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09-28-11, 3:18 AM

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Kaiji's definitely moe!

I just put these in spoiler tags because it takes too much space:
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09-28-11, 4:39 AM

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Great ending as i expected , i hope they'll announce a 3rd kaiji real soon !
 
09-28-11, 4:47 AM

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09-28-11, 5:07 AM

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"ENDOUUUUUUUUUU!!!!!!111!!!11!!!1"

Oh the typical you, Kaiji, getting all excited before you have to read the fine print.

What a warm ending as well as every single character cried their so moe-manly tears in this episode. It was a sensational experience going through the entire season, though it was a bit dragging at times particularly the recent bog arc.
 
09-28-11, 5:41 AM

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Goddammit Kaiji, you're fucking hopless. Dumb and naive til the end.
 
09-28-11, 5:51 AM

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Nice ending.. lol when Kaiji cried and said kind old man.
 
09-28-11, 7:53 AM

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Great finale. Kaiji moe is the best kind of moe.
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09-28-11, 8:20 AM

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Kaiji you're such a loser lol. Did anyone noticed Sakazaki's daughter just before Kaiji hugged the gang haha?

It was entertaining but cant beat 1st season. Gets 9/10 overall from me.
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09-28-11, 8:35 AM

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Damn Endou and that old man....and Kaiji is such a retard for gambling the money away -.- Well it's better that he has none anyway or he'd be in debt again.
1st season is still the best but hearing the first season op at the end was just nostalgic! The ending couldn't have gotten better :) 9/10. Wonder when s3 will come out :<
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09-28-11, 9:06 AM

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Kaiji, the eternal loser ;D.

For a final ep. it was awesome.

9/10

I want 3rd season! ;_;
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09-28-11, 9:16 AM

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can't wait for 3rd season T_T
 
09-28-11, 10:02 AM

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finally over ! now need Kaiji s3 or Zero Anime !!!
 
09-28-11, 10:40 AM

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I lol'ed when Kaiji lost his part playing Pachinko. He's still such an idiot xD. I was just waiting for Endou to betray him. I'd go to the bank asap after getting all that cash. He's probably going to try to get revenge in season 3.
I don't think the break between seasons will be as long as last time, considering that Kaiji seems to be really popular in Japan nowadays. So I say 2 years.
 
09-28-11, 11:50 AM

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That was a great ending episode for the second season, I can't wait for the third one to start...
Oh, and Kaiji really is an eternal loser...with a great heart and lots of luck...
 
09-28-11, 12:18 PM

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The ending was great.
I can´t wait for a 3rd season!!!
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09-28-11, 12:27 PM

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It was great season finale, episode 25 was just good, I didn't even cry.

9/10 - season
 
09-28-11, 2:31 PM

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purplegem7 said:
Kaiji's definitely moe!



Moe moe Kyu~n

Wow great end! I loved how they put the 1º season OP ^^
I wan't the 3rd season so badly!!!!

9/10
 
09-28-11, 3:50 PM

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Fantastic episode. Finally a feel good ending to Kaiji! And it still leaves things open for a season 3 too, awesome.
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09-28-11, 4:32 PM

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Am I the only one here who didn't like the 2nd season? It's not shitty by any means but it sucks compared to the 1st season. I mean there were like two games, that dice thingy and pachinko, and neither of them were really entertaining (especially if compared to the life threatening games in S1). Also Kaiji makes such a big deal about repaying his friends and then just wastes the money on pachinko? Hasn't he learned anything from his mistakes? No character development at all it seems. On top of that there's a sucky side cast with that old man crying even more than Kaiji and Ichijou, who's personality is completely shallow and childish ("I was treated bad in the past so I must rise to power and hurt everyone" HURR DURR). Also, who didn't see some kinda backlash coming the very MOMENT Kaiji (against better knowing) signed yet another shady contract from Endouh? It was so called for that he'd end up with nearly no money again... Maybe I'm a bit to harsh here, but I am really disappointed and can't rate this higher than 5/10. It has "mediocre" written all over it and it wasn't keeping me on the edge of my seat, as I was used to from S1.
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09-28-11, 4:37 PM

