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Jul 11, 2013 10:58 PM

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Hey, guys. Would it be alright to list all the evidence that was presented before the trial in this topic or on a new one? I thought it might be fun for newcomers to speculate and deduce what might have happened during the night of the crime. Of course, for those who already know the answer are not allowed to post about it.
Jul 11, 2013 11:14 PM

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erm, what does the number 11037 mean ? it's some code? i dont get it




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Jul 11, 2013 11:44 PM
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YorozuyaGinSan said:

Maybe his sense of time was warped from reading the LP?
I mean, the first three chapters of it took me a full 5-6 hours personally.

No need to make such a big deal out of things though.


It doesn't really matter. He clearly hasn't played the game, so he should stop acting like he has. When you say that the average episode is going to have 3-4 hours of content crammed into it, that sounds really awful and rushed to someone who hasn't played the game or read the LP. It's basically lying to people and making the adaption seem far worse than it actually is. And if you think this is 'really rushed', you know nothing. Devil Survivor 2 gave the longest and most important chapter in the game a single episode, and 75% of the episode wasn't even stuff that was in the game. There's no way that this show is even going to approach that level of awful pacing.

And if you think about it, 3-4 hours per episodes is 39-52 hours total. Danganronpa shouldn't even take you half of that to beat.
Jul 12, 2013 1:03 AM

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Why Naegi is so idiot? If everyone thinks that he is the killer, why he's scared? If everyone decides that he's the killer they'll die because they're wrong, unless he's the killer.
Jul 12, 2013 1:09 AM

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felipekorbes said:
Why Naegi is so idiot? If everyone thinks that he is the killer, why he's scared? If everyone decides that he's the killer they'll die because they're wrong, unless he's the killer.

Because he will die too if they guess wrong? Of course he'll be scared. Calling out the killer is done by majority vote. If anyone was the idiot, it would be everyone else guessing wrong.
Jul 12, 2013 2:02 AM

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The background noise/voice when they found the body gives me the creeps..
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Jul 12, 2013 4:01 AM

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Pink blood, huh..
Jul 12, 2013 5:40 AM

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Shounen93 said:
Pink blood, huh..

It was done to avoid getting an adult rating in Japan.
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Jul 12, 2013 5:59 AM
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Extremely fast paced episode. All free time event = cut, most of evidences = cut, character interactions = cut. I started to realise that 1-cour for dangan ronpa was just... pretty much impossible.

However, I think it was kinda inevitable. This was the best attempt by staff, regardless of how fast paced it was and how incomplete it was. They decided to cut all the evidence part and introduce them in the trial, but it doesn't really work especially when speculation is one of the most critical part of the series - culprit should be at least vaguely detectable during the evidence collecting phase. This really destroys one of the most fun part of the game - trying to guess who the culprit is.

Anyways, two death already? Well this is where the series really starts!
Jul 12, 2013 6:06 AM

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kaimax said:
Shounen93 said:
Pink blood, huh..

It was done to avoid getting an adult rating in Japan.
http://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/pmwiki.php/Main/BlackBlood


No one will make me believe its not an artistic choice, though, considering it 100% fits the surreal feeling of the setting, to a point that RED blood would break the immersion and atmosphere.
Jul 12, 2013 6:17 AM

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When I say this is the best anime of the year no one believes, and is already one of the best of all time for me, the theme is my favorite, I love the works of Agatha Christie, I love detective games, is a Phoenix Wright mix with Judge, great episode, just did not like the fact that the blood is ... pink, but oh well, this is something that can be considered, the weather was perfect, just missed to highlight some of the characters as the main focus was the protagonist. There should be more time pros viewers investigate the clues of the crime, but it can be analyzed by reviewing the episode again. Looking forward to next week!
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Jul 12, 2013 6:17 AM

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So Sayaka and Junko died... D:
Jul 12, 2013 6:20 AM

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Where the hell are the subs for this show? I've been waiting for about 8 hours now like a total idiot wanting his show to get subbed as much as possible.

This is so disappointing. Ugh.
Jul 12, 2013 6:21 AM

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When the episode started, I too was thinking how faithful it's being adapted, but as soon as investigation kicked in they rushed it and I'm simply giving thumb down for that. 13 episodes simply isn't enough. With this pace the audience won't give a damn about characters when they aren't fleshed out.

Junko telling Naegi that she will fix him some aggressive girlfriend may be non-important thing, but that free time within the game and ability to talk with characters actually gives you better picture of them. And then the deaths actually have an impact. The investigation was simply too watered down as well. They may fleshed out things during the trials but still, this is too quick.

EDIT: The New World Order OST is so badass. My favorite. ^^
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Jul 12, 2013 6:23 AM
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i think theyjust copied from psp. thats why blood is pink?
Jul 12, 2013 6:25 AM
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when u write something at ur back wall . u will know what 11037 mean
Jul 12, 2013 6:28 AM
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Kukucell said:
erm, what does the number 11037 mean ? it's some code? i dont get it




Hope this helps!


