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Jul 22, 2014 12:51 AM
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Family considers killing 10-year-old daughter after mullah rapes her in Afghanistan mosque



Dr. Hassina Sarwari, the head of Women for Afghan Women, showed photos of a girl who reported being raped by a mullah.

Rod Nordland, The New York Times said:
It was bad enough that the alleged rape took place in the sanctity of a mosque and that the accused man was a mullah who invoked the familiar defense that it had been consensual sex.

But the victim was only 10 years old. And there was more: The authorities said her family members openly planned to carry out an honour killing in the case – against the young girl. The mullah offered to marry his victim instead.

This past week, the awful matter became even worse. On Tuesday, local policemen removed the girl from the shelter that had given her refuge and returned her to her family, despite complaints from women’s activists that she was likely to be killed.


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Rod Nordland, The New York Times said:
The accused mullah, Mohammad Amin, was arrested and confessed to having sex with the girl after Koran recitation classes at the mosque on May 1, but he claimed that he thought the girl was older and that she responded to his advances.

The girl’s own testimony, and medical evidence, supported a rape so violent that it caused a fistula, or a break in the wall between the vagina and rectum, according to the police and the official bill of indictment. She bled so profusely after the attack that she was at one point in danger of losing her life because of a delay in getting medical care.

After the two women’s officials began speaking out about the case, they started receiving threatening calls from mullahs – some of them Taliban, others on the government side – and from arbakai, or pro-government militiamen. One of their claims was that the girl was actually 17, and thus of marriageable age, not 10.




tl;dr: Muslim mullah rapes a 10-year old girl inside of a mosque, says he thought she was older, family considers killing her and dumping the body in the river.

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So what their saying is that the 10-year old girl looked like more of a 17-year old, thus it was ok to rape here.
Although she was raped, her family still wants to kill her in the name of "honor preservation" aka "honor killing".
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Jul 22, 2014 1:08 AM
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That's honestly just... disgusting.
I feel so sorry for the girl.

Rape is rape, no matter what age they are, so whether or not she was considered of legal age is irrelevant. I'm not sure why they're making that such a big deal. I'm pretty sure that it would be relatively easy to tell if the girl wasn't responding in the affirmative to the man's advances, so that's just another crappy excuse.
Jul 22, 2014 1:31 AM
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Oh wow, the rapist was arrested? That's more than I expected.
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Jul 22, 2014 1:34 AM
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A fistula doesn't sound fun.
Jul 22, 2014 2:43 AM
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Ahh what the hell are they thinking -_-
They should punish that Ahole not the poor girl .
Jul 22, 2014 3:59 AM
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We are all equal.
Jul 22, 2014 9:34 PM
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A7MAD111 said:
Ahh what the hell are they thinking -_-


Nothing.
Jul 22, 2014 9:37 PM
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hentai_proxy said:
A7MAD111 said:
Ahh what the hell are they thinking -_-


Nothing.


Wrong, they're thinking about killing the little girl
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Jul 22, 2014 9:41 PM
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DerpHole said:
hentai_proxy said:


Nothing.


Wrong, they're thinking about killing the little girl


Nope, no thought process between impulse and decision.
Jul 22, 2014 9:43 PM

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Shouldn't they kill the mullah instead, he deserves it.


Jul 22, 2014 9:46 PM

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hentai_proxy said:
DerpHole said:


Wrong, they're thinking about killing the little girl


Nope, no thought process between impulse and decision.


I'm sure they'd have to think about how they're going to kill her
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Jul 22, 2014 9:47 PM
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Hoppy said:
Shouldn't they kill the mullah instead, he deserves it.


Requires initiating a thought process; involves challenging religious supremacy and imprinted social values they were trained to follow automatically.
Jul 22, 2014 10:11 PM

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Just awful. Poor kid.

And police removed her from a shelter in order to return her to her family? What the hell. The whole point of a shelter is... shelter. If she wasn't a criminal they had no business sticking their noses in this at all.

What a fucking mess.
Jul 23, 2014 12:47 AM

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The rapist is disgusting and the family is even worse.
Jul 23, 2014 12:49 AM
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Sinyan said:
The rapist is disgusting and the family is even worse.
I would say the rapist is worse.
Jul 23, 2014 1:10 AM

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Gekishin said:
Sinyan said:
The rapist is disgusting and the family is even worse.
I would say the rapist is worse.

