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Feb 17, 2012 11:25 AM

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Cloudenvy said:
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A lot of people who are hating this due to the drama are forgetting that these are first-year middle-schoolers.


That does not make it any less awful to watch.


Then don't watch.
Feb 17, 2012 11:26 AM

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Dallykun said:
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A lot of people who are hating this due to the drama are forgetting that these are first-year middle-schoolers.


That does not make it any less awful to watch.


Then don't watch.


Well, thankfully BRS is made up of two different parts.

The pretty BRS world parts and the horrible slice of life parts.

I'm sticking around for the BRS parts.

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A lot of people who are hating this due to the drama are forgetting that these are first-year middle-schoolers.


That does not make it any less awful to watch.


Watchability and Realism are two things. It depends which matters more to you.

If people gave up on the realism for watchability, you'd have a 'Guilty Crown' on your hands. If you want realism over watchability, you have a 'BRS'. Either way, you get haters for both.


Watchability any god damn day of the week.
Feb 17, 2012 11:31 AM

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Mamiko Noto is so good when she goes all evil crazy. Saya was really creepy.
I think i liked this episode best until now. Maybe because i don't care about seeing fights in the BRS world. As fight per se they are kind of meaningless anyway since BRS since to not lose no matter what you do to her.

Cloudenvy said:
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A lot of people who are hating this due to the drama are forgetting that these are first-year middle-schoolers.


That does not make it any less awful to watch.


I don't get it what exactly in this episode was awful about the drama?
Feb 17, 2012 11:33 AM

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Monad said:

Cloudenvy said:
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A lot of people who are hating this due to the drama are forgetting that these are first-year middle-schoolers.


That does not make it any less awful to watch.


I don't get it what exactly in this episode was awful about the drama?


Nothing especially horrid about this one compared to the two previous episodes, I was just talking in general.
Feb 17, 2012 11:37 AM

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As for BGS, it's possible that Saya is her, but from what I've seen so far, the "other world" versions of the girls always have the same hairstyle, with the hair only being a bit bigger/more stylish. Saya's hair does not look like BGS's one, not at all...


Just because her hair is shorter makes you think that Saya isn't BGS? BRS's hair is longer than Mato's hair, and Yuu as STR has white hair.

And what about all the evidence proving that it is her?

1. We see the red eyes of BGS "watching" over the fight, the same way an adult figure "watches" over children as a school counselor.

2. Saya was informative about how some other girl takes the pain for you.

3. BGS is growing other selves, offering her hand to one of them, showing that she care for these new entities...except for her growing other people, Saya is a school counselor, and is supposed to help and care for the kids.

4. Mato said that one girl keeps popping every so often, and that she was older (obasan) than the rest of the other girls she sees.

5. Saya looks creepy after Yomi runs off.

6. Saya mimics Yomi, and shows off another creepy smile. She then looks at the class roaster, and there are red circle marks by Mato's and Yomi's picture.

7. Kohata looses conciseness after Saya gave her tea, and bombarded her with "It hurts!" "They are laughing at you!" "You're the joke of the school!" "Your heart is hurting!"

8. Saya kept Yomi's coffee black, even though Yomi said she wanted two scoops of sugar. (This was really strange...)

9. Saya gasps and breaks down in tears after BRS decapitated Kohata's other selves' head. The same one that BGS was reaching out to.

10. Out of the entire main cast that doesn't have a "confirmed" (I use this word loosely) Other Self, she is the only one to resemble BGS. Like I said in the Episode 2 discussion, imagine Saya with long black hair, and you have BGS.
Feb 17, 2012 11:52 AM

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It was clear that the real world influenced the other world, but now I'm more curious on how the other world influences the real world, like when BRS cut other Kohata's head off. Also, why did BRS do that?
Feb 17, 2012 12:21 PM

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Now that Kagari is "dealt with" Yomi is going back to the jealous state like she was in the OVA. I can't believe she's starting to act as possesive as Kagari every time Mato mentions Yuu. Maybe Mato is going on a bit to long about her though, so I kind of understand, but still. It's like she wants to be "best friends" or nothing at all.

Damn, those guys are assholes, making fun of Arata's confession by publicly displaying it on the message board. And that Taku guy is a bitch for letting it happen and playing with her feelings.

That counceiling teacher is up to something. She also has the same kind of eyes as them. She must be Black★Gold Saw in the "other world". What the hell did she do to Arata? Those "dolls" in the other world took Arata's form too!

Feb 17, 2012 1:01 PM

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...Man, that was REALLY creepy, especially seeing Kohata being decapitated in the other world, and then dropping dead in the real world...
"Aiming for the mark takes precision, balance, and patience."

....Screw that, let's shoot the damn thing!
Feb 17, 2012 1:33 PM

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WHOA. JUST... WHOA.

IN ONLY THREE EPISODES, THIS ANIME HAS MANAGED TO START HAUNTING MY DREAMS. This has exceeded all of my expecitations! 8'D

Is... is creepy Black Gold Saw Counselor stalking Mato and Yomi? I think BGS has a direct link to the other world- which might, contrary to what I first thought, actually exist!

IT TOTALLY EXISTS- if not, why else would the counselor know the exact moment when Kohata falls over?

Also... BLACK ROCK SHOOTER, I AM MUCHO DISAPPOINTED IN YOU! What the heck do you think you're doing, cutting off the little person's head? What's WRONG with you, woman?! >8U

Anyway, I can't WAIT for the next episode! SQUEEEE
Feb 17, 2012 3:01 PM

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warching just to spend time
Feb 17, 2012 3:28 PM

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Didn't expect Saya to be that creepy, I wonder why she's stalking those two. I'm guessing she can sense the happenings in the otherworld judging by the last scene.

