Hunter x Hunter (2011) Episode 130 Discussion

May 20, 2014 8:19 PM

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This was a great episode, as usual, but it had a few minor issues. The padding here was rather noticeable; Madhouse has been doing a good job with the pacing for the CA arc, but this episode in particular felt rather dragged out. I wouldn't be surprised if only one chapter was adapted with this episode. Also, the scenes involving Gon's grief at Kite's death, while well-executed, could have been a little better/stronger. Aside from that, though, I thoroughly enjoyed it.

Two things stuck out for me. The first is the little conversation that Killua had with Palm. It was brief and finished almost as quickly as it started, but it served its purpose: Killua has gained yet another friend. It being Palm is especially important because so much ill will existed between them back during the days that they were training with Knuckle. It's heartwarming to see the two of them move past their differences and be true, genuine friends. It also keeps with a theme prominent in this arc: Killua's newfound friendships. First Ikalgo, now Palm. For most of the series Killua's only friend was Gon. Now, finally, Killua has reached the stage where he can make friends easily, even in this sort of situation. It's subtle, but's it's a big deal for Killua, considering his life and background. It also provides a nice contrast with Gon, who contrary to Killua, has been isolating and cutting off himself from close bonds with other people, including his best friend.

Gon's breakdown was great. Madhouse's choice of coloring his memories blue when he was blaming himself and a fiery red when he was blaming Pitou was a wonderful stylistic decision. It also emphasized the duality of his emotions, which is important since the concept of duality has been such a big part of this arc. Here we see Gon struggle with himself, as he comes to terms with emotions and ideas far more complex than what he is accustomed to.

Gon oscillating between full-blown sorrow and blistery rage was reflected earlier, when he first confronts Pitou while she is healing Komugi. It is more pronounced here, as Gon blames both himself and Pitou. The fact that he blamed himself first is significant; it implies that he blames Pitou as a sort of defense mechanism, lashing out to spare himself the immense pain. We've seen him lash out verbally before, like at Killua, for example. But Gon's thoughts here are telling because they suggest that this whole time, Gon has been driven not just by rage at Pitou but by rage at himself. This arc had Gon grappling with feelings that were previously foreign to him, that threatened to shatter his optimistic world outlook. He broke down in tears after realizing how weak he was in ep 91; he despises the feeling. But there's more to it than that- he hates himself for being so weak, so helpless, to the point where he was effectively useless. In his mind, he killed Kite as much as Pitou did. But is he strong enough to face that thought head-on?

Apparently not, since he basically snapped this episode. It startled me just how quickly Gon's tough guy act dropped. His anger had been keeping him going for all this time; now, faced with Kite's actual death, it all collapses, as if it were nothing more than a brave facade. This is all yet another step in Gon's forceful maturity to adulthood, to the reality that optimism, hard work, confidence, and friendship won't always save the day. The CA arc has been unrelentingly brutal and bleak, as it had to be, to appropriately challenge Gon and to reflect his realization that the world isn't a nice place.

It's interesting, then, how fundamentally childish Gon's reaction to Kite's real death actually was. He cries helplessly, he blames himself and then others, and in the end he calls for help, even though it certainly isn't coming. That Gon would ask for help at all, when he has always prided himself on his ability to fend for himself, speaks as to how severe and life-changing this whole experience is for him. His switching back and forth between wallowing in grief and loathing and passionate anger in some ways reflects the King's duality between his Ant and human side. Ultimately, before the Rose, at least, the King chose his human side. Since the King and Gon have been paralleled throughout the arc as opposites, and based on the preview, I think it's clear what path Gon decides to take.

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May 20, 2014 8:20 PM

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Top action of this episode: Pitou got tired of Gon's 10 minute crying and started healing herself.

May 20, 2014 8:23 PM

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Interesting to see Gon switch between grieving guilt and grieving anger.

Gon's emotions seems to follow the Kubler-Ross Model: denial, anger, bargaining, depression, acceptance....

I'd say he's somewhere between anger and bargaining.

