why isn't this more popular?

Onuma said:


Except that these references never existed in the first place. Kunato liked Hoshijiro, but they never got to have some kind of sexual relationship.

UnsightlyWalrus said:
The scene where Tanikaze blacked out and woke up in some medical room with the Captain playing a nurse, Captain called Kunato (to escort Tanikaze to class) who refused because he was "busy" with a girl. I guess LordLagann mistook that girl for Hoshijiro. Captain called Hoshijiro next who in fact was available proving that the girl wasn't Hoshijiro.

Sadly the anime decided to leave out that particular detail.

Onuma said:


Yeah, I thought that was the case. And I think they did well cutting this scene. For the sake of his character, they changed that scene in the gravity festival too (where he was with yet another girl).

These scenes in particular, would only further denigrate his image.

LordLagann said:


My mistake, I did mistook those girls but I still believe it's an important scene which was left out. Kunato's role is the heartless overachiever who tramples over people to achieve his success. Right now he's just playing asshole of the month. The choppy character animations and lack of body parts flying around is just playing towards forgetting how despicable Kunato really is.

LeFlower-kun said:
Sorry, but Ping Pong takes shits on Sidonia. All the previous comments complaining about the art just made me cringe.

Fai said:


Except not.

His role is a highschool bully who does something rash and ends up deeply regretting it.

Anime already ruined that characterization by making him look far more irredeemable than in the manga.

kokkoderrisch said:
Everyone's too busy watching their shitty Mahouka and NGNL.

Newhopes said:


NGNL is by far the best show of the season, haven't seen a show thats kept me this entertained since hataraku maou-sama last year.


Sidonia is the second best definitely better than Mahouka.

cupc said:


I love porn, porn must be the best genre then!

potplant said:
Err...Sidonia is...pretty generic as well. It has a decent score, and didn't make too many mistakes via not revealing much too quickly, but the premise/direction/pace in general is about as 'safe' as it can be in this genre...

potplant said:
Or...a generic mc coming out of nowhere to become the only defense of humanity just because like every other mecha show before this. A mc that errs and uhhs through his way merely pushed along by every other characters but with no personality of his own, other than plot armour 'destiny' because he's so so very special for reasons not yet revealed. Characters in this show are just one dimensional, and the only saving grace is its somewhat bleak settings.

For what it is worth Tanikaze could just be a self-propelled semi-sentient Kabizashi and it would not have made a difference to the story.

So what's so edgy about this writing? The fact that Tanikaze is 'immortal'? How can you describe Sidonia as a utilitarian state when the nature of utility itself is not yet explained to assess the actions character's take? Is it the death count? Well I don't really care about characters dying when the portrayal are so weak. None of the points are explored in much depth to make them significant.

OnionSoda said:
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1) Generic char. Nope. Did you see what he told to Kunato after his betrayal? That's not a generic character.
Yes, he is being pushed along, but... What do you really expect from someone who lived 17 years in seclution with an old man? He makes perfect sense. The only character that looks one dimensional is Hoshijiro, and even her makes sense.

2) Were you paying attention? He was RAISED a pilot by the very best pilot ever. And no, he is not "the chosen one", they actually want him to get killed

3)The council, the main source of work being warfare, no democracy, people being promoted in order to be send to die...
Definitely not a nice place to choose to live

That and the cosmic horror story makes it is dark and cruel, but not unnecessarily.

Fai said:
An Immortal young man who lives in an utilitarian-state dystopian ship full of genetic experiments is recruited to fight cosmic horrors in situations where 99% of characters get massacred as if it was no big deal.

"Safe" writing that is not

Wind_Falcon said:
It should be noted that the manga itself is pretty trollish - at least for the average Japanese otaku (and some western fans which are used to otaku pandering it seems).

It's a thin line, but a lot of the jokes the manga author makes with the world and the characters are more than they seem on a superficial level. Most of these jokes the average reader/viewer won't even register as jokes - they'll think of them as "the most cliche thing in existence" and regard the story and characters as predictable and uninteresting (and the ones with more mainstream taste among them might even find them genuinely entertaining, which is a trap laid by the author), but older Nihei fans will be having a lot of fun with these same cliches because they know exactly why Nihei included them, what previous tropes that he used in his previous manga he's subverting and making fun of mainstream manga/anime by playing them seemingly straight faced, and what is it's meta function.

wat said:
Could you expand on this some more and give me some examples from the anime/manga? I'm very new to anime and manga so there is a lot of stuff I don't pick up on but what you said is really interesting to me.

catullus said:
thats just your incorrect opinion and yes opinions can be incorrect. My opinion is a fact because its the only one igaf about.

Id rather stab myself in the eyes than watch ping pong.