Maybe so but they're all so terrible that I don't think it makes much of a difference.
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hentai_proxy said:
Hoppy said:
Shouldn't they kill the mullah instead, he deserves it.


Requires initiating a thought process; involves challenging religious supremacy and imprinted social values they were trained to follow automatically.
Pretty much correct. Sharia, for example, while explicitly forbidding rape and meting out hefty punishment, requires multiple male witnesses to testify against the perpetrator. The number, which is four, is arbitrary and supposedly relates to three witnesses telling Mohammed one of his favorite wives was an adulterer - he demanded a fourth since he didn't wish to believe it.
Sadly, if there are not at least four male witnesses (in theory, eight women might be sufficient, but in practice . . . ), and the perpetrator does not himself confess, Sharia provides no mechanism to protect the victim or punish the perpetrator. In fact, the accusation of rape instead becomes an admission of having sex, which can lead to honor killings and punishment for adultery.

Traditional Islamic law can be very good at ignoring the obvious. Only when western values and legal framework are included and applied do rape victims have much of a chance in Islamic countries. One reason sick stuff like this happens is that the perpetrators know they can and will get away with it.


Thankfully, even most Islamic nations have imported aspects of western law into their systems, with this area being one of the most obvious. Unfortunately, their veracity in maintaining those protections varies quite heavily, just as India, which also has long had anti-rape laws, is only just starting to address structural problems in adhering to and administering them.
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ErwinJA said:
hentai_proxy said:


Requires initiating a thought process; involves challenging religious supremacy and imprinted social values they were trained to follow automatically.
Pretty much correct. Sharia, for example, while explicitly forbidding rape and meting out hefty punishment, requires multiple male witnesses to testify against the perpetrator. The number, which is four, is arbitrary and supposedly relates to three witnesses telling Mohammed one of his favorite wives was an adulterer - he demanded a fourth since he didn't wish to believe it.
Sadly, if there are not at least four male witnesses (in theory, eight women might be sufficient, but in practice . . . ), and the perpetrator does not himself confess, Sharia provides no mechanism to protect the victim or punish the perpetrator. In fact, the accusation of rape instead becomes an admission of having sex, which can lead to honor killings and punishment for adultery.

Traditional Islamic law can be very good at ignoring the obvious. Only when western values and legal framework are included and applied do rape victims have much of a chance in Islamic countries. One reason sick stuff like this happens is that the perpetrators know they can and will get away with it.


Thankfully, even most Islamic nations have imported aspects of western law into their systems, with this area being one of the most obvious. Unfortunately, their veracity in maintaining those protections varies quite heavily, just as India, which also has long had anti-rape laws, is only just starting to address structural problems in adhering to and administering them.


Actually you are giving assumptions about both Islam and the event ,where Aisha was accused with adultery ,but no there was no witnesses only accusers . She was proven innocent .

The situation here is these people are ignorant of their own laws . The four witnesses needed to prove adultery/rape are correct ,but quite hard to even happen till our time. I am sure you heard of this ,but one guy in the prophet time came and try to confess that he did adultery ,but the prophets drives him away ,but he comes back . In the end he confessed and was punished .

In this case DNA comes to aid in this difficult situation and pretty much finish the deal . Define an Islamic nation ? Actually there is none . You can clearly see that every Arabic country has wine and interest ,while Islam prohibits these things ,so no there is no Islamic nation ,but people like to make labels .

It's your own opinion think that the western legal laws are superior to Sharia ,which is fine . Yet when people are blind to do the obvious it's not Islam's fault ,but theirs for being not informed and the honor killing is another thing made by whoever out there found it honoring -_-

Protecting the girl is obvious ,but what they are doing is stupid . Just to make it clear there is no Traditional Islamic law , it's Sharia and it's part of the Islam and again it's an assumption of your side
Jul 24, 2014 4:00 AM
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Do they want to kill their daughter because their family name has been degraded by her or is does their religion have something to do with it?
Jul 24, 2014 6:51 AM
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ErwinJA said:
hentai_proxy said:


Requires initiating a thought process; involves challenging religious supremacy and imprinted social values they were trained to follow automatically.
Pretty much correct. Sharia, for example, while explicitly forbidding rape and meting out hefty punishment, requires multiple male witnesses to testify against the perpetrator. The number, which is four, is arbitrary and supposedly relates to three witnesses telling Mohammed one of his favorite wives was an adulterer - he demanded a fourth since he didn't wish to believe it.
Sadly, if there are not at least four male witnesses (in theory, eight women might be sufficient, but in practice . . . ), and the perpetrator does not himself confess, Sharia provides no mechanism to protect the victim or punish the perpetrator. In fact, the accusation of rape instead becomes an admission of having sex, which can lead to honor killings and punishment for adultery.