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May 20, 2014 8:27 PM

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MrAM said:
This was a great episode, as usual, but it had a few minor issues. The padding here was rather noticeable; Madhouse has been doing a good job with the pacing for the CA arc, but this episode in particular felt rather dragged out. I wouldn't be surprised if only one chapter was adapted with this episode. Also, the scenes involving Gon's grief at Kite's death, while well-executed, could have been a little better/stronger. Aside from that, though, I thoroughly enjoyed it.

Two things stuck out for me. The first is the little conversation that Killua had with Palm. It was brief and finished almost as quickly as it started, but it served its purpose: Killua has gained yet another friend. It being Palm is especially important because so much ill will existed between them back during the days that they were training with Knuckle. It's heartwarming to see the two of them move past their differences and be true, genuine friends. It also keeps with a theme prominent in this arc: Killua's newfound friendships. First Ikalgo, now Palm. For most of the series Killua's only friend was Gon. Now, finally, Killua has reached the stage where he can make friends easily, even in this sort of situation. It's subtle, but's it's a big deal for Killua, considering his life and background. It also provides a nice contrast with Gon, who contrary to Killua, has been isolating and cutting off himself from close bonds with other people, including his best friend.

Gon's breakdown was great. Madhouse's choice of coloring his memories blue when he was blaming himself and a fiery red when he was blaming Pitou was a wonderful stylistic decision. It also emphasized the duality of his emotions, which is important since the concept of duality has been such a big part of this arc. Here we see Gon struggle with himself, as he comes to terms with emotions and ideas far more complex than what he is accustomed to.

Gon oscillating between full-blown sorrow and blistery rage was reflected earlier, when he first confronts Pitou while she is healing Komugi. It is more pronounced here, as Gon blames both himself and Pitou. The fact that he blamed himself first is significant; it implies that he blames Pitou as a sort of defense mechanism, lashing out to spare himself the immense pain. We've seen him lash out verbally before, like at Killua, for example. But Gon's thoughts here are telling because they suggest that this whole time, Gon has been driven not just by rage at Pitou but by rage at himself. This arc had Gon grappling with feelings that were previously foreign to him, that threatened to shatter his optimistic world outlook. He broke down in tears after realizing how weak he was in ep 91; he despises the feeling. But there's more to it than that- he hates himself for being so weak, so helpless, to the point where he was effectively useless. In his mind, he killed Kite as much as Pitou did. But is he strong enough to face that thought head-on?

Apparently not, since he basically snapped this episode. It startled me just how quickly Gon's tough guy act dropped. His anger had been keeping him going for all this time; now, faced with Kite's actual death, it all collapses, as if it were nothing more than a brave facade. This is all yet another step in Gon's forceful maturity to adulthood, to the reality that optimism, hard work, confidence, and friendship won't always save the day. The CA arc has been unrelentingly brutal and bleak, as it had to be, to appropriately challenge Gon and to reflect his realization that the world isn't a nice place.

It's interesting, then, how fundamentally childish Gon's reaction to Kite's real death actually was. He cries helplessly, he blames himself and then others, and in the end he calls for help, even though it certainly isn't coming. That Gon would ask for help at all, when he has always prided himself on his ability to fend for himself, speaks as to how severe and life-changing this whole experience is for him. His switching back and forth between wallowing in grief and loathing and passionate anger in some ways reflects the King's duality between his Ant and human side. Ultimately, before the Rose, at least, the King chose his human side. Since the King and Gon have been paralleled throughout the arc as opposites, and based on the preview, I think it's clear what path Gon decides to take.

You summarized everything perfectly. Thank You.

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May 20, 2014 9:19 PM

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MrAM said:

This was a great episode, as usual, but it had a few minor issues. The padding here was rather noticeable; Madhouse has been doing a good job with the pacing for the CA arc, but this episode in particular felt rather dragged out. I wouldn't be surprised if only one chapter was adapted with this episode. Also, the scenes involving Gon's grief at Kite's death, while well-executed, could have been a little better/stronger. Aside from that, though, I thoroughly enjoyed it.

Two things stuck out for me. The first is the little conversation that Killua had with Palm. It was brief and finished almost as quickly as it started, but it served its purpose: Killua has gained yet another friend. It being Palm is especially important because so much ill will existed between them back during the days that they were training with Knuckle. It's heartwarming to see the two of them move past their differences and be true, genuine friends. It also keeps with a theme prominent in this arc: Killua's newfound friendships. First Ikalgo, now Palm. For most of the series Killua's only friend was Gon. Now, finally, Killua has reached the stage where he can make friends easily, even in this sort of situation. It's subtle, but's it's a big deal for Killua, considering his life and background. It also provides a nice contrast with Gon, who contrary to Killua, has been isolating and cutting off himself from close bonds with other people, including his best friend.

