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Feb 27, 2011 10:49 PM
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THIS IS A MANGA ONLY DISCUSSION POST. DO NOT DISCUSS ANYTHING BEYOND THIS CHAPTER.
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So, D4C's ability is finally revealed. Let the mindfuck begin!
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Mar 3, 2011 4:16 AM
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Okay, we've seen a lot confusing Stand abilities over the course of all volumes, but this tops it all. Mindfuck indeed. Too bad I spoiled myself about D4C's ability being about interacting with parallel worlds.

So in the alternate universes Wekapipo and Dio did shoot Johnny and only in the "real" universe it was Valentine? But if that was the case, how did Wekapipo and Dio from the real universe know that they shot him? Do they share memories?

Which version of the prez did Johnny see behind Gyro?

I have absolutely no idea what exactly happened..
Mar 9, 2011 2:43 AM
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Tharand said:
Okay, we've seen a lot confusing Stand abilities over the course of all volumes, but this tops it all.

Well, not all.
For me King Crimson and D4C are on the same mindfuck level.
Mar 9, 2011 5:46 AM
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Rinso said:

For me King Crimson and D4C are on the same mindfuck level.


Okay, you do have a point there. I still don't really know just how King Crimson worked.
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May 15, 2011 2:32 PM
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What makes this most headache-inducing is that this part of the series is set in an alternate dimension anyway because of the climax of part 6 Stone Ocean!
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Dec 20, 2011 8:03 AM
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Re-reading this, knowing more about what D4C will turn into...this whole "who shot Johnny" thing makes no fucking sense. It isn't even coherent with D4C's ability.

Enabling Valentine to travel through the different dimensions and pulling other stuff with him is fine. "Allowing neighboring worlds to exist simultaneously in the same location" my ass. This was never brought up again lol.
But then again this is Jojo. So let's just say "because Araki" and I have nothing I can complain about.
Feb 10, 2016 12:56 AM
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Cool stand Mr. President, but I'm not so sure if the ability is very powerful in a stand duel.
Feb 21, 2016 5:46 PM
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And people found King Crimson confusing...
I still don't understand what's happening, I only hope Dio is still alive.
Jun 8, 2016 1:48 AM
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I think this is pretty cool, confusing yeah but I kind of like that feeling.

I do wonder what ever happened to Valentine's two henchmen that kind of had his same hairstyle though.
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Jan 1, 2017 12:42 AM

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Woah, D4C is more confusing than King Crimson.
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JoJo fans: King Crimson is the most confusing Stand

Araki: Hahaha *hits blunt* get a load of this
Nov 26, 2017 4:05 AM

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Good job Araki, you really know how to make your fans go crazy.
May 13, 2018 2:13 AM

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Fans: King Crimson is the most confusing stand

Araki: Hold my beer

This whole chapter was a complete mindfuck
Sep 16, 2018 7:42 AM

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Thank God I'm not the only one that's confuse by this all of this haha.
Dec 12, 2018 12:10 AM

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I still think King Crimson was more confusing
Aug 1, 2020 1:40 PM

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I kinda understand how this Stand works like. It basically merges events of neighboring universes and allows Valentine to penetrate a small part of multiverse and mix other variations of events into his main timeline (the one that Valentine currently lives at).
Aug 27, 2020 8:47 AM

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lmao they're already in an alternate universe cause of Pucci and now this shit
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Oct 16, 2020 3:56 AM

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Mid Fuck time!!!

I cannot wait to hear that line in the Anime in Japanese- "DAATI DEEDSU DAAN DAARTO CHEEPU"
I really ish they use the same VA as Sosuke Aizen for Valentine's role. That line will be so fucking badass then.
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Jan 11, 2021 2:31 PM
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The villains get more confusing by the part. Stops time; reverse time, but only to create a specific time loop and you can't remember anything that was reversed; erases time; control the universes gravity in a way to speed up the time of the entire universe in order to create a new alternate universe where everyone knew their fate' and now allowing different parts of different parallel worlds to exist in the same world in a really mindfuck-y way
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Now the "who shot Mr. Burns" mistery has been solved.

Wait no, that was an other one... nvm
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Being able to turn objects into portals to an alternate reality is already useful enough but D4C just had to make it a lot more complicated than that by manipulating parallel realities to converge like that. I'd be lying if I said that I wasn't as confused as Diego and Wekapipo are lmao








Aug 22, 2021 8:08 AM

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I am so fucking confused.......
Sorry for my english xD!

RIP Kentaro Miura :(
RIP Akira Toriyama :(

Dec 24, 2021 6:30 PM

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i got headache from reading this chapter help

i hope it's more understandable when it's adapted
Oct 8, 2022 9:52 PM

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this is confusing as hell but i can still understand some of it

thank god im not the only one whos confused by valentines ability
Dec 11, 2022 11:38 PM
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Chapter 69 is a good number and all but what the hell is going on with Valentines stand? I'm very confused.
Apr 16, 2023 8:31 PM
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It's total mindf*ck and I love it
May 22, 2023 2:29 PM

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Araki and these confusing stands lmfao
Oct 6, 2023 8:35 AM
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Holy shit I understand so much more but I am also even more confused LMAO D4C is absolutely nuts
Nov 19, 2023 11:22 PM

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This whole arc just keeps getting nuttier and nuttier.

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