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Apr 11, 2015 8:46 AM
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Apr 18, 2015 8:24 AM
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More original content...I don't really get what was going on though, what with Angry Manjew and the homunculus pool.

Winter Forest time!
Oh shi- A-rank wolves!
Wow, that was brutal.
I like this version of the ED a bit more.

;_;


Next week:



Apr 18, 2015 8:25 AM
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Well Rip Illya and Berserker.

Gilgamesh was shocked for a sec tho haha

And they changed (slowed) the ED song a bit :o
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Apr 18, 2015 8:25 AM
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;______;

Good bye Illya..
Apr 18, 2015 8:25 AM
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Well shit, that was brutal..

Good amount of focus of Illya this episode even though it wasn't a pleasant ending for her or Berserker in that fight. Our blonde guy is just too damn badass. (one of the reasons why he is one my favorite in this show though)

Apr 18, 2015 8:25 AM
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I liked the scenes with the blonde guy tbh but that's just me as a fan of him so I'm biased.But I don't know why they left out certain things...there was no real atmosphere,no tension,it just happened and most anime-only watchers won't give af about her if they are not easily manipulated by "feelz".
Still rip Illya,not a fan of her but I liked that she got some focus atleast,but it was really "down your face" imo,didn't Miura said in an interview ,that he wants to be a bit more subtle?And what was with Illya getting ripped up by those wolves?Pandering to F/Z edgelords?
I also didn't like the flashbacks during the fight aswell,they just killed any form of tension imo.
An improvment to last weeks episode(duh),but I feel that it could've been better just by having a different structure for the episode.I thought we would getit this week.
My final verdict for this episode is a 3/5,if I wouldn't know more about Illya from the VN then this would be a 2/5.
sorry if this sounds a bit too harsh,I'm just a bit disappointed
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Apr 18, 2015 8:26 AM
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............................In times like these, there is only one thing to be said, in order to adequately describe my thought process:

IIIIIIILLLLLLLLLLLLLYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
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Apr 18, 2015 8:26 AM
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Rip Illya ;;

One of the better episodes, I think.
Well, the fight was interrupted by flashbacks repeatedly so it was kind of underwhelming. That said, these were much better than the Caster flashback last episode.
Also lol Shinji getting in the middle and talking shit.
Winter Forest could have done with more explanation but wasn't as bad as I thought. Overall, probably one of the best episodes of the show so far. 4.5/5
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Apr 18, 2015 8:26 AM
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IRIYAAAAAAAAAAAA


;_;
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Apr 18, 2015 8:26 AM

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THIS WEEK ON AKAME GA FEITO

- Not liking the explodey michael bay type of start. THe strongpoint of this in VN was that it was completely calm outside and shirou/rin only noticed fight going on when inside. Here ufo michael bay'd it up for no reason.
- First pacing killer interruption for zerobullshit flashback...yay? Well at least so far the bullshit flashback served more purpose than Caster's FIller master.
- We gotta add needless tryhard edge tho.
- oh look another inconsistency int he filler - the chains holding back Hercules? OH I forgot that this is not canon but BullshitVerse.
- Finaly winter forest part....sort of...as in pretty much the only canon part so far...and...with no actual explanation from VN on why even this is happening. And with additional edgelordery.
- Well congrats Ufo. You ruined most of winter forest....
- FINALLY Shirou/Rin...another little bit of canon stuff...sort of...
- Oh look we got back to the fight the mood of which was already killed by badly placed flashback.
- ANd the fight is yet again static camera sfxsfxsfx fight...here I hoped we will get something .
- Oh look Illya calls to berserker MILIMETERS BEHIND HIM. Way to miss the point, ufo.
- Where the fuck was Gil's Gungir use?
- Fuck the tackle bullshit -_-
- Oh look. Scared Gil. Yay for non cannon stuff, Bullshitverse.
- Oh look a too-late scream of SHirou. way too miss the point, ufo.



Well huge part of this episode can be summed up as edgelordery "mature" fanservice filler just like the previous filler episode last week.
A lot of episode could have been better if the flashback was IN ONE PIECE and BEFORE the fight, not hte midfight.

THe episode was emotionally dull as fuck. The atmosphere was not portrayed correctly, Illya/Berserker bond was understated, most of Winter Forest context was missing and most of filler additions non-canon and pointless.

Even Stratos as generic and dull as it is gave me more feels at the end of ep than this. The atmosphere and tension is just...missing.


And they made shirou look like idiot in this yet again. Fuck this shit.

Also...