Gon's breakdown was great. Madhouse's choice of coloring his memories blue when he was blaming himself and a fiery red when he was blaming Pitou was a wonderful stylistic decision. It also emphasized the duality of his emotions, which is important since the concept of duality has been such a big part of this arc. Here we see Gon struggle with himself, as he comes to terms with emotions and ideas far more complex than what he is accustomed to.

Gon oscillating between full-blown sorrow and blistery rage was reflected earlier, when he first confronts Pitou while she is healing Komugi. It is more pronounced here, as Gon blames both himself and Pitou. The fact that he blamed himself first is significant; it implies that he blames Pitou as a sort of defense mechanism, lashing out to spare himself the immense pain. We've seen him lash out verbally before, like at Killua, for example. But Gon's thoughts here are telling because they suggest that this whole time, Gon has been driven not just by rage at Pitou but by rage at himself. This arc had Gon grappling with feelings that were previously foreign to him, that threatened to shatter his optimistic world outlook. He broke down in tears after realizing how weak he was in ep 91; he despises the feeling. But there's more to it than that- he hates himself for being so weak, so helpless, to the point where he was effectively useless. In his mind, he killed Kite as much as Pitou did. But is he strong enough to face that thought head-on?

Apparently not, since he basically snapped this episode. It startled me just how quickly Gon's tough guy act dropped. His anger had been keeping him going for all this time; now, faced with Kite's actual death, it all collapses, as if it were nothing more than a brave facade. This is all yet another step in Gon's forceful maturity to adulthood, to the reality that optimism, hard work, confidence, and friendship won't always save the day. The CA arc has been unrelentingly brutal and bleak, as it had to be, to appropriately challenge Gon and to reflect his realization that the world isn't a nice place.

It's interesting, then, how fundamentally childish Gon's reaction to Kite's real death actually was. He cries helplessly, he blames himself and then others, and in the end he calls for help, even though it certainly isn't coming. That Gon would ask for help at all, when he has always prided himself on his ability to fend for himself, speaks as to how severe and life-changing this whole experience is for him. His switching back and forth between wallowing in grief and loathing and passionate anger in some ways reflects the King's duality between his Ant and human side. Ultimately, before the Rose, at least, the King chose his human side. Since the King and Gon have been paralleled throughout the arc as opposites, and based on the preview, I think it's clear what path Gon decides to take.

Excellent work again MrAM, especially with your 2nd paragraph concerning Killua making new friends I really enjoyed the read, thank you.

May 20, 2014 9:48 PM

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MrAM said:

This was a great episode, as usual, but it had a few minor issues. The padding here was rather noticeable; Madhouse has been doing a good job with the pacing for the CA arc, but this episode in particular felt rather dragged out. I wouldn't be surprised if only one chapter was adapted with this episode. Also, the scenes involving Gon's grief at Kite's death, while well-executed, could have been a little better/stronger. Aside from that, though, I thoroughly enjoyed it.

Two things stuck out for me. The first is the little conversation that Killua had with Palm. It was brief and finished almost as quickly as it started, but it served its purpose: Killua has gained yet another friend. It being Palm is especially important because so much ill will existed between them back during the days that they were training with Knuckle. It's heartwarming to see the two of them move past their differences and be true, genuine friends. It also keeps with a theme prominent in this arc: Killua's newfound friendships. First Ikalgo, now Palm. For most of the series Killua's only friend was Gon. Now, finally, Killua has reached the stage where he can make friends easily, even in this sort of situation. It's subtle, but's it's a big deal for Killua, considering his life and background. It also provides a nice contrast with Gon, who contrary to Killua, has been isolating and cutting off himself from close bonds with other people, including his best friend.

