Who is the strongest servant in Fate-verse?
Hakuromatsu said: TheRealBoyd said: The thing about Archer Hercules isn't that he's the strongest Servant, but that's the best class for Hercules. Apart from word of god, is there any evidence to suggest that? He doesn't have to be Archer-class to use Nine Lives, does he? 9 lives shooting hundred hydra heads is basically bow and arrow so |
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BloodRequiem said: rider is actually pretty top tier in FSN ^This |
ataraxial said: He'd lose in a direct fight against a lot of those Servants, but unlike them, he has power instead of skill. Just as power isn't everything, skill isn't everything. Not that I'm saying he could beat F/SN Assassin just with his stats. That's what I meant by saying he's not average tier. Though I guess that's a funny way to say that, so I guess I more or less agree with you. Though, again, that's why he's Archer instead of Saber.I think he's approximately average tier if we're not talking about noble phantasms. I wouldn't bet on him if he were up against FSN Assassin, for example. Or any of the FSN Servants, really, except perhaps Rider. Now that I think about it, same goes for Fate/Zero Servants... I can't see him beating anyone if noble phantasms were locked, except obviously Zero Caster and perhaps Assassin. Also Gilgamesh's mana is high enough to resist F/SN Rider's eyes. He wouldn't be petrified, just suffer a bit of pressure. Also Hercules doesn't have to be Archer to use Nine Lives, just not Berserker. But as an Archer it can do the "100 Strikes in a single second" thing. |
TheRealBoyd said: He'd lose in a direct fight against a lot of those Servants, but unlike them, he has power instead of skill. Just as power isn't everything, skill isn't everything. Not that I'm saying he could beat F/SN Assassin just with his stats. That's what I meant by saying he's not average tier. Though I guess that's a funny way to say that, so I guess I more or less agree with you. Though, again, that's why he's Archer instead of Saber. Indeed. So what did you mean by "not average tier"? TheRealBoyd said: Also Gilgamesh's mana is high enough to resist F/SN Rider's eyes. He wouldn't be petrified, just suffer a bit of pressure. This is what I was thinking when I mentioned Rider. Assuming, of course, that Gil is under Tokiomi and not Kirei. |
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TheRealBoyd said: ataraxial said: He'd lose in a direct fight against a lot of those Servants, but unlike them, he has power instead of skill. Just as power isn't everything, skill isn't everything. Not that I'm saying he could beat F/SN Assassin just with his stats. That's what I meant by saying he's not average tier. Though I guess that's a funny way to say that, so I guess I more or less agree with you. Though, again, that's why he's Archer instead of Saber.I think he's approximately average tier if we're not talking about noble phantasms. I wouldn't bet on him if he were up against FSN Assassin, for example. Or any of the FSN Servants, really, except perhaps Rider. Now that I think about it, same goes for Fate/Zero Servants... I can't see him beating anyone if noble phantasms were locked, except obviously Zero Caster and perhaps Assassin. Also Gilgamesh's mana is high enough to resist F/SN Rider's eyes. He wouldn't be petrified, just suffer a bit of pressure. Also Hercules doesn't have to be Archer to use Nine Lives, just not Berserker. But as an Archer it can do the "100 Strikes in a single second" thing. sakura medusa has close to same stats as tokiomi gil cept for endurance and luck but shes got that monstrous strength modifier so...you never know |
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BloodRequiem said: sakura medusa has close to same stats as tokiomi gil cept for endurance and luck but shes got that monstrous strength modifier so...you never know Yeah it's hard to say. Which is why I said "perhaps Rider." On the other hand, I can see Gil getting whupped by just about any other FSN servant. |
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ataraxial said: Was just saying in terms of pure statistics. Everyone that talks about how strong Saber is in universe refers to her ridiculous stats before even mentioning Excalibur.Indeed. So what did you mean by "not average tier"?. Also since FSN Rider's stats were brought up, with Sakura: Str B, End D, Agl A, Mana B, Luck E, NP A+ Monstrous Strength brings a rank up in Strength, but she can't use it for too long or she'll transform into a gorgon. Again, Tokiomi Gilgamesh is Str B, End B, Agl B, Mana A, Luck A, NP EX And since I brought up Saber, Rin Saber is Str A, End B, Agl B, Mana A, Luck A+, NP A++ |
