Torisunanohokori said: Yause said: The promotional power of an anime can determine continuation. Generally, if the readership of a mildly popular work doesn't increase dramatically after the anime broadcast, the publisher may choose to end it. Theoretically, yes, but in practice, there's very little evidence to support this. Visible boosts are just as common for manga that end less than 1 year after the anime as they are for manga that end more then 2 years after the anime. In general, if a series doesn't run in a weekly shonen mag with million-plus circulation numbers and is popular enough to warrant an anime, it's popular enough to continue regardless of how much of a boost the anime provides. Provided the author wants to do so, of course. Mangirl! is a prime example of a series that got cancelled after the anime flopped so it is more than just theory. |
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| I like the manga more than the anime (though it was enjoyable too of course and what got me into this series), hopefully the scans catch up before then to the material it didn't cover. |
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LastChapter said: Is this the real life? Is this just fantasy? *cries* Caught in a landslide, No escape from reality. ..I literally cant believe everyone on here left you hanging. |
scruffykiwi said: Mangirl! is a prime example of a series that got cancelled after the anime flopped so it is more than just theory. Do you have proof that Mangirl was specifically cancelled, like an author comment or something? I didn't say that manga *never* get cancelled, just that a series ending soon after the anime is not generally sufficient proof that a given series was forced to end by the publisher. There are many series that do well and also see the manga end soon after the anime, ala Joshiraku or Usagi Drop, and those that did poorly by all available measures but are still running, ala Hyouge Mono or Hen Zemi. |
TorisunanohokoriJul 23, 2014 8:09 AM
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| It's also highly possible that it's the other way round - that the anime adaptation occurs when it does because the series is nearing its end. |
| There is no such thing as shit taste. Only idiots who think everyone should have the same taste as they do. |
| getting ready to start reading probably after watching the anime too |
Torisunanohokori said: scruffykiwi said: Mangirl! is a prime example of a series that got cancelled after the anime flopped so it is more than just theory. Do you have proof that Mangirl was specifically cancelled, like an author comment or something? I didn't say that manga *never* get cancelled, just that a series ending soon after the anime is not generally sufficient proof that a given series was forced to end by the publisher. There are many series that do well and also see the manga end soon after the anime, ala Joshiraku or Usagi Drop, and those that did poorly by all available measures but are still running, ala Hyouge Mono or Hen Zemi. Yes. Mangirl was cancelled. The mangaka currently does not have any serialization underway. |
scruffykiwiJul 23, 2014 4:03 PM
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scruffykiwi said: Yes. Mangirl was cancelled. The mangaka currently does not have any serialization underway. That's also not a particularly meaningful bit of info. Not everybody who chooses to end a series immediately starts working on their next publication. Gakuen Alice (which regularly made the charts at 100k+) finished a year ago, just before Mangirl, and Higuchi Tachibana still hasn't published anything since. Hiroyuki Takei had a 2-year gap between the end of Shaman King in 2004 and the start of Jumbor in 2007. |
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Torisunanohokori said: scruffykiwi said: Yes. Mangirl was cancelled. The mangaka currently does not have any serialization underway. That's also not a particularly meaningful bit of info. Not everybody who chooses to end a series immediately starts working on their next publication. Gakuen Alice (which regularly made the charts at 100k+) finished a year ago, just before Mangirl, and Higuchi Tachibana still hasn't published anything since. Hiroyuki Takei had a 2-year gap between the end of Shaman King in 2004 and the start of Jumbor in 2007. I can't find the source right now but an English fan discussed with the mangaka on the mangaka's pixvid account about how much the mangaka got from the anime (which was a pittance) and about their disappointment of the manga getting axed. Yes it's true that anime sales on their own won't get a series axed, and there are plenty of examples of low sales anime continuing in manga form, especially for more niche titles. Of course because we are all outsiders we can't see the income streams and each publisher is different, but when a business invests in a product and does not see any return (in manga volume sales) then it's not unexpected to see that investment terminated. |
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scruffykiwi said: Anon1409 said: I wonder if it'll take 12 or 24 episodes to cover the rest of the manga Well .. 4 volumes gave us 12 episodes and there are 3 more volumes, so you do the maths! Personally I think it is VERY unlikely that there will be another season, but they may well produce an OVA for the final volume. Anime went past volume 5 and cut out some stuff from volume 5. |
| Might you be referring to this? http://www.someanithing.com/1108/comment-page-1#comment-1036 What's being said there is that the mangaka was asked about whether the manga was cancelled and she gave a "no comment" answer. I agree that there's definitely a point of poor manga sales which would justify a publisher cancelling a series (and Mangirl *may* have hit it, we just don't have confirmation that it did). But, as you said, that varies heavily based on the publisher, author, magazine, and series involved. I'm just not a fan of making assumptions regarding what that point was and whether or not a given series hit it, given the large number of unknowns typically present and counterrexamples typically available. |
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| As far as I know, the ending of the manga has nothing to do with the success or non-success of the anime adaptation. There has been speculation even before this announcement that the manga will end on volume 7 as it matches the number of days in a week, further emphasizing the title of the work. |
arsonal said: As far as I know, the ending of the manga has nothing to do with the success or non-success of the anime adaptation. There has been speculation even before this announcement that the manga will end on volume 7 as it matches the number of days in a week, further emphasizing the title of the work. Yeah sorry we were getting OT as the manga in question was not Issuukan Friends. I'm sure in this case the author and publisher had it planned, and in particular the anime was planned to be 1 cour only to pump the manga sales into the following year. |
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ReaperCreeper said: Please no, it better not.I bet they'll go for an ambiguous friendship ending. |
| Hoping things will be finished by doing an OVAS or at least a movie (unlikely) I dont like the ending the anime, they should be a couple instead of being friendzoned and friendzoning >.> |
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| I'm not interrested with this manga for my part :c |
| J'ai toujours eu ce sentiment un peu étrange d'être comme extérieur à mon corps. Cette impression de flotter quelque part au dessus, ou d'être dans une salle de cinéma, assis au fond, en train de regarder un long film interminable et à attendre que quelque chose se passe. Cette impression de lutter pour devoir rester éveillé, cette envie d'attraper le personnage principal pour lui dire de se bouger, sans cependant pouvoir rien faire sans briser l'écran. |
| Alright, if this story seriously goes the friendship route I'm gonna fly to Japan myself and punch the author straight in the face. Halfway through volume 6 and I honestly don't see this ending with friendship. Click if you want. |
| Sadly all good things must come to an end! |
| damn |
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