Gon's breakdown was great. Madhouse's choice of coloring his memories blue when he was blaming himself and a fiery red when he was blaming Pitou was a wonderful stylistic decision. It also emphasized the duality of his emotions, which is important since the concept of duality has been such a big part of this arc. Here we see Gon struggle with himself, as he comes to terms with emotions and ideas far more complex than what he is accustomed to.

Gon oscillating between full-blown sorrow and blistery rage was reflected earlier, when he first confronts Pitou while she is healing Komugi. It is more pronounced here, as Gon blames both himself and Pitou. The fact that he blamed himself first is significant; it implies that he blames Pitou as a sort of defense mechanism, lashing out to spare himself the immense pain. We've seen him lash out verbally before, like at Killua, for example. But Gon's thoughts here are telling because they suggest that this whole time, Gon has been driven not just by rage at Pitou but by rage at himself. This arc had Gon grappling with feelings that were previously foreign to him, that threatened to shatter his optimistic world outlook. He broke down in tears after realizing how weak he was in ep 91; he despises the feeling. But there's more to it than that- he hates himself for being so weak, so helpless, to the point where he was effectively useless. In his mind, he killed Kite as much as Pitou did. But is he strong enough to face that thought head-on?

Apparently not, since he basically snapped this episode. It startled me just how quickly Gon's tough guy act dropped. His anger had been keeping him going for all this time; now, faced with Kite's actual death, it all collapses, as if it were nothing more than a brave facade. This is all yet another step in Gon's forceful maturity to adulthood, to the reality that optimism, hard work, confidence, and friendship won't always save the day. The CA arc has been unrelentingly brutal and bleak, as it had to be, to appropriately challenge Gon and to reflect his realization that the world isn't a nice place.

It's interesting, then, how fundamentally childish Gon's reaction to Kite's real death actually was. He cries helplessly, he blames himself and then others, and in the end he calls for help, even though it certainly isn't coming. That Gon would ask for help at all, when he has always prided himself on his ability to fend for himself, speaks as to how severe and life-changing this whole experience is for him. His switching back and forth between wallowing in grief and loathing and passionate anger in some ways reflects the King's duality between his Ant and human side. Ultimately, before the Rose, at least, the King chose his human side. Since the King and Gon have been paralleled throughout the arc as opposites, and based on the preview, I think it's clear what path Gon decides to take.

Beautiful post, as always. I really liked this one because it summarized Gon's whole experience in the CA arc to a tee. The conversation between Killua & Palm also stuck out to me for the same reason, very good for his character despite how short it was. But I really like your observation about how Gon acted exactly like a child. Good stuff.

May 20, 2014 10:13 PM

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Nice to see Killua acknowledging Palm as his friend.

Things are looking bad for Gon. Pitou is getting ready to kill him. Hoping for the fight to be next episode.

May 20, 2014 10:37 PM

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This was such a boring episode.... Tough guy Gon didn't last long. He was on his knees crying for at least 10 minutes in this episode or that's just what it felt like.

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May 20, 2014 10:54 PM

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So many feels for Gon.
Cannot wait for next weeks episode.

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May 20, 2014 11:51 PM

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Goodtimes420 said:
This boo hoo drama is getting OLD, is this not a fighting anime anymore? Maybe I'm just impatient, but its feeling worse than the never ending DBZ dialogue cliche when there should be more fighting.....

It never was. Hunter x Hunter since the beginning has never been about the fighting at the fore front. The people complaining about lack of content should probably realize that. And realize that fighting non-stop doesn't mean quality.

May 20, 2014 11:56 PM

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Meh. The arc is wrapping up at least, and apart from Gon vs. Pitou the fate of the King remains to be seen.

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May 21, 2014 12:14 AM

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Well, Gon gonna give Pitou a piece of him on next episode. So long for the kite is still alive hopes, the world sure is cruel.

May 21, 2014 12:20 AM

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Gon is such an insufferable brat. If only the little cock sucker would get the death that he deserves. But like the Greed Island incident, he is going to be healed like it's nothing.

May 21, 2014 12:56 AM

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UBERGON HATH ARRIVED TO SMITE THE KING!!!!!

May 21, 2014 1:49 AM

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Aresnalfan said:
Gon is such an insufferable brat. If only the little cock sucker would get the death that he deserves. But like the Greed Island incident, he is going to be healed like it's nothing.

