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Apr 2, 2008 9:36 AM
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THIS IS AN ANIME ONLY DISCUSSION POST. DO NOT DISCUSS THE MANGA BEYOND THIS EPISODE.
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Finally! Shu is pissed at Nabuca! Maybe he'll beat the hell out of him, and finally put some sense into Nabuca's head.
Looking forward to the last episode. Hope Hamdo dies in a VERY painful way ^_^
May 3, 2008 12:34 PM
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Wtf????
Sep 15, 2008 10:04 PM
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Boo is dead, I thought that he and Nabuca might come to their senses and realize that what they were doing is wrong, at least maybe now Nabuca will realize it. I look forward to seeing how this is all going to end.


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Feb 13, 2010 8:33 PM
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Wow, a lot of lost lives. I hope it ends well.
Feb 23, 2010 12:28 AM
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I don't think anything can end well in this anime, I expect a bad end for all involved, especially Shu.
Mar 5, 2010 2:57 PM
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What the...
I mean, what the...
You should see me now. I mean, wow.
This is crazy.
I need that last episode, now.
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Jul 29, 2010 2:15 PM
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Am I the only one who cried during this episode? I did see this anime a good while ago, but still. Geex, what a emotional show and epiosde.

You just have to love and hate this anime.
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Jan 16, 2011 3:01 AM
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Wow, an immensely powerful episode.
It hurts to see so many deaths; Nabuca sure is an idiot though. I thought some sense would be inside of him since kidnapping that one kid earlier in the series but he just goes on to kill them instead. I don't see how this can have a happy ending.

Gotta admit that Soon reloaded that gun like a pro though...
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Feb 8, 2011 11:51 AM
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Wow. Just, Wow.

I'm looking forward to seeing how this ends...
Feb 8, 2011 6:25 PM

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Nornin said:
I don't think anything can end well in this anime, I expect a bad end for all involved, especially Shu.


Same. Bad end here we go!
Mar 25, 2011 9:05 AM

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HawthorneKitty said:

Gotta admit that Soon reloaded that gun like a pro though...

Thought the same thing. That girl was totally hiding something!
May 14, 2011 2:48 AM

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HawthorneKitty said:

Gotta admit that Soon reloaded that gun like a pro though...


LOL yeah. She was like, "I got this." Too bad it had to be Boo though.
Jan 27, 2012 1:21 AM
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AH
Apr 7, 2012 2:39 PM

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Now, this was a powerful episode. The best so far~
May 14, 2012 7:15 PM

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Oh my, this episode is too depressing. I don't think my body and soul are ready for the last episode.
Jun 14, 2012 4:32 PM

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I don't even.. I can't.. this just tore my heart apart... Those children...
This was so powerful. That symbolism. One death leading to another and how fast the hate and revenge spreads from one person to another.
I spilled tears.
Nov 13, 2012 5:48 PM

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I don't even.. I can't.. this just tore my heart apart... Those children...
This was so powerful. That symbolism. One death leading to another and how fast the hate and revenge spreads from one person to another.
I spilled tears.


Yeah...powerful, powerful stuff. I just felt totally empty after seeing that.

In Nabuca's case, since their seems to be some confusion regarding his actions, I think he's just convincing himself that, if he kills these children and his enemies, he's that much closer to "going home". The problem with that is, even if he goes home, he's probably going to only be little more than a shell of his former self. So, really, the question is: Is it worth it to do ANYTHING to get back home?

I think Soon actions and her getting shot is what hit me the hardest. The girl lost her father, yet remained relatively positive. But, when she learned about the assassin's she just lost all light in her eyes and...well, we know how it went.

I think those worrying about people getting a "happy" ending or "bad" ending are missing the point. What's important is how this endless cycle of violence is being portrayed. That leader guy (whose name i can't remember worth shit) is a great example of this, as well as Soon, as he completely lost himself in the violence to the point he probably cared less for his sister and more for violence it's self.
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Jan 19, 2013 8:49 AM

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Damn what a development! Fucking tragic especially that end... poor Soon :( But damn everyone's getting exterminated :/ I doubt we'll be seeing a happy ending.

Lets find out in the next and final episode!
May 20, 2013 10:46 PM
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THAT ENDING THAT ENDING.

The despair level is starting to go off the charts.
May 26, 2013 10:36 PM

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Oh, the twisted, cruel irony.
May 29, 2013 7:51 PM
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it was the best anime i watched this last years
Jun 9, 2013 10:48 AM

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What an episode
Jun 19, 2013 7:43 AM
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wow...earlier I accidently spoiled myself when lookin at the character descriptions..so i knew Soon would die..I didnt reread it, I thought Boo would shoot her to protect Nabuca...that scene alone hit me harder then anything in the show so far...
Jun 19, 2013 7:48 AM
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And if I was Shu, that moment alone would be enough to just lose it and SNAP!!! kill Nabuca and go Super Saiyan on Hellywood...still think everything will be ok Shu??
Jul 9, 2013 4:33 PM

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I was hoping Soon would at least get Nabuca for her father, I noticed her eyes turned blank when she learned the truth.