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Jul 12, 2013 6:34 AM

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C-C-Combo Breaker!
You might have just said the name. And surname while you're at it.
Jul 12, 2013 6:59 AM

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And I’m impressed again! I am loving this adaptation. Sure, the pacing is fast and the investigation was rushed, but damn, that stylization! It’s so close to the game that I just have to love it - those UI quirks taken straight from the game, like the investigation prompt and even the matching music - and the evidence acquiring, it was just amazing. As well as those character count and "To be continued" screens, they appear at the end of each chapter in the game as well. Loving the original, remixed OST - as well as the OP and ED. Looking forward to the next episode - I’m hoping they saved most of the investigation for the class trial, should make the twists more awesome. And boy, there’s a lot of twists coming. :)
Jul 12, 2013 7:01 AM
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wow, so much clue yet I have not enough motivation to figure how will it work out.
Jul 12, 2013 7:34 AM
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And I’m impressed again! I am loving this adaptation. Sure, the pacing is fast and the investigation was rushed, but damn, that stylization! It’s so close to the game that I just have to love it - those UI quirks taken straight from the game, like the investigation prompt and even the matching music - and the evidence acquiring, it was just amazing. As well as those character count and "To be continued" screens, they appear at the end of each chapter in the game as well. Loving the original, remixed OST - as well as the OP and ED. Looking forward to the next episode - I’m hoping they saved most of the investigation for the class trial, should make the twists more awesome. And boy, there’s a lot of twists coming. :)


ikr! animation is best :D
Jul 12, 2013 7:45 AM

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JJUST REWATCHED THE EPI AND THE NUMBER CAN BE THE NAME OF HER GROUP (PPL TOLD ME ON MAL) YEA BUT IF U READ UPSIDE DOWN (MY BAD ENGLISH) ITS A NAME!!! DASDASDA MAYBE LE KILLER YEYI
And wtf i cant even search dangan ronpa things on net cuz ppll spoil so much abut junko -.- lucky that i didnt read the whole thing i hate spoils
Jul 12, 2013 7:53 AM

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I take it back, this doesn't seem as generic as I thought it was gonna be. But the strawberry milk blood makes everything look silly.
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is it just me or are u guys also curious of the vids the others saw as well would be interessting what the rest watched right
Jul 12, 2013 9:56 AM

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I came Pink Blood. And it was quite extremely pleasurable if I may say so.
Jul 12, 2013 10:02 AM
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Jaz as what the spoilers said.
Jul 12, 2013 10:46 AM

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So the fans spoiled correctly.. and the two cutest girls gone?!? Lost quite a bit of interest now..
So MAL finally starts locking news threads that are only a few weeks old?

I wonder where was the announcement of this change? Or we are seeing yet another case of changes made that impacted users but not communicated to them?

I wonder how long people would put up with this.

As much as I have a bunch of information to share about anime announced recently I cannot share it in news board, and the anime series is too disorganized and chaotic to share information except with people already interested in the particular series.
Jul 12, 2013 11:21 AM

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Kasegawa said:
FastWheels said:
Kukucell said:
erm, what does the number 11037 mean ? it's some code? i dont get it




Hope this helps!


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Jul 12, 2013 11:26 AM

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symbv said:
So the fans spoiled correctly.. and the two cutest girls gone?!? Lost quite a bit of interest now..

>Two cutest girls

Nah. Worst DR girls deserved to leave the stage first.

I'm only gaining more and more interest now!
Jul 12, 2013 11:49 AM

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This is a really good anime, but seriously why isn't the blood RED?
Jul 12, 2013 11:55 AM
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aww thanks for painting the blood pink. can air it saturday mornings


well i didnt expect that. thought she commited suicide at first but i guess that wasnt it.



that model girl :( honestly see her and whats her name dead considering they are probably better off D: cant see anything good for the winner
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Jul 12, 2013 11:56 AM
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This is a really good anime, but seriously why isn't the blood RED?


The game changed the blood to pink to prevent it from getting the equivalent of an Adults Only rating.
Jul 12, 2013 11:57 AM

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hikitani said:
This is a really good anime, but seriously why isn't the blood RED?


Because everyone is way too fabulous to have mundane, boring, red blood.
Jul 12, 2013 11:58 AM

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Quick thoughts after watching it subbed:

- I noticed they cut a lot of dialogue, but I have hope for it to be improved later on. Why? Well, these ARE the starting episodes, so they have to explain shit and all that. Since there'll be lots of extra time since all the rules and stuff are already explained, that means we probably get more character interactions/development.

- Investigation was cut short, but at the same time who wants to see 10 minutes worth of just.. examining stuff? And talking about it? I think it'll get its time to shine in the trial anyways.

- I'm glad they foreshadowed a bit of depth for one of the characters that will be more noted late into the show. I won't say who though.

- The entire time that Junko was arguing with Monobear, I was just screaming in my head 'stop stop stop stop stop youre going to die please baby stop' and.... yeah.