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Am I the only one here who didn't like the 2nd season? It's not shitty by any means but it sucks compared to the 1st season. I mean there were like two games, that dice thingy and pachinko, and neither of them were really entertaining (especially if compared to the life threatening games in S1). Also Kaiji makes such a big deal about repaying his friends and then just wastes the money on pachinko? Hasn't he learned anything from his mistakes? No character development at all it seems. On top of that there's a sucky side cast with that old man crying even more than Kaiji and Ichijou, who's personality is completely shallow and childish ("I was treated bad in the past so I must rise to power and hurt everyone" HURR DURR). Also, who didn't see some kinda backlash coming the very MOMENT Kaiji (against better knowing) signed yet another shady contract from Endouh? It was so called for that he'd end up with nearly no money again... Maybe I'm a bit to harsh here, but I am really disappointed and can't rate this higher than 5/10. It has "mediocre" written all over it and it wasn't keeping me on the edge of my seat, as I was used to from S1.




It surely isnt as good as s1, but I still loved it.
I honestly think I would have like s2 just as much as s1 if I would have waited for it to finish airing haha.

But I do prefer the s2 ending over the s1 ending.
This episode was too damn good.

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09-28-11, 5:14 PM

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The Bog arc was very intense and exciting. 9/10.

This is a candidate for best series of 2011, in my book.
 
09-28-11, 5:53 PM

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Was anyone a little pissed off that Kaiji blew the left over winnings after freeing everyone on pachinko? Really? You just almost lost your life to slavery because of your gambling and the first thing you do is go back to it. What happened to his resolve to turn his life around at the beginning of season 2? Other than that it was the ending I hoped for. I 'm surprised to hear there is going to be a season 3 given this felt like closure on kaiji. Anyway 9/10.
 
09-28-11, 6:11 PM

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Well, that blows that he's still poor even after wining against the Bog. At least he's debt free now I guess, but he will probably get into another mess again.
 
09-28-11, 7:23 PM

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Just for the everyone's reference, 100,000 YEN is just $1000....

Secondly, the grand majority of Pachinko machines are nothing like the bog. You spend about $100 and get back $70-$80 if you screw up or if you're lucky you make about $120-$200 back and get a little back. It's a convenient way in urban Japan to spend a little money and kill time.

Yes, Kaiji is a loser but you guys make it sound like him playing pachinko again is some huge crime. There's a big difference between playing a $1000 per play slot machine versus a penny slot. He's just killing time.
 
09-29-11, 12:57 AM

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Mindhaxor said:
Am I the only one here who didn't like the 2nd season? It's not shitty by any means but it sucks compared to the 1st season. .


You are not alone , season 1 was way better imo.

this was Ok , but season 1 was godlike for me...

6/10.
 
09-29-11, 3:52 AM

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I was disappointed with this season as well. Mostly because the bog arc took forever and lost its excitement/intensity fairly early... also wasn't the most interesting thing to begin with. At least it had a great final episode, very satisfying.

Edges out a 7/10.
 
09-29-11, 5:18 AM

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Who says grown men don't cry?

Absolutely loved s1's OP at the end!

Loved the series.
 
09-29-11, 6:18 AM

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On top of that there's a sucky side cast with that old man crying even more than Kaiji and Ichijou, who's personality is completely shallow and childish ("I was treated bad in the past so I must rise to power and hurt everyone" HURR DURR).

Hey, don't be harsh on Sakazaki! He's one of the best characters. He manages to bring comedy into an otherwise serious anime while still feeling realistic.

I can't help but agree on Ichijou, though. It feels like if he wasn't the closest Fukumoto has ever come to drawing a bishounen, he wouldn't be as popular. He's not half as competent and tragic as fangirls make him out to be either. I seriously hope he doesn't come back (I don't believe there has been any mention of him so far in series 3 or 4, but who knows what will happen?). Compared to Tonegawa, Funai or Otsuki, he's a bland fucking villain.

Also, if anyone has questions regarding series 3, I'm willing to answer them.
 
09-29-11, 6:33 AM

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Subjectykins said:
Also, if anyone has questions regarding series 3, I'm willing to answer them.


What is it about?
When will it air?
Where do you have your information from?
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09-29-11, 7:38 AM

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Mindhaxor said:
Subjectykins said:
Also, if anyone has questions regarding series 3, I'm willing to answer them.


