

As much as I have a bunch of information to share about anime announced recently I cannot share it in news board, and the anime series is too disorganized and chaotic to share information except with people already interested in the particular series.

Nov 20, 2013 3:35 AM

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