What is the worth of Samurai Champloo?
It is made of excellence and deserves to be on our Enlightenment list.
39.1%
9
It is too unremarkable to be on either of our lists.
47.8%
11
It is vastly overrated and deserves to be on our Relations list.
13.0%
3
23 votes
| Samurai Champloo is now up for vote. Decide if it wiill it find the samurai who smells of sunflowers enlightenment or wander aimlessly in the pits of our Relations list. Please remember that with the new voting system ONLY YOUR WRITTEN RESPONSE WILL BE COUNTED. Be sure to clearly state which option you chose at the top of your post or else your vote will not be counted. You must also provide a brief explanation for why you chose the answer you did. PLEASE DO NOT VOTE IF YOU HAVE NOT SEEN THE ENTIRE SERIES. This poll will close in 7 days. BEGIN! |
Ducat_RevelApr 14, 2013 4:34 PM
| 2. It's a fun watch, but that is all. |
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| Voted 2. Poor story and plot, but nice characters and appealing artwork/ost. I guess you always need one anime of this kind in your Watching list, but in the end i really have no idea how a typical Samurai/vagrant "story" could be enlightening. I do not even understand how it went through the purgatory to be honest. Just another good anime. |
| My list - "Let's share our lame sides" (Danshi Koukousei no Nichijou) |
| Option 2. It is quite stylish, but I would not say enlightening. I truly enjoy the series, but it is not necessarily a "must watch" series by any means. |
| Like others are saying, it was fun. It had some truly spectacular action sequences and no small amount of style, but it short of fell flat when it came to story and character. The episodes were a bit hit and miss too, with some being quite exceptional and others tough to get through. It's definitely not "enlightening" but it's nowhere near bad enough, or overrated enough for that matter, to go on the relations list. |
| Option 2. No. No. Just no. I would vote option 3, but then this has exasperated me deeply; so much that I can't even hate it. Definitely unremarkable. |
| Option 3. It's sitting pretty in MAL's top 100, and whenever someone makes a "BEST ANIME OF ALL TIME!!!!!" list, I generally see it there too. The show is tremendously overhyped, when it was just meant to be a simple action series. The fans have run wild with it, and showered it in a parade of 'perfection' all across the board. Over half of all users who watched it gave it a 9 or 10. I bring all this up because in truth, it's not bad. It was a decent show. But it is vastly overrated, and that is the definition of option 3. |
| @ForgoneReality Fine. I'm sold. Change my vote to Option 3. Though unlike you, I actually think this show is bad. Made me cringe. |
| It is made of excellence and deserves to be on our Enlightenment list. (This will mostly be a rehash of my Enlightenment thread posts) The few, the brave, the proud ;P. In my opinion, I find Samurai Champloo generally trumps its hugely successful predecessor in almost every respect story wise. As with Watanabe's other more mainstream (in the sense of availability and broadcasting) works, Champloo is a very straightforward and simple story, brought to life by a series of diverse characters, unique anachronisms, uncommon historic subject matter and a nice mix of episodic and overarching plot structures. The characters, while somewhat simple in their traits, have small subtleties throughout the series that veers them out of the mold while maintaining their relative structures, making great use of nuanced archetypes and solidifying what would seem to be an otherwise lethal dynamic between them into something reasonable and mature, going for the tolerance and bizarre camaraderie as opposed to congealing and connecting on warming, personal levels. I also prefer the backstories of the Champloo characters more, straying from the more typical and basic pasts of the Bebop cast. Mugen for example, was an orphan from a penal colony who had been resorting to piracy to go about living-more for circumstance and convenience, eventually planned to be executed after a prison sentence but managing to escape the island and start anew (from what I recall). I also found the actual contents of his backstory episodes--while not as dark and climactic as Bebops, as to be expected--more intricate and entertaining while providing its own personal brand of gravity and atmosphere different from Bebop's. Jin on the other hand, had what was initially a more typical and dark backstory with |
AngelsArcanumApr 9, 2013 4:58 PM
| @Angels - That's an impressive retort if nothing else. I disagree with about half of it (way too many details to say each one), but I can at least see why you have your stance. I still hold that the ending to Champloo was a huge turnoff But whatever, from the course of this thread it seems that we're both a bit on the outskirts. |
ForgoneReality said: @Angels - That's an impressive retort if nothing else. I disagree with about half of it (way too many details to say each one), but I can at least see why you have your stance. I still hold that the ending to Champloo was a huge turnoff But whatever, from the course of this thread it seems that we're both a bit on the outskirts. That's understandable, I find that Faye's story stood out pretty well amongst the others with Spike's triad business and Jet's old cop days. I loved when Faye found those tapes of herself back in the 2000s and seeing her wonderful family life which is just a lost cause at this point, it was bittersweet and touching and I really liked it. |