TheRealBoyd said: ataraxial said: Was just saying in terms of pure statistics. Everyone that talks about how strong Saber is in universe refers to her ridiculous stats before even mentioning Excalibur.Indeed. So what did you mean by "not average tier"?. Also since FSN Rider's stats were brought up, with Sakura: Str B, End D, Agl A, Mana B, Luck E, NP A+ Monstrous Strength brings a rank up in Strength, but she can't use it for too long or she'll transform into a gorgon. Again, Tokiomi Gilgamesh is Str B, End B, Agl B, Mana A, Luck A, NP EX And since I brought up Saber, Rin Saber is Str A, End B, Agl B, Mana A, Luck A+, NP A++ I see. Skills are kind of important though, like Mystic Eyes and Monstrous Strength for Rider. |
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TheRealBoyd said: ataraxial said: Was just saying in terms of pure statistics. Everyone that talks about how strong Saber is in universe refers to her ridiculous stats before even mentioning Excalibur.Indeed. So what did you mean by "not average tier"?. Also since FSN Rider's stats were brought up, with Sakura: Str B, End D, Agl A, Mana B, Luck E, NP A+ Monstrous Strength brings a rank up in Strength, but she can't use it for too long or she'll transform into a gorgon. Again, Tokiomi Gilgamesh is Str B, End B, Agl B, Mana A, Luck A, NP EX And since I brought up Saber, Rin Saber is Str A, End B, Agl B, Mana A, Luck A+, NP A++ saber also has that precog battle instinct thing which translates alot into PIS |
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| Yeah, that's why I admitted it was a weird way for me to judge that. You're right. Though, his armor is pretty strong, it could protect him from Tsubame Gaeshi, according to Type Moon wiki. Unless Assassin aimed for his head, of course. Which he would. |
| Honestly, anyone mentioning FSN Rider is weak is because: a) they haven't played the VN yet nad only watched the anime b) They're too blinded by the GAR-ness of Zero Rider... lol Objectively speaking Gilgamesh is the strongest one, If he throws away all his pride, and just use his EX NP fro mthe start of the match.. lol |
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BloodRequiem said: saber also has that precog battle instinct thing which translates alot into PIS Exactly, whereas Gil has money, which is only useful for his NPs. TheRealBoyd said: Yeah, that's why I admitted it was a weird way for me to judge that. You're right. Though, his armor is pretty strong, it could protect him from Tsubame Gaeshi, according to Type Moon wiki. Unless Assassin aimed for his head, of course. Which he would. This is the best post I've ever read :) |
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ataraxial said: BloodRequiem said: saber also has that precog battle instinct thing which translates alot into PIS Exactly, whereas Gil has money, which is only useful for his NPs. TheRealBoyd said: Yeah, that's why I admitted it was a weird way for me to judge that. You're right. Though, his armor is pretty strong, it could protect him from Tsubame Gaeshi, according to Type Moon wiki. Unless Assassin aimed for his head, of course. Which he would. This is the best post I've ever read :) but without NPs all servants are shit so we cant argue everything stat wise |
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| I'd say Archer/Gilgamesh |
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| NEXT ROUND berserker Lancelot vs berserker Heracles |
| Gilgamesh hands down. |
ssjokg said: NEXT ROUND berserker Lancelot vs berserker Heracles barely a fight more like slaughter hercules wins |
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BloodRequiem said: ssjokg said: NEXT ROUND berserker Lancelot vs berserker Heracles barely a fight more like slaughter hercules wins so fast... |
BloodRequiem said: ssjokg said: NEXT ROUND berserker Lancelot vs berserker Heracles barely a fight more like slaughter hercules wins But Zero Berserker can fly and stuff... |
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ssjokg said: Hercules would easily win before Lancelot could kill him 12 times, if he even could with God Hand's immunity to being killed by the same thing more than once.NEXT ROUND berserker Lancelot vs berserker Heracles |
