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Mar 12, 2014 1:38 AM
#41
Sooo, nobody else think that ressurecting the dead is wrong? He really shouldn't revive her, because then has te obligation to revive others. And people gonna be mad, if someone can revive their loved ones and but won't do it, when he did it for himself. Dead people should stay dead. |
Mar 12, 2014 1:49 AM
#42
great speech by kon but 2 more episodes? : was expecting more action but not much this episode D: Frontalbrise said: Sooo, nobody else think that ressurecting the dead is wrong? He really shouldn't revive her, because then has te obligation to revive others. And people gonna be mad, if someone can revive their loved ones and but won't do it, when he did it for himself. Dead people should stay dead. he's practically Jesus. He can do whatever he wants :| |
Mar 12, 2014 2:23 AM
#43
Zeally said: Not even Jesus played necromancer. Sure, he came back himself (only to go to heaven anyway), but he didn't raise the dead. At least as far as I know.he's practically Jesus. He can do whatever he wants :| |
Mar 12, 2014 2:30 AM
#44
Frontalbrise said: Sooo, nobody else think that ressurecting the dead is wrong? He really shouldn't revive her, because then has te obligation to revive others. And people gonna be mad, if someone can revive their loved ones and but won't do it, when he did it for himself. Dead people should stay dead. That has nothing to do with why he wants to revive Natsume. Harutora's doing it out of sense guilt and atonement. He doesn't have any obligations to anyone else but her. |
Mar 12, 2014 5:20 AM
#45
Frontalbrise said: Sooo, nobody else think that ressurecting the dead is wrong? Nope. If I had the power to bring back someone dear to me, especially if I killed them myself by mistake, I sure as hell would do it. Screw everyone else, it's my life and my powers. Also, no, you couldn't just bring anyone and everyone back to life. You'd have to bind that soul to a powerful shaman that would sustain the existence. |
Mar 12, 2014 5:54 AM
#46
A lot better than the meh episode last week. Frontalbrise said: I do think it's wrong to resurrect a dead one. When someone dies, they die. I do not approve of necromancy anyway. Even if I had the power to resurrect someone dear to me, I wouldn't.Sooo, nobody else think that ressurecting the dead is wrong? He really shouldn't revive her, because then has te obligation to revive others. And people gonna be mad, if someone can revive their loved ones and but won't do it, when he did it for himself. Dead people should stay dead. And does that fan means the Chief is still alive? |
Mar 12, 2014 7:23 AM
#48
kickmesign said: Why does Kyouko keep thinking about Tenma? How did Harutora wipe the message off the window if the spider was on the other side of the glass? edit: I figured it out. MAGIC happened Well, what I am thinking is that when Harutora learned that it is a shikigami, he uses his own blood to write letters. And the spider did his job and trace the letters to tell Harutora who the enemy is. Since, we clearly saw Harutora's thumb is wounded/bleeding. |
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Mar 12, 2014 7:33 AM
#49
Frontalbrise said: Zeally said: Not even Jesus played necromancer. Sure, he came back himself (only to go to heaven anyway), but he didn't raise the dead. At least as far as I know.he's practically Jesus. He can do whatever he wants :| Jesus actually raised the dead,once. Why? Because he was his best friend. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lazarus_of_Bethany Can somebody tell me wtf is happening in a quick synopsis?the anime does a shitty job at explaining shit,why do they want Harutora,who are allies with whom,i just dont get it. |
Taimanin_IreliaMar 12, 2014 7:39 AM
Mar 12, 2014 7:39 AM
#50
Flaecy said: damn cant wait for kon's true form Spoiler -_- At least, put a spoiler tag on it. |
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Mar 12, 2014 8:41 AM
#51
Mar 12, 2014 9:07 AM
#52
