Forum SettingsEpisode Information
Forums
New
What did you think of this episode?
DO NOT discuss the source material beyond this episode. If you want to discuss future events or theories, please use separate threads.
DO NOT ask where to watch/download this episode or give links to copyrighted, non-fair use material.
DO NOT troll/bait/harass/abuse other users for liking or disliking the series/characters.
DO read the Anime Discussion Rules and Site & Forum Guidelines.
Pages (10) « First ... « 8 9 [10]
Jul 29, 2016 2:13 PM

Offline
Jun 2016
903
Rin's mother death, another tragedy for Kariya.
Sep 7, 2016 2:50 AM

Offline
Jun 2016
568
I chuckled so hard when Gil said "Hmph. That was terrible piece of cheap drama, but not so bad for your first playwriting attempt." Cheap drama it was, indeed. It felt meta, like the author was reproaching himself. I've noticed Gil do this a couple of other times too, which is what I like the most about his character. We share most of the contempt toward one-dimensional characters. Also, it's actually quite enjoyable watching Kirei give in to the Dark Side.
Oct 23, 2016 12:47 PM

Offline
Mar 2010
55501
Well shit went out of hand, A bit over the top. But it was enjoyable, I"m guessing saber knew it was a setup after unleashing her attack.

Behold of my awesomeness~
controversial and/or sensitive topics likely devolve into the same repetitive, derogatory, abusive, and harassing comments can no longer be posted.
But my feels.
Dec 17, 2016 7:29 AM

Offline
Jul 2009
3344
Wow what a bastard Kirei is. So that's how Tohsaka's parents died. It'll be interesting to see how she reacts in UBW.

Saber in motorcycle is just badass!!!!

I'm going to finish this asap! Can't wait for the next one!
Aug 16, 2017 11:42 AM

Offline
Dec 2015
311
poor rin lost her father and mother and practically her sister too :(
Jan 30, 2018 7:57 AM

Offline
Jan 2016
39
I'm really glad the Kariya killed that bish Aoi, at 1st I thought she was a decent woman but I'm wrong.
She just threw her other Daughter like it was nothing, she doesn't value life at all and doesn't value love at all so it was really hypocrite for her to tell Kariya that he never loved anyone while in fact Kariya's only concern was her happiness with her 2 daughters(That's his goal from the start to bring Sakura back to her) but she failed to realized the compassion of Kariya towards her and her daughters, she was nothing but a puppet of Tokiomi.
Hell she didn't even bother to care when she saw Kariya's horrible look because of his mission to bring back her other Daughter to her and she didn't even bother to thank Kariya for saving her other idiot daughter and their Family looks rich but don't bother to put someone that will take care of Rin after school, no bodyguards at all. Talk about love. Haha
Nov 4, 2018 7:52 AM

Offline
Feb 2015
1080
I knew Rider didn't kill Maiya, it just didn't seem like him... or Waver even.

Shinji's dad is just as wimpy as Shinji himself... awesome.

Poor Rin though...
Nov 11, 2018 8:53 AM

Offline
Jul 2017
1754
donutsu said:
I have never liked Gilgamesh in f/sn and I saw a lot good comments about him f/z.. guess he's still a sadist bastard that only enjoys seeking entertainment
that's what makes him great. well I guess we have different tastes in animes cause my favourite characters are almost alwais the antagonists
Dec 9, 2018 12:52 PM

Offline
Oct 2013
156
LostHanyou said:
The scene with Kariya-Aoi was my favorite part in the LN. I didn't like it so much here, though. First of all, a lot of the background info is ignored (Aoi and Kariya's relationship most importantly). Also, in the LN, Kariya chokes Aoi in a fit of madness, NOT INTENTIONALLY!! Once he realizes what he's doing he flips out and stops. I have no idea why the hell they made it seem like he was doing it intentionally here.

It's also more obvious that Aoi is alive in the LN... Jeez, these guys at Ufotable must really hate Kariya.


Well, for me, it seemed like he was angry and just realized afterwards what he has done. Pretty sure he wasnt doing it intentionally. Guess you missunderstood it.
My only regret is having regrets!
Dec 17, 2018 2:07 AM
Offline
Jan 2017
703
its very awesome when saber riding the bike and using invisible air,,
Feb 1, 2019 12:23 AM
Offline
Jul 2018
564533
The Rider from the previous episode was an imposter.
Saber owned Rider.
The last bit whit Kariya and Aoi in the church was really disturbing tbh.
Mar 25, 2019 3:55 AM

Offline
Nov 2011
3472
Aoi is a terrible woman..
"The Slave is the have-not, the oppressed one with nothing to spare.
But because the Slave is in that despairing situation, having nothing, it can kill the Emperor !"
Apr 12, 2019 5:39 PM

