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| In his cockpit of Striker, dead Kugel waits dreaming. |
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Irenesharda said: Fai said: Irenesharda said: Darklight0303 said: Feer19 said: my question how long has been dead the general,i mean his head felt down wich mean bones were dehydrated if i remember bones took 40 -50 years to be like that if im wrong edit:It takes one year to the corpse to be bones ,and position of the body made felt down the head,anyways we cant se how much dehydrated the body This is a good point. Something tells me Chamber might have lied about how much time has passed. That corpse was not 6 months old. Actually, it makes sense. A corpse even under the best conditions will probably take about a year to become practically a skeleton, maybe a little longer in a sterile environment. Red has been on Earth for about a year, so he and Kugel probably arrived on time but Kugel died either before arrival or on impact. In an airtight environment his body kept it's shape, but with exposure to air, it became what it should have looked like. Except not. It takes around 50 years for a body to become skeleton. If you dug out a year old grave it would still be "a bit" meaty" - even when factoring in the bacteria and bugs. Umm, it doesn't take that long. Even Feer19 edited her answer. If I was to factor in bugs, elements, and animals, that body wouldn't have even lasted a year. Maybe you're referring to embalmed or mummified bodies? An even then, those are under certain conditions. You could also be referring to decomp in a coffin, with the embalming procedures done, which slows the process considerably. And also that's taking into account how dry you want your bones. For a small article on it, try here: http://www.wereyouwondering.com/how-long-does-it-take-for-a-body-to-decompose I'm kinda late for this since i just watched the episode, but i may want to add to this. I may not be a expert in science, but didn't the commander and Ledo crash land on earth because of the Lamorak's Telemothy Swing, which could have been turned into WORMHOLE. If i remember correctly, don't wormholes bend space and TIME. The commander could have died before he entered wormhole or during the wormhole. My theories are that enough time had been twisted in the wormhole for the commander to be decomposed. So when he crashed on earth, striker was just keeping the body (already dead) stable until the latch was open. Another theory involving the wormhole is that the commander could have crashed on earth many years before ledo. Striker could have been on standby regaining energy for all those years. Striker then could have been re-awakened when Chamber sent the distress signal. I didn't see anyone mention this the thread (or i missed it somewhere in the 16 pages). As I mentioned, I'm no expert in space/wormhole/black hole science, but i do know wormholes bend time. So if there are reasonable errors that's why. Or this could all be debunked if it was ever stated that the commander and Ledo arrived on earth around the same period of time... If it was mentioned, i couldn't remember. another way to debunk this is the assumption i give that the Lamorak's Telemothy Swing has similar properties as black holes or wormholes.... not sure if this was stated either. In the end, these are my theories. |
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| Kugel's profile on this site is incomplete, I'm still trying to wrap my mind around what happened to him. I haven't watched episode 13 yet. The fake 'disease' and people wondering why Ledo wasn't dust at the end of the episode 1. >> |
| Lol... so I was right after all.. The commander is already dead.. but his body when Ledo open the cockpit.... o.o |
| Wow good thing I didn't read the discussion for ep 11, I was actually surprised by the fact that the colonel was dead. An awesome episode nonetheless, although it'll be sad to see it end tomorrow! |
| Deus ex machina? Lol, same thing as in Psycho Pass. |
Misiakk said: Deus ex machina? Lol, same thing as in Psycho Pass. deus ex machina - a "divine intervention" plot device out of nowhere. chekov's gun - a plot device that has been consistently foreshadowed and properly set up in advance. learn your terms people. |
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| So he was dead all this time right? Damn that is freaky what Striker has done and potentially what Chamber can do. |
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| Hes dead as predicted! |
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| So Kugel is dead and Striker is the one giving the commands. Quite scary that the number one enemy at the moment is one of Chamber's counterparts. |
| Finally got around to watching these. Literally couldn't stop laughing throughout the ep. I think it passed the so bad it's good line. |
Kellhus said: GuusWayne said: there is a limit to the suspension of disbelief And it's the fan that did it. Not the smoking porn reading rubik cube genius rape ape with a magic boat. |
| Awesome episode. I kinda figured Kugel was already dead (or worse). Looks like the story wont have time to sort out the alliance vs hideauze thing. Kinda reminds me of other Urobuchi stories which end and are incomplete. |
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| So he was dead afterall! Damn well that's an AI for you wanting everything perfect! Well lets see what the last episode has to offer! |