Chill out...Gon is a 13 years old KID.Obviously he's immature in some ways.Personally i love how Togashi wrote this, even though Gon has his ''badass'' moments, inside he's just a kid who can't stand death of person dear to him.Would love to see you do better in his place to be honest.

jrcastro said:
am I the only one who likes Pitou? one of the best characters in this arc by far

I would go even further, and say he's one of best characters in the series.No idea why, but for me its amazingly amusing to watch scenes with him, be it serious ones or comedy.Im thinking of adding him or King to my favourites after this arc, will see who i like more in overall.

May 21, 2014 2:31 AM

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Valaskjalf said:
zzzZzzz "help kaito" half the episode. At least Pouf made this episode somewhat enjoyable.

Same thoughts here. Pacing is still so slow :((

Pouf was amazing though, goddamn I love him.

May 21, 2014 2:48 AM

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This probably the last slow paced episode, they have to animate 18 chapters in the next 5 episodes. Thats 3.6 chapters per episode.

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May 21, 2014 2:54 AM

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still tears dropping .. GOOOOON ;---------------------;

May 21, 2014 3:25 AM

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Wow, that scene with Gon was awfully dragged. I was sad at the start of the scene but by the end I was just waiting for it to finish.

Rest of the episode was alright.

doraemon1992 said:
I always thought that this scene, where Gon is feeling guilty/sad over Kite's confirmation of death, is actually one of the weakest sad scene in HxH. Sure, it is portrayed really well, not to mention madhouse adapt it pretty well too.
It's just that I feel there is really barely any or almost none chemistry between Gon and Kite throughout the whole series so far. You can say he's basically Gon's mentor, but they barely synch nor he gave anything substantial to Gon's growth. Okay, maybe Gon feels guilty for causing his death, but to the point of driving Gon into "that" state (next episode, hopefully)? It's way too exaggerated imho.

I kind of agree. Kite and Gon haven't even spent much time with each other, and they didn't really share any happy memories or anything (evidence of this is the fact that 90% of Gon's flashbacks of Kite was just him killing shit, nothing sentimental in the slightest). I haven't been able to understand why Gon felt so strongly towards Kite; maybe it was guilt or maybe it was because Kite inspired him to become a hunter. Who knows "shrugs". I'm probably misunderstanding something though, hopefully someone will point it out to me.

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May 21, 2014 5:05 AM

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Minagatachi said:
Wow, that scene with Gon was awfully dragged. I was sad at the start of the scene but by the end I was just waiting for it to finish.

Rest of the episode was alright.

doraemon1992 said:
I always thought that this scene, where Gon is feeling guilty/sad over Kite's confirmation of death, is actually one of the weakest sad scene in HxH. Sure, it is portrayed really well, not to mention madhouse adapt it pretty well too.
It's just that I feel there is really barely any or almost none chemistry between Gon and Kite throughout the whole series so far. You can say he's basically Gon's mentor, but they barely synch nor he gave anything substantial to Gon's growth. Okay, maybe Gon feels guilty for causing his death, but to the point of driving Gon into "that" state (next episode, hopefully)? It's way too exaggerated imho.

I kind of agree. Kite and Gon haven't even spent much time with each other, and they didn't really share any happy memories or anything (evidence of this is the fact that 90% of Gon's flashbacks of Kite was just him killing shit, nothing sentimental in the slightest). I haven't been able to understand why Gon felt so strongly towards Kite; maybe it was guilt or maybe it was because Kite inspired him to become a hunter. Who knows "shrugs". I'm probably misunderstanding something though, hopefully someone will point it out to me.

I agree with you guys too. Though, Kite was a good friend of Gin and Gin acknowledges Kite, which was very important for Gon I think. Kite was like one of the few connections with his father and his journey to meet him. Now that thing is taken away from him.

May 21, 2014 5:21 AM

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awsum episode
poor gon ;___;

May 21, 2014 6:13 AM

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i like this episode: 4/5
but one manga chapter for an episode of 20 minutes.... but i hope that the next episode will cover 3 manga chapters.

It was 2 chapter.

May 21, 2014 7:45 AM

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Amazing so much feels,Gon VA did a great job especially when Gon was lost in his thoughtse,thath scene was heartbreaking and was directed perfectly,''I kill Kite..NO! it was Pitou! no it's my fault'' daaaamn.

