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Apr 9, 2008 11:23 AM
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I wasn't surprised when Roberto showed up.
Found it kind of funny that Johan gave money for the prostitute to buy drugs, Johan the drug pimp xD
Next episode seems interesting, seems Runge will arrive at Munich.
Apr 21, 2008 12:23 AM
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Yeah, Johanne is really a sucker. Hahaha!

By the way, that Viatnamese doctor is really cute and beautiful. And to think that she is only 17 years old! *drools*

The ending sequence is really SUCKY! That guy singing sings retarded.
Jul 24, 2008 11:34 PM
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The wandering surgeon strikes again!!

...man i missed these ER episodes, thats the whole reason why im watching this mess :

Still think it's trying to do too much balancing elements of a hospital drama, crime drama, suspense movie, with a little weekday afternoon superhero show for good measure ("i dont know how to repay you, but thank you")

personally i think it shouldve stuck with the renegade surgeon idea and run with that because its only episode 33 and everyone dies the same, and everyone wants to exact revenge on their dead friend... its an endless chain. Hell even Tenma is a supporting character the past 14 episodes.


...the Vietnameese doctor was the hottest looking character so far. Even Johanns sister looks like a plain jane now.
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Dec 3, 2008 3:03 PM
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Cute doctor is cute.

I can't believe the fat prostitute tried to extort a serial killer, and thought she'd get away with it. You don't mess with the Johan.
Dec 26, 2008 9:13 PM
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lolwut maybe im just asian but i dont see it...

anyway it was interesting that he gave the hooker money. still so many episodes left and i don't know what will happen...it's good..
Jun 17, 2009 1:42 AM
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babykeiji said:
Yeah, Johanne is really a sucker. Hahaha!

By the way, that Viatnamese doctor is really cute and beautiful. And to think that she is only 17 years old! *drools*

The ending sequence is really SUCKY! That guy singing sings retarded.


1. that is not a guy..its an old lady actually
2. The music is creepy, psychadelic and amazing. The singing is beautiful. My opinion
eyerokJun 18, 2009 12:21 AM
"...our faces marked by toil, by deceptions, by success, by love; our weary eyes looking still, looking always, looking anxiously for something out of life, that while it is expected is already gone – has passed unseen, in a sigh, in a flash – together with the youth, with the strength, with the romance of illusions.” - Joseph Conrad ('Youth')
Aug 11, 2009 1:09 PM
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Why the hell does Roberto keep showing up? Is he working for Johan or being manipulated? That alleyway was damn creepy as well XD
Jan 31, 2010 9:49 AM
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So we got some more clues about the connection between Johan and Schuwald. It appears that Johan was making some kind of psychological experiment. But not on Schuwald, but on himself. Schuwald was only a tool to achieve that.
"What do you think is the greatest fear? I thought I had arrived at the darkest place of all, but beyond it I saw and even greater darkness." This is what Johan said to Blue Sophie. And I even saw REAL fear in his eyes when he was saying it. Is Johan afraid of "darkness"? Evil, inhumanity in other words. It seems that Johan understands his actions and caused consequences. The fact that it triggered fear inside Johan is somehow related to that book in the library. Is he considering his past an even greater evil than himself? Maybe he is even afraid of becoming THAT evil. The last words of Tenma were "I you are in the darkness, you'll sink into it". This quote kind of consolidates my previous interpretation. It could be that Johan has a mission or a goal, and he realizes what he is doing to accomplish it is wrong. But after seeing the book and remembering his past it seems he truly realized what he is becoming. He saw and even greater darkness - his future. He saw it with fear. We should expect some changes in his personality in my opinion.
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Feb 25, 2010 5:30 AM
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Nice episode and the ending SUCKS...
Sep 2, 2010 12:43 PM

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Man Temna is so nice :)
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Nov 13, 2010 11:31 AM

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Tenma is pissed cause shes underaged

