SeijiSensei said: SpaceHamster said: Because the hate is real it seems. I think it's the contingent that thinks it's somehow cool to dismiss Crunchyroll in favor of illegal streams and torrents. Because, you know, anime is produced by magical fairies who never need to eat. Lol the starving artist argument. cenkiss said: Phyleron said: CR earned it's bad reputation in the past. It's changed a lot, but reputations don't fade quickly. 1. They were actual thieves, earning profit from streaming anime illegally. Most of the anime community follows fansubs of unlicensed series, where a free translation service is provided for sharing a series among fellow fans. The DVDRip community is separate from the fansubbers, and even then the rippers usually encourage financially supporting series you like. 2. CR not only made money off stealing shows, they stole fansubs and made money off them, claiming the stolen fansubs as their own without even bothering to strip the subber tags. CR made money from stealing shows, which is anathema to everything the anime community follows. 3. CR was a ripoff, streaming crappy quality video as they committed the above offenses. So not only was it morally offensive, they didn't even have the decency to do a good job of it. 4. The CR forum community was a cesspool. Enough said. That's the past that earned CR the bad reputation. The new CR has different issues: 5. The thieves converted to "legal" - i.e. still trying to rip people off to make money off anime that would have been shared freely otherwise 6. They don't publish DVDs, so anything they license is dead in the water in terms of anime collections. DVDs have been the traditional route of non-Japanese fans financially supporting anime they enjoy, so this also interferes with that. 7. Their quality is still pretty crappy. The translations on various shows have had blatant errors, poor editing, and are generally shoddy compared to the quality of most of the top fansub groups. 8. CR has been poaching series by offering to be "cheap and easy" licensing and profit, basically the Chinese Outsourcing of licensing companies. This makes it tougher for the core licensing companies, like Funimation, etc., to survive and thrive. While what they offer isn't really too bad, and probably seems pretty spiffy to the Youtube Newbies who still stream anime and have just discovered CR, money paid to them pretty much stops there. You're not financially supporting your favorite series, you're not supporting the US anime industry, and you're just helping to eat away at the foundations of the strong anime community that has been supporting the entire US anime industry since the start. Watching anime on TV (like on Toonami when it was awesome), being vocal about your support for series, buying DVDs and secondary goods, and drawing in others to anime fandom are ways to actually support the US and Japanese anime industries. Subscribing to CR does not make you morally righteous compared to the "thieves" who watch fansubs and buy DVDs and other goods. And, amusingly, CR gets poached now in the same way they did before, with numerous stream-ripping groups posting torrents for all of their 480p and 720p show streams. Except those groups don't scam money off of it. I don't particularly hate CR, but I don't think it deserves such glowing praise from people who only heard of it recently. There is no difference between watching anime on tv or in crunchyroll streaming. Most anime don't come to tv. Tv is limited. Actually streaming is better for anime industry since they can know how many people watched the show and they can directly profit with ads or subscriptions. Why do need to wait hours to download stuff that i will watch only once ? If it takes you "hours" to download stuff then you need a better internet service. |
| I have a crunchyroll membership and I'd say that I enjoy having it. It's really nice to watch some anime on my TV in high quality. I don't like it as much on my computer because sometimes it lags though. But I really just wanna support the anime industry in any way I can, and it's only $6.95 a month so it's nothing much. |
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| Crunchyroll is awesome(well except the name lol), and this is the first time I ever heard of there being people hating on Crunchyroll. |
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| They basically make you pay for ad-free Anime and latest one while you can get them from horriblesubs. |
| Main reason I love CR is because I can stream their shows from my smartphone to my TV using their handy little app. It's just nice being able to browse through anime on my phone and then cast it to the TV. Simple and convenient. |
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| I hate crunchyroll because I have no access to it in Australia. |
FahtahSensei said: I hate crunchyroll because I have no access to it in Australia. [spoiler]Spring 2015 simulcast http://myanimelist.net/forum/?topicid=1368266&show=0 Crunchyroll
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OkiuraApr 19, 2015 1:28 AM
Okiura said: FahtahSensei said: I hate crunchyroll because I have no access to it in Australia. [spoiler]Spring 2015 simulcast http://myanimelist.net/forum/?topicid=1368266&show=0 Crunchyroll
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Hanabee (Oceania) Ok I will check out animelab and hanabee. Cheers. |
| Horrible subs have more horrible subs. |
FahtahSensei said: Okiura said: [spoiler]Spring 2015 simulcast http://myanimelist.net/forum/?topicid=1368266&show=0 Crunchyroll
