| Neither are evil, both are very good studios. There's plenty of worse ones to pick on. |
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| Toei still uses those crappy outdated sound effects from the 80s. |
| Any studio that constantly screw up adaptations is bad. Just because they screw up less severely in each adaptation, it doesn't change the fact that they fked up. Therefore both are just as bad. |
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Naisto said: World Trigger looks bloody trash, so therefore Toei is worse for sure. Who even funds shit like that these days. Owch. And here I thought world trigger was decent :/ My real question is what is the best studio that people like xD |
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| Toei because Pierrot is pure evil |
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Naisto said: 7starkiller99 said: Owch. And here I thought world trigger was decent :/ My real question is what is the best studio that people like xD aww... well I only saw the first four episodes, maybe it redeems itself o.o? I just think the other shounen this season are much better, like nanatsu no taizai, shingeki no bahamut: genesis and log horizon. Don't get me wrong I'm not saying they are the best anime, just that they are a fair amount better than world trigger. Those are all good and probably better than World Trigger but World Trigger is still decent itself. Stuff can be better than other stuff without one of them being 'bloody trash'. |
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| Toei by far,considering what a large studio they are and how many franchises they have under their belt (most of them mega successes worldwide) and how they always manage to fuck up the adaptations since like the early 90's with tons of fillers and crappy production values it just goes without saying. |
| Both are bad. |
| Naruto ended and Studio Pierrot is still going to make fillers. Automatically makes them worst than Toei since filler is only supposed to be used so an anime doesn't surpass the manga. |
Drunk_Samurai said: When did Pierrot say they are still going to do fillers? There haven't been any filler arcs since the Kakashi filler arc.Naruto ended and Studio Pierrot is still going to make fillers. Automatically makes them worst than Toei since filler is only supposed to be used so an anime doesn't surpass the manga. |
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Cookiestroke said: True. Toei has no redeeming quality whatsoever. They made Kyousougiga :) But Pierrot also made Twelve Kingdoms, so I'm going with Pierrot. |
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DrGeroCreation said: Drunk_Samurai said: When did Pierrot say they are still going to do fillers? There haven't been any filler arcs since the Kakashi filler arc.Naruto ended and Studio Pierrot is still going to make fillers. Automatically makes them worst than Toei since filler is only supposed to be used so an anime doesn't surpass the manga. http://www.shonengamez.com/2014/11/07/worried-naruto-anime-ending-dont/ |
Drunk_Samurai said: That doesn't 100% confirm it will be a filler arc though. If Kishimoto is involved in the creation of the story for the new anime arc then it would be canon.DrGeroCreation said: When did Pierrot say they are still going to do fillers? There haven't been any filler arcs since the Kakashi filler arc. http://www.shonengamez.com/2014/11/07/worried-naruto-anime-ending-dont/ |
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DrGeroCreation said: That doesn't 100% confirm it will be a filler arc though. If Kishimoto is involved in the creation of the story for the new anime arc then it would be canon. "Nope, it’s not ending yet! Once we usher in the new year we will be introducing some new story developments into the series." Plus it says nothing about Kishmoto being involved. |
| I only watched their long-running shounen-series, so it's Naruto/Bleach vs Dragon Ball/One Piece. Comparing these I have to say Pierrot did a better job. |
| I'm late to the party but I will still respond! XD First no one of the 2 studios is bad! They are pretty good studios with capacity of doing long running titles. Toei animation is by without a doubt. Now I will give the reasons. - Makes more titles. - The titles they make are in general better and more entertaining. - They take their times with their adaptations making most out of them. Pierrot lately has been speeding through stuff. - Add better original content that flesh the stories they adapt better and even add to the feel of it. - Manage their series better, not making ridiculous fillers arcs, like the 1 year and 9 months of fillers in Naruto, 5.5 months of filler in Naruto Shippuden. And still with that a ton of fillers, and majority is horrible and none that good. - Does a ton of high quality movies every year. Let's talk about their works in the last 4 years and long running titles(ran at least during those 4 years): |
bigivelfhqFeb 5, 2015 7:09 AM
