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Nasty001 said: Ok, so Marika's pirate captain training begins and she has her 1st hit, btw doesn't this have that "Star Trek" thing in it, were Marika is the captain, Chaki is Mr. Spock, Misa is Doc. McCoy and Kane is Mr. Zulu? Them taking the Princess Apricot is like something simililar to "I M Weasel" were the people are even happy to be boraded by pirates. Uh, that Sulu, not Zulu! The best character on the original series and movies! (Don't call me "Tiny"!) George Takei is still awesome today! His Facebook posts are fantastic! :) As for this episode, it was great! Loved it! :) For people that didn't understand this pirate raid, it was a training exercise. Something easy for Marika to get her feet wet and satisfy the terms of their Letter of Marque, but not something overly challenging. Reading some of the messages, it seems that some people didn't get that the sword fight was staged, but that doesn't mean that it was all for show. The people on the ship were not in on the joke, nor were the ship's crew. Why wouldn't they have security? Because Piracy is extremely rare and that would be a waste of money. Plus, once the pirate has taken over the life support systems, any real armed resistance would be stupid. The pirates could just turn off the O2 until you passed out. In any case, it was very funny! |
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zensunni said: Plus, once the pirate has taken over the life support systems, any real armed resistance would be stupid. The pirates could just turn off the O2 until you passed out. Someone who gets it :) |
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| The way some things are being presented is starting to get me a bit. With the way stuff is being shown it's like Marika is becoming an expert at whatever she does after two minutes of training. Which is ridiculous, really. If it's a problem with the presentation or character herself (she's just that good at everything - gag me), though I don't know. Even if it was an act she seemed to be able to handle the sword a little too well, for example. Really not getting the point of having sanctioned pirates around in a time of peace, either. It made sense when they were at war and wanted to weaken the enemy but why would the Government support it now? Seems like a pretty big hole in the plot to me but maybe I'm missing something. |
| Yeah, that's nice but 120 hours isn't really any better. |
| I don't know but more then the half-assed training that she did get. If you want a character to show skills that would take days, weeks, or even months to learn then maybe they should actually put in the work. Just a thought. Of course it's not really something that is limited to this series, as a lot like to do it. Anime is littered with characters that are good at things for no real reason or become good much faster then they should be able to. Which character Marika is turning out to be is yet to be seen but neither is good. |
TanrimFeb 16, 2012 3:47 AM
adzlan said: "Half assed"? You don't expect them to show every details now do you? And from where did you get Marika is already good at strategy, navigating, electronic warfare, judo, and plamo? What was shown was her doing training. Not to forget, there is some added time after Chiaki arrived Hey at least she is not the typical destined kid who got into gundam and came out alive after the first fight Yes, half-assed. The main issue was with the time she actually spent training rather then what was just shown but, yeah, that is also an issue. More time showing would have given the illusion that she went through a proper amount of training, the actual passage of time would have given a solid backing to it. Say if she had spent several weeks training. Would have made things a lot easier to swallow. Also, no I didn't get that she's good at those things. I got that she just happens to be for no good reason. Which is one of the things I already mentioned in regards to other shows. There's really no reason she should be good at electronic warfare, for example the writers just made her like that despite the fact that she had no experience with it before hand. Navigating is different as she had plenty of practice at that already, I suppose. You're right. She's just a entitled kid that's put in charge of an entire ship because daddy is supposedly dead. Much better. |
| A really nice episode, but I think next episode will be even better. |
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adzlan said: And of course I'm right. She is put in charge of a ship with proper training first :D In particular, as far as I can tell, Marika isn't even actually 'in charge' yet. Misa has always been the one at the captain's chair, Misa and Kane are calling the shots, she's being forced to wear a big "trainee" sign on her back, and they gave her a script to follow for the raid. She hasn't even given a single independent command. adzlan said: Again, all the classes she attended didn't mention she's already good in everything. I wonder how she did at building the model, however ;) |
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| Haha, everyone in the ship being happy that they got the honor to be the first pirated 'victims' of Marika XD About the legalized robbery: maybe the pirates acts like a kind of tax-collectors? Those visited/raided by them have to hand over valuables, and a percentage of the collected treasure is handed over to the government... ? |
AteniasFeb 17, 2012 12:32 PM
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| old pirates will puke rainbows when they see this episode! |
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| Awesome episode! I loved the gunshot part, and Chiaki's tsundere-ness. I want to know who the dark-haired eyepatch lady is! She only had one line in this episode, but she looks interesting. |
hentai_proxy said: I observe that nobody has really answered Monad's plainly worded and reasonable questions about the show. It this show supposed to be a rather cheerful adventure with some drama, or a dark tale of a skilled criminal (or is it that raiding civilian ships, stealing valuables - perhaps of great sentimental value, and potentially opening fire with intent to kill is all ok if you have a paper saying so)? Dalek-baka said: Monad said: Well you forget this supposed pirates can go around because they are allowed to. Wouldn't killing innocent people change the happy little show to something more tragic and make the government think of their status twice since it will give the government a really bad image? That's why probably they are making this show in the first place - to avoid that situation. So you are claiming that in this show, there is no possibility that a plan may fail? This question is also directed towards Cratex's somewhat condescending "Finally, someone who gets it" post. Plans do fail, as the show spent two episodes making evident when the skilled crew of the Lightning 11 