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Dec 31, 2015 10:32 PM
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I am a Christian, and I am interested in watching FMA. I am wondering if it is anti-christian. Also, are the magic themes pervasive?
Dec 31, 2015 10:33 PM
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Human transmutation is one of its themes so it might come as morally shocking to sensitive people.
Dec 31, 2015 10:34 PM
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If you are worried about bullshit like this, you should stick to christian broadcasts for entertainment.
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But its still disgusting from my point of view, and from the word's point of view, therefore its disgusting.


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Dec 31, 2015 10:36 PM
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I am a Christian and I love FMA. Watch it. It's only fiction.



Dec 31, 2015 10:37 PM
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If small things like that bother you, this is a pretty bad medium for you too be watching.
Dec 31, 2015 10:38 PM
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It's a work of fiction. Don't get offended by it.
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Dec 31, 2015 10:41 PM
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I certainly didn't think so, not any more than say Harry Potter or anything.
Dec 31, 2015 10:46 PM
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Dec 31, 2015 10:49 PM
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It's about magic and science, but there are also things about souls and going to heaven. I think Yuru Yuri is much more anti-Christian.
Dec 31, 2015 10:51 PM

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No, it's not any worst than Harry Potter or anything like that (I never got why Christians were so against Harry Potter anyway, it's not like most people who watch/read it are going to go out and start trying to do witch craft and stuff like that.)

My parents are Christian and they love the Harry Potter movies.

My Sister is also Christian and she loves shows with magic and stuff.

If you start watching FMA and don't like it you can always drop it anyway.

Edward basically says that he's Atheist in a few parts but never offensively.
Jan 2, 2016 7:20 AM

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Looks more "Anti-religion" to me.
Jan 2, 2016 7:28 AM

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There's nothing to fear on knowing something out of the zone. FMA is just simply not inside the theistic zone. Don't be an ignorant and know the other side of the world. I'm a christian but I always search different views of life not just the simple dogma of Christianity. It widens your mind, and you become more aware of what you really are.

I advise you to stay away from that censorship things. If its anti-Christianity then why don't you try to know it and quarrel against it? There's no need to blur yourself away from your enemies. "We don't know our enemies, and we don't want to know them." Shit man you are blind.

Well back to the context. Magic is fine because it is fiction, imagination indeed. Even miracles look like fiction aren't they? The burning bush? It's just a figment of our imagination. Its all up to us if we opt to believe it.
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You've already seen Pokémon, which is established to be satanic by professional christian priests.
So you've already been subconsciously been seduced by demonic powers, there's hardly any going back now. FMA will not make the situation any worse.
Jan 2, 2016 8:42 AM

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It's hypocritical too.

They look down on god and all that stuff, but then treat alchemy like their religion XD
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ichii_1 said:
It's hypocritical too.

They look down on god and all that stuff, but then treat alchemy like their religion XD
Really? I don't seem to recall that. Alchemy is more of a science approach than religion though since it involves research and utilization.
Jan 9, 2016 11:04 PM
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ichii_1 said:
It's hypocritical too.

They look down on god and all that stuff, but then treat alchemy like their religion XD


it's irony that shows the specious ways of human nature
Jan 9, 2016 11:16 PM

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It's one of the most anti-religious shows out there, which is why so many neckbeards eat that shit up

The magic isn't what makes it this way, the series is really cynical especially the church episode at the start, it enforces that you shouldn't hope that things will change by relying on higher forces and that actions should be taken
Jan 9, 2016 11:46 PM

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The mc is an athiest, but it's nothing I would consider "anti-christian".

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Looks more "Anti-religion" to me.

Agree, but they don't put down a specific religion or anything.
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Jan 10, 2016 12:48 AM

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It is not sin to take an interest in things that are not so Christian so just enjoy the show.
Jan 10, 2016 2:31 AM

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Stick to whatever your local channels broadcast. If different viewpoints are enough to offend you and magic scenes seem pervasive, anime is definitely not for you.

P.S. There are quite a few times that the show talks about the hazards of blind faith, such as the belief that praying makes things better and Edward does say something about miracles not existing early on in the show.
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Jan 10, 2016 3:44 AM

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Well I'm a christian and FMA is great. The main character is an atheist and this trait of his makes him do things on his own instead of always relying on a higher power which is an important reminder that we shouldn't sit back and leave things to the guy above.