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Hanabee (Oceania) Ok I will check out animelab and hanabee. Cheers. Good luck. You'll get locked out of most of the series then. |
Drunk_Samurai said: FahtahSensei said: Ok I will check out animelab and hanabee. Cheers. Good luck. You'll get locked out of most of the series then. Eh...That's why torrents. |
| I don't know why, maybe because they want a subscription to watch add free and in full HD? Personally I love them, £5 a month for as much anime and manga as I want? personally I'd say its a steal! :D |
| Anime is life!! ^.^ Check out my YouTube channel!: www.youtube.com/SaiyanKakashi |
| Trialed Crunchyroll twice. First time I constantly had loading/video issues, never happened with pirate sites Second time, same thing but videos did not even have freaking subtitles |
| My old Japan blog which I'm never going to finish: https://ramenshojo.wordpress.com/2016/08/07/day-6-nakano-broadway-harmonica-street-zauo-restaurant/ |
| It's good on ps4 but they don't have shit. Hulu even has more |
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| Who needs Shittyroll when you have KissAnime? Also that shit doesn't let me stream ANY anime in my region so I'm part of the people that dislike it/hate it for a reason! |
| When I'm fucked up that's the real me |
retrogamer32x said: The one thing I would just mention again, reading this thread, is that CR is not the only - or necessarily best - legal way to watch anime online. There's no reason to say "Oh I had issue x with CR, I have no choice but to pirate". Buying anime or manga in physical format seems like a better option. |
| Because torrenting anime is way superior. |
| CR is pretty decent if you want to stream your series legally. otherwise, what above said. |
| You can buy lossless digital music from your favorite Japanese artists on https://ototoy.jp/. The songs are all DRM-free and you can re-download your purchased albums as you wish. Show your support to your favorite artist if you can! ps. if you are looking for Japanese albums, you have to search it in Japanese (not romaji). Just copy and paste the name. For those who want to learn Japanese through anime Resources for learning the language |
offmodel said: The one thing I would just mention again, reading this thread, is that CR is not the only - or necessarily best - legal way to watch anime online. There's no reason to say "Oh I had issue x with CR, I have no choice but to pirate". And the other legal sites all have region locking issues too. So yes there is a reason to say "I have no choice but to pirate." |
offmodel said: Drunk_Samurai said: And the other legal sites all have region locking issues too. So yes there is a reason to say "I have no choice but to pirate." I said in another post I don't have a problem with the people in other regions, it's just that you have a lot of my fellow 'Muricans on here who say something like "The sub format on CR is awful, I guess I have to pirate." or "The CR stream is choppy a lot of the time, I have to pirate." I will say it again: If you are in a country where you can't legally stream, do what you've gotta do. The thing I worry about more is that if the industry doesn't get supported, I don't think it will go quietly. It'll go kicking and screaming (suing torrenters a la FUNi on a much larger scale), which isn't going to apply to just Americans. This is happening right now with some movie studios (just google Voltage Pictures), they're turning piracy into a cottage industry. I would hate to see that happen to anime. Industry isn't going to die. I'll just use IRC again if they tried to sue torrenters. Plus there are always private trackers if you can get in. |
offmodel said: Drunk_Samurai said: Industry isn't going to die. I'll just use IRC again if they tried to sue torrenters. Plus there are always private trackers if you can get in. I'd rather not get into all that, but IRC and torrents were always for n00bs. I'm more worried about the fact that you have kids on here who will end up getting their parents sued if/when that happens, hopefully it doesn't. Plus, creators deserve some compensation, damnit. Explain how IRC is for noobs. It tastes way more work to use IRC and finding what you need. Even more so if you choose to run a fserv yourself. Send the kids my way and I'll teach them how to use IRC. |
| Compensation would be the pirates buying the blurays maybe at an increased price. |
 Anime is good, fucking deal with it. |
black1blade said: Compensation would be the pirates buying the blurays maybe at an increased price. Better than overpricing the fines like 800,000 per song. offmodel said: Drunk_Samurai said: Explain how IRC is for noobs. No. Oh so you were trolling then. Carry on. |
| I don't like the interface very much. |
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| Because so much is locked away from non-muricans. And I'm a non-murican |
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| Region lock issues. |
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Chirikatori said: They have no money. End of discussion. You are deluded if you honestly believe it's simply a money issue. There are plenty of people here who could afford to buy and/or support the Anime industry, and don't. Also, Crunchyroll provides a product that is inferior to pirating or buying physical releases. It's a convenient stream service, especially if you are using it on your tv. Blu-ray or a high quality torrent file are superior to a high quality stream. I used to be a subscriber, but I don't see that happening anytime soon. Crunchyroll definitely has a market and it's not a bad service. It's just not the best way to watch Anime. EDIT: I do wish more people would experience Anime on Blu-ray to understand quality differences... |
