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Joseph_Jan 19, 2008 3:19 PM
| Just saw it; I liked it! It was rather fun. It's a little different from the real story in Air itself, but that's unavoidable. They had to take out characters and plots because it had to be in 90 minutes. Also because it's a movie, there might be people who see it the first time. |
| I think this was one of the best anime movies I have ever seen.The story is different from the Tv series,I would say it's more dramatic.The end is the same,and I also remarked the fact that the characters werw drawn slightly different form the series (In the movie,Yukito had his hair colored purple,Ryuga looks totaly different,and Misuzu's eyes are more round in the movie). |
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| I agree with SailorKagome, I prefer Toei Animation's versions of Key's games (Air and Clannad movies over the KyoAni's series). I mean, both are directed by legendary director Osamu Dezaki, and so are more dramatic and seem like works of art instead of just commercial series taken from a famous eroge, even if they have basically the same plots and characters (well not exactly because there are few secondary characters in the movies, which is actually quite good from my point of view). That's the main differences for me between those, and why I like Air and Clannad movie more. |
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| I agree with SailorKagome, I prefer Toei Animation's versions of Key's games (Air and Clannad movies over the KyoAni's series). I mean, both are directed by legendary director Osamu Dezaki, and so are more dramatic and seem like works of art instead of just commercial series taken from a famous eroge, even if they have basically the same plots and characters (well not exactly because there are few secondary characters in the movies, which is actually quite good from my point of view). That's the main differences for me between those, and why I like Air and Clannad movie more. |
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| i really liked it TT__TT |
| I agree how Toei Key adaptations (minus Kanon) are generally better than that of kyoani's attempts. One of the main reasons for this is that Toei actually focuses the story on the main canonical arc of the Visual Novel. KyoAni approaches an adaptation by balancing out the screen time of ALL the sub-heroines of a VN. Not only does the story feel lacking, but the jumps feel like mini-stories instead of one cohesive story. Of course its only fair to say that KyoAni did what they have to do due to the story needed to produce an entire anime season while all Toei has to do is produce an hour and a half movie. The main exception to this is Air TV. As much as I loved the anime, even I thought it was way too jumpy at times. They had the opportunity to fully flesh out Misuzu due to the 1cour nature of the show, but they decided to add all the girls for the sake of appeasing the fans (of course I'm not complaining). Now for the movie! My main gripe is how the cheesy music and odd camera angles completely ruined some of the pivotal scenes. An example is how they used some cheesy music when it was revealed that Misuzu's sickness is getting worse. Of course the mood they want to portray is that one shock but I just burst out laughing. Then we have the camera angles and I want to use one of the most important scenes in the movie to illustrate my point. The whole Misuzu beach scene...I honestly cried when I saw that on Air TV...but I kind of went wtf when I saw how the scene kept jutting all over the place. Some real good tear jerker scenes and they ruined it...(for me anyway). Other than that, movie is a great watch and is definitely better than kyoani's attempt due to the focused storyline. |
dunno why.. but i like the movie more.. maybe because the story is more focused with the main story.. the series has some scenes that arents that related.. haha.. thats what i think!.. :p love for misuzu!.. :p |
| So beautiful. ;_; The story fit good into these 90 minutes. The animation wasn't as good as KyoAni but it wasn't bad at all. I think Yukito looks better in the movie then in the series. D: My rating: 10/10 |
| Hated it! Yukito was so annoying in here, the story between the two back in the past was so boring, Misuzu was so... unlike her... the story was so full of cliches it made me sick... and the ending was stupid. Comparing to the anime series, this is trash. Yukito transfering to Sora was very important... why did they remove that? Also there was no room for the anding with the two kids which was such a good part... The only thing good that stayed was Misuzu's aunt... I understand why they evaded the 'aunt being actually mother' thing, so I won't work it out... but other than that... HIDOI! T_T |
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| It was great. Dunno about the experience but I've just seen episodes 1-3 of the TV Series and then watched this movie. Then, I'm going to watch the remaining episodes of the TV and specials. Kinda spoiled that there will be same endings. Haha! :D |
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| Movie was great. Good emotions. |
| eh i liked the series better |
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| It was a good movie, it just felt rushed to me. Man, Misuzu didn't deserve that.. I felt horrible for her. |
| "Yes, I have been deprived of emotion. But not completely. Whoever did it, botched the job." - Geralt of Rivia |
