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| Interesting episode. So we have Yuuichi, who is popular in school, he wears gold skates and a baseball cap, but eventually everyone starts suspecting him of being lil slugger. He loses his popularity, he suspects the fat kid to be the main cause, he wishes for him to be hit by lil slugger, it actually happens. But then he doesn't want to go to school the next day, so he has some trippy paranoia-like dream about lil slugger. Wow I must say I'm really loving this anime so far! Definitely better than the 1st one. Onto the next episode! |
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| Poor kid, from a grand status to a zero, that sure must have fucked him up pretty bad! |
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| Damn that was an interesting episode. This is really intriguing! |
| I'm thinking about something that connect those two crimes (from ep 1 and 2), but I can't. Quite interesting episode! |
| Well I know that 1 meant Ichi. But what was up with the 510 in the formula? Did I miss something? |
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| Well daaaaaaamn. I felt bad for Yuuichi at first but then his snobbish personality made me want him to be blamed. I'm interested to see what happens next. Maybe he'll get arrested but the shounen bat might strike whilst he's in prison proving his innocence? Well onto the next episode.. |
Gwendolly said: Well I know that 1 meant Ichi. But what was up with the 510 in the formula? Did I miss something? I think it was the room number that Tsukiko was staying in while at hospital during the previous episode. |
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| Dang I can't imagine what happened in shounen bat's past that would cause him to do this. "I wish he would get hit by shounen bat!" *gets hit* reminds me of when my mom used to tell my brother and me to not wish that the other would die |
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| lol He's been accused ,everyone has a bad luck in this anime . |
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| I enjoyed every moment of this episode, geez I feel already insane after watching the opening-it's weird and shows us that for the first time we smile and show others how happy, nice we are....But if we look closer everyone has their demons which someday could come out and crush you completely. That old insane grandpa seems to me will take one of the important parts in this story |
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| I really hated that little brat, but no one deserves to be harassed like that. Honestly, the best thing for him at this point is to get attacked. |
| "It's a tragic misunderstanding that could have been easily avoided if he just finished his sentence in time!" — Richard Watterson (The Amazing World of Gumball) |
| More questions!! So excited to be honest to see how this is raveled up. |
| Yes I'm like what on earth is going on. The only thing I'm assuming right now is that they are probably haunted by their fears mayoiga style. |
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| That popular kid is a smarmy little brat |
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| sad_times Shounen bat symbolism is pretty kino |
| Lol what a brat, he got what he deserved. |
"At some point, I stopped hoping." |
| ok the kid is done now. No way he's going to be anything in his school ever again. At best the other kids will just ignore him. Not that I feel especially sorry for him losing everything. He was way too arrogant anyway but being hated by the entire school for something you didn't do isn't really something I'd wish onto anyone regardless. also I can't be the only one that thinks the woman from the first episode is going to commit suicide. The opening doesn't help with that thought :P |
| Shit. I thought being a murderer brings fear not bullying lol pretty intense episode though. I'd probably lose my mind if I was suspected |
| Not quite as good as the first episode, but damn that ending was creepy as hell. |
SakurasouBusters said: Not quite as good as the first episode, but damn that ending was creepy as hell. Yeah, Ichi is annoying. Worse than the solo detective that was struck by Shounen Bat in the first episode. |
| Another great epsiode heym8heym8 said: I felt bad for Ichi. Yeah he's annoying but he's realistically annoying - we've all known an overachieving, overconfident kid right? The golden boy? At his age I'd want him to get smacked a bit too because he's a walking insecurity trigger. But you have to remember he's just a kid lol, most of his behaviour is encouraged by the adults in his life. Does he really deserve the trauma of being ostracized? Bullied? Smashed upside the head with a metal bat? Those scenes where he starts getting mad at the other students are pretty real and very sad. By no fault of his own, this boy's life is turned upside down and he'll never be the same again. Pretty heartbreaking stuff. Well said my man |