What is it about?
When will it air?
Where do you have your information from?

1.
I can be a bit more specific if you'd like.
2. You seriously expect me to know that? I meant information about the manga, like what characters re-appear and what games there are. In other words, story-related questions. I have no idea when it's getting an adaptation.
3. I'm reading part 3 right now.
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09-29-11, 10:07 AM

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Great ending.

Go 45s! Really nice that they freed Ishida.
 
09-29-11, 11:22 AM

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This idiot had to waste his money in the casino... when will he ever learn !?

Good thing the black suit guy was nice to him.
 
09-29-11, 1:02 PM

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this was a good ending. Endou pretty much played kaiji but Kaiji did accomplish what he wanted.

This season was great just didn't cover as much as the 1st
 
09-29-11, 3:26 PM

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Wait a second...

1). 600 yen is around 6$. He blew that on pachinko? Big deal.
2). The guy in the suit gave him 30 yen. That's 30 cents. "Hey buddy, here's 30 cents, don't hold back on your celebration!"
3). Akagi is now a hotel owner?
4). Didn't Kaiji get at least a little suspicious that Endou had a pre-made contract for Kaiji buying him 3 beers in case he goes underground? Sakazaki didn't say a word?
5). Why are you saying that Endou is scum? If he was scum, he would've made the contract say that Kaiji should give him all the winnings and owe him a 100 million on top.

Also, as far as I know the character of Kaiji was based on Stu Ungar. Look him up. Basically, he is a genius in a life-or-death situation, but outside of the battlefield? He loses his wits, loses his compass and slips down into the abyss of hell - all the while ruining himself by being too nice of a guy for his own good.
 
09-29-11, 9:42 PM

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Wait a second...

1). 600 yen is around 6$. He blew that on pachinko? Big deal.
2). The guy in the suit gave him 30 yen. That's 30 cents. "Hey buddy, here's 30 cents, don't hold back on your celebration!"

It was 600000 yen which is 6000 dollars. The guy gave him 30000 which is 300 dollars and it is enough to buy food for everyone.
 
09-29-11, 11:30 PM

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loved it
i hope S3 will be air soon
10/10
 
09-30-11, 3:09 AM

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3). Akagi is now a hotel owner?

Don't think too much about that, it's just a reference.

Besides, if you've read Ten, you should know that...
 
09-30-11, 6:37 PM

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Am I the only one here who didn't like the 2nd season? It's not shitty by any means but it sucks compared to the 1st season. I mean there were like two games, that dice thingy and pachinko, and neither of them were really entertaining (especially if compared to the life threatening games in S1). Also Kaiji makes such a big deal about repaying his friends and then just wastes the money on pachinko? Hasn't he learned anything from his mistakes? No character development at all it seems. On top of that there's a sucky side cast with that old man crying even more than Kaiji and Ichijou, who's personality is completely shallow and childish ("I was treated bad in the past so I must rise to power and hurt everyone" HURR DURR). Also, who didn't see some kinda backlash coming the very MOMENT Kaiji (against better knowing) signed yet another shady contract from Endouh? It was so called for that he'd end up with nearly no money again... Maybe I'm a bit to harsh here, but I am really disappointed and can't rate this higher than 5/10. It has "mediocre" written all over it and it wasn't keeping me on the edge of my seat, as I was used to from S1.



You're gonna hate season 3 then....

The entire season is one loooooong Mahjong match.


And how are the games not exciting? The only exciting game in season 1 was the Paper-Scissor rock thing. That's it. Everything after that was just idiotic. The crossing bridges thing was way out there/unrealistic. The sadistic card game was ok, and then the tissue box nonsense.

Season 2, you had the awesome bog gambling to start things off, and then you move on to real gambling, trying cheat a machine that can't be beaten. It's more realistic than the first season in my opinion
 
09-30-11, 7:01 PM

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Vanisher said:
Mindhaxor said:
Am I the only one here who didn't like the 2nd season? It's not shitty by any means but it sucks compared to the 1st season. .


You are not alone , season 1 was way better imo.

this was Ok , but season 1 was godlike for me...

6/10.