There's also a lot of morality towards the magic used because of the established principle of equivalent exchange, and it's called alchemy and explained as a science rather than magic. The first episode features a church but the message seen isn't anti religious in that episode although it does portray a message about evaluating that what we believe in is true so we don't fool ourselves, but I don't think this message necessarily applies to religion despite the episode being set in a church.

All in all, FMA is still a fun show regarding the cost of our actions in relation to the end, or if the end justifies the means in other words.
GaryMuffuginOakJan 10, 2016 3:48 AM
“Humankind cannot gain anything without first giving something in return. To obtain, something of equal value must be lost. That is alchemy's first law of Equivalent Exchange. In those days, we really believed that to be the world's one, and only, truth. But the world isn't perfect, and the law is incomplete..." -Alphonse Elric

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Jun 1, 2016 6:44 PM
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I thought Ed was agnostic? Though, I could be remembering it wrong.

And I don't think it was really anti-religion, they just didn't really talk about it much since the main theme is alchemy which is science. It would be weird for a SCIENCE manga to be about religion, to be honest.
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Not really. It doesn't really take much of a stance on anything, and the god of their universe who is termed "The Truth" resides beyond a door on which is written "Adonai" and Latin names for God.
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RedRoseFring said:
Not really. It doesn't really take much of a stance on anything, and the god of their universe who is termed "The Truth" resides beyond a door on which is written "Adonai" and Latin names for God.
Wrong series. This Is the 2003 version, not Brotherhood.
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Tylaen said:
RedRoseFring said:
Not really. It doesn't really take much of a stance on anything, and the god of their universe who is termed "The Truth" resides beyond a door on which is written "Adonai" and Latin names for God.
Wrong series. This Is the 2003 version, not Brotherhood.


Whoops! You're right, this one only had an eye on the door, and no Truth.
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no because soul/spirit exist in FMA
Aug 22, 2016 5:23 PM
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It is. I know many of you may disagree with me at this moment, but I ask you all to analyze my explanation.

Regarding FMAB, a pantheistic ideology is brought up when Edward gets to know "The Truth", that claims to be "the world, the universe, god, truth, all, one and Edward himself". As far as I know, Pantheism is an ideology that preaches that "everything is God" as if you all, the mankind and the universe itself were a composition of "God". It's an ideology that isn't compatible with Christianity. Also, there's Kabbalah. The gate of alchemy shown in the anime is the "tree of life" according to Kabbalah, which is an esoteric and occult subject. I guess there are other topics in the anime that I don't remember right now, but those I've commented about are possibly the most relevant ones.

It's not hard for us to be influenced by ideas that exist around us - even more if we're not defensive about them. Exposing ourselves to certain things means we are prone not to see them as bad things or even get to accept them in our lives. Occultism, for example, has become widespread in many ways. Currently, magic is no longer seen as a real problem, but where does magic come from? Christians recognize it comes from the evil one, so why don't we bother with it? When we reject things that offend God, we get closer to Him. In fact, that's an act of love.

Neopaganism is growing quickly and I guess this has a lot to do with the content that has been spread through movies, books and other means. In fact, occultism is going to grow more and more as time goes by. Our generation is sleeping and it's time for us to do something. As Ephesians 5:14 says: "Wake up, you who are sleeping. Rise from the dead and Christ will give you light."
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dovyjo said:
It is. I know many of you may disagree with me at this moment, but I ask you all to analyze my explanation.

Regarding FMAB, a pantheistic ideology is brought up when Edward gets to know "The Truth", that claims to be "the world, the universe, god, truth, all, one and Edward himself". As far as I know, Pantheism is an ideology that preaches that "everything is God" as if you all, the mankind and the universe itself were a composition of "God". It's an ideology that isn't compatible with Christianity. Also, there's Kabbalah. The gate of alchemy shown in the anime is the "tree of life" according to Kabbalah, which is an esoteric and occult subject. I guess there are other topics in the anime that I don't remember right now, but those I've commented about are possibly the most relevant ones.

It's not hard for us to be influenced by ideas that exist around us - even more if we're not defensive about them. Exposing ourselves to certain things means we are prone not to see them as bad things or even get to accept them in our lives. Occultism, for example, has become widespread in many ways. Currently, magic is no longer seen as a real problem, but where does magic come from? Christians recognize it comes from the evil one, so why don't we bother with it? When we reject things that offend God, we get closer to Him. In fact, that's an act of love.

Neopaganism is growing quickly and I guess this has a lot to do with the content that has been spread through movies, books and other means. In fact, occultism is going to grow more and more as time goes by. Our generation is sleeping and it's time for us to do something. As Ephesians 5:14 says: "Wake up, you who are sleeping. Rise from the dead and Christ will give you light."