I don't foresee a happy end unless there's a major asspull, which I definitely don't see happening.
Jul 16, 2013 5:16 AM
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Few works of fiction in any medium portray the endless cycle of violence and death better than this. Nabuca, Soon, the villager...all dying in the same spiral.

I'm going to watch the next episode right away and I'm thinking having a box of Kleenex on hand might be a good idea. I do not expect a happy end.
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Aug 25, 2013 7:27 PM

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This was so freaking intense and emotional that my heart skipped so many beats and now it hurts like crazy.
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Aug 27, 2013 2:23 PM

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i dont know why but i was at the edge of my seat during the entire ep an then when the preview of the final appears an it shows a picture of the main characters smiling... i almost bursted into tears, never a work of fiction has made me felt this way, not since Hotaru no Haka
Nov 27, 2013 5:32 AM

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Well that was tragic . . . Hate begets hate. Anyways I'm surprised Nabuca is going along with this, I mean capturing them was one thing, but slaughtering a defenseless village full of people is another thing. I can't see this series coming to a happy conclusion.
Jul 9, 2014 3:28 PM

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Sad. Hope the end be a bit lighter.
Nov 28, 2014 6:57 AM
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WOW the way that Soon reloaded that gun. And those eyes that turn souless

Oh and by the way, GOOD JOB SHU! YOU JUST HAVE TO BRING ALL THOSE KIDS OUT INTO THE OPEN WHEN THEY ARE HIDING WELL IN THE STOREROOM!
Dec 25, 2014 2:37 AM

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That was a really powerful ending to the episode. Actually had me holding my breath and just watching in despair.

As has been said - it's an endless cycle of violence.
Feb 21, 2015 4:44 AM

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I have found this boring for a couple of episodes but that ending was rather good.
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Mar 18, 2015 6:18 AM

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Best episode.
Mar 30, 2015 6:41 AM

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God, this series is masterpiece
why the rate is so low?
oh right, it's MAL
10/10
Aug 9, 2015 8:21 PM

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See, Sis? This is what happens when you don't fight. EVERYONE DIES.
Aug 30, 2015 9:00 AM

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hope shu dies I hate that asshole
Oct 6, 2015 8:08 PM

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good, that fucker elamba is dead, havent seen a show take this route in quite some time
Feb 3, 2016 6:58 AM

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Last ep will determine if it will be an 8 or 9. Awesome series.

Damn i really hate that so called king hamdo..

RIP boo :( and the others that died.. Damn :(

Nabuca is so stupid >.> what exactly is he fighting for? The ones he shoots have the exact same goal and wish for freedom
Feb 28, 2016 12:15 AM

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OH MY GOD DID YOU JUST KILL SOON?!

Nabuca... You. Damn. Idiot.

I thought Boo laying down his gun was gonna make Nabuca reflect a little bit, but no. Nabuca isn't worth Boo sacrificing his life for.

I think as long as Sara survives I'll be okay, but it's hard to see how this show will end in a non-depressing way.

That ED - once again it fits perfectly.
Jul 2, 2017 3:32 AM

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PeanutSteak said:
Boo is dead, I thought that he and Nabuca might come to their senses and realize that what they were doing is wrong, at least maybe now Nabuca will realize it. I look forward to seeing how this is all going to end.


No because almost everybody in this show is fucking stupid. Boo, as minor of a character as he is, was on of the few decent. Together with the doctor I guess. Both died this episode to save another idiot. Great. At least Elamba is dead so I only have to endure the stupidity of Hamdo, Nabuca and the MC for the final episode. Great. Maybe they'll add some thoughtful silence by Lala Ru or some shouting by Sara or some blind obedience by Abelia.

How can they fuck up a show so hard with terrible character writing? So much wasted potential right there.
Sep 24, 2017 8:01 AM

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Omg that ending :/

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Nov 20, 2017 8:48 AM
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Oh, man should just disappear. One minute then they turn on their own people like hyena.
Nov 20, 2017 8:55 AM
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THIS ANIME IS GOLD! It makes me hate half of the cast and still love its ruthlessness and credibility
Nov 20, 2017 9:08 AM
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So, there, 2 of the most likeable characters killed each other and died. WAR IS HELL.
Dec 6, 2017 11:17 PM

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What a masterpiece of an episode! Also Lala Ru you can use your water magic anytime now, they could really use it!!

Nabuca vs Shu bout be amazing too
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Dec 7, 2017 1:02 AM

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@TheFreycook Why would Lala Ru spend her life for humans when humans were shown to be that bad and egoistic? (probably the reason why she ends up doing something only at the end, because of Shû's behaviour)
Mar 3, 2018 12:46 PM

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Goddamn! Intense, brutal episode! One of the best illustrations of the horrors of war I've seen in a while. Gave me the feels. One ep. left!
May 7, 2018 2:11 PM
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Well, we just lost half of the good characters. Regardless, looking forward to the finale and I am curious to see who would win: the walking definition of plot armor or the almighty plot itself.
Oct 20, 2018 7:30 PM
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Boo. :( That scene hurts, tho the slow-slow-motion afterwards was so awkward, I thought my laptop froze!? Now, Nabuca came to his senses.

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