- More QUALITY animation.
Jul 12, 2013 11:59 AM
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That Monobear...so annoying D: if she died in the bathroom, doesn't that mean someone who knew the trick to open Naegi's bathroom door? Unless they didn't kill her in the bathroom...meh I'm too lazy to figure this out, and I probably couldn't anyways. Looking forward to the trial next week. Seems like only one person believes him.
Jul 12, 2013 12:03 PM

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Pretty awesome that their following the game's story faithfull so far. Now let us see who is the culprit!

Let the excecutions begin!
Jul 12, 2013 12:07 PM

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What I like about this is that they present the evidence, then the trial comes in the next episode. It gives the viewer a chance to figure out the culprit, just like in the game.

So, show off dem detective skills! The evidences are shown to you, you just need to connect the fragments of Chaos. :)

One little tip : Examine everything closely...

Also, what just sucks is that they just showed the evidence. No details. If any one wants some details on the evidences shown, just say it. :)
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That Monobear...so annoying D: if she died in the bathroom, doesn't that mean someone who knew the trick to open Naegi's bathroom door? Unless they didn't kill her in the bathroom...meh I'm too lazy to figure this out, and I probably couldn't anyways. Looking forward to the trial next week. Seems like only one person believes him.


actually if you go back and look, you will see the doorknob is broken so it looks like a forced entry. its actually pretty important evidence which now looking at it i am a bit surprised they didnt mention. well im sure it will be brought up in the trial
Jul 12, 2013 12:19 PM

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CENSORED BLOOD AND WOUNDS?! WHAT THE HELL WERE THEY THINKING????!!!!!!


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Jul 12, 2013 12:23 PM

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CENSORED BLOOD AND WOUNDS?! WHAT THE HELL WERE THEY THINKING????!!!!!!


Quit bitching, at least it's not covered up with black or white shadows/rays.
Jul 12, 2013 12:31 PM

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symbv said:
So the fans spoiled correctly.. and the two cutest girls gone?!?


Nope, Sakura is the CUTEST GIRL EVAH. lol

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actually if you go back and look, you will see the doorknob is broken so it looks like a forced entry.l


You pretty much said it yourself, there's no need for the production team to "tell" you guys, you just need to see it for yourself.

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Jul 12, 2013 12:35 PM

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BigDB64 said:
actually if you go back and look, you will see the doorknob is broken so it looks like a forced entry.l


You pretty much said it yourself, there's no need for the production team to "tell" you guys, you just need to see it for yourself.
Which honestly gives the anime the potential to be better than the game, at least for the trials, i think this will tell the plot excellently but it will neglect the character's aside from the group that survives really late. Like it'd of been nice if they can just slip in some abridged versions of free time events into the dialogue

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Jizzy, I know you have no idea how to argue for shit,

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Jizzy as you would call yourself because youre a dick The most butthurt award goes to you And clearly you havent watched that many shows thats why you cant determine if a show is unique or not Or maybe you're just a child who likes common stuffs where hero saves the day and guys gets all the girls. Sad taste you have there kid you came up to me in the first place making you look more like a kid who got slapped without me even knowing it and start crying about it to me

Jul 12, 2013 12:41 PM

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Wow, they killed off two people already. I'm stumped on who the killer is.
Jul 12, 2013 12:42 PM

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This reminds me a lot of dead man wonderland. I didn't trust the first girl that died maybe she's not actually dead. cant wait for the next episode when the trial takes place.
Jul 12, 2013 12:44 PM

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Well, that felt rushed.

Wtf, didn't expect the idol to die immediately. >_> Also model girl..

Errr.... Pink blood? What the fuck? Is this murder mystery series trying to be cute with pink blood?!! ._.

Well, I seriously have no idea who killed Sayaka. I'm thinking the glasses guy did it but that would be too predictable.

Anyways, Kyoko best girl.
Jul 12, 2013 12:46 PM

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finally could watch it subbed.
so this episode was definitely better than the first one, since it didn't feel so rushed. kind of sad the investigation went so fast but if the trials are longer instead i don't mind.
and they kept the blood pink, hell yea.
Jul 12, 2013 12:47 PM

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Errr.... Pink blood? What the fuck? Is this murder mystery series trying to be cute with pink blood?!! ._.


This has literally been said over and over again.

The pink blood gives the entire game a more surreal feeling. It's original intention was so that it wouldnt be rated as an adult only game, but it also gives off the whole exaggerated feel that Danganronpa is most known for.

You have the choice between them actually fucking showing the blood, or it being stupidly blacked out.
Jul 12, 2013 12:48 PM

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Why Naegi is so idiot? If everyone thinks that he is the killer, why he's scared? If everyone decides that he's the killer they'll die because they're wrong, unless he's the killer.


if they vote for naegi and he's innocent everyone (including naegi) will be executed besides the real culprit.
Jul 12, 2013 12:52 PM

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Main character voiced by same seiyuu that does Shinji from evengelion = instantly makes him unlikable.

I hope he dies in the end.
Jul 12, 2013 12:54 PM

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Am I the only one who is seeing the blood pink because of gore restriction? lol
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