FrozenRemains said: Can somebody tell me wtf is happening in a quick synopsis?the anime does a shitty job at explaining shit,why do they want Harutora,who are allies with whom,i just dont get it. NOT A SPOILER, adding tags just to avoid wall of text in this post. 1. Souma Clan has familial history with both Tsuchimikado and Kurahashi. Kurahashi was a branch family and Souma supported Tsuchimikado clan providing military support in WW II. Tsuchimikado family head, Yakou was also the head of the first Onmyo Agency and created the imperial magic (strongest magic), this magic was later simplified into a new system called Common magic. 2. Harutora was confirmed as Yakou's reincarnation, Kurahashi wants Harutora along with Souma Clan/ Souma Princess Takiko to create a better magic system and help onymoudo achieve new heights. 3. Doman "D" who had connections with Dual Horn Syndicate was defeated and as a matter of appreciation he accepted his defeat and now is helping Ohtomo as a reward for winning the battle. (episode 14) Souma Clan and Kurahashi clan head Kurahashi Genji are allied with each other, they wanted to revive Yakou. In episode 16 it was explained (in a bad way by the anime) that Yakou had two 'wills'. One was to raise new onymouji (Onmyo Academy) and there was another will which has not been explained in the source material yet. Takiko claims that she/Souma clan has inherited Yakou's 'other will'. The original Twin Horn which did not contained mindless fanatics inherited Yakou's other will as well. Takiko is a member of the original Twin Horn Syndicate. 3. What Kurahashi Genji wants is more like a puppet ruler with Yakou's reincarnation serving as the puppet so that Onmyo Agency can achieve status in political terms and not just to only purify Spiritual Disasters left by Yakou during his failed Soul Manipulation magic in WW II era. You could say, Kurahashi Genji wants Power and nothing else. This explains the real antagonist in the series are Kurahashi Genji, Souma Clan (but Takiko is a good person for now, I consider her as a good person I guess) and maybe Onmyo Agency. Since Yakou created the modern onymoudo he might as well know many secrets of magic so Kurahashi also want Yakou to reveal those secrets. (Well this sentence was made up, I'm just speculating this because of all the Yakou quotes we see at the end-credits.) 4. Harutora is not sure what to do now. To side with Kurahashi and Souma or to go his own way and revive Natsume. In this episode, he decides to refuse siding with Kurahashi and Souma. That's all I could answer, If I'm incorrect someone should correct me then. |
NuviMar 12, 2014 9:20 AM
Mar 12, 2014 9:36 AM
#53
Nuvi said: FrozenRemains said: Can somebody tell me wtf is happening in a quick synopsis?the anime does a shitty job at explaining shit,why do they want Harutora,who are allies with whom,i just dont get it. NOT A SPOILER, adding tags just to avoid wall of text in this post. 1. Souma Clan has familial history with both Tsuchimikado and Kurahashi. Kurahashi was a branch family and Souma supported Tsuchimikado clan providing military support in WW II. Tsuchimikado family head, Yakou was also the head of the first Onmyo Agency and created the imperial magic (strongest magic), this magic was later simplified into a new system called Common magic. 2. Harutora was confirmed as Yakou's reincarnation, Kurahashi wants Harutora along with Souma Clan/ Souma Princess Takiko to create a better magic system and help onymoudo achieve new heights. 3. Doman "D" who had connections with Dual Horn Syndicate was defeated and as a matter of appreciation he accepted his defeat and now is helping Ohtomo as a reward for winning the battle. (episode 14) Souma Clan and Kurahashi clan head Kurahashi Genji are allied with each other, they wanted to revive Yakou. In episode 16 it was explained (in a bad way by the anime) that Yakou had two 'wills'. One was to raise new onymouji (Onmyo Academy) and there was another will which has not been explained in the source material yet. Takiko claims that she/Souma clan has inherited Yakou's 'other will'. The original Twin Horn which did not contained mindless fanatics inherited Yakou's other will as well. Takiko is a member of the original Twin Horn Syndicate. 