What is the worth of Wolf's Rain?
It is made of excellence and deserves to be on our Enlightenment list.
55.6%
5
It is too unremarkable to be on either of our lists.
33.3%
3
It is vastly overrated and deserves to be on our Relations list.
11.1%
1
9 votes
| Wolf's Rain has been in list purgatory for quite a while now and so it is finally going to get the chance to be either cast into the great light that is our Enlightenment list or be doomed to the depths of Relations hell. Please remember that with the new voting system ONLY YOUR WRITTEN RESPONSE WILL BE COUNTED. Be sure to clearly state which option you chose at the top of your post or else your vote will not be counted. You must also provide a brief explanation for why you chose the answer you did. PLEASE DO NOT VOTE IF YOU HAVE NOT SEEN THE ENTIRE SERIES. This poll will close in 4 days. BEGIN! |
AlabastreAizoApr 7, 2013 10:06 PM
| It is made of excellence and deserves to be on our Enlightenment list. (your vote) Wolf's Rain is a beautiful dark fantasy action shoujo. While it's very basic plot may not be original, it explores emotions and the value of life in an interesting and entertaining way. It also The art and music are both superb and absolutely gorgeous. The series never breaks it's tone with useless comedy or random fanservice but instead stays true to itself all the way through. While it is tragic, the tragedy never feels absurd or over-done - It always adds something to the show. |
AmberlehMar 29, 2013 3:55 AM
| Oh! Shoot! This is now? I'm not too sure I can marathon all of this under 4 days. I'll try though. I'll edit this post with my verdict if and when I finish the series. |
| Oh I'm sorry! All of our polls were closed so I thought we needed to open new ones D= If it helps, Hulu has Wolf's Rain. |
| It's alright Amber. I'll just put Diebuster on hold and rip through this anime. It's been on my mind for a while (since I always wanted to know why JesuOtaku loved it so) so I guess you've just pushed me to go through with watching it now. |
Ducat_Revel said: It's alright Amber. I'll just put Diebuster on hold and rip through this anime. It's been on my mind for a while (since I always wanted to know why JesuOtaku loved it so) so I guess you've just pushed me to go through with watching it now. Alright then =D Oh and one thing- After you finish the 'series' make sure you watch the OVA. I'm not sure what happened but for whatever reason the last 4 episodes didn't make it into the actual TV series so the OVA is the last few episodes. |
| I know the back story for that. There was a major viral outbreak, SARS or something. It forced the production team to just repeat (or recap) 4 episodes of Wolf's Rain. Thus the last four were booted out of the original run. (Correct me if I'm wrong though). |
Ducat_Revel said: Oh! Shoot! This is now? I'm not too sure I can marathon all of this under 4 days. I'll try though. I'll edit this post with my verdict if and when I finish the series. Actually, I don't know that Wolf's Rain is a very marathonable show. It can get kind of dense at times. And you are right about the SARS thing, it his Studio Bones and screwed up their releases. I voted for enlightenment as well, and will clarify my reasoning at a later time. |
ForgoneReality said: Actually, I don't know that Wolf's Rain is a very marathonable show. Lies! Just kidding. I'm alternating it with GITS: SAC so one doesn't get too heavy. It'll be easy for me as long my current addiction doesn't derail my attention too much. I just really want to finish this! It looks like something I'd like. |
| I'm re-watching it now, which I've been meaning to do for a while. Goddamn. This music. This atmosphere. The art and animation. All of it is beyond superb. I often just find myself gawking at the backgrounds. I also need to acquire this soundtrack. The dialogue is a LITTLE cheesy, but that's alright. I'm going to go ahead and blame the dub. They just don't make stuff like this anymore. |
| "It is made of excellence and deserves to be on our Enlightenment list." I finally got through watching the entire series a couple weeks ago after giving up the first 2 times, and as my tastes have refined with time, I came to enjoy Wolf's Rain a LOT more than I did a couple years ago. I really loved the atmosphere, the production values, characters-heck I loved a lot of things about the series. It is a solemn yet peculiarly uplifting odyssey that uses a rather minimalist narrative and requires you to pay attention to a lot of subtleties in minute bits of dialogue or action to fully enjoy it as the actual events within an episode at face value seem a bit insubstantial and few, but yet it is so compelling. I particularly love the little character study that encompasses the series and the distinct contrast in personalities and dialogue between the humans and the wolves. The wolves at face value appear to be somewhat unlikable and have different problems with their own individual social skills, but the empathy between them being abhorred by humans and unable to properly communicate with them as both a byproduct of their actions (whether intentional or misinterpreted) mannerisms and myths surrounding them, as well as their innate kinship attachment is fascinating. As the series progresses there is great character development that gradually helps them blossom out of their archetypes and into wholesome and even 'human' characters. Heck, I hated Tsume right off the bat, but he became a much more caring, noble and generally likable person by the end, and turned out to be one of my favourite characters of the series. The Cherr and Hubb plot thread held on its own well, and as aforementioned, was a great complement to the wolves' story; their dialogue was mild and heartfelt, their reactions-nuanced and not overbearing and their problems-realistic and sympathetic. Truth be told, aside from them not getting to Paradise at the end of the first 26 episodes, I'd say I would've enjoyed that ending better, had they ACTUALLY found Paradise there together because Darcia was sidelined for most of the middle portion, so I figured he had given up antagonizing the wolves, so he felt tacked on as he re-emerged as the villain in the ending OVA, but thankfully their was purpose and logic supporting this decision. My only gripes with the series were the recaps (that's kind of a given), the still minor plot points can sometimes be a hindrance and the OVAs drew out the deaths too long and it got pretty absurd and melodramatic. Aside from that, I thoroughly enjoyed the series, and it was a refreshing change from the typical shows as of late. On the matter of the ending though, I'm still a little foggy on it. I know HOW it happened, but like RahXephon, the details pertaining to the resolutions are subtle and need to be pieced together. Now I'll try to explain my confusion within this spoiler section: |