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| How did you all manage to figure out this would happen? Was it that obvious? Because I had no clue. |
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| Prediction about the commander confirmed. It didn't make me enjoy this show any less.. Badass pirate is badass. Epic episode. I loved the battle and I look forward to the final episode! |
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| Wow... Ledo always gets revelations in the worst ways possible... Kugel's head falling off must've destroyed a little more of his mind. It's like watching him die a second time. MusashiRose said: I agree. Even though it was predictable, there's not really much paths they could've taken at this point... it really doesn't bother me, since this series is all about Ledo learning the harsh realities of his life and learning to enjoy the better things in it.Prediction about the commander confirmed. It didn't make me enjoy this show any less.. Badass pirate is badass. Epic episode. I loved the battle and I look forward to the final episode! As for the battle I didn't think it was amazing, but it would be retarded to me if this series went Gurren Lagann on our asses, with random ass attacks that make no sense. |
| This was an awesome episode imo. So he was indeed dead. A bit too predictable, but it was still a pretty nice move. Not much of a big battle (yet), but I didn't really have a problem with it either. I really hope Ledo won't have to sacrifice himself in the end, though I kind of don't see that happening. Wonder what that key hides o_O When I first saw it I thought it was either symbolical or just some commanding key for some stuff on Gargantia. I guess it's gonna be some ancient technology that they once scavenged, that was meant as a last resort. I can't wait to see it :D |
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| Kugel was dead the whole time. It was Striker who was impersonating him. That just wrong. I cringed when Kugel 's body started to decompose? That was decomposing right? Anyway shit hit the fan and I'm excited to watch the next episode. I have no what could happen. Great episode! |
| Well I can say I saw this coming from a mile away One thing that puzzles me why is this robot trying to "help" humans maybe because thats what he was programed to do since his pilot is dead it's on auto pilot interesting anime so far pretty dam good as well |
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| Wow this fleet is full of sick fuck illuminati. ohhh.... so apparently the colonel wasnt alive... it was obvious there was something kinky with him not showing his face because of some "disease" |
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| That pirate woman is a lot more enjoyable this time around. And I liked Pinion from the beginning, but my opinion of him as almost steadily increased throughout the show. Will be interesting to see how this ends. |
| "Therefore do not worry about tomorrow, for tomorrow will worry about itself. Each day has enough trouble of its own." Matthew 6:34 |
| Ledo was able to open the cockpit, so it's not beyond reason that he can also deactivate it. Why would Striker allow him opening it if he can prevent it? Rackage's role is still not clear. Why would they keep her around and not make her "join" the cult? Melty i get, she's not important and Pinion/Flange are in charge of her anyways, so they can always do it later when the terms of joining are finalized. Rackage on the other hand.. Not that it would have helped, but to not even try? About the sacrificies: Religious cults often have sacrifices for various reasons. In this case though, both being considered weak (remember, the GA kills people that are considered weak, and Striker controls the cult) as well as avoiding overpopulation might also have played a role in it. About Kugel: he must have been dead quite some time. Probably not directly as a result of the battle with the Hideauze, as both Striker and Kugel don't show any signs of battle, but has probably to do with how he arrived on Earth in the first place. |
| Well.. he was in there for a reason I suppose. Still, made me a bit angry at myself for not finishing up this anime faster, the end episodes are well worth it. |
| Damn amazing episode! Can't wait to see the finale! |
| damn... this anime getting darker and darker... really like it... |
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| That was epic, I love all out war! I actually like what they are fighting for. Basically there is no reason to colonize something that has its own culture already, you're not doing the homeland people any favors. They also dumped the bodies of the weak like in the empire. Which let Ledo realize that he no longer supports them. |
| I knew it was going to be something crazy like the commander wasn't really in there or was dead or something, but still that was so creepy and weird. Why is that robot doing that? |
| When he opened that mech I knew that Kugel would be dead already and it was Striker all along. I did not assume so before this episode though, well played. |
| i knew it was weird that Kugel wouldn't leave the cockpit, saying something about an endemic when Ledo was just fine after leaving Chamber's cockpit when he first arrived. the AI wanted more power, now makes me wonder if Avalon was run by machines instead of humans.... |
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