Traditional Islamic law can be very good at ignoring the obvious. Only when western values and legal framework are included and applied do rape victims have much of a chance in Islamic countries. One reason sick stuff like this happens is that the perpetrators know they can and will get away with it.


Thankfully, even most Islamic nations have imported aspects of western law into their systems, with this area being one of the most obvious. Unfortunately, their veracity in maintaining those protections varies quite heavily, just as India, which also has long had anti-rape laws, is only just starting to address structural problems in adhering to and administering them.


Facts should be pointed out. Although am not a Muslim but i should say the truth. The four witnesses rule was mentioned in the Qur'an, and supposedly for making the convection very hard, and in some cases impossible, because where are you going to get four men witness that have seen two adulterers or a rapist while raping his victim? So that the criminal gets away with it, or/and maybe marry his victim.

You see there, yet again, god always favors the evil side.
Jul 24, 2014 6:55 AM

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I find that, in light of all of these kinds of incidents, people vehemently defending sharia are little more than complete zealots.

They're practically brainwashed.
Jul 24, 2014 7:31 AM

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No. Not this shit again. What the fuck kind of madness is this. The situation of women in Afghanistan and just the overall situation in the country make me feel indescribable frustration and despair. It just seems fucked up beyond all hope of repair. Things like this make me wish -- no, I'll shut up.

Just kill me.
Jul 24, 2014 7:35 AM
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can't we just like remove religion from the planet altogether already? -.-
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BeyondNero said:
ErwinJA said:
Pretty much correct. Sharia, for example, while explicitly forbidding rape and meting out hefty punishment, requires multiple male witnesses to testify against the perpetrator. The number, which is four, is arbitrary and supposedly relates to three witnesses telling Mohammed one of his favorite wives was an adulterer - he demanded a fourth since he didn't wish to believe it.
Sadly, if there are not at least four male witnesses (in theory, eight women might be sufficient, but in practice . . . ), and the perpetrator does not himself confess, Sharia provides no mechanism to protect the victim or punish the perpetrator. In fact, the accusation of rape instead becomes an admission of having sex, which can lead to honor killings and punishment for adultery.

Traditional Islamic law can be very good at ignoring the obvious. Only when western values and legal framework are included and applied do rape victims have much of a chance in Islamic countries. One reason sick stuff like this happens is that the perpetrators know they can and will get away with it.


Thankfully, even most Islamic nations have imported aspects of western law into their systems, with this area being one of the most obvious. Unfortunately, their veracity in maintaining those protections varies quite heavily, just as India, which also has long had anti-rape laws, is only just starting to address structural problems in adhering to and administering them.


Facts should be pointed out. Although am not a Muslim but i should say the truth. The four witnesses rule was mentioned in the Qur'an, and supposedly for making the convection very hard, and in some cases impossible, because where are you going to get four men witness that have seen two adulterers or a rapist while raping his victim? So that the criminal gets away with it, or/and maybe marry his victim.

You see there, yet again, god always favors the evil side.


I applaud you for your honesty ,but I disagree with your last sentence .

I forgot to add this :Physical evidence - Even in early Islamic history, many Islamic jurists accepted physical evidence to prove a woman's lack of consent. As forensic science becomes more adept at providing physical evidence of sexual assault, such evidence is more commonly accepted.

source :http://islam.about.com/od/crime/f/rape.htm
Jul 24, 2014 11:14 AM

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This is disgusting. And this happened in a mosque..
Well, the Islam itself is perfect, but Muslims are not, no matter if you're a mullah vor not.
So please don't blame Religion for sad incidents like these.
Jul 24, 2014 11:20 AM

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I gotta give props to the guy for at least fooling with a girl. Not like the priests over here who only diddle little boys.
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Jul 24, 2014 12:05 PM
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Considers mmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmm

When she get killed's you can brag about it mmmkay?
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