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May 17, 2011 9:00 PM

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What a PIMP.
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Feb 3, 2012 8:01 AM
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Zell182 said:
Why the hell does Roberto keep showing up? Is he working for Johan or being manipulated? That alleyway was damn creepy as well XD

I thought it was established (well, implied) that he's working for Johan. He's done several things for him already, mainly murders. Although 'working' is a bit of a stretch. We all know Johan manipulates everyone to being on his side.
Mar 2, 2012 2:58 AM

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Tenma helped out again..
Mar 14, 2012 3:24 PM

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roberto again dammmmm
Sep 22, 2012 11:42 PM

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everyone is saying Johann is pure evil but seriously Roberto is probably pretty far up there, he tricks people into thinking that he is their best friend or lover then just mercilessly shoots them in the back.
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everyone is saying Johann is pure evil but seriously Roberto is probably pretty far up there, he tricks people into thinking that he is their best friend or lover then just mercilessly shoots them in the back.


*nods* Every time Roberto appears another person dies. I imagine the Jaws theme song playing whenever he walks into a room.
Dec 18, 2012 3:48 AM

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Good Episode.

About Episode:

So that woman who was with Johan in library told everything to Lotte. I am pretty sure after hearing this she will start investigating Johan more.

So Johan was working for that old lady who were only interesting about Schuwald's money and nothing else couldn't matter for her. "I thought I had arrived at the darkest place of all, but beyond it I saw and even greater darkness." The words Johan said meant probably that even Johan will fear himself.

Also we got explanation that Johan's goal is not Schuweld he were only using him. I wonder what is he real goal? And he is now trapped more and more in the darkness.

So Johan gave money to woman and moments later she was injured. Johan with balloon was funny part haha. Also looks like Robert is like Johan found everywhere pretending to be someone else. And betraying people.

That lady who was with Tenma in clinic operating that woman. Seemed like first she was the little girl who were training with Tenma. But no she was someone else. Also she wants to become doctor like Tenma. Maybe Tenma will marry her maybe not. Also Tenma's word: "I you are in the darkness, you'll sink into it". meant that Tenma try to save Johan maybe this Monster. He has inside of him.

The one thing is now sure Tenma isn't trapped wholely in the darkness like Johan is.

5/5
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Jan 28, 2013 4:28 PM

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I wonder what is Roberto's reason for helping Johan.

Apr 26, 2013 3:49 PM

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When a new character appears things get really interesting. And as usual Dr.Tenma is pro in his field. Johan was very kind for giving the prostitute the money for drugs.
Aug 19, 2013 8:39 AM
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Holding a balloon while giving a prostitute some money to buy drugs damn that's awesome oh and that nurse is cute and as usual Tenma helps again.
Oct 6, 2013 10:25 PM

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amazing episode as always!

lol Johan being visited by two ladies(Frank Lotte and Library girl)

such a sexy killer man XD

the alley was creepy as hell, drugged up lady, trumpet singing lady, and a balloon lady all in one corner O__O

lol that fake Margot Langer fat fuck didn't learn who she's dealing with.

she deserve being killed like that because of doing the same way she killed the real Margot Langer.

and lol Roberto seems to end up anywhere with any women around XD

the 17 year old doctor is a genius! being able to perform surgery at this young of age.

plus she's cute and lovely ^^

and i knew her voice actor is Houko Kuwashima!!! instantly recognize her voice!! such a lovely voice and person!!!

she's up there with Mamiko Noto(who's also Nina here)

and of course Tenma would save the day!! it seems he's decided now that he will kill Johan for good.

i hope Tenma does visit her sometime after this is over!

next episode it seems Lunger is back!!!
Dec 18, 2013 6:25 AM

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Woah another above average looking female other than Anna!?

