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zoknimano said:
Good OP. Blood loss and internal damage kills people.

Think further, just by being born means you're eventuated to die.

Blame your parents for creating/killing you.

Kill them.
Aug 5, 2014 3:07 AM

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Guns were specifically made for killing people right? or were they made to help people kill other people?
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ThisNameBlows said:
zoknimano said:
Good OP. Blood loss and internal damage kills people.

Think further, just by being born means you're eventuated to die.

Blame your parents for killing you.

What if I'm immortal?
Aug 5, 2014 3:11 AM

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Skin kills people because it's not keeping bullets out. Learn some math f@g!t


It's the bullet who kill actually........you need to learn *snaps finger*

OMG SO DANGER HELP MOMMY
Aug 5, 2014 3:12 AM

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kokkoderrisch said:
ThisNameBlows said:

Think further, just by being born means you're eventuated to die.

Blame your parents for killing you.

What if I'm immortal?

Go sit in the corner.
Aug 5, 2014 3:23 AM

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ThisNameBlows said:
zoknimano said:
Good OP. Blood loss and internal damage kills people.

Think further, just by being born means you're eventuated to die.

Blame your parents for creating/killing you.

Kill them.
But they are also victims, made by their parents.
Aug 5, 2014 3:58 AM

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A gun on it's own can't kill people without some modicum of human intervention.

inb4 dropped since guns have safety features installed to prevent misfiring from drops
Aug 5, 2014 3:59 AM

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Guns are the enabler and people are the instigator.
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ThisNameBlows said:
zoknimano said:
Good OP. Blood loss and internal damage kills people.

Think further, just by being born means you're eventuated to die.

Blame your parents for creating/killing you.

Kill them.
I blame Big Bang.
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bash107 said:
Udgey said:
Skin kills people because it's not keeping bullets out. Learn some math f@g!t


It's the bullet who kill actually........you need to learn *snaps finger*
being born resulted in them being kill. birth bring kill.
Aug 5, 2014 4:41 AM

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There were homicides before gunpowder was invented. Moreover,there are homicides in Europe, where guns are illegal to own. So, it's not the guns that cause people to kill each other.

But, on the other hand, guns are designed to kill humans so to say that guns don't kill people is like saying lawmowners don't mown the lawn - it's true but it still sounds stupid.
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Aug 5, 2014 4:43 AM

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IktIkn said:
There were homicides before gunpowder was invented. Moreover,there are homicides in Europe, where guns are illegal to own. So, it's not the guns that cause people to kill each other.

But, on the other hand, guns are designed to kill humans so to say that guns don't kill people is like saying lawmowners don't mown the lawn - sounds stupid, doesn't it?
Guns aren't illegal in Europe, you just need a license for it.
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Rothion said:
IktIkn said:
There were homicides before gunpowder was invented. Moreover,there are homicides in Europe, where guns are illegal to own. So, it's not the guns that cause people to kill each other.

But, on the other hand, guns are designed to kill humans so to say that guns don't kill people is like saying lawmowners don't mown the lawn - sounds stupid, doesn't it?
Guns aren't illegal in Europe, you just need a license for it.


Ooops, meant to say Hungary.
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Aug 5, 2014 4:50 AM

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IktIkn said:
Ooops, meant to say Hungary.
Our gun laws are pretty strict, but it's not illegal.
Aug 5, 2014 5:03 AM

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bash107 said:
Neither guns or people kill..........bullets do.Think For fucks sake


Okay let me just take these bullets out of this gun so I can throw them at you because...

BULLETS KILL PEOPLE
Aug 5, 2014 5:04 AM

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Meokii said:
Regular citizens should not have guns in the first place!

Citizens deserve every right to be able to defend themselves and their property.
Don't be ridiculous.
Aug 5, 2014 5:06 AM

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Cyaegha said:
A gun on it's own can't kill people without some modicum of human intervention.

inb4 dropped since guns have safety features installed to prevent misfiring from drops


Guess there's no such thing as automated turrents that track movement... oh wait
Aug 5, 2014 5:09 AM
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Guns make it alot easier to kill people.

And if someone has a hot discussion fight with some other the gun could be used as solution of it.