bigivelfhq said: But you seem to forget that their production value is pretty low compared to Pierrot.I'm late to the party but I will still respond! XD First no one of the 2 studios is bad! They are pretty good studios with capacity of doing long running titles. Toei animation is by without a doubt. Now I will give the reasons. - Makes more titles. - The titles they make are in general better and more entertaining. - They take their times with their adaptations making most out of them. Pierrot lately has been speeding through stuff. - Add better original content that flesh the stories they adapt better and even add to the feel of it. - Manage their series better, not making ridiculous fillers arcs, like the 1 year and 9 months of fillers in Naruto, 5.5 months of filler in Naruto Shippuden. And still with that a ton of fillers, and majority is horrible and none that good. - Does a ton of high quality movies every year. Let's talk about their works in the last 4 years and long running titles(ran at least during those 4 years): |
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bigivelfhq said: Agreed especially with the filler part. One thing they're great at is adding filler you can't even figure out is filler at the best times.I'm late to the party but I will still respond! XD First no one of the 2 studios is bad! They are pretty good studios with capacity of doing long running titles. Toei animation is by without a doubt. Now I will give the reasons. - Makes more titles. - The titles they make are in general better and more entertaining. - They take their times with their adaptations making most out of them. Pierrot lately has been speeding through stuff. - Add better original content that flesh the stories they adapt better and even add to the feel of it. - Manage their series better, not making ridiculous fillers arcs, like the 1 year and 9 months of fillers in Naruto, 5.5 months of filler in Naruto Shippuden. And still with that a ton of fillers, and majority is horrible and none that good. - Does a ton of high quality movies every year. Let's talk about their works in the last 4 years and long running titles(ran at least during those 4 years): |
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bigivelfhq said: I'm late to the party but I will still respond! XD First no one of the 2 studios is bad! They are pretty good studios with capacity of doing long running titles. Toei animation is by without a doubt. Now I will give the reasons. - Makes more titles. - The titles they make are in general better and more entertaining. - They take their times with their adaptations making most out of them. Pierrot lately has been speeding through stuff. - Add better original content that flesh the stories they adapt better and even add to the feel of it. - Manage their series better, not making ridiculous fillers arcs, like the 1 year and 9 months of fillers in Naruto, 5.5 months of filler in Naruto Shippuden. And still with that a ton of fillers, and majority is horrible and none that good. - Does a ton of high quality movies every year. Let's talk about their works in the last 4 years and long running titles(ran at least during those 4 years): Pierrot has better titles and production values though. |
FGAU1912 said: Z4k said: Pierrot has better titles and production values though. non the busiissness side toei wins 20 times Yeah because Toei is a greedy studio. |
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Z4k said: One Piecebigivelfhq said: I'm late to the party but I will still respond! XD First no one of the 2 studios is bad! They are pretty good studios with capacity of doing long running titles. Toei animation is by without a doubt. Now I will give the reasons. - Makes more titles. - The titles they make are in general better and more entertaining. - They take their times with their adaptations making most out of them. Pierrot lately has been speeding through stuff. - Add better original content that flesh the stories they adapt better and even add to the feel of it. - Manage their series better, not making ridiculous fillers arcs, like the 1 year and 9 months of fillers in Naruto, 5.5 months of filler in Naruto Shippuden. And still with that a ton of fillers, and majority is horrible and none that good. - Does a ton of high quality movies every year. Let's talk about their works in the last 4 years and long running titles(ran at least during those 4 years): Pierrot has better titles and production values though. The better titles part of your post has now been smashed to smithereens. |
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IntroverTurtle said: Z4k said: One PiecePierrot has better titles and production values though. The better titles part of your post has now been smashed to smithereens. No it hasn't. Pierrot still has many better titles than one piece. |
