Heavy Object Episode 2 Discussion

Bosskardo said:

I'd say the objects are the biggest flaw in the series. Other mistakes can be forgiven and its quite decent if you think its an action comedy and won't think about plot and technical correctnes.

Nukes won't destroy an object but plasma weapons from another object will. Why not place these weapons elsewhere. Like aircraft with greater mobility and speed?
History of warfare has shown that large veichles are not very efficient. They are slow and due to that must have thick armor all around.
So, to defeat an object. It would seem using tanks and fighter planes with weapons from an object would be better. You can fire from several directions.
And more

Zahylon said:
Isn't this anime directed by Kojima?


Don't forget, that girl's eyes.... She has NANOMACHINES

Monad said:

His question isn't that stupid. Even if we assume that the size of those weapons is why they can't be put in other conventional vehicles still such weapons should be able to be put around a military base for example or on big ships etc.
Why do they not do that?
Also there is the question of a Heavy Object even taking a nuke but suddenly being hurt by such guns. At least other than that plasma weapon thing all the other smaller projectile cannon on an object shouldn't even be able to scratch it if it can take a damn nuke missile.

FiveOVER said:


You're right if we're judging it from the modern warfare we know. But the reason aircrafts and tanks aren't as useful in the HO verse is due to the hundreds of lasers, railguns and coilguns on the Object. Any aircraft that enters line of sight gets shot down at the speed of light since they don't have the armor of the Object. The same goes for tanks.

The reason why those weapons aren't outfitted on smaller formfactor is because of its weight and the power source required to power it. An Object's reactor is probably pretty huge and heavy and can't be used on any flying aircrafts. An Object is already capable of sea battles and replaces battleships. Placing it in a fixed base means a loss of mobility. Not even an Object's armor can withstand a direct hit from the main cannon of another object.

On the other hand, only the main cannon can hurt another Object, the smaller guns are there for anti-unit and anti-air and also to distract and sabotage the numerous sensors on the opponent Object.

These issues are actually addressed later on.

klaki892 said:


I think this post actually just saved me from dropping the anime.

After seeing this episode I was starting to question all of the conventions of these battles as well. The supposed ability of the objects to be unbeatable, except for by themselves just seemed completly out of the park by the end of the episode for me.

If I may add a "what-if" into this argument of conventions, they said that there are space ships travelling from the moon and back at leisure, so by Ho's technological advances, shoulnt there be orbital weapons able to start wrecking havoc on these objects sitting on the ground? (i get that there's an argument to be made about the object's speeds.)

II know we all saw the scene of the space ship easily getting shot down in space, but it seems like no one is actively using any defensive systems to prevent attacks.

Yet, even the original object we saw had a trophy system installed on it. But I've seen no indication that the current objects are even trying to use defensive measures other than evading.

You said it will be explained later on, so for now I'll keep watching it. But im on the edge about this anime as well.

matsushima said:


I don't remember if your question about orbital weapons is answered this season but volume 6

HandsomeMan said:

Epic gif

Barion-Zara said:
Not bad Qwenthur. Dem head shots were nice.

swordman009 said:
Is this two cour?

amcorp said:
Is that the ̶1̶5 ̶y̶e̶a̶r̶s̶ ̶o̶l̶d̶ anime version of Shadow of the Colossus ?

soredemoii said:


You're reading too much into it. Don't give the writers the credit they don't deserve. All points made by Aversa still stand. HO is an empty husk.

Ventris said:
This show is so dumb, hahaha. Not a single shred of it makes any sense.

Comander-07 said:

The fact that they can survive nukes but have overkill weapons that oneshot the enemys object is also pretty lame.

Aversa said:
There are so many flaws in this anime.
Starting with last week they where on a military airport in Alaska but they didn't even have professional tools for clearing snow of the runway.
Isn't airlifting one of the most efficient ways to getting supplied when your in a remote area in Alaska, despite that the commander said the guys from the aviation department weren't that importuned.

Then that is this episode the characters are pretty lightly dressed considering they are in Alaska the main character walking around without anything on his head while it was snowing.
Having nothing on your head while it's snowing is a terrible feeling the snow sticks too your hair and the feeling of that becomes painful within minutes.
You also lose most of your body heat trough your head so if you want to stay warm in a cold environment you need something to keep your head warm.
Basically the characters should have frozen to death with what they are wearing.

I won't start on the Objects since thats what this anime seems to be about but there flawed.

Despite all this i have to say that this episode was better as the previous one.

soluuloi said:


The whole setting is flawed. Who in the right mind threw some ships and airplanes at one machine and decided to call it a day when it's not destroyed? Judging from the ships design, it seems America is at war with....what? Japan? For real? What kind of espionage conducting America were doing so that they didnt even know Japan was up for no good? How can the guns still able to fire when it's in such a bad shape?

But lets forget all of the trivial stuffs, the main problem is that how can a war can be ended so easy like that? The Object seems to be nearly destroyed so one or two more nuclear bombs will certain send it to the bottom of the ocean. Why did America stopped? They have over 1000 nuclear warheads for serious! And why didnt they throw some bombs on easier targets such as...you know, Hiroshima and Nagasaki? Just send them warning that if the Object doesnt surrender then they will bomb the hell out of Japan for serious! Even if the Object is that powerful, it cant defend a country by itself!

I dont mind long explanation but I do mind when the explanation is exceptionally stupid! It seems like the author was masturbating while writing the light novel.