Weapons are tools to kill people. Nothing more, nothing less.

Do you really think you could protect yourself with a weapon if everyone has a weapon ? No, both could die because of it. Yeah, you protected that the other guy will not stay alive aswell
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Cyanwasserstoff said:

Do you really think you could protect yourself with a weapon if everyone has a weapon ? No, both could die because of it. Yeah, you protected that the other guy will not stay alive aswell


Mutually Assured Destruction.

How do you think world peace has been maintained thus far?
Aug 5, 2014 5:16 AM

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Cyanwasserstoff said:
Do you really think you could protect yourself with a weapon if everyone has a weapon ? No, both could die because of it. Yeah, you protected that the other guy will not stay alive aswell

Do you really think a person would easily commit a crime if everyone is carrying a gun and can protect themselves?
Of course not, people target defenseless people not people they know are capable of harming them back.

Its basic common sense.
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I think I'd be funny if a police car was driving beside you then you held up a fake gun to the window and gave the policemen a weird smile.
Aug 5, 2014 5:20 AM

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Ange892 said:
I think I'd be funny if a police car was driving beside you then you held up a fake gun to the window and gave the policemen a weird smile.


That'd be funny until you get shot in the face, actually I'd still be laughing..
Aug 5, 2014 5:22 AM
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@Kronie:

The gun makes the decision to kill someone alot easier then he/she would not have a tool to kill people.

Also the weapon could be the reason that a normal fight would end in a bloody way.

People cannot defend themself with a weapon if the person who want to kill them also carry one.
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Draeswolf said:
Ange892 said:
I think I'd be funny if a police car was driving beside you then you held up a fake gun to the window and gave the policemen a weird smile.


That'd be funny until you get shot in the face, actually I'd still be laughing..


Yep, and I'd still have a big smile on my face with my head blown off.
Aug 5, 2014 5:33 AM

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Cyanwasserstoff said:
People cannot defend themself with a weapon if the person who want to kill them also carry one.

Yes, yes they can.
That logic makes no sense, if they are carrying a gun than the ONLY defense would be to also carry one. Because I can assure you not carrying a gun while they do carry one wont be of help in the slightest.

And self control is always required. Knives are always pulled in fights should they be banned as well? If people want to kill they are going to kill. I however prefer the ability to be able to defend myself against gun wielding maniacs instead of having nothing and being left to their own whims on when to murder me or not.
Aug 5, 2014 5:37 AM

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Kronie said:
if they are carrying a gun than the ONLY defense would be to also carry one.


My Iron Man suit disagrees
Aug 5, 2014 6:17 AM

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American gun laws result in more deaths?

So... america kills people?
Aug 5, 2014 6:26 AM

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Infinite said:
American gun laws result in more deaths?

So... america kills people?


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i suppose we, as australians, have to blame for iggy though
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Infinite said:
American gun laws result in more deaths?

So... america kills people?

People can't handle freedom.
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Kronie said:
Meokii said:
Regular citizens should not have guns in the first place!

Citizens deserve every right to be able to defend themselves and their property.
Don't be ridiculous.

You don't need a gun to defend yourself.
Aug 5, 2014 6:34 AM

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Rothion said:
People kill people, guns are just a tool for people to kill more effectively.


^ this right here
Aug 5, 2014 6:42 AM

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People kill people. But I don't think that's a good enough excuse to make it really easy for any lunatic to get his hands on a gun. Chances are, he probably wouldn't have killed someone, let alone go on a rampage, if it was difficult for him to get a gun.
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ThisNameBlows said:
Infinite said:
American gun laws result in more deaths?

So... america kills people?

People can't handle freedom.

^
I was actually agitated when I saw this post about... Schools giving out these things teaching kids how to defend themselves. Why, of all people, are children supposed to be taught on how to defend themselves? Instead of having these children be taught of defending, why don't they just ban guns?
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People kill people, cause guns can't kill without people "helping" them
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The only thing I see guns as a deterrent is for theft or something. It will definitely not be a deterrent to people out there to kill you. Because deciding to kill someone usually involves not thinking about laws anyway, so even if they know the other will have a gun it definitely isn't as deterring as how deadly and easy the weapon is to kill others. This same mindset can't be said for theft, because theft isn't nearly as dangerous or severe in its repercussion than murder.
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Meokii said:
ThisNameBlows said:

People can't handle freedom.