Also a big f** you Pouf always,ALWAYS he does stuff like that,I hope his death is painfull as it gets!

Final note the scene when they open the door to where Kite is didn't seemed like I was watching a shounen rather,a psycollogical thriller with a bit of dose of horror,with the ost fitting perfectly,now that I said ost this episode had little ost's but was right on the spot.

The preview was f** unbelievable,soooo hyped for the next episode!! Anger x and x Light! Goooooon!

May 21, 2014 7:54 AM

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Was Pitou lying??? Since "Komugi" was "saved" Couldn't heal Kaito because he's already dead.

May 21, 2014 8:34 AM

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Man that was a disappointment. Half of the episode dragging out 1 page while putting in some melodramatic music in there? Really? No I don't want fight already, that can wait, but this episode especially adapted one of the most striking moments in the whole arc, when Gon gives up on his "Kite is still alive" and is struck for a moment while being empty-minded just realizing the truth of the situation before going ape-shit, and what did they do, they insterted some melodramatic music to make things more "sad" and some dragged out flashbacks with repititive frames and animation. It's just.. that music.. fuck. What a way to ruin such a good moment.

May 21, 2014 8:55 AM

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AnimeFan500 said:
Was Pitou lying??? Since "Komugi" was "saved" Couldn't heal Kaito because he's already dead.

Nope Pitou didn't lie.

May 21, 2014 9:29 AM

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Gon is right, it's all his fault. He brought Killua with him to impress Ging while bragging about his friend and shit which is why they got transported to Kite. This is what happens when you're gutless.

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May 21, 2014 9:29 AM

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Ruben_Jb said:

Minagatachi said:
Wow, that scene with Gon was awfully dragged. I was sad at the start of the scene but by the end I was just waiting for it to finish.

Rest of the episode was alright.

doraemon1992 said:
I always thought that this scene, where Gon is feeling guilty/sad over Kite's confirmation of death, is actually one of the weakest sad scene in HxH. Sure, it is portrayed really well, not to mention madhouse adapt it pretty well too.
It's just that I feel there is really barely any or almost none chemistry between Gon and Kite throughout the whole series so far. You can say he's basically Gon's mentor, but they barely synch nor he gave anything substantial to Gon's growth. Okay, maybe Gon feels guilty for causing his death, but to the point of driving Gon into "that" state (next episode, hopefully)? It's way too exaggerated imho.

I kind of agree. Kite and Gon haven't even spent much time with each other, and they didn't really share any happy memories or anything (evidence of this is the fact that 90% of Gon's flashbacks of Kite was just him killing shit, nothing sentimental in the slightest). I haven't been able to understand why Gon felt so strongly towards Kite; maybe it was guilt or maybe it was because Kite inspired him to become a hunter. Who knows "shrugs". I'm probably misunderstanding something though, hopefully someone will point it out to me.

I agree with you guys too. Though, Kite was a good friend of Gin and Gin acknowledges Kite, which was very important for Gon I think. Kite was like one of the few connections with his father and his journey to meet him. Now that thing is taken away from him.

Kinda agree to this .
And after all the King returning I felt kinda sad no one is mentioning Netero (that whole time Palm watching Pouf )other than Knuckle.

Stupid 3rd World Country

May 21, 2014 10:01 AM

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Minagatachi said:
Wow, that scene with Gon was awfully dragged. I was sad at the start of the scene but by the end I was just waiting for it to finish.

Rest of the episode was alright.

doraemon1992 said:
I always thought that this scene, where Gon is feeling guilty/sad over Kite's confirmation of death, is actually one of the weakest sad scene in HxH. Sure, it is portrayed really well, not to mention madhouse adapt it pretty well too.
It's just that I feel there is really barely any or almost none chemistry between Gon and Kite throughout the whole series so far. You can say he's basically Gon's mentor, but they barely synch nor he gave anything substantial to Gon's growth. Okay, maybe Gon feels guilty for causing his death, but to the point of driving Gon into "that" state (next episode, hopefully)? It's way too exaggerated imho.