| Awesome movie, I watched the series a few months back then waited to watch this cause I thought watching the movie right after would be gay. I still remember the series barely. Cutting out all the extra characters worked out pretty well for me since I didn't really care for those stories in the series. I really liked the endings in both though. |
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| i dont like movie so much i prefere TV more, one main reason is coz misuzu was inner O_o i dont like such misuzu it wasnt shy misuzu that i know in tv >.< |
| Wow, this movie felt way rushed and very out of context to the series. Also the little love romance thing going on with Misuzu and Yukito was completely unnecessary. The dad seem to have no part in the movie what so ever. He was pretty useless. The character development was pretty poor in this movie, there was alot of things wrong with this movie in my opinion. The TV series was definitely superior. |
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| Yukito and Ryuuya is much more attractive in the movie than the series. |
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| Can't quite understand the love of this movie here. It was too one dimensional (the other characters/arcs made the TV more interesting to watch), the emotion shown by the characters is no where near as strong as the TV series, it felt a bit too rushed at times, and the animation was quite inconsistent. If you are doing an adaptation of the VN, then not following what it was showing as a theme (the summer arc, although not greatly executed in the TV series, was of huge importance to the story, as was Sora) is only going to downgrade the quality of it. |
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| Meh, it was okay. This adaption was crap compared to KyoAni's TV-anime. It was rushed and all the romance just felt unnecessary. Not nearly as emotional as the TV-anime either. Some of the soundtrack felt out of place at a few scenes and I hate Toei's character designs and art - they just spam as much lightning in there as possible. If I hadn't watched the TV-anime, I would probably have felt very lost during the movie. The parts with Kanna and Ryuuya were not developed at all. And the ending is a lot more powerful in the series. Oh well, I wasn't expecting much since, imo, Toei completely fucked up Clannad as well. |
stAtic91Apr 23, 2010 11:33 AM
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| I surprisingly enjoyed this movie. I liked that the character designs didn't look totally retarded and how they didn't focus too much on the moe bullshit. And by the way, how is it even possable to screw up Clannad? Did they actually make it good or something? |
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| Well.. I honestly liked the movie more. I like how there was more romance and interaction between characters that fit... There were moments in the TV series where I was like, "That Character wouldnt say that/do that"...etc BUT the series has better animation IMO and Yukito turning into Sora (although in the movie it is VERY subtle in implying it... so it's there) was done in the series, I liked that. Overall, due to it's strengths and weaknesses, I'll give this movie an 8/10, same I did for both Air and Air in Summer. Glad to have stumbled upon this series. |
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| we are all forgetting a very important thing guys. THEY ACTUALLY KISS! Personally, I love Kyoani's animation of it but I love how the movie focuses on Yukito and Misuzu, her advances on Yukito were so cute. And also a Ryuuya and Kanna KISS! The only bit I don't like about the series is the sad ending and the lack of powerful kissing scenes. The movie satisfied the latter but unfortunately, the ending cant be changed. |
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| i liked more the movie than the serie >< and felt more sad to me |
| I loved this.. T.T |
| i liked the movie than the anime mainly because there wasnt romance in the anime. and i dont really like SHY GIRLS here in the movie Misuzu looked so sluty and btchy lol i like that =D |
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| Unlike so many others... This didn't work for me. a. Art & Animation Okay, the style is a matter of taste in the first place. I wasn't too fond of the series' style either, but it was working way better for me than this. But the most annoying thing was the animation. It simply was sloppy in so many scenes that it made me cringe. It's a movie, goddamnit, why not handle it with due diligence?! b. Characters First of all, the TV show made me feel for Misuzu, even though I was not particularly fond of her, but that just shows that it got the job done, and even quite well at that. But this... It's been some time since I watched the TV show, so I wasn't too tempted to compare the two, but still, it became obvious that things were left out and that some things were touched upon - but only briefly. Why put in Sora? He was superfluous in this movie! The conflict with Misuzu's father at the end. It didn't have any real consequences and felt rushed. Haruko. I liked her best in the show, but she was just...shallow here, there was no real depth to her. Why cut out the conflict that was so important in characterizing her relationship with Misuzu? In the movie, she was shown to be caring at the start, and then, in another scene, she only returns home in the evening although Misuzu is sick and is depicted as careless, and the very next scene presents her in yet another light. All of the characters were acting so inconsistently, but not in a "I've changed!"-way but rather in a "Oh, there was this in the VN, we might touch upon it briefly"-way which didn't make sense in many scenes. Yukito's sudden changes of mind regarding Misuzu were barely comprehensible. I just didn't get to care about the characters very much. Take Kanna and Ryuuya, fore exmaple. Their story was so cheesy and underdeveloped at the same time that I didn't really want to get any more on them than what was already shown; it was too over the top for me. It felt like they wanted to tell a different story but then threw in bits and pieces of the show which then didn't fit in with the new stuff. All in all, I somehow also felt like I was watching the show backwards. I don't know. Just...no. |