^
I was actually agitated when I saw this post about... Schools giving out these things teaching kids how to defend themselves. Why, of all people, are children supposed to be taught on how to defend themselves? Instead of having these children be taught of defending, why don't they just ban guns?


American police are well known for civilian brutality, incompetence, and slow response times.

I've heard a number of times from Americans tales of the police there saying "Our job isn't to protect you, its to clean up the mess."

Would you want them guarding you?

Not that the ones in Europe or Asia are any better. Europe can't go a year without hooligans and Arabs going around and raping women, physically murdering people, and setting a major city on fire. Funny how fast Europeans forget that, but then again its a people accustomed to another power telling it what to do, as its old glory has all but vanished.

In Asia police responses are almost always after the fact. With societies like this, teaching defense early is a wise idea, when the state is a den of corruption and incompetence. The government normally has a duty to protect the people, but what if its incapable, or even worse, the offender?
Aug 5, 2014 7:30 AM

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Either way is the same, both is killing people
Aug 5, 2014 7:31 AM

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Meokii said:
You don't need a gun to defend yourself.

A guy has a gun, the other is unarmed.
Even a brain dead retard can figure out who has the upperhand in this scenario, are you saying you're less capable of thought than a brain dead retard?

Meokii said:
why don't they just ban guns?

They should just ban murder, I'm sure that would solve everything.
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I believe this sums it up
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Guns are sentient, therefore they decide whether to kill or not. It's not actually the person behind the trigger that's got the will to choose, it's the GUN ITSELF.
Aug 5, 2014 9:50 AM
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Kronie said:

Yes, yes they can.
That logic makes no sense, if they are carrying a gun than the ONLY defense would be to also carry one. Because I can assure you not carrying a gun while they do carry one wont be of help in the slightest.

That logic does not make sense. If noone would carry a weapon, then noone would need them aswell. It is not a tool for defense, it is a tool for offense killing people.
Kronie said:

And self control is always required. Knives are always pulled in fights should they be banned as well? If people want to kill they are going to kill. I however prefer the ability to be able to defend myself against gun wielding maniacs instead of having nothing and being left to their own whims on when to murder me or not.


It depends on what kind of knifes. Some should be banned and in some countries they are banned.
Self control is a nice word, but if you own a tool with a great potential of killing someone your self control will be on a very low level. The danger behind that tool is too high.

If someone has a knife you could run away or if you are very strong you could defend yourself with body power. In the case of a gun it is totally impossible.
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Guns don't get up and shoot people for any reason, its the people using it that pull the trigger.
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Infinite said:
American gun laws result in more deaths?

So... america kills people?

ban America
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Aug 5, 2014 10:07 AM

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Meokii said:
Kronie said:

Citizens deserve every right to be able to defend themselves and their property.
Don't be ridiculous.

You don't need a gun to defend yourself.
If the other guy has a gun...yeah I kind of do.
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Aug 5, 2014 10:10 AM
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You don't need a gun to defend yourself.

TheFilthyCasual said:
If the other guy has a gun...yeah I kind of do.

Yeah, but if noone is allowed to carry a gun then you do not need one to defend yourself
Aug 5, 2014 10:14 AM

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People die when they are killed.
Aug 5, 2014 10:45 AM

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Guns don't kill people. People kill people with guns. If they can't use guns, they would just use some other weapon to kill people.
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Cyanwasserstoff said:

You don't need a gun to defend yourself.

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If the other guy has a gun...yeah I kind of do.

Yeah, but if noone is allowed to carry a gun then you do not need one to defend yourself
Since when has a ban ever stopped people from just getting them off the black market?

Also, it's great to have a gun to bring to a knife fight.
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"Do guns kill people or do people kill people?"

uuuh.. semantics.

DesuMaiden said:
Guns don't kill people. People kill people with guns. If they can't use guns, they would just use some other weapon to kill people.
the last sentence doesnt support your claim, that "people kill people".

The hammer killed the man, the gun killed the man, the banana killed the man.


I can turn it like I want to, this argument is useless. Both are possible answers.
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