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| THIS IS A MANGA ONLY DISCUSSION POST. DO NOT DISCUSS ANYTHING BEYOND THIS CHAPTER. ---------------------------------------- dang, this chapter was good. so we get more of their backstory. at the end, they all said they were at fault, so everyone should bear the responsibility. nice how the family is sort of coming together again. |
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| I have no words, I’m just disappointed in rei, instead of trying to help her broken child, she wanted them to fight him and even kill him. |
PUSSYMANPENIS said: they need therapy lmfao😭🤡dabisbasement said: The whole family is flawed.I have no words, I’m just disappointed in rei, instead of trying to help her broken child, she wanted them to fight him and even kill him. |
LivingRogue5 said: they can literally fight while talking and then someone jumps in and stops the fight, instead of trying to kill eachother??? anyways idk I just want the todoroki family to have a happy end, I’ve seen some villains turn into heroes like gaara, I just don’t want any of them to die, if the author kills dabi or shoto, I’m ready to drop the mangadabisbasement said: what you want them to sit down with dabi and have a chat with him????????I have no words, I’m just disappointed in rei, instead of trying to help her broken child, she wanted them to fight him and even kill him. |
LivingRogue5 said: and tell me, how is it possible for a mother to watch her kids dying without feeling any empathy? Like bro I-dabisbasement said: what you want them to sit down with dabi and have a chat with him????????I have no words, I’m just disappointed in rei, instead of trying to help her broken child, she wanted them to fight him and even kill him. |
LivingRogue5 said: it doesn’t have to end that way but Atleast a happy end instead of killing one of them??dabisbasement said: i dont have the patience to explain why thats not a good way to end this , i hope you look back in the future they can literally fight while talking and then someone jumps in and stops the fight, instead of trying to kill eachother??? anyways idk I just want the todoroki family to have a happy end, I’ve seen some villains turn into heroes like gaara, I just don’t want any of them to die, if the author kills dabi or shoto, I’m ready to drop the manga |
| The entire family vs Dabi/Touya huh, it'd be great if he dies by their hands. |
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LivingRogue5 said: yeah you got a point I understand what you say, it’d be better to stop him but not KILL him but we can’t do anything about it we gotta see what gonna happen nextdabisbasement said: and tell me, how is it possible for a mother to watch her kids dying without feeling any empathy? Like bro I- if you are referring to dabi as her kid he is not , he is a monster creater by their shit parenting and they acknowledge their MASSIVE fuck up the entire chapter , on how they basically killed toya and gave birth to who dabi is . now its their responsibility to stop him as a family thats literally the point of the final panels . "stop" him can mean killing him or detaining him. and idk where you got the part of her having no empathy . it is their duty to stop dabi because they were the ones to give rise to him and she never said anything about "killing" him , i dont think you understand that talking to him is not an option , its only to fight and stop him. |
LivingRogue5 said: idk man I saw so many positive theories but I’m too lazy to explain everythingdabisbasement said: i understand you want a happy ending , but i dont think there is any going back with dabi .it doesn’t have to end that way but Atleast a happy end instead of killing one of them?? |
dabisbasement said: LivingRogue5 said: and tell me, how is it possible for a mother to watch her kids dying without feeling any empathy? Like bro I-what you want them to sit down with dabi and have a chat with him???????? Very possible. Not every mother is capable of winning "Mother of the Year". Some are just very career focused and could care less if their child died. Or, they see the child as a burden and with the child gone, feel the release of the shackles and get to go out and party or do whatever they want. Some parents suck. |
| I reject your reality, and substitute my own. |
kevin_video said: I’ve seen some mothers like that tbh, sad truth, but I wouldn’t call these women ‘mothers’ tbh they don’t even deserve to be mothersdabisbasement said: and tell me, how is it possible for a mother to watch her kids dying without feeling any empathy? Like bro I- Very possible. Not every mother is capable of winning "Mother of the Year". Some are just very career focused and could care less if their child died. Or, they see the child as a burden and with the child gone, feel the release of the shackles and get to go out and party or do whatever they want. Some parents suck. |