Milk_is_Special said: bigivelfhq said: But you seem to forget that their production value is pretty low compared to Pierrot.I'm late to the party but I will still respond! XD First no one of the 2 studios is bad! They are pretty good studios with capacity of doing long running titles. Toei animation is by without a doubt. Now I will give the reasons. - Makes more titles. - The titles they make are in general better and more entertaining. - They take their times with their adaptations making most out of them. Pierrot lately has been speeding through stuff. - Add better original content that flesh the stories they adapt better and even add to the feel of it. - Manage their series better, not making ridiculous fillers arcs, like the 1 year and 9 months of fillers in Naruto, 5.5 months of filler in Naruto Shippuden. And still with that a ton of fillers, and majority is horrible and none that good. - Does a ton of high quality movies every year. Let's talk about their works in the last 4 years and long running titles(ran at least during those 4 years): No is not! Just Precure owns almost everything that Pierrot does. One Piece most of the time is also better than Naruto. People take a few flashy moments and get blinded but anything else. Also people have misconceptions about what animation and art choices is(just like a lot of people in the west, specially America, think One Piece art is bad). And also people seem to be all in a rush, just a little slow episodes and is the end of the world. And Toei movies are way better in production values than any movie of Pierrot(unless some movie I didn't watched from Pierrot has an incredible quality), showing that they have way better quality once again. People in the western net have for the majority of times have a horrible Toei bias. Interesting enough they loved their works when they were younger/kids, but now after growing up a little and with the rise of night anime format, they think like they are experts and critics of animation and only know how to talk bad. Also all the edgy and dark themes love that immature adults is stupid(Like Toei destroyed Toriko because it didn't show more blood and severed limbs and stuff like that). People also seem to forget that Pierrot did Kingdom: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dh-vb6JCICY And Polar Bear Cafe(that I didn't watch XD): https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HwzXtNnFWqY When Toei does 3D does something like this Happiness Charge Precure: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FYjABqTa5IA Majin Bone: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QXyUVdmb_WM And the guy that shown the Naruto Sakugas saying that One Piece wouldn't never have something like that, here is just Punk Hazard Sakugas: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=i_ATSIq-yzY |
bigivelfhqFeb 5, 2015 8:54 AM
Z4k said: There's no title in all of anime land that's better than One Piece so that's impossible.IntroverTurtle said: One Piece The better titles part of your post has now been smashed to smithereens. No it hasn't. Pierrot still has many better titles than one piece. |
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Z4k said: IntroverTurtle said: One Piece The better titles part of your post has now been smashed to smithereens. No it hasn't. Pierrot still has many better titles than one piece. Tell me about them? One Piece and Precure are better than anything that Pierrot brings! They are basically the pillars of Action(I don't like calling Shonen because anime is not qualified as such), and Magic Girls(Mahou Shoujo). When you're talking of better titles, are you including the ones that already ended? Or just the recent ones? |
| Both are fine studios really give me an anime with over 200 episodes that has "good" animation and follows the source material with no changes Z4k said: Captain Harlock 2013 and Saint Seiya legend of sanctuary. Pierrot has better titles and production values though. People are forgetting that toei has like 6 long running anime with more coming next season People shouldn't always blame a studio for everything blame script writers/directors and producers and bitching about censoring is just pointless |
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bigivelfhq said: Also people have misconceptions about what animation and art choices is(just like a lot of people in the west, specially America, think One Piece art is bad Most of your post is just lol. But this in particular is dumb. How can an opinion about an art be a misconception, I would have understand if you meant that people call the animation bad, when they mean art. And if that's One Piece example of good animation, then wow, I'm glad I didn't watch random fights like I was going to. And I remember that legs fight between Sanji and that other guy, to be an example of why One Piece's animation and choreography suck. |
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tsudecimo said: bigivelfhq said: Also people have misconceptions about what animation and art choices is(just like a lot of people in the west, specially America, think One Piece art is bad Most of your post is just lol. But this in particular is dumb. How can an opinion about an art be a misconception, I would have understand if you meant that people call the animation bad, when they mean art. And if that's One Piece example of good animation, then wow, I'm glad I didn't watch random fights like I was going to. And I remember that legs fight between Sanji and that other guy, to be an example of why One Piece's animation and choreography suck. You're the one being dumb, because I said "MISCONCEPTIONS about what animation and art choices is" not "MISCONCEPTIONS about an art". Also are you implying that artistic knowledge and appreciation doesn't exist? Are you saying that art schools and animation/art courses shouldn't exist? That art experts aren't educated people? Because it seems like that is what you're saying, by saying that is dumb what I'm saying. Your last comment shows how you have a misconception of what animation is, or just horrible tastes(or just hate for One Piece so are blinding yourself even if unconscious). Also the choreography doesn't suck at all. |