Offline
Feb 2017
967
Fucking why tho? No meaningful goal other than to particularly fuck with the other participants? Sadism for the sake of sadism?
𝘼 𝙨𝙤𝙪𝙣𝙙 𝙨𝙤𝙪𝙡 𝙙𝙬𝙚𝙡𝙡𝙨 𝙬𝙞𝙩𝙝𝙞𝙣 𝙖 𝙨𝙤𝙪𝙣𝙙 𝙢𝙞𝙣𝙙 𝙖𝙣𝙙 𝙖 𝙨𝙤𝙪𝙣𝙙 𝙗𝙤𝙙𝙮
May 29, 2019 7:39 PM
Offline
Jan 2019
206
Kariya's VA did a great job this episode. It really hit me :) Now whenever I think life sucks, I'll remember Kariya.

I have no one to root for to win after this episode. Fuck me xD
Jun 13, 2019 8:09 PM

Offline
Dec 2018
1102
That motorbike chase scene is pointless in the end, cuz Saber didn't even say something to Rider.

If Kiritsugu had a father figure like Zouken, I would enjoy how he killed his father.

Kariya didn't even realize this was a setup by Kirei.

He who smiles in a crisis has found someone to blame.
Aug 7, 2019 9:32 AM

Offline
Jul 2019
758
Tasting wine and breaking people's will to live. What a wonderful analogy. And who doesn't like to see Kariya suffer even more? Meeee. I wouldn't be surprised if he would die just to be revived and suffer again. Give the poor guy a break...
Aug 13, 2019 1:24 PM

Offline
Sep 2014
2590
Saber riding that motorcycle was pretty epic.
Waver and Rider after they realizing they had to walk all the way was lol.
Everyone wants to see the world burn I see.
Poor man can't get a fucking break and another waifu bites the dust RIP Aoi ._.
Sep 16, 2019 4:09 PM

Offline
Oct 2012
15984
Several things are clear at this point:
1) Kariya is completely incapable of forming a coherent thought. It was bad when he couldn't come up with a single rebuttal at the end of the first season against Tokiomi. Perhaps he was lost in anger. But this episode cemented him as an idiot with the vocabulary of a preschooler. Or maybe the writer was too lazy himself and decided instead to copy and paste lines from a repository of bad drama that include, "No! I can explain!" to "You're disgusting!!" to "I did all this for you!!" I don't know how any of you can be fooled into believing Kariya loved anyone when he can't even express his own feelings at any time.

2) One day Nitroplus was having a drink to himself, and like every other horrible writer in the universe, he came up with the groundbreaking realization,

"We should have a car chase scene!"

"...But, there's no context for a car chase scene. What to do?" :(

He paced around his apartment room, fretting about how to introduce just one more pointless high-octane scene into this montage of pointlessness, when, like all horrible writers who don't introduce events necessary to tell the story, but introduce story necessary to tell the events, he came up with one of the dumbest lines possible, that cement Rider as one of the dumbest characters next to all the dumb characters in this show,

"I'll prove my ideals are right by beating Saber in a race that she doesn't know about!!"

A-ha! What are you, 12 5?

Action scenes that do not contribute to the plot at all are boring as shit; I'd rather masturbate to porn without a story, or read a book with random words (e.g. the dictionary) as a novel.

3) Saber, after realizing, "Impossible! Rider doesn't have the girl!", "I'm going to continue this pointless battle by using up my ultimate technique! That will save the Grail that I've been fighting for these past 21 episodes prove how much of an idiot I am!!". For a bunch of characters putting their lives on the line for their ideals, literally, they sure are more leisurely than potheads getting high and listening to Metallica. Someone's like, "Dude, the supermarket closes in 30 minutes. We need to get a carton of OJ." "Nahhh duuude, let's watch memes and take another hit before we do anything, to make it more epic!!" "Good idea, Bob."
katsucatsSep 16, 2019 4:16 PM
My subjective reviews: katsureview.wordpress.com
THE CHAT CLUB.
Dec 6, 2019 4:28 PM

Offline
Oct 2015
5480
Lol I'm surprised Kariya even has the mental faculties to love someone given how idiotic he is. "I can explain!" "He's the one at fault!" great explanation really. Also he straight up murdered the women geez anger management may be needed.

Meanwhile Gil and Kirei critiquing the play like the connoisseurs they are with some wine. Having a quality bro time right there. Something to look forward to amidst all that meaningless suffering for visual titillation.
Apr 11, 2020 8:47 AM

Offline
Sep 2017
1899
I hate tokiomi's wife. Saying that someone doesn't understand love is just fucking crossing a line. Kariya did the right thing killing her. She couldn't even think about Sakura , ho doesn't deserve to live.
And my boi Kirei living the dream. This is how you deliver justice. Unlike Kiritsugu, who couldn't even do anything right in his life, Kirei actually does something.