And the balloon scene was epic.
May 22, 2014 11:06 AM

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I wonder why Johan collapsed. Was that because his personality changed?
cute doctor
looks like fatty, another important witness, is dead

good episode

May 28, 2014 4:43 AM

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Tenma is pissed cause shes underaged

eheheheheh not for me though. Can't believe I'll get to see a girl sexier than Anna.
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May 28, 2014 4:44 AM

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Mixxu said:
Good Episode.

About Episode:

So that woman who was with Johan in library told everything to Lotte. I am pretty sure after hearing this she will start investigating Johan more.

So Johan was working for that old lady who were only interesting about Schuwald's money and nothing else couldn't matter for her. "I thought I had arrived at the darkest place of all, but beyond it I saw and even greater darkness." The words Johan said meant probably that even Johan will fear himself.

Also we got explanation that Johan's goal is not Schuweld he were only using him. I wonder what is he real goal? And he is now trapped more and more in the darkness.

So Johan gave money to woman and moments later she was injured. Johan with balloon was funny part haha. Also looks like Robert is like Johan found everywhere pretending to be someone else. And betraying people.

That lady who was with Tenma in clinic operating that woman. Seemed like first she was the little girl who were training with Tenma. But no she was someone else. Also she wants to become doctor like Tenma. Maybe Tenma will marry her maybe not. Also Tenma's word: "I you are in the darkness, you'll sink into it". meant that Tenma try to save Johan maybe this Monster. He has inside of him.

The one thing is now sure Tenma isn't trapped wholely in the darkness like Johan is.

5/5

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Oct 5, 2014 1:26 AM

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Johan plays with kids, reads book to the elderly, and gives money to the poor. What a kind and caring individual he is~
Oct 17, 2014 9:21 PM

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^Ha... ._.;

The more we see of him, the more heavily Roberto seems to be connected to Johan. I'm growing curious about the implications that may hold. How did they meet, and what is the nature of their relationship? Why do they work together? How much does Roberto know? Does Johan trust him?

So many questions, so few answers. Somehow I think shooting Johan wouldn't be so simple, even if Tenma didn't mind killing him.
Feb 2, 2015 12:49 AM

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Glad that fat whorebag died. She deserved it. ROBERTO STRIKES AGAIN!

Makes me wonder why Roberto is murdering all those people for Johan. Must get paid a hefty amount of cash.

Seeing Johan ask for that balloon was strangely adorable.

Johan was quite generous giving that prostitute that money for drugs.

Holy shit a girl who is as cute as Ni- oh wait she's a minor.

I'm surprised no one has been suspicious of Tenma carrying that sniper.

Decent episode.

7/10

Feb 14, 2015 5:10 PM

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Seems like Johann changed. He is inside of more darkness now. That eyes when he said that words about darkness...
Mar 30, 2015 8:52 AM
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Damn, Johan scared that bitch good lol.

Good job Roberta for taking out that annoying old hag.

Dat random prostitute getting shot tho.
Apr 25, 2015 8:20 PM

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Celsia said:
Johan plays with kids, reads book to the elderly, and gives money to the poor. What a kind and caring individual he is~


I was actually going to comment on that duality Johan has going between being evil and being nice. I love it.
Jul 20, 2015 3:36 AM

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I liked this episode. Temna doing what he does best. Not much story at all in the last 3 eps though.
Jul 21, 2015 5:23 PM

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5/5
Aug 31, 2015 12:46 AM

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RIP fat lady
Aug 31, 2015 3:04 PM

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This episode just made me realize something: I can't fathom Johan's reasoning, at all. I thought I had a grasp of his psyche, but that premise just shattered a few minutes ago, when he took a moment to ask for a balloon and was kind enough to give the prostitute money for drugs.
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Sep 24, 2015 12:09 PM
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People cutting Tenma off mid sentence is really starting to get old.
I don't like that much of the conflict takes place because he lets people cut him off so much.
Still love the show.
Jan 4, 2016 1:56 AM