AngelsArcanumMar 29, 2013 2:21 PM
I assumed that was the message which seems a little underwhelming and a tad pessimistic considering the tragedy of the journey, and |
| I'll let you know what I think when I'm finished rewatching it. =D On another note- It's always fun to see that people still aren't reading the rules. I bet the people who voted 'relations' and 'unremarkable' have never even seen it. |
Amberleh said: I'll let you know what I think when I'm finished rewatching it. =D On another note- It's always fun to see that people still aren't reading the rules. I bet the people who voted 'relations' and 'unremarkable' have never even seen it. Gotcha. As for the people who took the other routes, I'm a little surprised seeing how this is a club for those who take pride in well supported critiquing of the medium, and here they are going: "lol dis iz stoopid" and refraining from validating their arguments. *sigh* |
| this is one of maybe 3 titles i've set aside for a rainy day when i've lost all hope for anime... |
| Ooo, what a lovely tea party. |
| So, three episodes in, it seems good to me. Similar feeling to Xam'd. I didn't particularly like Xam'd, but it definitely started out strong, and overall it was decent. I can't vote yet, but hopefully I'll be able to finish it before the poll's over. Oh, and I have to laugh at Hulu telling me if I like Wolf's Rain, I might like Sword Art Online. |
PopkaMar 30, 2013 11:31 PM
Popka said: So, three episodes in, it seems good to me. Similar feeling to Xam'd. I didn't particularly like Xam'd, but it definitely started out strong, and overall it was decent. I can't vote yet, but hopefully I'll be able to finish it before the poll's over. Oh, and I have to laugh at Hulu telling me if I like Wolf's Rain, I might like Sword Art Online. Hulu seems to favor genres over demographics, but I guess demographics wouldn't be something built into it. |
| Option 2 for me. I'll start with what I liked about this show. The dub is amazing. Crispin Freeman outdoes everyone else including Blum, Bosch, and McGlynn even though they delivered top class voice acting. There was just no way I could watch the sub with a dub this good. Next, the music was fantastic. Yoko Kanno never disappoints. Plus, "Heaven's not enough" is now one of my favorite Conte songs, second only to "Call me, Call me." There were some scenes when the strings were a bit too strong and made the scene a bit cheesier than it should've been, but that was forgivable. Lastly, the animation is great to look at. The landscapes were gorgeous. Bones really put their best foot forward when they made this. But all those were pulled down by the characters and the ending. Most of the wolves didn't develop with the exception of Tsume (even though he'd still be a jerk from time to time). Hige's twist near the end was poorly set-up and I honestly did not see any point in it. And Darcia who begun as a really good "tortured soul" took an odd 180° and turned into an annoying villain with absurd motives. The ending looked like it was forcefully contorted to fit the religious themes of the story, which did strengthen the themes, but at the expense of a far better ending. I won't delve deeper in this as it is the ending and I wouldn't want to spoil what happens. It's a good show with a couple of problems, but I don't think it's enlightenment worthy. Steve Conte and Yoko Kanno on the other hand are enlightenment worthy. |
Ducat_RevelApr 2, 2013 11:02 AM
| I'd like to argue that I think the other wolves do undergo changes by the end, but they are somewhat subtle changes rather than huge paradigm shifts. Kiba has always been more of a mature character who still has his faults, but his development lies in his convictions being tested and reaffirmed by the tribulations brought forth by the plot as a very literal product of a character driven story; he starts out a bit anti-social, irrational and self-absorbed in his goals all the while being a prophet and leader to the pack. But as he overcomes more challenges together with the other wolves, he begins to branch out of his conceited prose and into a more self-assured and empathetic leader who values his comrades more as individuals rather than companions. Tsume we've pretty much established. Hige is the down to earth person who is probably the most level headed and rational of the group, but As aforementioned, I still find that the OVA was somewhat weak, so I agree that it lacks a bit of the impact and urgency of the TV series ending, but it was still good. I perfectly understand how you wouldn't really like the characters and the development undergone though. |
| So far I count 3 for enlightenment and one for nothing. |
Amberleh said: So far I count 3 for enlightenment and one for nothing. When do the Wolf's Rain and Texhnolyze polls come to an end? |
| I can go ahead and end it now, I'm not sure if anyone else plans to watch it and then vote. I'll at least leave it open the rest of the day to get some responses from people. |
| After watching it, I'll go with option 1. It's not easy to present things indirectly, but I think Wolf's Rain does a good job of it. I liked the characters well enough, and while I more or less agree with Ducat on their development, I do think the way they operated served well to convey things by showing them rather than telling them. |
| Wolf's Rain is one of the greatest anime of all time, everything about it triple A quality and it is long overdue for a spot on the list. The themes it portrays and the way it portrays them are so far above the usual for a usually juvenile oriented medium, like Revgirl Utena it can seem overwhelming in its presentation, but I believe that to be a testament to its intelligent story. ...I guess I like it is all As for the discussion on the ending I have to add |
mrmook9000Apr 3, 2013 9:03 PM
| This poll has reached its end. Thank you for voting. |
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