Zouten Makou is the worst. Scum of the scum. Don't compare yourself to Kirei. You are nowhere near the awesomeness that Kirei is.

Without change,we end up becoming the very person we hate.


I was dead until the moment I met you. I was a powerless corpse pretending to be alive. Living without power, without the ability to change my course, was bound to lead me to a slow death.


Sep 7, 2020 10:31 PM

Offline
Aug 2020
25
The ending was so messed up.... I wonder if Kariya will kill himself after this. Gilgamesh really continues to corrupt Kirei huh. Good episode as always
Jun 28, 2021 5:17 AM
Offline
Jul 2018
564533
Where did that motorcycle scene come from, that was beautiful. And the fight with rider, while short, got its point across.
Fuck zouken. Of All the bad people in this series he's probably the worst. Kariya and his family did not deserve this suffering, that ending was brutal.
Aug 1, 2021 10:35 AM

Offline
Feb 2019
2475
Man, that entire affair with Kariya hit hard. Just one tragedy after another. And as I come from watching the Heaven's Feel trilogy, I know what happens afterwards anyway.... But still... I don't understand why he wouldn't just explain that he didn't kill Tokiomi though. Because he really didn't.

Kirei is interesting, but I can't say I like him. I hate him, to be honest. And I wonder what he plans to do with Irisviel.

This series' writing has exceeded my expectations, but it is still quite painful to watch. Kiritsugu's backstory, Maiya, and now Kariya... We're headed towards the endgame.
Aug 1, 2021 10:44 AM

Offline
Aug 2009
20024
Shikkakku said:
Man, that entire affair with Kariya hit hard. Just one tragedy after another. And as I come from watching the Heaven's Feel trilogy, I know what happens afterwards anyway.... But still... I don't understand why he wouldn't just explain that he didn't kill Tokiomi though. Because he really didn't.

Kirei is interesting, but I can't say I like him. I hate him, to be honest. And I wonder what he plans to do with Irisviel.

This series' writing has exceeded my expectations, but it is still quite painful to watch. Kiritsugu's backstory, Maiya, and now Kariya... We're headed towards the endgame.
because his mind is completely fucked up by the worms and Berserker. It is pretty clear I believe that he has lost his mind ever since he appeared in front of Aoi and told her to not worry because he was gonna kill her husband.
Nov 3, 2021 1:45 AM

Offline
Dec 2012
5034
Saber follows Rider.
Look at Saber go. Initial F.
Waver and Rider. Where's Iri?
Oh snap! Saber's doing Clear Mind? Where's the Masaaki Endo music?
Inbijiburu Ea!
Dat jump!
Kiritsugu is at teh Matou's.
Kariya is with Kirei and fake Rider?
Fake Rider is Berserker?
Zouken.
Rider's charge.
Ekusu...Kariba!
Kirei attacks Zouken.
Rider lost his chariot.
Saber leaves.
lol at Rider and Waver having to walk back.
If you see that my post is exactly 1 month old (or more) from when it was posted... Don't waste your time, especially when you want to reply with something petty & insignificant. Assume that I've moved on (because I have).
Nov 8, 2021 12:04 PM
Offline
Aug 2017
268
Saber transforming her bike was sick

Saber vs Rider street racing

Someone kill Zouken

Kariya, misunderstood and mistreated all the way and finishing with killing the woman he loves. He deserves better :( poor guy just wanted to help Sakura, Rin and the only person he's ever loved, Aoi.

Aoi deserved to die. Kariya was doing everything he can to save Sakura so her family can be happy again as one and Aoi didn't even care. She threw away Sakura as if it was nothing and never realised Kariyas love towards her and her daughters. She never even saw how bad of a state Kariya was in and never thanked him for what he is doing. Kariya even saved Rin when she went to look for her classmate but didn't receive any gratitude or acknowledgement from Aoi. Fucking ungrateful bitch I enjoyed your death.