bingstar85 said: Another great epsiode heym8heym8 said: I felt bad for Ichi. Yeah he's annoying but he's realistically annoying - we've all known an overachieving, overconfident kid right? The golden boy? At his age I'd want him to get smacked a bit too because he's a walking insecurity trigger. But you have to remember he's just a kid lol, most of his behaviour is encouraged by the adults in his life. Does he really deserve the trauma of being ostracized? Bullied? Smashed upside the head with a metal bat? Those scenes where he starts getting mad at the other students are pretty real and very sad. By no fault of his own, this boy's life is turned upside down and he'll never be the same again. Pretty heartbreaking stuff. Well said my man Ditto. I was blown away by how well "Satoshi Kon" developed Ichi's character. Ichi has his flaws as arrogant, self-absorbed and exploitive, but each step he take requires critical thinking and initiate to better serve himself and the position of student council president. Which is why I believe he is the best candidate for the position. Since no one else has been put under the same conditions, which allows him to grow and adapt in response to such treatment. The kid did well, I bet any of his other classmates would have cried in response to such ostracism instead of addressing the issue, and challenging himself and others to overcome the obstacle. I loved the music wherever he was daydreaming and fantasizing about his success. Which really made me want to cheer for him as well, but the "Welcome to NHK" atmosphere at the end made me feel sorry for him. I hope he turns out alright by the end of the season. |
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| Not even an elementary school kid can avoid becoming mentally unravelled in a Satoshi Kon piece. |
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| I won't say Yuichi deserved it, but ignorants usually prove that pride goes before a fall. He had a narcissistic personality anyway, that's why I can't fully blame him for his actions, as for I can't say he was initially bad or something. |
| New face. This time a popular, perfect primary schoolboy. Because of his cap and golden rollers they think he's a bandit. They begin to bully him. He wants to be number one in everything, he calculates coldly and he wants to suit everyone, although he does not feel empathy or sympathy for others. Someone took photos him and this another guy who's starting in a school election. Wow, pictures were sent to his entire class. He decides to throw away his rollers. Things getting worse. Nobody came to the birthday. The protagonist appears and hits Ichi's rival. This talking mascot. A figment of her imagination. This time result is 1 (ichi), just like this boy nick. And he also begins to have paranoia. The old man at the end says that the golden shoes will come when they are summoned. Did someone wish Tsukiko ill? |
| Ichi might be a complete douche and an arrogantly pompous jerk but I really don't think that he deserved getting bullied for sharing his appearance with Shonen Bat. Seeing his delusions of grandeur and paranoia were very amusing for me, though! It looks like the old guy's chalk drawings has a connection to what each episode was about. I'm looking forward to more of it along with everything about the whole show~ |
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| Damn, love the trippy delusional shit at the end |
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| I laughed hard when I saw that nobody showed up at his birthday party, except his mom and his tutor. That's what you get for being arrogant. |
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| I actually felt bad at first for that kid for being bullied even though he’s arrogant. But, after the other kid got assaulted and him being happy about it, I think he deserves what he’s getting. Still wondering how the Shonen Bat chose his victims. And though the one he attacked was the fat kid, the one suffering from it is that arrogant boy so he’s basically a “victim” as well |
not gonna lie, the last part of the episode makes me feel like im on crack. mr fuckboy on the other hand- |
