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| At home. Learn to read the kanas and some basic grammar and then try to read manga in Japanese. Takes some time but eventually you'll understand it. |
| Proud founder of the 20+ virgins club. Please visit my manga blog for manga updates and more! Mup da doo didda po mo muhfuggen bix nood ^ Need someone who can translate this. Pm me pls. |
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| Anime and i can only speak few line or words but i can understand most of it |
| Life is Fun! Yeah,try chanting that 10,000 times each day! it will mess with your head,and all your pain will disappear |
ryuushogi said: Anime and i can only speak few line or words but i can understand most of it So you don't know Japanese but you can understand it? :/ |
| Aliis si licet, tibi non licet. |
| I never fully learned it, but learned a bit from a Japanse language Aid that was hosted by a university for free. Thats been taken down now of course. |
| From the back of a ramen pouch. |
| I got a montage to help me, |
| i learned from boku no pico |
| Native speaker. But I'm surprised no one has said "2chan" yet. w |
| group lessons for a year and on my own after that. When you learn it by yourself you can't be so organized anymore.. so if you want faster results just start with classes (online college course?) or a private teacher lol |
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| Took some in college, went over there for a while and studied more. Haven't been able to really improve my skills for a while, but I try to at least maintain by watching anime and listening closely to dialogue and by writing to Japanese friends. |
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| I learned basic hiragana/katakana from Nama-sensei. It's a shame he barely makes videos anymore. |
BarryManilow said: I lol'ed at this one.http://translate.google.com/ Takaoreo said: Anime/Language Courses in College. It's not that hard, just devote time and energy when your mind is clear enough to do so. |
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| I didn't. EDIT: EWWW my 100th post was this? GAH! |
| Everyone I've ever known or heard about who was actually multilingual (as in fluent, as opposed to just picking up on phrases) either grew up learning more than one language, or lived in a place where everyone spoke a language that they did not. Language is a social thing, it's not something you're really gonna be able to learn fully by yourself, no matter how you go about it. |
| There is not much to gain from learning japanese other than lack of needing subs. Learning either Mandarin or Cantonese would be incredibly useful in life, albeit japanese is easier to learn OP. Classes/online classes is your best bet at learning it. |
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Miyata- said: There is not much to gain from learning japanese other than lack of needing subs. Learning either Mandarin or Cantonese would be incredibly useful in life, albeit japanese is easier to learn OP. Classes/online classes is your best bet at learning it. There is absolutely no need to ever learn more than one of the official UN languages. You will always be able to find a translator. ...unless you want to be a translator, I guess. |
| I still have trouble reading Kanji properly but uhh my mon taught me since she lived in Nagoya for 8 years and I'm also taking Japanese class in HS |
R4vel said: I still have trouble reading Kanji properly but uhh my mon taught me since she lived in Nagoya for 8 years and I'm also taking Japanese class in HS Huh, I wish I had the option of taking Japanese. My highschool only offered French, Spanish and Latin. |
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bunny_lover said: BarryManilow said: I lol'ed at this one.http://translate.google.com/ You can actually make that work fairly well, as long as you stick to extremely proper grammar, spell everything perfectly, avoid all contractions, abbreviations, acronyms, slang, passive voice, idioms, metaphors, etc. and split everything into multiple simple sentences, rather than having one long complex one. A good way to tell if it's being translated correctly or not is to copy the output and translate that back, and see how much it changes it. |
sargos7 said: Miyata- said: There is not much to gain from learning japanese other than lack of needing subs. Learning either Mandarin or Cantonese would be incredibly useful in life, albeit japanese is easier to learn OP. Classes/online classes is your best bet at learning it. There is absolutely no need to ever learn more than one of the official UN languages. You will always be able to find a translator. ...unless you want to be a translator, I guess. Not really helpful if you have business in either Japan or China though. China being a upcoming major superpower an all it would benefit a person with business interest to learn mandarin. |
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Miyata- said: There is not much to gain from learning japanese other than lack of needing subs. Learning either Mandarin or Cantonese would be incredibly useful in life, albeit japanese is easier to learn OP. Classes/online classes is your best bet at learning it. Whoops, totally misread that. Post deleted. |
| I'm currently learning it at a Japanese Language school. You can learn it on your own by buying some good books, language tapes, talking with native speakers etc. |