| I'm not entirely sure how to vote on this one. On one hand, I would recommend it to anyone because it's VERY enjoyable and well done. But on the other it did have episodes where it fell flat and the ending was a pretty big dissapointment. Ah whatever. I will white knight Angels Utena-style. TAKE MY REVOLUTION!! I vote option 1. It was an enjoyable samurai hip hop romp and honestly, we have plenty of stuff on the list that is nothing more than purely enjoyable and entertaining or visually appealing. Why not add Champloo as well. |
| To make things more interesting, I will also cast a vote for the 1st option. Though, to be completely honest, my vote would go to the imaginary option between the first and the second, since I don't think it's either a glorious nor an unremarkable show. The ending and how things unfolded may be a turnoff, but overall, the style, that urban hip-hop feel you get from the show, even though it's about samurai, are quite unique and well-though-out in a way. Also, when I watched it a couple of years ago, I was amazed by the fact that the whole hip-hop OST and atmosphere didn't bother me, even though it's one of the subcultures I least fancy. |
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| I'd say Option 2... But Nujabes Ost boosts it to option 1 personally. |
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| Let me fix my vote: Option 3. I just finished this thing yesterday. The incredibly unbelievable tonal shifts were crazy to look at. Sure the graffiti and hip-hop was alright, in fact, I welcomed that side of Champloo, but the episodes that are just there for the heck of it (the zombie episode and the baseball episode) are really bizarre and aren't even entertaining. I laughed, yeah, but for all the wrong reasons. Champloo looks like a series that didn't know whether to be serious or funny, and whenever is screws up with a bad episode, it laughs at itself and tries to make its poor episode an ironic joke. But even if it chose a side, the most it'd get from me is option 2. It's just entertainment on one end, and the over-arching plot is average on the other. |
| I found the baseball episode pretty funny personally but I will agree Cosmic Collisions is just wayyy out there. |
| Option 2, a good anime but that's it. |
Amberleh said: I'm not entirely sure how to vote on this one. On one hand, I would recommend it to anyone because it's VERY enjoyable and well done. But on the other it did have episodes where it fell flat and the ending was a pretty big dissapointment. Ah whatever. I will white knight Angels Utena-style. TAKE MY REVOLUTION!! I vote option 1. It was an enjoyable samurai hip hop romp and honestly, we have plenty of stuff on the list that is nothing more than purely enjoyable and entertaining or visually appealing. Why not add Champloo as well. I'm flattered; think you can |
| Option 1 I don't think every anime need an ultimate aim to be good or is it wrong to enjoying a anime who doesn't take itself seriously(we have black lagoon in enlightenment).It has some of the best fights,while Characters never feel real they have different personalities and it has somewhat social commentery of that time.PLUS IT HAS MUGEN. |
| I agree with Corwin, but my vote goes to Option 2. I liked the music, the style and Mugen and Jin were decent characters. But that's about all I liked. The rest was average to bad. It is very entertaining though but this list is an objective one and therefore it does not deserve to be added, in my opinion. |
HaakonwaleApr 12, 2013 7:01 AM
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| 2; Lots of style, but average level of substance. |
corwin_r said: To make things more interesting, I will also cast a vote for the 1st option. Though, to be completely honest, my vote would go to the imaginary option between the first and the second, since I don't think it's either a glorious nor an unremarkable show. I feel the same. I honestly think that this series floats somewhere inbetween option 1 and 2, but I'm making my definitive answer option 1. Samurai Champloo is a series that I would recommend to anyone. It's not without flaws--some episodes early on (Redeye Reprisal) and later on (zombies ep) are dull and unremarkable, but the series shines because of character depth, the skillful blending of anachronisms and other seemingly unrelated things, vibrant and smooth animation, and a soundtrack that perfectly compliments each scene and builds the mood that that's being conveyed. |
| Option 2: Although I loved the story and characters, this is an Edo Period version of Cowboy Bebop. It's too much like CB to be considered original, but I sure loved the baseball game episode. It's neither Enlightened nor Relations material. |
| This poll has drawn to a close. Samurai Champloo is deemed Unremarkable with a total of 15 votes: 6 for enlightening, 7 for unremarkable, and 2 for relations. Thank you for voting. |
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