3. What Kurahashi Genji wants is more like a puppet ruler with Yakou's reincarnation serving as the puppet so that Onmyo Agency can achieve status in political terms and not just to only purify Spiritual Disasters left by Yakou during his failed Soul Manipulation magic in WW II era. You could say, Kurahashi Genji wants Power and nothing else. This explains the real antagonist in the series are Kurahashi Genji, Souma Clan (but Takiko is a good person for now, I consider her as a good person I guess) and maybe Onmyo Agency. Since Yakou created the modern onymoudo he might as well know many secrets of magic so Kurahashi also want Yakou to reveal those secrets. (Well this sentence was made up, I'm just speculating this because of all the Yakou quotes we see at the end-credits.) 4. Harutora is not sure what to do now. To side with Kurahashi and Souma or to go his own way and revive Natsume. In this episode, he decides to refuse siding with Kurahashi and Souma. That's all I could answer, If I'm incorrect someone should correct me then. So basicaly everyone wants Yakous magic powers or him revived,and Genji is villain nr 1 cause he wants a puppet leader,and Souma is villain nr 2 that will later possibly turn to the "good" side seeing how she wanted to befriend the group but for some reason (referring to the will) wanted to activate the raven cloak. They decided that they should ally, so both of them would get what they came for using the raven cloak on harutora and reviving yakous power,however natsume stopped the "transformation" by giving her life. But my question is that,so since Harutora is now refusing to help Omnyo guys,isnt he an enemy to the spirit seer world? Arent omnyo agency like the "police" of the magic users? Isnt he essentially a rebel along with his friends and teacher? Also im assuming this other will is along the lines of stop wars? Thanks for the explanation kind sir,i have the plot sort of sorted right now. I swear if pairings do not happen at the end,im gonna be very mad,oh you didnt torture me for 25 episodes waiting for a stupid confession to end in some pathetic way. |
Taimanin_IreliaMar 12, 2014 9:47 AM
Mar 12, 2014 9:55 AM
#54
Mar 12, 2014 10:09 AM
#56
facade63 said: fuck you kon Harutora teaming up with them would have been badass as fk. No way, he will be working alone (w/ Kon ofc) would be more badass. And I'm guessing he will since Taizan Fukun ritual is a crime and I'm sure he doesn't want his friends involved with him now that he is determined to do it by himself. Speaking of Kon, she's so much win in this episode <3 |
Mar 12, 2014 10:16 AM
#57
@FrozenRemains (tags for text wall again) FrozenRemains said: So basicaly everyone wants Yakous magic powers or him revived,and Genji is villain nr 1 cause he wants a puppet leader,and Souma is villain nr 2 that will later possibly turn to the "good" side seeing how she wanted to befriend the group but for some reason (referring to the will) wanted to activate the raven cloak. Well..yeah. >_> Seems you're getting it wrong. Genji doesn't want Yakou's 'power', he wants to gain power as in political system, maybe ruling over or something like that. FrozenRemains said: Other than Kurahashi and Souma clan supporting Yakou during WW II, they wanted to revive Yakou and this common goal was shared between them. That's why they are allied. They decided that they should ally, so both of them would get what they came for using the raven cloak on harutora and reviving yakous power, however natsume stopped the "transformation" by giving her life. FrozenRemains said: As of episode 22 why would Harutora be the enemy? It's just against the laws to research on Soul Manipulation Magic.But my question is that,so since Harutora is now refusing to help Omnyo guys,isnt he an enemy to the spirit seer world? Arent omnyo agency like the "police" of the magic users? Actually. Onmyo Agency consists of good people. It's their leader who is the bad guy here. Just because Genji is controlling Onmyo Agency, these divine generals and other onymouji have to follow his orders. Even if they have to do bad things for Genji. The Onymou Agency can only be considered enemy if they continue following the orders from their corrupt leader, Genji. FrozenRemains said: As of now, I don't see Harutora rebelling against his friends or his teachers. Harutora is only rebelling against Genji with their plans. I think this was