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Miyata- said: Not really helpful if you have business in either Japan or China though. China being a upcoming major superpower an all it would benefit a person with business interest to learn mandarin. If you're talking about doing business in China, and you actually have to have direct contact with your business partners, chances are you're a board member of a large corporation... in which case, you'll have translators on your payroll... Unless you mean actually living in China, running a tea shop or something... There's a reason why being a translator is a job. Business people go to business school to learn how to run a business. That takes a lot of time and money. And once they start their career, they never have free time. It would be irresponsible for a business person to not hire a translator, if they are doing business with another country that speaks another language. |
sargos7 said: Miyata- said: Not really helpful if you have business in either Japan or China though. China being a upcoming major superpower an all it would benefit a person with business interest to learn mandarin. If you're talking about doing business in China, and you actually have to have direct contact with your business partners, chances are you're a board member of a large corporation... in which case, you'll have translators on your payroll... Unless you mean actually living in China, running a tea shop or something... There's a reason why being a translator is a job. Business people go to business school to learn how to run a business. That takes a lot of time and money. And once they start their career, they never have free time. It would be irresponsible for a business person to not hire a translator, if they are doing business with another country that speaks another language. As I said learning mandarin would be beneficial and helpful. Nowhere did I bash translators in my post, also you seem to have the most simplistic idea of business. I won't go into this further. I leave you with this though.. "Several companies based in the United States conduct business in China and have long-term investments there (and with more companies wanting to conduct business with China, the country would take preference toward businesspeople who can speak their native language, Mandarin, rather than English)." |
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Miyata- said: you seem to have the most simplistic idea of business Are you looking at this as a supply and demand problem? High demand and low supply for bilingual businessmen means they get paid more? The supply and demand view is the simple view... simple enough that they teach it in elementary school... There's a lot more than just how badly they want to do business with you. Typically, the only time you have customers crawling all over you anyway is when you either aren't turning a profit, or more likely when you're losing money. Perhaps the Chinese companies would prefer to do business with people who speak their language. But why? Perhaps it's just part of their culture, and it makes them more comfortable, in which case it's not likely to be a deal breaker. But the more time you spend on learning Chinese, the less time you spend learning how to do business. In other words, you are more likely to be inexperienced and easy to manipulate. That's profitable for them, not you. |
sargos7 said: Miyata- said: you seem to have the most simplistic idea of business Are you looking at this as a supply and demand problem? High demand and low supply for bilingual businessmen means they get paid more? The supply and demand view is the simple view... simple enough that they teach it in elementary school... There's a lot more than just how badly they want to do business with you. Typically, the only time you have customers crawling all over you anyway is when you either aren't turning a profit, or more likely when you're losing money. Perhaps the Chinese companies would prefer to do business with people who speak their language. But why? Perhaps it's just part of their culture, and it makes them more comfortable, in which case it's not likely to be a deal breaker. But the more time you spend on learning Chinese, the less time you spend learning how to do business. In other words, you are more likely to be inexperienced and easy to manipulate. That's profitable for them, not you. I believe you took some time out to go out of your way to answer my post even though I said I wouldn't go into it further, I atleast owe you a reply. It is clear to me and anyone with some business sense that you have a major lack of knowledge when it comes to business. Which is completely fine as long as business isn't your profession that I assume. And just to be clear I wasn't looking at this from a simple supply and demand level you basically clarified my last post which funnily enough you quoted. Miyata- said: you seem to have the most simplistic idea of business |
