DO NOT discuss the source material beyond this episode. If you want to discuss future events or theories, please use separate threads.
DO NOT ask where to watch/download this episode or give links to copyrighted, non-fair use material.
DO NOT troll/bait/harass/abuse other users for liking or disliking the series/characters.
DO read the Anime Discussion Rules and Site & Forum Guidelines.
DO NOT ask where to watch/download this episode or give links to copyrighted, non-fair use material.
DO NOT troll/bait/harass/abuse other users for liking or disliking the series/characters.
DO read the Anime Discussion Rules and Site & Forum Guidelines.
unclesnapple said: This was a good episode. Evil Walt Disney meets anime. How often do you get to see that? This episode hearkens back to the stories about the blonde guy and the shape-shifter. Each of them was like the god of their own town but screwed everything up. Seeing as how Re-l's grandfather (or at least the people who speak for him) want to use proxies as a god, these episodes illustrate the folly of that kind of thinking. Plus, from a stylistic standpoint, it's good to see the awkward mish-mash of old-school western cartoons and 21st century anime. The recent passing of Walter Cronkite gave me the impression that the Proxy at smile land was more like a mix of Walt Disney and Walter Cronkite! I saw Cronkite's TV shots in the 60's and he does look like someone I saw from a Japanese anime. |
| "We practice selective annihilation of mayors and government officials, for example, to create a vacuum, then we fill that vacuum. As popular war advances, peace is closer" |
| Yes, it has lots of fillers.... so? I still feel like every episode of this anime is worth watching. So enjoyable :3 Disney refereeeence.... |
  |
| Liked it. This anime has some surprises for the viewer. One proxy can do all this... And Pino was useful for something! But how can Pino get dizzy?! Good idea. |
| God it was so stupid xD But Pino is so cute *-* |
| Being clever can only go so far and this episode went over the line |
 |
| wtf is wrong with those mindfuck episodes. make them stop xD |
| I only liked the part when the dog guard says Holy Biscuit |
| . |
| If this was filler, then every series should strive to have filler this good. XD Perhaps it didn't advance the plot a lot, but it still had some significant ideas introduced. |
Frengers said: I don't think there was such an episode for no reason...though when I saw it I was like "WTF did I just watch?" Note to self:Always expect the unexpected while watching Ergo Proxy. Even cartoon characters! xD" Haha You're right. And even though I think it's weird to be totally off the story for no reason it was a pretty good filler episode. |
 |
| Fillers this late in the series? Srsly? Honestly though, I liked it. The animation of the FUR- ...cartoon animals looked nice, and Walt Disney was a rather great character also. |
-z-Aug 18, 2010 5:52 PM
| WTF was that all about?!?!?!? Hated it! |
 |
| Haha I really think this is a love/hate episode. You either hate roundabout Ergo Proxy episodes, or you love em' . I for one love how random and upbeat the show can be with such a drab background story. This anime isn't based on manga, so there are no actual "fillers". Everything serves a purpose in this anime :) I love the Disneyland references. |
sunshinesan said: Pino's cuteness saved it. Otherwise it was kinda meh. Although it was still kinda meh. >.< |
| Really liked this episode. The extent a proxy would go to protect his own territory. PINE SMILES.... |
| Girl...smile... |
  |
| Pretty pointless episode, though it did have good meanings behind it, either way i am bored to death right now =.=zZZ |
| This episode felt like a space filler, but it did shed some interesting light on the question of pino's consiousness/cogito... Also, this director seems to LOVE shout-outs ( in episode 15, quiz show, was a shout-out/satire of the character "Q" from Star Trek: The Next Generation) and this one seems to show how much he loves disney's classic animation. |
Forough said: I like how it describes the way a proxy plays God for the world he creates but at the same time how it's not really perfect enough to be a flawless God. A God that has his own fears and despairs. Choosing a Disneyland theme to show how he controls his world and all the references were really clever. I really love how this anime tries different themes in many episodes. You have explained it interestingly there and I agree. If Will B. Good was a proxy then he just did an "inception" (yes the very same concept in Christopher Nolan's eponymous 2010 film, Inception) on Pino to divert Vincent coming to Smileland. Besides I'm extremely biased when it comes to Pino. XD :P |