explained better in this episode. In fact, Ohtomo only came here to rescue Harutora and this is the same case with Harutora's friends.Isnt he essentially a rebel along with his friends and teacher? FrozenRemains said: Also im assuming this other will is along the lines of stop wars? Not explained, speculations are always welcomed but I'm sure it's not as simple as that. FrozenRemains said: You're Welcome.Thanks for the explanation kind sir,i have the plot sort of sorted right now. I swear if pairings do not happen at the end,im gonna be very mad,oh you didnt torture me for 25 episodes waiting for a stupid confession to end in some pathetic way. 24 episodes and I too hope for that. Harutora x Natsume all the way I guess. |
Mar 12, 2014 10:27 AM
#58
@Nuvi I dont mean Harutora is the villain here,i mean that since that omnyo head guy has all the power as he is the head of the biggest mage department thats patronizing the rest of the mage society,he can go after him because haru wants to abuse soul manipulation and wont cooperate with him,though the non cooperation doesnt justify marking him as an enemy of the law,its surely going to be covered by some lie to get the rest of the mages on his side. That is why i think Harus in deep shit right now since Genji will hunt him down out of spite or duty or whatever,you name it,he has the power,he can abuse it as we've seen so far. Genji hunts down Haru=Omnyo agency hunts him down too,unless his scheming is uncovered. Also i didnt mean Haru to rebel against his friends/teachers,hes meant to be a rebel to the law=Omnyo agency. You know,i feel like this anime should be 2 seasons,i feel like lots of stuff has been left out from the manga i havent even read. |
Taimanin_IreliaMar 12, 2014 10:36 AM
Mar 12, 2014 10:41 AM
#59
FrozenRemains said: @Nuvi I dont mean Harutora is the villain here,i mean that since that omnyo head guy has all the power as he is the head of the biggest mage department thats patronizing the rest of the mage society,he can go after him because haru wants to abuse soul manipulation and wont cooperate with him,though the non cooperation doesnt justify marking him as an enemy of the law,its surely going to be covered by some lie to get the rest of the mages on his side. That is why i think Harus in deep shit right now since Genji will hunt him down out of spite or duty or whatever,you name it,he has the power,he can abuse it as we've seen so far. Genji hunts down Haru=Omnyo agency hunts him down too,unless his scheming is uncovered. Also i didnt mean Haru to rebel against his friends/teachers,hes meant to be a rebel to the law=Omnyo agency. Ah, looks like I misinterpreted the 'rebel' part here. Sorry about that. So yeah, Harutora, his friends and D/Ohtomo (maybe Suzu and Kakugyouki too) are rebelling against Onymo Agency. Yeah, if Harutora manages to perform Taizan Fukun then Genji could label him as a criminal. After all, what all Suzuka did in vol1 made her a criminal too. Yes, Harutora is in big trouble. Genji won't just give up on him yet, he could go to any extent to have 'Yakou' on his side. I think all your confusion is cleared up now. FrozenRemains said: You know,i feel like this anime should be 2 seasons,i feel like lots of stuff has been left out from the manga i havent even read. Anime sales are not good, the source material Light Novel is still on-going. And this anime adaptation is so rushed for my liking too but it's delivering fine I guess. I honestly don't think there will be season 2 and it's better off to read the Light Novel. And don't expect everything to be covered up in next 2 episodes, since the story is still on-going, vol1-9 was Part I and the author will expand more of the secrets in Part II, so can't really blame the anime here. |
NuviMar 12, 2014 9:39 PM
Mar 12, 2014 11:44 AM
#60
Frontalbrise said: Sooo, nobody else think that ressurecting the dead is wrong? He really shouldn't revive her, because then has te obligation to revive others. And people gonna be mad, if someone can revive their loved ones and but won't do it, when he did it for himself. Dead people should stay dead. I think Natsume's life was too cruel, and that's a big reason why he's trying to revive her. Besides the fact that she was his friend and he loves her, there's also the fact that she had an unfair life (having to lie to her friends about being a girl and staying indoors for most of her life), and then just suddenly dying like that. It's too cruel of a way to go. |