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Miyata- said: I believe you took some time out to go out of your way to answer my post even though I said I wouldn't go into it further, I atleast owe you a reply. It is clear to me and anyone with some business sense that you have a major lack of knowledge when it comes to business. Which is completely fine as long as business isn't your profession that I assume. And just to be clear I wasn't looking at this from a simple supply and demand level you basically clarified my last post which funnily enough you quoted. Miyata- said: you seem to have the most simplistic idea of business No need to be so condescending. If you must know, I'm an IT major, and I make no claims to be a business expert. But please, if what I said is really as wrong as you claim it is, why don't you explain why, rather than just continuing to repeat yourself. I like to learn. |
Miyata- said: There is not much to gain from learning japanese other than lack of needing subs. + manga, novels, games, dramas, vomics, music... Japan has the best entertainment in the world and only a fraction of it is translated into English. sargos7 said: You can actually make that work fairly well, as long as you stick to extremely proper grammar, spell everything perfectly, avoid all contractions, abbreviations, acronyms, slang, passive voice, idioms, metaphors, etc. and split everything into multiple simple sentences, rather than having one long complex one. A good way to tell if it's being translated correctly or not is to copy the output and translate that back, and see how much it changes it. The best way of using gtl is to just let it translate single words and do the grammar yourself. Or just use a dictionary. |
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sargos7 said: Miyata- said: I believe you took some time out to go out of your way to answer my post even though I said I wouldn't go into it further, I atleast owe you a reply. It is clear to me and anyone with some business sense that you have a major lack of knowledge when it comes to business. Which is completely fine as long as business isn't your profession that I assume. And just to be clear I wasn't looking at this from a simple supply and demand level you basically clarified my last post which funnily enough you quoted. Miyata- said: you seem to have the most simplistic idea of business No need to be so condescending. If you must know, I'm an IT major, and I make no claims to be a business expert. But please, if what I said is really as wrong as you claim it is, why don't you explain why, rather than just continuing to repeat yourself. I like to learn. Unfortunately for you I am not here to teach. Try a part time business course if you are that interested to learn. |
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Miyata- said: sargos7 said: Miyata- said: I believe you took some time out to go out of your way to answer my post even though I said I wouldn't go into it further, I atleast owe you a reply. It is clear to me and anyone with some business sense that you have a major lack of knowledge when it comes to business. Which is completely fine as long as business isn't your profession that I assume. And just to be clear I wasn't looking at this from a simple supply and demand level you basically clarified my last post which funnily enough you quoted. Miyata- said: you seem to have the most simplistic idea of business No need to be so condescending. If you must know, I'm an IT major, and I make no claims to be a business expert. But please, if what I said is really as wrong as you claim it is, why don't you explain why, rather than just continuing to repeat yourself. I like to learn. Unfortunately for you I am not here to teach. Try a part time business course if you are that interested to learn. Unfortunately for you, there's this thing called research... which I just did... way to use a quote from a random unknown blog post on yahoo voices, as if it's some sort of credible authoritative voice on the matter. All of a sudden, I'm taking you a lot less seriously. |
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sargos7 said: Miyata- said: sargos7 said: Miyata- said: I believe you took some time out to go out of your way to answer my post even though I said I wouldn't go into it further, I atleast owe you a reply. It is clear to me and anyone with some business sense that you have a major lack of knowledge when it comes to business. Which is completely fine as long as business isn't your profession that I assume. And just to be clear I wasn't looking at this from a simple supply and demand level you basically clarified my last post which funnily enough you quoted. Miyata- said: you seem to have the most simplistic idea of business No need to be so condescending. If you must know, I'm an IT major, and I make no claims to be a business expert. But please, if what I said is really as wrong as you claim it is, why don't you explain why, rather than just continuing to repeat yourself. I like to learn. Unfortunately for you I am not here to teach. Try a part time business course if you are that interested to learn. Unfortunately for you, there's this thing called research... which I just did... way to use a quote from a random unknown blog post on yahoo voices, as if it's some sort of credible authoritative voice on the matter. All of a sudden, I'm taking you a lot less seriously. Its not a authoritative voice but is common sense to anyone who understands business. I just didn't want to type it all out myself and you really expected me to get my old books out to quote you? You yourself kindly pointed out that you're a IT Major please just stick to your field, and leave the business talk to those who actually studied business. |
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