bigivelfhq said: tsudecimo said: Most of your post is just lol. But this in particular is dumb. How can an opinion about an art be a misconception, I would have understand if you meant that people call the animation bad, when they mean art. And if that's One Piece example of good animation, then wow, I'm glad I didn't watch random fights like I was going to. And I remember that legs fight between Sanji and that other guy, to be an example of why One Piece's animation and choreography suck. You're the one being dumb, because I said "MISCONCEPTIONS about what animation and art choices is" not "MISCONCEPTIONS about an art". Also are you implying that artistic knowledge and appreciation doesn't exist? Are you saying that art schools and animation/art courses shouldn't exist? That art experts aren't educated people? Because it seems like that is what you're saying, by saying that is dumb what I'm saying. Your last comment shows how you have a misconception of what animation is, or just horrible tastes(or just hate for One Piece so are blinding yourself even if unconscious). Also the choreography doesn't suck at all. Bad wording on your part. I have no clue what your second paragraph is supposed to mean. I'm fully aware what animation is, when I say Naruto's animation is better than One Piece's I'm not referring to the art, I'm referring to the fluidity. More like it's the complete opposite of you loving it, way too much, to the point of calling it bad taste (ignoring stuff called opinions), when most one piece fans themselves think the animation is not good. It sucks, it's repetitive and like the fights in the series, it's mindless, that Sanji fight being a good example (kicking feet over and over again, how exciting!) Key animation: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IHSU_vvY-Nk Let me know when Toei directs a better animated, well choreographed fight than this: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Q6aj62r_ICo |
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| Pierrot is Madhouse-tier Toei is just shit. |
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silverwalls said: toei did sailor moon and kyousou giga so they're definitely the better of the two Not better than GTO. |
Z4k said: silverwalls said: toei did sailor moon and kyousou giga so they're definitely the better of the two Not better than GTO. Lol is there any point in this? one liner opinions.. |
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tsudecimo said: Z4k said: Not better than GTO. Lol is there any point in this? one liner opinions.. Not really I'm just waiting for the thread to get locked. |
FGAU1912 said: You no speakuh Englishuh?Z4k said: Not better than GTO. live action os better thna the anime by far for GTO that howshow weak the anime is |
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| Ill take Pierrot any day of the week ,Toei is just absolutely abysmal. Short random example that comes to mind :Yu Yu Hakusho had like 3-4 episode where the animation/character design was off (probably due to outsourcing to another studio ,experimenting with different techniques or similar) in all its runtime, Fist Of the North Star first season had 3 properly animated and well drawn episodes in total,just myeah.... |
amateurFeb 5, 2015 11:30 AM
amateur said: Ill take Pierrot any day of the week ,Toei is just absolutely abysmal. Short random example that comes to mind :Yu Yu Hakusho had like 3-4 episode where the animation/character design was off (probably due to outsourcing to another studio ,experimenting with different techniques or similar) in all its runtime, Fist Of the North Star first season had 3 properly animated and well drawn episodes in total,just myeah.... http://myanimelist.net/forum/?topicid=1283893&show=40#msg36018961 me is confused |
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tsudecimo said: amateur said: Ill take Pierrot any day of the week ,Toei is just absolutely abysmal. Short random example that comes to mind :Yu Yu Hakusho had like 3-4 episode where the animation/character design was off (probably due to outsourcing to another studio ,experimenting with different techniques or similar) in all its runtime, Fist Of the North Star first season had 3 properly animated and well drawn episodes in total,just myeah.... http://myanimelist.net/forum/?topicid=1283893&show=40#msg36018961 me is confused Thanks for keeping track of my previous posts for me.You finally found something actually worthwhile to do... The title of the thread was different ,it was asking "which was worse out of the 2". |
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