CANT HAVE MONOLOGUES GUYSE. VISUAL MEDIUM YO
HUNDRED OF FLASHBACKS INTERRUPTING THE SCENE IS TOTALLY FINE THO.

Sasuga, Bullshitverse.

3/5



edit: the preview....holy rushjob batman, ufo. What will you do now --__--
AhenshihaelApr 18, 2015 8:49 AM
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Rip Ilya
Apr 18, 2015 8:27 AM

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Illya-chan ;-;
Apr 18, 2015 8:28 AM
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RIP my precious Ilya-chan :(
Apr 18, 2015 8:29 AM

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This whole episode could probably be summed up with:

Illya ;_;

I liked the expanded Winter Forest, and Berserker kicked ass. I like how he broke Enkidu at the end, it's not like he's full god or anything.

Gil can suck it.
Apr 18, 2015 8:30 AM

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That was really nice as expected. Almost teared up, almost.

RIP Illya.
Apr 18, 2015 8:31 AM

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CookingPriest said:
- First pacing killer interruption for zerobullshit flashback...yay? Well at least so far the bullshit flashback served more purpose than Caster's FIller master.
- oh look another inconsistency int he filler - the chains holding back Hercules? OH I forgot that this is not canon but BullshitVerse.
this
I felt nothing for Illya and the fight was disappointing

3/5
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BAN ME
Apr 18, 2015 8:31 AM

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CookingPriest said:

- oh look another inconsistency int he filler - the chains holding back Hercules? OH I forgot that this is not canon but BullshitVerse.
- Where the fuck was Gil's Gungir use?

Excuse me but can you not steal what I tell you, thanks
As for the chains, I guess you could consider that Berserker wasn't actually fighting them that hard?
Apr 18, 2015 8:31 AM
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Now That was a piece of Art. Good thing a certain surgery was left out, it would've just ruined the mood.

Stark700 said:
Good amount of focus of Illya this episode even though it wasn't a pleasant ending for her or Berserker in that fight. Our blonde guy is just too damn badass. (one of the reasons why he is one my favorite in this show though)


He is just overpowered and that is different from being badass. Although he is but not a big one.
Apr 18, 2015 8:33 AM

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The tension and atmosphere is missing in this anime.
It is like someone is reading a script.
All the visual cues and shit that emphasizes tension are not there.

It feels lifeless.
Like. was I supposed to feel anything here?
If not for having read the VN, I am pretty sure I would not have.

Insertanamehere said:
CookingPriest said:

- oh look another inconsistency int he filler - the chains holding back Hercules? OH I forgot that this is not canon but BullshitVerse.
- Where the fuck was Gil's Gungir use?
edit: the preview....holy rushjob batman, ufo. What will you do now --__--

Excuse me but can you not steal what I say thank you
As for the chains, I guess you could consider that Berserker wasn't actually fighting them that hard?


Berserker who is yet to be under control by his master just chilling? Seems legit, ufo.
Apr 18, 2015 8:33 AM

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Meh. 3/5 right now without subs, maybe the subs will help. Really didn't feel anything for Illya.
Apr 18, 2015 8:33 AM

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My body is prepared for Lancer next episode, he sounds a little mad o.o
Apr 18, 2015 8:34 AM

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;__________________;

I knew it was gonna happen BUT GOD DAMN.
Apr 18, 2015 8:34 AM

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My body is prepared for Lancer next episode, he sounds a little mad o.o


That rushjob tho.

Here we were hoping next ep would FINALY give focus to Shirou. LOLNOPE.
Apr 18, 2015 8:35 AM

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This episode made me feel.
5/5
Apr 18, 2015 8:36 AM

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Such vilify.
Apr 18, 2015 8:36 AM

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Gil looked so bored as he was cutting her shit up.

Anyway,gonna w8 till subs to give my thoughts
Apr 18, 2015 8:37 AM

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>The tension and atmosphere is missing in this anime.

Most casuals disagree with you.MOst VN readers disagree with you.

Stop talking on behalf of others.
Apr 18, 2015 8:37 AM
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From what I understood from the scene, Winter Forest was done pretty well. I'm waiting to get the subs for the scene in that underground pool with the homunculi, though. The fight itself was shorter than I expected it to be, but I liked it. The scene where Shirou and Rin were climbing the tree will probably be in the BDs (I hope so, at least).

4/5 for now.
Apr 18, 2015 8:38 AM

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Such feelz

Some pics

The sun is a deadly laser
Apr 18, 2015 8:38 AM

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What was there to love about Illya? She hardly appears so I have nothing to feel.
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Apr 18, 2015 8:39 AM
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Othi-tan said:
>The tension and atmosphere is missing in this anime.