This is the 2003 version so wrong series...
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Chaotic_beauty said:
I was surprised by overtly Christian overtones in my most recent viewing. One half of the world in the anime is Christian and the other half acknowledges the religion.


Your take is interesting, but I'd generally classify your evidence as vaguely judeo-christian or merely spiritualist. Christianity is specifically extinct in FMA (2003).

http://fma.wikia.com/wiki/Christianity

Christianity, as portrayed in the 2003 Fullmetal Alchemist anime series is an ancient monotheistic religion. The followers of this ancient faith created the secret city that exists beneath Dante's lair and, as such, she and Hohenheim Elric may have been practitioners. However, according to Dante, all the adherents besides the two of them - as well as their system of time measurement based on the birth of their founder and icon, Jesus Christ - had died out centuries ago, because of their religious intolerance and subsequent conflicts based on that intolerance. Although no one in the Fullmetal Alchemist series practices or even knows of Christianity, the town of Aquroya holds a church which seems to mimic some of the practices of the Christian church. The infamous thief Psiren spends a short time as a nun in this church. In episode 16, as well, Al is seen with wards stuck onto him with crosses on them, which is the symbol of Christianity.


Watch episode 46, around 7:30 in - Izumi explains to Ed that Christianity is extinct.

Or watch episode 44, from the beginning - Dante takes Rose through the long-abandoned cathedral which is the entrance to her underground base. She tells Rose, "This cathedral is one dedicated to a faith much more ancient than yours. As you can see, it has been abandoned. It has been said that this faith had many believers who followed the ideal of worshiping one God; worship of any other was considered heresy. Because of that, many, many people died."

It would appear that the other largest modern real-world monotheistic religion, Islam, is similarly unknown in their world, and may never have become widespread to begin with.
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I'm glad that @dovyjo and @Chaotic_beauty actually gave strong responses in relation to their backgrounds. I almost wish these two could spend a brief debate on the topic.
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First time I've heard that one. LOL.

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Though, "our" world on the other side of the gate is also theirs; it's part of the same FMA universe.


Okay, I thought by world you meant their planet rather than their multiverse.

Not that it matters to the argument, but in that case the Christian population of both sides combined would be what, 1/6th?
http://www.pewforum.org/2011/12/19/global-christianity-exec/
http://christianityinview.com/religion-statistics.html

Realistically in such a scenario, I expect culture would indeed preserve some awareness of Christianity, since it had clearly been dominant through the middle ages. It would be like the general awareness of Greek mythology today.
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Inherently magic and witchcraft are not entirely evil within semselves in the Bible. Using supernatural power (which is framed simply as science in the show) for selfish ends is evil, and there are plenty of characters in the show who abuse divine knowledge for terrible deeds. The two protagonists in the show are initially fascinated with playing God, which is definitely anti-christian, but they eventually come to understand why that's a terrible idea and they learn that messing with human souls is a terrible idea and the root evil in all society.

Complicate show, at times antireligious in that antagonists and even protagonists think they can play god, but in the end its about overcoming tyrrany and evil so the overall message is compatible with many religions.
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No. Quite the opposite. I think FMAB IS Christian teaching at the core. It's teaching Japanese to learn from the West: be Christian.

Elric brothers represent Jesus. The revived each other. Ed in the end sacrificed himself (his Gate of Truth) so they both returned a set of new and matured men.

The homunculus in the flask represent the classical narcissistic Eastern male who wants to first become the western Father, while at the same time aiming beyond that - the Perfect Being.
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watching anime in genral is a sin, its too late buddy
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It is not sin to take an interest in things that are not so Christian so just enjoy the show.


As A Christian anime fan I am in love with that approach. I have an anime fan and A Christian!
I like Fma, and I will love Jesus and anim e for life because you're right, it isn't A sin, and not only that, it is A gift from God!
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When i was a christian i thought about that too, and didn't like Ed that much... (because what he says regarding god) But whatever lol, i don't think it's anti-christian, it's just that Ed doesn't believe in him, and nowadays i don't care about it much :/ well, it's just his personality. You can watch it with no problem, i don't consider it anti-christian at all.
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One of the characters says "There is no such thing as God" at some point
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It's sort of blasphemical. Ed is an atheist and religion is put on a bad light. But it's Christian-approved due to its high quality, no gray morality, no fanservice and brotherhood themes. Watch it withc preucation. It's not for kids tho.
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