Me 2, the chinchiro part was cool 10/10 but the bog was too long.
 
09-30-11, 10:21 PM

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shitt i feel so bad for Kaiji. but atleast hes debt free...for now. really hoping for another season. Who knows how long it will be until i find another anime thats as intense as Kaiji.

It wasnt as good as season 1 but i still loved it.

10/10
 
10-01-11, 7:59 AM

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10/10 for me.He'll never get rich. He'll only make enough to get through.
 
10-01-11, 8:32 AM

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shitt i feel so bad for Kaiji. but atleast hes debt free...for now. really hoping for another season. Who knows how long it will be until i find another anime thats as intense as Kaiji.

It wasnt as good as season 1 but i still loved it.

10/10


Intense as Kaiji : Death note and One Outs as Anime

Liar Game TV - Drama is a very very amazing psychological series
 
10-01-11, 5:35 PM

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Season 2, you had the awesome bog gambling to start things off


Theres nothing awesome about the bog.
 
10-01-11, 6:03 PM

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Can't wait for season 3. Kaiji season 1 and 2 were so over the top that it's hard not to love it all.


 
10-02-11, 8:26 AM

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Restricted Janken > The Bog > Chinchirorin > E-Card >>> Human Derby >>> AMAZING box

That's how I would rate the arcs so far. I understand why people who didn't marathon this like I did would think it was too slow, but for me this season was just as good as the first one. Sure, the first one did have the most awesome gamble (restricted janken), but also the worst ones (human derby and amazing box). The human derby was kinda creepy I guess, but there were no tactics or mind games or strategies or anything like that involved (except for the stairs in the end maybe). Maybe the bog was slow, but at least the concept was awesome.

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Theres nothing awesome about the bog.


Thank you, I think we've understood your opinion by now. It's not that interesting when we've read it 100 times already.
 
10-02-11, 8:42 AM

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Good conclusion to the series. The first season is still better in my opinion, as it really focused on not only the psychology of desperation, but also how cruel and inhumane we can be to our fellow man, whereas this one seemed to play more to the "Kaiji outsmarts his opponent" angle with a few flashes of S1 brilliance thrown in.
 
10-02-11, 9:25 AM

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Marathoned this series last night... It was very epic, but a part of me wishes I had never read the manga before hand... I think it cost me a unique experience. The manga was very amazing, and when I originally read through it, it was by far my favorite story of all time. Watching the anime, I realized the suspense of the bog just wasn't the same after knowing what's going to happen.

So I'm really mixed here. It's hard to say amazing things when the enjoyment factor was lower than it could have been. It was the same as the manga, and I rated that very highly and knew it as my favorite story of all time, but since the series doesn't really have rewatch/reread value, I enjoyed the anime less. Anime is my favorite form of media. The music, sound effects, and animation usually make it much more powerful than manga, in my opinion. So I think I've effectively ruined what could have been one of my favorite animes of all time, just by having read the manga.

Very sad here. Very sad.

Oh, I liked that above guys idea of rating the arcs. Here's mine:
Bog > Chinchirorin > E-Card > Human Derby > Restricted Rock Paper Scissors > This box is awesome

For the record, all of them ridiculously epic.
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10-02-11, 10:52 AM

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I just freaking loved this ending. And it actually has some pretty good character development for Kaiji.
We got to see what kind of a man he really is. Never backing down from his word, even if all the odds are stacked against him. Because he gets screwed over on a daily basis he knows better than anyone to never ever break the promises he makes.
It really shows character.

But then there is also the sad pathetic human part of him. Kaiji is, and always will be a loser. That's what makes him so human. He gets 1 break and immediately thinks thing will turn out in his favor. This fault is also a very human trait. He's not the ultimate gamber, but the ultimate surviver.

A great man, but a very sad and hopeless fool as well. And that's what makes him so interesting.
 
10-02-11, 4:23 PM

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The only thing I can think of to say is:

Most satisfying fucking ending ever.

So happy I decided not to read the manga until after the anime ended. If I hadn't seen it animated first then I might not have loved S2 as much as I did.
I've got this burnin' like my veins are filled with nothin' but gasoline.
 
10-02-11, 9:19 PM

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nice ending

 
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