I kind of agree. Kite and Gon haven't even spent much time with each other, and they didn't really share any happy memories or anything (evidence of this is the fact that 90% of Gon's flashbacks of Kite was just him killing shit, nothing sentimental in the slightest). I haven't been able to understand why Gon felt so strongly towards Kite; maybe it was guilt or maybe it was because Kite inspired him to become a hunter. Who knows "shrugs". I'm probably misunderstanding something though, hopefully someone will point it out to me.

Is there a certain quantitative measure as to how long someone needs to care about a friend?
Or qualitative?
Does saving one's life three times, setting him on his journey and just being a genuine friend not count?
What about when you are blaming yourself for that friend's death?
What about when you are also blaming someone else but are robbed of the ability to let it out?
What about when the person you blame shows an act of kindness opposite to what was done to the friend, something he noticed gradually and developed hatred toward?
And what if you experienced that all as a kid?
I saw this whole show building up to this moment. Not solely the concept of kite's screen time.

May 21, 2014 10:10 AM

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Candor said:
Man that was a disappointment. Half of the episode dragging out 1 page while putting in some melodramatic music in there? Really? No I don't want fight already, that can wait, but this episode especially adapted one of the most striking moments in the whole arc, when Gon gives up on his "Kite is still alive" and is struck for a moment while being empty-minded just realizing the truth of the situation before going ape-shit, and what did they do, they insterted some melodramatic music to make things more "sad" and some dragged out flashbacks with repititive frames and animation. It's just.. that music.. fuck. What a way to ruin such a good moment.

Pretty much sums up my feelings on this episode. Unlike most, I'm not overly anxious to get to the fight, I enjoy the episodes like this one where emotions run high and you can feel the tension in the air. Unfortunately, this one fell flat. Not as much because of the melodramatic music for me, but because of the drawn out flashbacks. In the manga, when Gon lost his shit, you could feel the guilt, the hopelessness, the despair, etc. All of that was there. With no disrespect to Megumi Han, as she did a wonderful job here, I'm not trying to take anything away from her performance but all those emotions weren't as strong in large part because of the drawn out flashback scenes. This scene was never my favorite "sad" moment from HxH, but it was one of the more captivating moments, especially from this arc, and to see it fall flat was disappointing. If they just would've done some things a bit differently the scene could've been spectacular.

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May 21, 2014 10:16 AM

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Was Pitou lying??? Since "Komugi" was "saved" Couldn't heal Kaito because he's already dead.

Pitou didn't know what this "Kaitou" thing Gon was referring to really was. She was just kinda playing along to keep Komugi safe

May 21, 2014 10:22 AM

#112

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Think he/she was referring to saving komugi therefore being able go save kite. So was she lying when she said "i cant help him"?
That's how I interpreted the question haha

May 21, 2014 10:23 AM

#113

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Different and still good. Better than episode 125.

May 21, 2014 10:26 AM

#114

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Meh, 3/5 at most. But next one seems very promising with Gon and Killua fighting.

May 21, 2014 10:36 AM

#115

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There it is. On the preview. So cannot wait for Gon vs. Pitou!!!!

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May 21, 2014 11:09 AM

#116

Galdiblow

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I want Greed Island back. ;__;

And Pouf, fck you.
Sore dake no koto.

May 21, 2014 11:17 AM

#117

Taerand

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Could someone tell me at which chapter of manga I should reading if I want to know, what will happen after this ep?

May 21, 2014 11:27 AM

#118

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Taerand said:
Could someone tell me at which chapter of manga I should reading if I want to know, what will happen after this ep?

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May 21, 2014 11:35 AM

#119

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Wow, this was one of the best Hunter X Hunter episodes I've watched so far. The raw emotion of this episode was beautiful, the emotional struggle with Gon was absolutely phenomenal to watch. Pouf is such a strategic villain, in my opinion he is the biggest villain of this arc. Pitou was so evil when she began healing her hand, I felt so sorry for Gon when he thought that she'd heal Kite. Seeing the Kite flashbacks made me so sad, this was such a beautiful episode. I can't wait for Gon to explode on Pitou for what she did to Kite, he must avenge Kite. He shouldn't be blaming himself, it's Pitou's fault for Kite dying because she was the one who killed him. Gon better realize that and destroy Pitou! Next episode will be the craziest one yet, I hope The King will catch Pouf in his lies. I can't wait how the rest of the arc will play out. 5/5 for this episode.