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Wow, didn't expect to see a cute girl on par with Anna lol
This episode made me like Tenma even more :>
May 16, 2016 5:05 AM

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Ah, this episode was epic. The whole scene with the fake Margot was just perfect. And like many have said before, loved the fact Johan gave the drug addict prostitute money for buying more drugs. He really is master of pulling people down and further to the darkness.
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May 31, 2016 7:20 AM

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I didn't know that Johan and Roberto knew each other, poor old hag, but I don't feel bad about her death.
May 31, 2016 9:53 PM

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Johan is so funny sometimes, or at least his reactions are. sometimes he just looks so tired of the BS around him, especially when he was talking to the Blue Sophie or whatever

a cute new character! 17 yr old doctor, i hope she stays. please don't kill her off....she's adorable
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Jul 9, 2016 6:10 PM

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The first half of this episode was great, i wish they would show those scenes though.
Great Episode.
Jun 13, 2017 8:03 PM

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The prostitute & con artist got greedy AF and got what she deserved…To think that a 17 years old girl is carrying such burden, wow! Hope she becomes a real doctor...
Jun 17, 2017 11:44 PM

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Ofc it's Roberto, it's always Roberto

He probably will never go back there ever again :(
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Aug 3, 2017 4:22 PM

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The Vietnamese chick was fucking hot. And I can say that because I'm 17 too :P

Johan gave money to the woman to get pills right? Does this mean he has a good side? A side that can sympathize with others??
Jan 31, 2018 10:25 PM

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Once again we see how Johan masterminds everything with Roberto fooling the "Red Hindenburg" and killing her. Don't really consider Johan giving drug money to the prostitute a good deed...

Good to see Tenma still helping people in with his doctor skillz.

Also, I enjoy the new ED.
Mar 25, 2018 8:36 AM

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That doctor was cute.

Also, no matter who he kills, Roberto always manages to be the biggest dick for some reason. Even if he killed someone like Hitler, he'd still be the biggest dick imo. Hope he dies later on.
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Johan has all the spades in this game. I want to see more of Johan's leadership skills and the cult he has formed, but knowing that he had Robert to secure his freedom, I bet that Margot Langer knew at that moment that she fucked up.

Nudity again. This show can do without nudity. Nudity in a show like this only makes it more of fan service rather than seriousness. They have nothing to do with the plot.

I swear, Dr. Tenma should just end up with that female doctor. They both are young geniuses, and want to save people. Besides, that bickering. They should just marry each other. Eva has to go away. I find Eva irrelevant to the plot and the show. I swear that if the show continues to try to ship Eva and Tenma, this won't be a masterpiece. This will be far from it. I really hoped Eva would die when she came up the mountain.

Johan is amazing as always. The ED sucks big time however. I think Johan borrowed that balloon because he wanted the witnesses to be distracted away from him and look at only the balloon he holds. And he gave the money to the drug addict precisely because he wanted her to erase her memories of him and even if she gets her memories back, only thing she will remember will be the balloon. WHAT A MASTER OF TACTICS!!!!! Precisely why no one can beat Johan. Even these innocuous acts have hidden meanings to them.
JeremiahOrangeMay 1, 2018 12:32 AM

Without change,we end up becoming the very person we hate.


I was dead until the moment I met you. I was a powerless corpse pretending to be alive. Living without power, without the ability to change my course, was bound to lead me to a slow death.


Aug 20, 2018 9:42 AM
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Normally I NEVER skip endings, but this so terrible to hear, my ears!

And Johan becomes more and more interesting.
Oct 7, 2018 2:48 PM
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Okay, so Johan wanted to do this thing with Schuwald as an experiment, and he planned doing it with the fake son (Fahren), and then the real son, Karl, appeared and Johan just killed the other one because he didn't need him anymore?
And I guess when Johann saw that picture book he was reminded of something dark of his childhood... wouldn't have thought that he had a weakness like that. That makes him at least a little bit human.
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