| You see there's no need to wonder where your god is, Coz he's right here! ...and he's fresh out of mercy. |
| Boring episode, enough with the fillers. |
UllusMay 3, 2011 10:01 AM
A man of few words. |
Forough said: I liked this episode. I like how it describes the way a proxy plays God for the world he creates but at the same time how it's not really perfect enough to be a flawless God. A God that has his own fears and despairs. Choosing a Disneyland theme to show how he controls his world and all the references were really clever. I really love how this anime tries different themes in many episodes. Huh. I really disliked it, but the return to normal at the end saved it. It reminded me of Paprika. It was kawaii, and showed an insight into Japanese family life. I knew it was going to be creepy, but I still found it annoying as heck. I didn't want to watch it, but I did. |
unclesnapple said: This was a good episode. Evil Walt Disney meets anime. How often do you get to see that? This episode hearkens back to the stories about the blonde guy and the shape-shifter. Each of them was like the god of their own town but screwed everything up. Seeing as how Re-l's grandfather (or at least the people who speak for him) want to use proxies as a god, these episodes illustrate the folly of that kind of thinking. Plus, from a stylistic standpoint, it's good to see the awkward mish-mash of old-school western cartoons and 21st century anime. I found it really disturbing and annoying. If I want to watch Western cartoons, I'll watch Western cartoons. Then again, it fits into the story. I didn't write the story, I'm only the audience, so I can't really complain. Life is far more disturbing then a cartoon. ;) |
Baphomet said: some12b said: Well, aside from the fact that when proxies meet they fight and eventually one of them kills the other. I think this episode of ergo proxy tries to explain Pinocchio from a different point of view. This. Plus, there's a closer look at Pino. We now see that she realizes the worth of relationships. Ah, so its a given that when proxies meet they fight and only one can survive. Interesting. I still found the episode creepy and disturbing, and not in a good way. I hate it when people tell you to "smile". The thought of "smile land" unnerves me. The adults discussing Pino's smile at the fair unsettled me. Is that why people have children, so they can watch them smile? |
SilentSympathy said: sunshinesan said: Pino's cuteness saved it. Otherwise it was kinda meh. Although it was still kinda meh. >.< Actually I don't like it when Pino's turned into some kind of kawaii doll. I find that disturbing. I'm not looking for cute. If I was, I wouldn't be watching ergo proxy. |
| Be thankful for these fillers! Otherwise this awesome show would only have 21 episodes... |
| Huh ? what a weird episode :P Sent with Mal Updater |
( Currently interested in OP MC genre. Recommendations are welcomed, preferable those yet not on my list ) |
| What's with you people? Do you realize that a robot like Pino just had a dream? That she is more than a robot with a 'smile' function? Or that smileland is not what it is, a place with superficial grins. It's better enough that Pino is over adorable. It's not that bad of a filler, there's worst. |
| Fan of mature, dark, non-cutesy school uniformed choked fan service BS anime. |
| Felt like I was watching something from Satoshi Kon. |
 |
| Another filler episode, I just skipped most of it half way through, and this anime lost my interest again... |
 |
| This episode didn't disappoint. Pretty much confirmed my doubts that Proxies can really enter dreams such as the mindscrew episode with the bookstore. And the theme here did surprised me. Same with the MCQ. |
| I thought it would be shit but at the end it wasn't so bad |
-------Only God will judge me -------- iSignature |
aero said: Lol me too, finished it yesterday, but i actually liked itMan, I'm getting tired from watching pointless episodes. I just spent 50min watching eps 25,26 of Eva and now this?? >__> |
 |
| Wow, that was the best thing this show has done so far. |