Most casuals disagree with you.MOst VN readers disagree with you.

Stop talking on behalf of others.
Just ignore his ranting, there's no use in trying to get through to him xD
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From what I understood from the scene, Winter Forest was done pretty well. I'm waiting to get the subs for the scene in that underground pool with the homunculi, though. The fight itself was shorter than I expected it to be, but I liked it. The scene where Shirou and Rin were climbing the tree will probably be in the BDs (I hope so, at least).

4/5 for now.

The CM shown after the episode reveals fight scenes not present in the episode.
They cut some of the fight for the BDs.
Apr 18, 2015 8:39 AM

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_P5 said:
What was there to love about Illya? She hardly appears so I have nothing to feel.


There is more than one route.
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_P5 said:
What was there to love about Illya? She hardly appears so I have nothing to feel.


Shoulda read fate route brah
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nocorras said:
_P5 said:
What was there to love about Illya? She hardly appears so I have nothing to feel.


There is more than one route.


TBH even in UBW route itself in canon they did better job than there.
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Othi-tan said:

Stop talking on behalf of others.

He didn't, brah.
Apr 18, 2015 8:40 AM

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nocorras said:
_P5 said:
What was there to love about Illya? She hardly appears so I have nothing to feel.


There is more than one route.


I'm talking from a anime viewer PoV.
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Othi-tan said:
>The tension and atmosphere is missing in this anime.

Most casuals disagree with you.MOst VN readers disagree with you.

Stop talking on behalf of others.
Just ignore his ranting, there's no use in trying to get through to him xD
Well I dont like people putting words in my mouth and others' just because they are buthurt.
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CookingPriest said:
- First pacing killer interruption for zerobullshit flashback...yay? Well at least so far the bullshit flashback served more purpose than Caster's FIller master.
- oh look another inconsistency int he filler - the chains holding back Hercules? OH I forgot that this is not canon but BullshitVerse.
- Finaly winter forest part....sort of...as in pretty much the only canon part so far...and...with no actual explanation from VN on why even this is happening.
this

3/5



From what I understood, Ilya explained why she was in the forest right after she woke up.
Apr 18, 2015 8:41 AM
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mira-nyan said:
Such feelz

Some pics

Kawaii overload >//<
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_P5 said:
nocorras said:


There is more than one route.


I'm talking from a anime viewer PoV.
Anime viewers are supposed to read Fate route. That's why they gave it out for free.
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_P5 said:
nocorras said:


There is more than one route.


I'm talking from a anime viewer PoV.



Nothing.

TBH had they done a good job in this part of story you would have felt m ore as it does a good job explaining stuff about her in canon vn.

Here they flubbed the feels hard.
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Insertanamehere said:
Othi-tan said:

Stop talking on behalf of others.

He didn't, brah.

I remember his criticism being made "objectively".If he stopped that pretentious bullshit then alright....
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Othi-tan said:
Tokoya said:
Just ignore his ranting, there's no use in trying to get through to him xD
Well I dont like people putting words in my mouth and others' just because they are buthurt.


You're the one that put words in other people's mouth.

>Most casuals disagree with you.MOst VN readers disagree with you.
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mira-nyan said:
Such feelz

Some pics



Kawaii ~~
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GARBrotato said:
_P5 said:


I'm talking from a anime viewer PoV.
Anime viewers are supposed to read Fate route. That's why they gave it out for free.


I love you Botato, but that's not better than a Tokyo Ghoul fanboy saying that you should read the manga because the anime was shit.
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_P5 said:
nocorras said:


There is more than one route.


I'm talking from a anime viewer PoV.


Most people on here have read the VN, that's why they react like this. It should have been obvious without asking.
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_P5 said:
GARBrotato said:
Anime viewers are supposed to read Fate route. That's why they gave it out for free.


I love you Botato, but that's not better than a Tokyo Ghoul fanboy saying that you should read the manga because the anime was shit.

wait for the subs I guess
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CookingPriest said:
_P5 said:


I'm talking from a anime viewer PoV.



Nothing.

TBH had they done a good job in this part of story you would have felt m ore as it does a good job explaining stuff about her in canon vn.

Here they flubbed the feels hard.
Even in the VN no one would give a shit if they didn't like the character from before, specifically from Fate route. Someone reading UBW will not give two shits about Illya or Berserker.

This scene is better on re-read actually, because of HF stuff.
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