Kirei is starting to learn joy

good episode full of emotions
OceanStream13Nov 8, 2021 12:11 PM
May 1, 2022 6:07 AM

Offline
Jun 2019
6246
This show is getting sadder and sadder with each episode. I feel so bad for Kariya. He couldn't protect anyone he cared about. What a setup. Also, glad that Rider wasn't the culprit there.
May 4, 2022 2:10 PM

Offline
Feb 2021
2347
First Caster and now Rider, Saber can't get a fucking break from these annoying servants. They were pretty lucky to run into the real Rider or else they could've been screwed. I don't like how that nullified the action at the end of the last ep
Jun 14, 2022 7:01 PM
Offline
Nov 2020
2445
Damn feel bad for Kariya, From a good soul who wanted to save a kid to someone who has lost his mind and body only to have none of it acknowledged....his life is truly a tragedy
Jul 27, 2022 10:55 AM
Offline
Jun 2021
127
Poor Kariya didn't deserve this, neither did Rin's mom... and Rin is now an orphan... jesus this was heavy
サンタクロース?そんなのいるはずがないのだ!馬鹿なのか?ーーあ、あれ?今年はクリスマスプレゼント抜きなのか?ま、待つのだ!ちょっと話すのだ!サンタクロースがもしかしたらいるかもしれないのだー!
Santa Claus? Are you dumb? There's no way something like that could... Huh? There's going to be coal in my stockings this year? W-wait! Let's discuss this! I'm sure there's some possibility that Santa is real!
-雪風様 (Yukikaze-sama)
Aug 12, 2022 12:17 PM

Offline
Jun 2020
35
goodgoodgoodgood
Nov 28, 2022 5:18 PM

Offline
Apr 2022
497
I wasn't readdy for him to choke her. His crasiness is next level.
“I won’t rely on anyone anymore. I don’t care if no one understands.” – Homura Akemi
Apr 8, 2023 5:24 AM
Offline
Feb 2021
2
why cant he say those simple 4 words "i didnt kill him". this was a reach ngl
Apr 8, 2023 7:14 PM
Offline
Feb 2021
509
Damn that was pretty fucked. I don't really feel too strongly towards Kariya, he just feels like the eternal pawn. I don't really blame him for killing Sakura's mom because she's just kinda a shit person like Tohsaka. Idk why rider tried to take Saber head on or why Berserker can shapeshift.
Jun 28, 2023 5:04 AM
Offline
Jul 2021
3153
Kariya: IM MAD AS HELL AND I AM NOT GONNA TAKE THIS ANYMORE!
Me every time I hear the word "reparations": 🤣🤣🤣
Jul 29, 2023 4:38 AM
Offline
Jul 2023
461
Damn, that happened
- SABER BIKE SCENES! The transformation was sick
- Another excaliber! Sick.
- They have to walk back, lol
- So, Berserker's phantsasm is to transform, thst wiull be interesting if he lasts
- Whoa, the wolverine claws are sick
- I dont really understand what zouken wants, he seems like the 'evil just to be evil' character and I hate it.
- Poor Kariya got played
- I dont understand what Rin's problem is. If someone sold my daughter to be worm r*ped, id kill him myself
ApreggiJul 29, 2023 4:42 AM
Aug 10, 2023 8:47 PM

Offline
Nov 2021
150
Man Kariya did not deserve any of that.

He went through so much shit all for him to be hated by the woman he loved.

Sep 23, 2023 1:54 PM

Offline
Dec 2022
625
Kariya straight up got mindfricked because how much things he's done for the sake of Sakura then proceeds to choke her biological mother because of dark circumstances set up by Kirei and sh-. I still feel bad for him cause his only purpose is to free Sakura from the Matou's clutches.

Finally i'm real glads that the real rider didn't actually caused that whole kidnapping Iri and killing Maiya.

Dec 1, 2023 7:26 PM

Offline
Nov 2023
2844
Damn that was really fatal but he's still lsmiling
Dec 16, 2023 1:37 PM
Offline
Dec 2021
365
probably the weakest episode but wasn't bad
Jan 17, 7:34 AM
Offline
Mar 2023
127
soy como el kariya pork la vida siempre me coge
Pages (10) « First ... « 8 9 [10]

More topics from this board

Poll: » Fate/Zero 2nd Season Episode 6 Discussion ( 1 2 3 4 5 ... Last Page )

tsubasalover - May 12, 2012

589 by frieren2024 »»
Apr 26, 4:02 AM

» What's next?

infinite_Shadows - Apr 10

13 by Ain2Zwei »»
Apr 15, 4:48 PM

Poll: » Fate/Zero 2nd Season Episode 12 Discussion ( 1 2 3 4 5 ... Last Page )

Stark700 - Jun 23, 2012

1325 by Joel77 »»
Mar 25, 11:30 PM

Poll: » Fate/Zero 2nd Season Episode 11 Discussion ( 1 2 3 4 5 ... Last Page )

tsubasalover - Jun 16, 2012

655 by Joel77 »»
Mar 25, 11:03 PM

Poll: » Fate/Zero 2nd Season Episode 10 Discussion ( 1 2 3 4 5 ... Last Page )

Yumekichi11 - Jun 9, 2012

728 by damnit_tomioka »»
Mar 18, 2:06 PM
It’s time to ditch the text file.
Keep track of your anime easily by creating your own list.
Sign Up Login