| It was much better than the quiz episode. It was weird and funny. I liked the feeling that something is not okay with surrounding (nothing new in the series), why in this dream she hears questions about Re-l, Vincent ? And the end of the episode, why did he choose to change the path ? Did he knew that Pino was right ? Maybe it was his 'inner' Proxy that was asking Pino for an answer about his weakness ? Then, why would it make any sense ? ahhhh ... :) |
| I love this episode, everything about it. All the references, humors, and philosophical undertones were great. So, we have more confirmation on two things: Proxies are God of each town, they maintains its life support but when they awake, they can cause destruction for that town. Secondly, Ergo Proxy is feared as an agent of death to these Proxies, so they always try to kill him first. Also, it was said that there were 300 Proxies created so it means that there were 300 towns at the beginning. I wonder what town Ergo Proxy was on charge of. |
 |
| I have nothing against fillers when atleast have something to do with the story. But this was ridiculous. |
 |
ThangLong said: I love this episode, everything about it. All the references, humors, and philosophical undertones were great. So, we have more confirmation on two things: Proxies are God of each town, they maintains its life support but when they awake, they can cause destruction for that town. Secondly, Ergo Proxy is feared as an agent of death to these Proxies, so they always try to kill him first. Also, it was said that there were 300 Proxies created so it means that there were 300 towns at the beginning. I wonder what town Ergo Proxy was on charge of. Maybe he was in charge of Mosque:O Great episode, loved the trippy disney thing going on, also I liked the fact that Pino can dream now that she's "infected" she's just like a human girl but with robot features;p |
| Didnt love the disney utopia feel of the episode, but there was a lot of information. The interesting part to me was that when proxy-es meet they fight. Then i figured that the quiz proxy killed 25 proxies because he said that before Vincent he played this game 25 times and never lost |
some12b said: Well, aside from the fact that when proxies meet they fight and eventually one of them kills the other. I think this episode of ergo proxy tries to explain Pinocchio from a different point of view. The fact that when Pino smiles is an almost unprescedented act in smile world, sets the mood that she in fact is more human than a puppet (of course this is due to the cogito virus). And the fact that the other "puppets" turn into real people at the will of their creator is just screaming Pinocchio. The fake, unreal, autoreivs or cartoonish people, have to mantain the circus of smiles in order to survive makes the smile world actually a very depressing world. Since there is no laughter without crying, no happines without saddenss. Never really enjoying anything since they're forced to fakelly enjoy everything. Thats why like Ergo Proxy, it's some deep $h1t Wow that's a really nice connection you made! Pino=Pinocchio? :o mind blown!!! This episode was kind of like a character development episode for Pino. I like how Viincent ends up listening to Pino and not stop at the town. Did anyone else think of Will.i.am when you find out the creator's name is Will.B.Good? o_O maybe it's just me. Btw, it's terrible that proxies have to kill each other when they meet, because that also means the whole town they built dies with them. The world of Ergo Proxy really is strange... |
pit_bull said: Yeah, I had a similar feeling during this episode. Mainly the jolting change of pace in these so called filler episodes has been annoying for me. I can appreciate the content, but the style seems out of place. So I found this episode kinda meh.If I want to watch Western cartoons, I'll watch Western cartoons. |
| Another filler like episode, well, at least it was better than Vince one... |
 |
More topics from this board
Poll: » Ergo Proxy Episode 3 Discussion ( 1 2 )xel - May 31, 2008 |
93 |
by LonewolfNBU
»»
Apr 12, 10:55 AM |
|
Poll: » Why do people seem to not like Ergo Proxy?TheGuiltMan - Nov 28, 2020 |
41 |
by oooo3333
»»
Mar 30, 12:12 AM |
|
Poll: » Ergo Proxy Episode 6 Discussion ( 1 2 )WinterNightsFall - Aug 20, 2008 |
78 |
by yojuno
»»
Mar 26, 10:41 AM |
|
Poll: » Ergo Proxy Episode 5 Discussion ( 1 2 )WinterNightsFall - Aug 20, 2008 |
71 |
by yojuno
»»
Mar 26, 12:23 AM |
|
» Ergo Proxy Episode 15 Discussion ( 1 2 3 4 5 )Aokaado - Dec 27, 2006 |
236 |
by llamav
»»
Mar 18, 12:42 PM |