| [quote=dabisbasement message=62062464] kevin_video said: I’ve seen some mothers like that tbh, sad truth, but I wouldn’t call these women ‘mothers’ tbh they don’t even deserve to be mothers No argument here. I too have unfortunately seen more examples than I would like to admit. Child & Family Services exists for a reason. Some awful, awful people out there that shouldn't have been allowed to have kids. |
| I reject your reality, and substitute my own. |
| The weirdest part about this in my opinion, they've been telling the kid that there's more to life than aiming to be a hero since he was 4 years old. I know kids take a lot from their parents, but he gained a life long obsession with becoming a hero that he can't understand anything else at 4 years old? At that age he'd barely be able to hold a conversation. |
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PUSSYMANPENIS said: dabisbasement said: The whole family is flawed.I have no words, I’m just disappointed in rei, instead of trying to help her broken child, she wanted them to fight him and even kill him. I legit lol'd. Just when you would think the wife is probably normal it turns out she is missing a few gears too. lmao |
| In the last chapter, Page 6, he's being told that they won't be doing quirk training. Page 10 is when Natsuo was born. And in this chapter on page 2, we see that Natsuo is 5 years younger than Touya, which means Touya would have been 4 or 5 when they decided his quirk was too harmful to be a hero, and they stopped. You can even see that his hair was still red when he was told to stop using his quirk, and his hair was half white when Natsuo was born. Touya was told his quirk was too harmful, then Natsuo was born. 3 years after Natsuo was born, Shoto was born. We see this chapter than Touya was 13 and Shoto was 5, which is an 8 year gap. So that means they had already been trying to get Touya to stop using his quirk at the age of 5. Mod Edit: Removed quote of deleted post. |
CravenlockFeb 20, 2021 7:30 AM
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| endeavor told touya to stop after know his quirck will burn him way before shoto even born. however he never know how to tell children not to, so instead distance himself to not give touya encouragement. sadly it ended touya thinking endeavor disappointed at him and rei thinking endeavor running away (which is true to some degree, but you can see endeavor concern when touya keep training in secret). endeavor just want touya to find new dream that isn't harmful to him. anyway, it's clusterfuck, and neither all character act innocent, and it's already too late to fix. but it's clear touya also at fault here. Mod Edit: Removed quote of deleted post. |
CravenlockFeb 20, 2021 7:29 AM
 "If taking responsibility for a mistake that cannot be undone means death, it's not that hard to die. At least, not as hard as to live on." |
| The writing and characters development in this chapter is something else my Horikoshi Just WOW, Shoto brought the family together and "he becoming their very own Hero" Its better than 301 Next I hope we get to see Shoto's arc after this development he deserves it |
| well its decided Endeavor and Shoto will have to fight Dabi/Toya |
| This was a great chapter not only Dabi but the whole Todoroki family is at fault. Yes Enji,Rei are the most to be blamed I cant blame little Fuyumi, Natsuo or Shoto since they didn't knew what to do but I am happy that the Todoroki family is taking the blame and. To stop Dabi, not sure if they will kill him or something but it better be good. 5/5 chapter. |
| finally something good in this series. I've always liked the concept of bad parenting. parents are not born 'parents', they only learn parenting through wisdom from elders, but in the end, they have no real experience to handle & raise children. sometimes children expect too much from their parents, demand them to understand and do everything right, but forgot that 'parent' also a mere human being that could make mistakes.. |
I was a little bit worried last chapter of Horikoshi doing a retcon of the Todoroki family's backstory but this chapter proved I have nothing to worry about. Another great BNHA chapter for sure! Hopefully this will lead to even greater development for Shoto. Been a while since we've got major focus on him. |
iam_dswFeb 20, 2021 4:41 PM
| Dred aka Dredly aka Kami-Sama |
-dred said: I was a little bit worried last chapter of Horikoshi doing a retcon of the Todoroki family's backstory but this chapter proved I have nothing to worry about. Another great BNHA chapter for sure! Hopefully this will lead to even greater development for Shoto. Been a while since we've got major focus on him. I think Hori is already begin setting up something big for Shoto , he deserves it he a very good character🌹 |