ataraxial said: BloodRequiem said: ssjokg said: NEXT ROUND berserker Lancelot vs berserker Heracles barely a fight more like slaughter hercules wins But Zero Berserker can fly and stuff... spirit form - get on the plane no problem lancelot cant get past godhand without arondight and once he draws that he will prob take 1 life and get squashed hercules can regen his lives as well |
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| @ataraxial still his NP wouldnt be ranked high enough to hurt heracles |
| wait for the flame war when we get to archer vs Gil... |
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That's true. It goes to a default rank of D or something obnoxiously low iirc. But if it could... well, at least it would be more interesting. TheRealBoyd said: ssjokg said: Hercules would easily win before Lancelot could kill him 12 times, if he even could with God Hand's immunity to being killed by the same thing more than once.NEXT ROUND berserker Lancelot vs berserker Heracles Assuming Heracles could be hurt at all, Zero Berserker could come up with different ways to kill him, a la Emiya. |
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BloodRequiem said: wait for the flame war when we get to archer vs Gil... I wonder if will anyone say that archer should trace Ea.... |
ssjokgApr 30, 2012 4:54 AM
| The thing with Archer and Gilgamesh is that they have a bunch of different weapons to get around that immunity. All of the awesome weapons Lancelot got in Fate/Zero were because of plot, they weren't just lying around. |
ataraxial said: That's true. It goes to a default rank of D or something obnoxiously low iirc. But if it could... well, at least it would be more interesting. TheRealBoyd said: ssjokg said: Hercules would easily win before Lancelot could kill him 12 times, if he even could with God Hand's immunity to being killed by the same thing more than once.NEXT ROUND berserker Lancelot vs berserker Heracles Assuming Heracles could be hurt at all, Zero Berserker could come up with different ways to kill him, a la Emiya. archer could trace stuff and make BPs ssjokg said: BloodRequiem said: wait for the flame war when we get to archer vs Gil... I wonder if anyone will say that archer should trace Ea.... or archer tracing avalon... |
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BloodRequiem said: ataraxial said: That's true. It goes to a default rank of D or something obnoxiously low iirc. But if it could... well, at least it would be more interesting. TheRealBoyd said: ssjokg said: Hercules would easily win before Lancelot could kill him 12 times, if he even could with God Hand's immunity to being killed by the same thing more than once.NEXT ROUND berserker Lancelot vs berserker Heracles Assuming Heracles could be hurt at all, Zero Berserker could come up with different ways to kill him, a la Emiya. archer could trace stuff and make BPs ssjokg said: BloodRequiem said: wait for the flame war when we get to archer vs Gil... I wonder if anyone will say that archer should trace Ea.... or archer tracing avalon... sure he can... if they only watched the anime that is many have that problem. |
ssjokg said: BloodRequiem said: ataraxial said: That's true. It goes to a default rank of D or something obnoxiously low iirc. But if it could... well, at least it would be more interesting. TheRealBoyd said: ssjokg said: Hercules would easily win before Lancelot could kill him 12 times, if he even could with God Hand's immunity to being killed by the same thing more than once.NEXT ROUND berserker Lancelot vs berserker Heracles Assuming Heracles could be hurt at all, Zero Berserker could come up with different ways to kill him, a la Emiya. archer could trace stuff and make BPs ssjokg said: BloodRequiem said: wait for the flame war when we get to archer vs Gil... I wonder if anyone will say that archer should trace Ea.... or archer tracing avalon... sure he can... if they only watched the anime that is many have that problem. some even wanked as far as archer tracing and using caliburn |
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| Saber with Rin as her master and Avalon gets my vote. Although, raw destructive power and range goes to Gilgamesh. |
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-Shuda- said: Saber with Rin as her master and Avalon gets my vote. Although, raw destructive power and range goes to Gilgamesh. rin saber wont get avalon thats the problem |