SaorinMar 1, 2011 3:16 PM
| Just wanted to say that I pretty much agree with everything you stated in your post, Saorin. While I preferred the art and animation from KyoAni in the TV series, most of it here in the movie was fine. The only thing I didn't care too much for were the manga-like still scenes. Perhaps there were just too many of those, and "less is more" might apply here. As far as characters/relationships go, the (initially) more distant relationship between Misuzu and Haruko and how that relationship evolves in the TV series evoked more emotion (at least for me) than their relationship in the movie. The romantic relationships between Misuzu and Yukito (as well as Ryuuya and Kanna) also didn't work as well for me compared to the respective, less romantic relationships in the series. Even with all of the above said, I still enjoyed this movie as an alternate telling of Air. I appreciated some of the little added background scenes, such as seeing Misuzu asking for and receiving her picture book assignment for the summer, or seeing where Misuzu went to school earlier, etc... All I can say is the series evoked deeper emotional connections with the characters for me. Still, 8/10 for the movie for me. |
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| different from series... and too painful for me, here is more love but is ending awful, the girl is dead, I liked Misuzu, but...I'm very sad of course for those who don't understand the series the movie is better 8/10 |
| Pretty good movie, liked it way more than the series. |
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| This movie was excellent some changes from the TV series but IMO much better than the series that they managed to put the same things in 1:30 hours! A fantastic movie of this Anime! 9/10 |
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| Well, this is rather less confusing than in the TV series but I still like them both. |
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| oh so sad man just like anime :'( |
| I'm not sure why I preferred this over the TV series years ago. This has actually made me appreciate the series much more. I liked how they focused on Misuzu and avoided unnecessary harem side stories, but I felt so many scenes were executed much better in the TV series, especially the resolution with the father. I also felt Kanna and Ryuuya's story was a bit bland and lacking. I realize they aired around the same time so naturally they would be different interpretations, but I prefer KyoAni's version after all. Originally had this scored at a 9, but reducing it to a 7/10. This has actually made me change my score to Air TV as well, moving that from a 7 to an 8/10. |
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| I really can't tell which one I liked more, this or the TV series. Regardless, does anyone know if this is what the "true" route is in the Air VN? I haven't played it so. |
| For me, movie is better than TV version (except the animation, which is actually horrible). |
| Dub = fake crap. Always. |
| I haven't seen the series and I liked this enough to watch the series. |
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| I saw the series awhile back and determined the movie is actually better than the series. The pacing and flow of the series is flawed to the point of being boring at times. Though series was deeper, more complex and I kind of respect it more for what it tried to do, coupled with the fact it has a significantly more tragic ending that made the final few episodes downright harrowing, I think that actually works against the series in some ways. The movie was more simple and perhaps less respectable, but that very simpleness allows one to appreciate it for what it is more than the series. I think all of the extra stuff the series tried to add but didn't fully explore really weighs it down. The puny 2 episode arcs, for example, may serve to achieve a real "ooohhhhh" moment when you begin connecting things together at the end of the series, but they didn't accomplish much except adding extra, needless fluff at the time of watching them. If they would've been more elaborate they would've helped, but they weren't. By cutting all this fluff out, the movie just ends up being more earnest and, because of that, enjoyable. Like I said, I really respect the series for what it tried to do, but the execution was really subpar. The movie just has much better execution. I will say, however, that I would not love Yukito and Misuzu nearly as much as I do if it wasn't for the series. |
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| Toei can't animate, that's all. The TV version is so much better, in every aspect. (I've just re-watched both "skipping") |
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