failed to peacefully defeat the Odette 2 and was forced to open fire, prompting an equally violent response. No possibility that some innocent person will flip out, try to resist, and be gunned down? How much are we supposed to suspend our disbelief? And all that would be fine, if it was established that Marika was the sort of person who did not have qualms about becoming a potential killer, but the show has indicated the opposite. So, what is going on with the characterization here? Exactly. No matter how well you plan everything and how easy a mission you think might be you never know when you might fall in a person that might go nuts or simply dislike your actions. If one of the guest pulled a gun that had for self protection and started shooting, what then? Kill him? They could but how will Marika feel that in the end they killed a person that was not fighting with them and just got scared or simply didn't want his belongings taken. Marika doesn't seem like the person that likes the idea of killing not criminal kind of people. Also what about the government and insurance companies? Even if Marika was a ruthless individual and her morals where not in the way of killing simple people why is the government giving this pirates license to even rob cruse-ships where something could go wrong and get innocent people killed? Certainly the license should have been something more logical like helping the government by stealing and capturing other unlicensed vessels or criminals and not give them a license that allows them to hurt licensed ships, simple civilians and the tourist industry. And as i said before insurance companies agreeing to pay for the goods stolen when the government issues licenses to this pirates it's crazy. If i was the director of an insurance company i will demand that the government stop allowing this pirates from taking such actions or else my company will not compensate for goods stolen by this people that can act so freely with the blessings of the government. |
MonadFeb 19, 2012 4:31 PM
| I just watched episode 7. ... I was wrong. (and I'm very disappointed) I concede defeat, and apologize for anything I said. |
CratexFeb 19, 2012 5:13 PM
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| Watching the orchestrated attack on the ship was lots of fun and the sword fight was dramatic. Marika messing up on the broadcast mic was hilarious. |
| That Apricot Cruiser had an epic Warp sequence. But those oldschool pirate hats are a bit silly. |
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| Marika's evil laugh is win. Cratex said: On the other hand, the original Star Trek was very much a political and moral/ethical beast, often used to highlight the creator's opinions on the political, social and moral issues of the early 1960s. Mouretsu Pirates has none of that (so far). Am I the only one who was picking up heavy satire from this episode? It seemed to me like a pretty obvious commentary on how everything serious gets turned into a cheap spectacle these days, in addition to a slight mocking of that timeless political ill known as bureaucracy. |
| “Money can't buy dere” |
| Loved this episode. It took a bit of a break from the strategies and tactics of the previous episode, but was strong in it's own right as it added some more depth to Marika and I like how this series handles the idea of a "pirate". It seemed like the people, for the most part, actually found it a "privilege" to be "attacked" here and I like the showy feel the entire affair had. It felt really theatrical and it was a really imaginative sequence, I thought. Excellent series so far. |
| "Yes, I have been deprived of emotion. But not completely. Whoever did it, botched the job." - Geralt of Rivia |
| I want to say this is getting ridiculous, but I'll hold my judgement a little longer (probably until ep 26). |
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| i was looking forward to this anime before it aired, but it's getting boring. they spend the entire anime in a spaceship and talk about stuff i don't care about. no actual action....grrrr it's so boring what a let down |
| "Do not consider yourself deprived because your dreams were not fulfilled; the truly deprived have never dreams." -Marie von Ebner |
| Marika was hilarious during her first raid :') I don't really understand why they'd legalise piracy though, unless the government does take a cut. I'm hoping we see more planets and cities soon. |
| Ha Ha that was a glorious act! I'm picking this series up again after a year, I shouldn't have stopped |
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| Pirating just seems so......fake. At least in this show. There is no point to pirating in this world. I'll keep watching but man this show was not what I expected. |
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| Haha she's so adorable as a captain :D really nice development :D |
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| Marika's first raid is still as funny as when I first watched this episode. "Gahahaha..cough cough...haha..." XD! |
"May those who accept their fate be granted happiness." "May those who defy their fate be granted glory." |
| I'm still trying to figure out why the government still sanctions space pirates. |
| So far I m surprisingly enjoying this odd ball. Also somehow I always like when that tsundere black haired girl shows up, reminds me of Homura from Madoka's. |
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| Hã? What? Legalize piracy. Ok, I got this. But... this is really happening? They really got all the acessories from those people? It's like legalize thieves so they can have the full and legally permission to rob without any worry to be arrested or something like that... This makes no sense.... I missed something...? Or this is just....... Well.. I really got dissapointed now... =/ I hope they explain it, because if they come with "just accept it" and period, I'll.... I'll................ Plus, this episode SOO rushed. Of course I didn't expect they to show all the training and bla bla bla, but it was REALLY rushed about everything (An example: They didn't even care to introduce the characters, and Marika was talking with them as if they knew each other for ages). It's like they compressed 5 episodes in 1. |
TechOtakuMay 31, 2016 7:47 PM
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| Ayy finally Marika as the captain!!! I love her smugness during the raid!!! Also, people are just there laughing as their valuables gets stolen O___O Can't wait for more Marika goodness!! |
| Uhh...how is this legal? Lol, what kind of government would legalize pirates terrorizing spaceships and stealing stuff? The pirates helped in the war of independence but still...Kinda feels like morality is thrown out the window either way That was a nice little swordfight we got there. Also lol at how Marika was announcing them taking over the ship to all the laughing people on board |
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