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BloodRequiem said: -Shuda- said: Saber with Rin as her master and Avalon gets my vote. Although, raw destructive power and range goes to Gilgamesh. rin saber wont get avalon thats the problem True, but I was considering each servant at their "possible" strongest. All abilities, NP's and Combinations. Rin-Saber with Avalon would be the most versatile imo. |
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-Shuda- said: BloodRequiem said: -Shuda- said: Saber with Rin as her master and Avalon gets my vote. Although, raw destructive power and range goes to Gilgamesh. rin saber wont get avalon thats the problem True, but I was considering each servant at their "possible" strongest. All abilities, NP's and Combinations. Rin-Saber with Avalon would be the most versatile imo. but rin saber with avalon is not canon |
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| Gil is the strongest based on both displayed feats and word of God. He can win the HGW in one night if he wasn't being nerfed b the plot and his own character stupidity. |
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| I probably shouldn't get involved in this... Gilgamesh is just hands down the strongest and if there is a servant stronger, we haven't been shown them yet. Reasons Gil is just better than the rest: All of that sums up what Gilgamesh can do with less than 10% of what he actually has at his disposal. Basically, with the number of Noble Phantasms he has he can hardcounter or completely prevent almost anything and the only reason he ever loses is his ego which has nothing to do with his capabilities as a servant. Ignoring Gilgamesh, the strongest servants are probably (in no order) Iskander, Medea, Lancelot, Karna, Hercules, Archer. For Karna: For Iskander: For Medea: For Lancelot: For Hercules: Archer: |
Thalos said: I probably shouldn't get involved in this... Gilgamesh is just hands down the strongest and if there is a servant stronger, we haven't been shown them yet. Reasons Gil is just better than the rest: All of that sums up what Gilgamesh can do with less than 10% of what he actually has at his disposal. Basically, with the number of Noble Phantasms he has he can hardcounter or completely prevent almost anything and the only reason he ever loses is his ego which has nothing to do with his capabilities as a servant. Ignoring Gilgamesh, the strongest servants are probably (in no order) Iskander, Medea, Lancelot, Karna, Hercules, Archer. For Karna: For Iskander: For Medea: For Lancelot: For Hercules: Archer: apocrypha servants are prob the most haxed in nasuverse saint george and jack the ripper LOL only a few things i disagree with zerker lancelot is below rider iskander tier nuke thing and plane thing- very situational not like there are planes and nukes everywhere for him to corrupt lancer cu chulainn>rider medusa> or = archer EMIYA>or =rider iskander caster medea depends on prep and compatibility so it could go either way |
BloodRequiemApr 30, 2012 1:57 AM
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BloodRequiem said: only a few things i disagree with zerker lancelot is below iskander tier nuke thing and plane thing- very situational not like there are planes and nukes everywhere for him to corrupt cu chulainn>medusa> or = EMIYA>or =iskander I agree that strictly speaking Lancelot is not the same tier as Iskander, but I still consider him high tier compared to most. As long as you can find an airbase not too far from the Grail then raiding it and stealing one would not be too hard for a servant. The main problem is whether one is in range or not. But even aside from that, modern weapons (once noble phantasms) are deadly in their own right. A machinegun will become scary to servants once made into a NP and if the servant only has melee abilities they're basically doomed against him because he's probably the strongest at swordsmanship and his NP is one of the top anti-unit swords. |
| Does anyone remember how much a servant's status increase while being an Alter.If it was ever mentioned that is... |
| If in the Archer (Emiya) vs Berserker (Heracles) fight, Archer uses UBW first and instead of going head on but just shoots all of his weapons as BPs, would he have been able to beat Berserker. |