| I gotta be honest this flashback to what made a villain an actually villain is vastly superior to Shigi-emo's, I like it. I get why he became Dabi, but I also think there is only so far you can blame your past for who you become. Ultimately his actions are his own responsibility and I honestly think he is past saving, but you never know. Also I don't really get the whole Endeavour redemption issue though. This isn't about Endeavour redeeming himself, it's about him finally taking responsibility for his actions and dealing with the fallout of what he helped create. I feel like this ties heavily into modern cancel culture. People don't want others to own up to their past actions, learn from them and become better, they just want the pleasure of seeing them being punished. |
| “I just spent the last two years thinking that you guys knew more than me about life and I just found out that you guys are just as dumb as me.” “Duh-doy.” “Yeah, duh-doy.” |
| Natsuo remaining the OG by staying true to the heart of the matter "You're the root cause.", followed by that whole "But maybe if I had punched you once and confronted you, you'd have backed up". I can respect that. It was refreshing to see that little snippet of Fuyumi acknowledging that her trying to be a bridge between the family members was more of a pretense than anything else, that stance of hers had always rubbed me off the wrong way despite how sweet she is. (I'll stay hopelessly hopeful that Dabi's end won't simply be dying and/or getting killed off. Get him locked up and get the Todorokis some therapy, it's time) |
| Alright I wasn't 100% sure if I loved the chapter with the early scans but now with the official I can safely say I adored it. The Todoroki situation is complicated, incredibly so. Endeavor is the root of it all, that should never be forgotten or brushed off that HE is by far the most guilty in this story. Sadly, every family member had a more or less small part into what eventually happened to Touya. What happened to Touya was ultimately what led Endeavor to his absolute worst it seems. This plotline is terrrifying because of how well it displays childhood trauma and how devastating bad parenting can end up being. Enji never physically abused Touya, he didn't directly harm him yet he ends up being the cause for his disappearance just because of how he behaved towards his son. Now all we need to now is how Touya survived, at what point did he thought about abandonning the Todoroki's. |
| The Todoroki family has acknowledged the fact that they're ultimately the ones who are going to be responsible for stopping Dabi. I really enjoyed their family backstory and am excited to see how things play out for them going forward. |
| People on MAL refuse to actually enjoy watching anime. Your taste in anime isn't a personality trait. |
| Honestly a really good chapter. It was painful to see Dabi desperately hoping that he does not get discarded by his father. |
| Oh man - this chapter both broke my heart and then fixed it. The more we learn about the WHOLE of the Todoroki’s past the more everything makes sense. The creation of ‘Dabi’ wasn't anyone’s fault, despite the fact that each of them let the other down in some way. |
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| Todoroki family really was a messed up family. Endeavour still feels like the biggest contribution to Dabi but it does feel like everyone could've done a lot more. They all ran away from their issues in their own way |
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| The timeline though, the fact that Endeavor ended quirk training with Touya at age 5 yet Touya held on 7 years later in the flashback, culminating to his "death".. Ehhhh, Touya had a real obsessive complex (?). So, he really did inherit that stubbornness from Endeavor, huh. Urgh, I felt so bad for past!Rei. She was verbally humiliated by her own son Touya and then blamed for Touya's actions by Endeavor. Jeez. Lmao if this was Naruto, the Todoroki family could talk no jutsu Dabi into forgiving Endeavor and stop being a villain. Talking or fighting, either way Dabi needs to be dealt with. |
| Man what a fantastic fucking chapter. Horikoshi did this Todoroki family drama so well, I like how every single one of them is flawed and was part of the problem too, except for Shoto and Fuyumi of course, he's the victim in all of the things that happened and now he's the one trying to dig this family back up from the grave. But, wait since it's Deku that saved Shoto which in turn made Shoto save his fam that means Deku saved the Todoroki family, let's fucking go therapist Deku lmao. I think it would be shit writing if Dabi was still redeemed at this point, he's too far fucking gone. So, I look forward to the eventual Todoroki family vs Dabi and see what will happen. |
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