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| Excellent episode, definitely stronger than the first. Ichi was such a greatly developed character, my thoughts on him shifted quite a lot throughout. It's pretty easy to hate Ichi with his increasingly overt hatred of Ushiyama despite the fact that he was the only kid who had his back. Ushi trying to connect with him at the end leading to Ichi hoping for Shonen Bat to attack him really made me lose a my sympathy for him, but it's a natural development from Ichi's situations. He definitely doesn't deserve the bullying, and that shot of the empty birthday party was painful, but his continual narrative that Ushi's the problem made it difficult to find sympathy for him. It's interesting to me that Ichi blames Ushi for the problems more than Shonen Bat, to the point where he's actually hoping for Shonen Bat to solve his problem. The actual culprit here is Ichi's solution for the imaginary problem. I guess it's easier to blame a close-by individual than the actual issue. I'm of course, not expecting Ichi to tackle Shonen Bat (though admittedly he actually tried to do that lol), in a lot of ways his situation pushes him in that direction. I don't want to get too into political because A. I'm not smart enough and B. that's asking for a flame war I won't be partaking in but I can't help but associate this with like, the constant complaints that immigrants are stealing jobs rather than complaining about the employers exploiting them for their labour. Again, not getting into any debate over this (just couldn't think of a non-political example of the social commentary I took from the episode) but it's one of those scenarios where it seems to me the hatred is directed in the wrong place, where it's lashed out at something more immediately tangible for lack of a better way to phrase it. And I laughed every time his teeth sparkled, and his eye that one time. The Tsukiko/Maromi scene was great too, I love the irony of Maromi's speech beginning with "That's just your imagination", and Maromi is just the cutest thing. Both in design and in their voice, Haruko Momoi is killing it. The end of the speech, the combination of her voice and Maromi's actions with the "right?" was the most adorable thing I've seen in ages outside of my own pets. The detectives whose name I haven't checked also have a really fun dynamic and their interview with Tsukiko was pretty funny. |
| I really loved this episode, it was very well written and it had me thinking about a lot of stuff throughout. Like the guy above said, I see a lot of people saying they hate Ichi and he deserved what he got, and I kind of thought that at the start but I don't think he deserved having his life fall apart. Frankly, kids are assholes, and the theme of this episode seems to be about that. Ichi had such a great life at school and it got ruined when the kids turned on him because of a rumor. He couldn't cope with his life falling apart like that, so he blamed the fat kid and was just terrible to him. Part of this is that he's just a kid, but he's also clearly delusional and was showing some mental problems when he couldn't cope. Either way you can't really blame him entirely for doing what he did even though he is an arrogant asshole. Also that shot of the fat kid in the hospital with his parents was really sad, the best people get put in the worst situations sometimes. Definitely interested to see how the shonen bat is going to turn up around people with delusions or mental problems in further episodes. |
| Really enjoying the new perspective here of Ichi. I wonder if each episode will be its own narrative/story with the central theme of Shonen Bat. Ichi kind of has a creepy personality, ngl...his teeth sparkle, his narcissistic attitude, his GOLDEN rollerblades, then his anger toward Ushi and the rude things he says about him. Also, the strange relationship he *thinks he has with his tutor. Creepy. The smile Ichi had when Ushi actually got hit? Messed up. Then Ichi's downfall into paranoia and panic was done via great pace and editing as he was reliving his 'popular days'. How does Kon make even this all-seeming perfect kid seem creepy? Make ordinary school kid banter get really messed up? Make you think Ichi will be the one to get hit because he 'deserves it' more than Ushi (who's just legit being nice)? Thus making lil slugger seem even MORE like a sociopath? Then at the end have it seem that Ichi was attacked (either physically or mentally) to mess with the viewer? Because Kon's a mastermind, that's how. |
| Really enjoying this! Poor Ichi. |
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| This is very interesting and mysterious but why the hell those kids talk like they're 40 yo or something lol. Idk may be the dub that is weird (sadly I can't find it in sub) |
| Well well kid is living in dream now....showing bullying and dark side of society....on to the next one. |
| To summarize this episode: Give Satoshi Kon a cliche concept about this narcissistic popular dude that everyone loves gets his reputation ruined supposedly because of a plump country bumpkin who's actually a kind dude and ask him to integrate this into the Shounen Bat story going on. What would you get? A great, very well made masterful execution. But in reality, the story of this episode is still pretty cliched. Well done tho. This episode is a good 8.5, would be a 9 if it wasn't cliched. Cause man that ending was intense. |
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