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MapoTofu said: If in the Archer (Emiya) vs Berserker (Heracles) fight, Archer uses UBW first and instead of going head on but just shoots all of his weapons as BPs, would he have been able to beat Berserker. Heracles Berserker isnt as slow as the anime makes him to be.And no one knows how Archer really fought him.And he wasnt at full power because of Saber's attack in the beginning.If Shirou was able to beat him I dont see EMIYA being unable to since he is a lot more powerful than his younger self. |
ssjokgApr 30, 2012 3:27 AM
Thalos said: Gilgamesh is just hands down the strongest and if there is a servant stronger, we haven't been shown them yet. Pretty much that. Until someone summons Lilith or something, Gilgamesh remains the strongest servant of them all by a mile... |
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| archer aka Emiya Shirou. |
Venneria said: archer aka Emiya Shirou. Except you seem not to have voted for him... |
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ssjokg said: MapoTofu said: If in the Archer (Emiya) vs Berserker (Heracles) fight, Archer uses UBW first and instead of going head on but just shoots all of his weapons as BPs, would he have been able to beat Berserker. Heracles Berserker isnt as slow as the anime makes him to be.And no one knows how Archer really fought him.And he wasnt at full power because of Saber's attack in the beginning.If Shirou was able to beat him I dont see EMIYA being unable to since he is a lot more powerful than his younger self. BP takes a huge amount of prana which is counterproductive to the whole point of using UBW because the point of UBW is having access to high ranked, accurate copies while keeping cost low berserker is several times faster than archer and no archer cant trace avalon or caliburn because he doesnt have a connection with saber therefore he has no image and im pretty sure he healed that wound saber gave him a long time ago |
BloodRequiemApr 30, 2012 7:50 AM
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ssjokg said: Does anyone remember how much a servant's status increase while being an Alter.If it was ever mentioned that is... saber alter > or = rin saber > kiritsugu saber > shirou saber alter can spam excalibur nonstop and is always pranabursting but luck and agility drops normal berserker > dark berserker |
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| Oh. I almost forgot to add, Shiki can kill Servants. kthxbai :3 |
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BloodRequiem said: -Shuda- said: BloodRequiem said: -Shuda- said: Saber with Rin as her master and Avalon gets my vote. Although, raw destructive power and range goes to Gilgamesh. rin saber wont get avalon thats the problem True, but I was considering each servant at their "possible" strongest. All abilities, NP's and Combinations. Rin-Saber with Avalon would be the most versatile imo. but rin saber with avalon is not canon It's a possibility though. I'm surprised most servants have 0 votes. Looks like most of us here know who the strongest servant is. |
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| I am surprised that GARcher has zero votes.His fans either didnt come here yet or after the start of FZ they changed to Gilgamesh. I thought Emiya to be the strongest a time long ago but I changed the moment I learnt that he cant trace Ea because of UBW 's limits I changed.But he still is my favorite. |
ssjokgApr 30, 2012 10:06 AM
ssjokg said: I am surprised that GARcher has zero votes.His fans either didnt come here yet or after the start of FZ they changed to Gilgamesh. I thought Emiya to be the strongest a long ago but I changed the moment I learnt that he cant trace Ea because of UBW 's limits I changed.But he still is my favorite. archer is considered to be mid/high tier but he wont get above saber and who the hell voted for zero berseker? total wanker there |
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BloodRequiem said: ssjokg said: I am surprised that GARcher has zero votes.His fans either didnt come here yet or after the start of FZ they changed to Gilgamesh. I thought Emiya to be the strongest a long ago but I changed the moment I learnt that he cant trace Ea because of UBW 's limits I changed.But he still is my favorite. archer is considered to be mid/high tier but he wont get above saber and who the hell voted for zero berseker? total wanker there I believe Emiya has some chances against saber.He doesnt need to fight in close quarters. |
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