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| It's been mentioned in this thread before, but some of us don't watch on a regular basis. I myself read more than watch to begin with, and I also check out all the physical manga I want from my library. It seems silly to me to pay $60 for a year for something I won't even use a lot. |
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| Because it costs money. |
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| I like CR. I'm too broke to buy a subscription though, even if it's only $7/month I'm a teenager who blows money on other stuff... and gas. |
| Because I'm a pauper. |
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offmodel said: Drunk_Samurai said: Oh so you were trolling then. Carry on. I was not, but if you don't know, then you probably haven't been online very long and I'm not going to post about it on an open forum. Sorry. You claimed IRC was "noob level" without even responding to my actual post. My post shows exactly how IRC wouldn't be "noob" level. |
| They can't actually track what is downloaded or uploaded on IRC. Only the amount of data. Plus that shit is incredibly old. It's from 2002. Roadrunner doesn't even exist anymore technically. |
oktavia-12 said: It's been mentioned in this thread before, but some of us don't watch on a regular basis. I myself read more than watch to begin with, and I also check out all the physical manga I want from my library. It seems silly to me to pay $60 for a year for something I won't even use a lot. Just because you don't use or endorse a service doesn't mean you should hate it. |
| I love CR, but my internet is so shit I can barely stream anything. I torrent more nowadays overnight, or buy the actual DVD/BR. Also cause it's paid. |
Rance-sama said: oktavia-12 said: It's been mentioned in this thread before, but some of us don't watch on a regular basis. I myself read more than watch to begin with, and I also check out all the physical manga I want from my library. It seems silly to me to pay $60 for a year for something I won't even use a lot. Just because you don't use or endorse a service doesn't mean you should hate it. I don't see the word hate anywhere in her post. |
| At least CR stays ad free with the subscription. I'm paying for Hulu and still have to watch the same goddamn ads over and over again, lol. |
KingYoshiApr 28, 2015 2:19 AM
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KingYoshi said: At least CR stays ad free with the subscription. I'm paying for Hulu and still have to watch the same goddamn ads over and over again, lol. Adblock. |
Drunk_Samurai said: KingYoshi said: At least CR stays ad free with the subscription. I'm paying for Hulu and still have to watch the same goddamn ads over and over again, lol. Adblock. You can't Adblock Hulu |
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| I love using Crunchyroll, but it can be frustrating because of their limited content. I subscribe to both CR and FUNi, but sometimes you just can't do things legally for some shows. ex: Rainbow, Monster, Hajime no Ippo (first season), Haruhi, Code Geass.. I could go on and on. |
| Streaming in general doesn't let you easily your video renderign to fix issues like these: http://screenshotcomparison.com/comparison/70784 http://screenshotcomparison.com/comparison/70286 - https://github.com/mpv-player/mpv/wiki/Fixing-Simulcasts |
Rance-sama said: I don't hate it, I just don't personally use it, or think I should. Not saying it's evil and nobody should, if you don't have the region-lock and watch anime all the time, you can very well use it if you want to. Or don't. oktavia-12 said: It's been mentioned in this thread before, but some of us don't watch on a regular basis. I myself read more than watch to begin with, and I also check out all the physical manga I want from my library. It seems silly to me to pay $60 for a year for something I won't even use a lot. Just because you don't use or endorse a service doesn't mean you should hate it. I'm just saying why I personally don't use it. |
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Sonotoki said: Streaming in general doesn't let you easily your video renderign to fix issues like these: http://screenshotcomparison.com/comparison/70784 http://screenshotcomparison.com/comparison/70286 - https://github.com/mpv-player/mpv/wiki/Fixing-Simulcasts Still banding though. Banding is what will drive me to actually buy the Japanese blu rays for the HF movies. The Japanese market works on the assumption that people may buy 1 show that they really like a season and record the rest on tv. Tv really doesn't make them very much money and crunchy roll even less. |
Anime is good, fucking deal with it. |
| I love crunchyroll! |
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| Because some people don't want to pay for their anime. I pay for Crunchyroll because sometimes, I watch it through my PS3 instead of the computer. ^__^ |
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SecretDinosaur said: Because some people don't want to pay for their anime. I pay for Crunchyroll because sometimes, I watch it through my PS3 instead of the computer. ^__^ What if the person can't watch it on their PS3 or computer? |
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