Mar 12, 2014 12:30 PM
#61
Well this was excellent. And Douman is badass giving two Generals a run for his money. Finally Ohtomo meets this asshole again, bleh.....was to be expected. Kou was absolutely badass, it set Harutora straight. And there are some surprising allies to take the scene here. And Touji reached destination. Time for a beating YEEHAH!! |
Mar 12, 2014 12:36 PM
#62
Mar 12, 2014 1:38 PM
#63
Kon saved the day - who would have thought. So the spider was the fan guy? Or sent from him? I thought he was dead... Touji looks bad-ass. |
Mar 12, 2014 3:42 PM
#64
Kon was amazing in this episode! I can't wait to see Touji fighting! |
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Mar 12, 2014 5:41 PM
#65
Mar 12, 2014 6:55 PM
#66
Kon to the rescue again. |
Mar 12, 2014 9:12 PM
#67
I think Doman is having fun :P Shadow vs the Ogre Eater, this should be fun. Kon FTW!!! The Chief guy is still alive :D |
Mar 13, 2014 6:35 AM
#68
Doman and Jin, such an awesome and scary combo...the 2 of them is enough to make most of the people in the agency shiver... Kon was awesome in this episode, she really knows her master well...she really stated the facts right, saying that Bakatora should revive Natsume on his own, he is the reincarnation of Yakou, and that is was Yakou who perfected the Taizan Fukun ritual...now that's what a familiar should be doing... and seriously, Bakatora should just calm down even for a second and think carefully of things... To think Amami-san is alive, well, old geezer just dont die that quickly...haha so many things happening at the same time in this episode...everybody getting fired up... next episode will be action filled! |
Mar 13, 2014 7:48 AM
#69
Btw guys. If you still haven't seen this. Tokyo Ravens newest CD cover album. Harutora x Natsume wearing an earphone. So kawaii!! ~ ♥ IMAGE LINK: https://31.media.tumblr.com/5a107a99672fb75d30b2ad18ba7aae9e/tumblr_n2e5spE8lw1rjwyb2o1_500.png |
zilch16Mar 13, 2014 7:30 PM
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Mar 13, 2014 9:43 AM
#70
Kon to the rescue! |
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Mar 13, 2014 4:37 PM
#71
Step aside Toji, Kon just knocked you of the 'best sidekick' place. Ohtomo still best BAMF. Amami, you sneaky son of a bitch :o man, if the show would had kept this pace from the beginning it would have been far more liked, im glad i decided to keep up with it. |
Mar 14, 2014 4:33 AM
#72
KON!!!! <3333!!! Amami is alive!! Yeahh! Goddam this show and it's cliffhangers ><!!! A awesome one at that! |
Mar 14, 2014 8:18 AM
#73
Too many badass battles which is a shame because I don't think they will be able to put the same amount of attention to all of them with just 2 episodes left :( Took Kon a while to show up and finally she has a cool part :) I hope Yakou's powerful familiars will re-appear to help him in the next 2 episodes :) |
Mar 15, 2014 3:18 AM
#74
5/5 The plot while presenting a somewhat lukewarm, he soon real possibilities of becoming explosive, fine. Narration usable, nothing epic, Tenma is hiding something. Drawings and animations that are lower than the level seen at the beginning, what a shame! |
Mar 15, 2014 11:54 AM
#75
harutora should kill souma where he see her then ressurect and kill her again and again , her being on bad mood for killing natsume is not enough, i know what happens in last 2 episode but i need to see some rage harutora action. |
Mar 15, 2014 1:41 PM
#76
Sick episode. Great advice by Kon and glad to see Amami back! I'm also curious as to what Kyoko is thinking. Next episode is definitely going to be epic. |
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Mar 16, 2014 4:51 AM
#77
Mar 16, 2014 10:22 PM
#78
Mar 18, 2014 6:49 AM
#79
Dear god. Kon...You surprised me tremendously. really kon, my respect for you just sky rocketed. I love you so much now. too bad the shows gonna end in 2 episodes.....WHYY. |
Mar 18, 2014 9:10 AM
#80