May 21, 2014 11:41 AM

#120

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wow... this episode was SO fucking annoying

repeat the same shit over and over again some more, please... wtf

gizmokid2122 said:
Wow, this was one of the best Hunter X Hunter episodes I've watched so far. The raw emotion of this episode was beautiful, the emotional struggle with Gon was absolutely phenomenal to watch. Pouf is such a strategic villain, in my opinion he is the biggest villain of this arc. Pitou was so evil when she began healing her hand, I felt so sorry for Gon when he thought that she'd heal Kite. Seeing the Kite flashbacks made me so sad, this was such a beautiful episode. I can't wait for Gon to explode on Pitou for what she did to Kite, he must avenge Kite. He shouldn't be blaming himself, it's Pitou's fault for Kite dying because she was the one who killed him. Gon better realize that and destroy Pitou! Next episode will be the craziest one yet, I hope The King will catch Pouf in his lies. I can't wait how the rest of the arc will play out. 5/5 for this episode.

this is a joke, right?

May 21, 2014 12:01 PM

#121

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Romeo said:
wow... this episode was SO fucking annoying

repeat the same shit over and over again some more, please... wtf

gizmokid2122 said:
Wow, this was one of the best Hunter X Hunter episodes I've watched so far. The raw emotion of this episode was beautiful, the emotional struggle with Gon was absolutely phenomenal to watch. Pouf is such a strategic villain, in my opinion he is the biggest villain of this arc. Pitou was so evil when she began healing her hand, I felt so sorry for Gon when he thought that she'd heal Kite. Seeing the Kite flashbacks made me so sad, this was such a beautiful episode. I can't wait for Gon to explode on Pitou for what she did to Kite, he must avenge Kite. He shouldn't be blaming himself, it's Pitou's fault for Kite dying because she was the one who killed him. Gon better realize that and destroy Pitou! Next episode will be the craziest one yet, I hope The King will catch Pouf in his lies. I can't wait how the rest of the arc will play out. 5/5 for this episode.

this is a joke, right?

While it is true that they slowed down few last minutes, it is stupid to say it was bad. If you didn't like it, don't force your opinion on the ones who did. I for example liked it, so it is not a joke.

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May 21, 2014 12:08 PM

#122

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This episode

May 21, 2014 12:21 PM

#123

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This episode

was the best display

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May 21, 2014 12:25 PM

#124

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Seriously, how much of the episode was dedicated to Gon moaning 'n crying? It was just plain ANNOYING!

May 21, 2014 12:30 PM

#125

Shaduge

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how disappointing, let's keep dragging it further till next year

May 21, 2014 12:37 PM

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Lol people gotta realize that if they actually adapted chapters like they usually do then we'd only see half of the events that are to happen next week. I was actually wondering how they were going to handle this and I think they made the right choice. Instead of showing us something and letting it hang for a week, they made a very good build-up episode for what's about to happen.

May 21, 2014 12:42 PM

#127

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People need to stop complaining so much, geez..

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May 21, 2014 1:05 PM

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jreginald said:
Lol people gotta realize that if they actually adapted chapters like they usually do then we'd only see half of the events that are to happen next week. I was actually wondering how they were going to handle this and I think they made the right choice. Instead of showing us something and letting it hang for a week, they made a very good build-up episode for what's about to happen.

This. With how angry Gon was prior to this, it only makes sense that his entire world being shattered would induce such an emotional response. It'll make the fight (assuming there is to be one) all the more worthwhile. I really don't get the folks that said this was one of the more boring episodes. I'd say it's right up there with the gungi games between Meruem and Komugi.

May 21, 2014 1:08 PM

#129

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........ I can't wait next episode :|
Gon shedding tears was heart breaking after the shock of Kite being dead .... D""""""":
5/5

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May 21, 2014 3:24 PM

#130

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Though the episode felt a bit dragged, the fact remains that this was the BEST decision the studio could make. Those who've read the manga know that, if they didn't extend Gon's pain and his flashbacks of Kite, the following events would be rushed and we probably wouldn't even see them all.

Open this if you've read the manga (even though this says nothing specific)

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