Heh, I knew you had it in you Kon, glad she stepped up to the plate there. I was almost expecting Harutora to actually become an antagonist for a second there, lol. Man, when it tries this series has some damned good action. I have to say, I really like how badass Suzuka's father is... I almost don't want to see him lose. It was weird to me how put off he was by Touji's appearance there... I guess he was just surprised. Same goes with Reiji... though I want Ootomo to beat him. I'm kind of confused about that fiery explosion though, I thought Doman did it at first... but why would Iwao do that to his comrades? Maybe it was something simple that I just missed, but I don't really understand that scene. Also wondering why it killed everyone in the building and looked like it wrecked the whole thing... yet the room where Harutora is didn't even seem be affected. |
Mar 18, 2014 9:26 AM
#81
HalibelTheEspada said: I was almost expecting Harutora to actually become an antagonist for a second there, lol. I would love to see your reaction if you ever try reading vol10 of LN in future. HalibelTheEspada said: I'm kind of confused about that fiery explosion though, I thought Doman did it at first... but why would Iwao do that to his comrades? Maybe it was something simple that I just missed, but I don't really understand that scene. Also wondering why it killed everyone in the building and looked like it wrecked the whole thing... yet the room where Harutora is didn't even seem be affected. 1 Miyachi ordered Maririn (op barriers) to create a strong barrier on the building. 2. Miyachi used his Acala Fire Realm Mantra to purify the miasma(or those ghost Doman) caused by D. 3. It didn't killed anything in the building, it only damaged the building a little ( and that too by D not Miyachi) 4. The room where Harutora is, was not affected by D's miasma because the miasma was destroying the building only by slowly going upwards. By the time the miasma could reach that room, Miyachi had already purified it. |
NuviMar 18, 2014 10:57 AM
Mar 19, 2014 8:01 AM
#82
Nuvi said: Oh, I see, I guess I must've perceived D's ghosts as people inside the building getting burnt up. I suppose that makes a lot more sense than that guy randomly burning up his allies.HalibelTheEspada said: I'm kind of confused about that fiery explosion though, I thought Doman did it at first... but why would Iwao do that to his comrades? Maybe it was something simple that I just missed, but I don't really understand that scene. Also wondering why it killed everyone in the building and looked like it wrecked the whole thing... yet the room where Harutora is didn't even seem be affected. 1 Miyachi ordered Maririn (op barriers) to create a strong barrier on the building. 2. Miyachi used his Acala Fire Realm Mantra to purify the miasma(or those ghost Doman) caused by D. 3. It didn't killed anything in the building, it only damaged the building a little ( and that too by D not Miyachi) 4. The room where Harutora is, was not affected by D's miasma because the miasma was destroying the building only by slowly going upwards. By the time the miasma could reach that room, Miyachi had already purified it. |
Mar 20, 2014 10:13 AM
#83
It was getting pretty good towards the end. |
Mar 20, 2014 11:31 AM
#84
Damn. Never loved Kon since this episode. Love her now. |
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Mar 20, 2014 9:19 PM
#85
Douman and Jin's team up is awesome! Kon also did a great job clearing Harutora's mind. Never expected Harutora might perform the ritual himself though. Episode 23 here I come! |
Mar 26, 2014 9:38 PM
#86
Apr 4, 2014 9:28 AM
#88
One of the best scenes was hoe Douman scared one of the Generals. That was priceless. If they filch when he appears, I wonder just how powerful Otomo really is? |
Apr 5, 2014 4:38 AM
#89
ClementIV said: One of the best scenes was hoe Douman scared one of the Generals. That was priceless. If they filch when he appears, I wonder just how powerful Otomo really is? Actually, Ohtomo was freaked out by D in episode 9. I think the only Divine General who fought him, but hasn't been disturbed at first is Miyachi. |
Apr 9, 2014 1:53 AM
#90
Good job kon, you words reached harutora. |
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