Not many BRS scenes this time but the episode still flew by in an instant. Another decapitation? Well alright...
Feb 17, 2012 3:43 PM

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I liked it, but yet at the same time, also thought it was kind of lame. If Matou is so happy being with Yu, then why doesn't she just hang out with Yu whenever Yomi isn't around? And just when the whole drama with Kagari has finally ended, Matou decides to become close to Yu, leaving Yomi behind. *shakes head*

That Noto-chan's character... oh yeah, creepy indeed. I expected nothing less from the woman who perfected Enma Ai's voice.

Thanks, person who gave me this on another site a long time ago, lol.
Feb 17, 2012 3:45 PM

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How has it NOT been obvious that Saya is Black Gold Saw? It was obvious from the first episode when they made it clear who the main characters in the real world are... At least the writers chose to make the connection obvious from now on instead of keeping it close their chests and prolonging a revelation the audience would've already figured out.

The people growing out of the ground in the very beginning looked like dick tentacles. lol

BGS seems like she's trying to nurture minions or something. Probably why Saya in the real world is creating despair in kids. But somehow I don't think Saya was faking tears. Yes, it seemed like she was pulling some sort of hypnosis on Kohata, but I think she was legitimately crying. I don't know how to explain it other than Saya is particularly sensitive to negativity.

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Now that Kagari is "dealt with" Yomi is going back to the jealous state like she was in the OVA. I can't believe she's starting to act as possesive as Kagari every time Mato mentions Yuu.


It isn't uncommon for those who grew up in an environment of abuse to mimic some aspects of the abuser. She was abused by Kagari, so those seeds of possessiveness were already planted. That and she doesn't know what it means to have more than one friend at a time since Kagari kept her away from others, so trying to befriend Yuu and become a trio isn't logically feasible to her (even though it would be conventional).
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Feb 17, 2012 5:03 PM

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Shih said:
I think the counselor Irino Saya is Black★Gold Saw. o_o
Yomi you jelly? I don't understand why Yomi would be jealous...


I guess Yomi is jelly because, as we had saw in the pervious episodes, she was with her (crazy) friend Kagari for a while so being around Mato is very special and somewhat new. Since Mato was the one wanting to do things together it will be natural that Yomi wants her as a best friend.

Hm, I don't think that Koha is dead, maybe she'll be able to become stronger or something (hoping she didn't die, her character is cute ;_;)

And I have to agree with everyone else, Saya is BGS, but I kind of don't want it to be true. So much for guessing and making wild assumptions.

Oh well, looking forward for the next episode. Kagura is coming back so it'll be inetersting ^^
Feb 17, 2012 5:14 PM

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Sooo... what's the deal with BRS just slagging all them poor little... things? I'm assuming BGS is Saya but the correlation between her and BRS doesn't make much sense. BGS jearous that BRS is stealing away all her little kiddies?
Feb 17, 2012 5:18 PM

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Really interesting episode....yet creepy at the same time.

Pretty sure Saya is BGS
I felt realy bad for Yomo and Kohata....
and it seems there IS a connection between the real world and the other world! Been waiting for a little explanation...
Feb 17, 2012 5:37 PM
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Hello, first time posting here (actually I registered just to post in these threads).

I approached BRS hoping that I will experience another mindf%#@ like Puella Magi Madoka Magica is and this episode left me hyped for more. Totally loved it!
Feb 17, 2012 5:39 PM

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madvil said:
Hello, first time posting here (actually I registered just to post in these threads).

I approached BRS hoping that I will experience another mindf%#@ like Puella Magi Madoka Magica is and this episode left me hyped for more. Totally loved it!


Hi, welcome to MAL!

Also, I'd be really surprised if this turned out as well as Madoka Magica...I'm not expecting too much from it.
Feb 17, 2012 6:34 PM

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Alright, after watching this episode, I think I can come up with an explanation as to who those hooded girls are, why BGS is "growing" them and why BRS invaded and killed them all.

So, we're safe to assume that BGS is growing these girls, just like Saya is making middle schoolers' inner despair grow to insane levels. These girls all have the potential to be like Dead Master and Chariot. I'm not sure why BGS is doing this, perhaps to help her send more enemies after BRS, who is special for some reason. Kohata's other self is showing promise, so BGS reaches out to her. All of a sudden, BRS comes in and invades with a desire to kill. BRS is doing this to prevent BGS from mentoring these beings, which in turn prevents Saya from making them feel worse. BRS reaches out to Kohata because she wants her to believe that she can be saved, but she must behead her in that world to do that. (Let's face it, Kohata's situation could have gotten a lot worse, but thanks to BRS, Saya has one less girl to attack.) Therefore, Saya now has to look for others, and that other person is Yomi.

I'm not exactly sure if that makes sense, but that's what I'm getting from it.
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Feb 17, 2012 6:42 PM

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Cloudenvy said:
Monad said:

Cloudenvy said:
BRSxIgnition said:
A lot of people who are hating this due to the drama are forgetting that these are first-year middle-schoolers.


That does not make it any less awful to watch.


I don't get it what exactly in this episode was awful about the drama?


Nothing especially horrid about this one compared to the two previous episodes, I was just talking in general.


I really don't think that this series is bad. I love how they handle the emotions of the characters - I can easily relate to them even though I am a senior high school student unlike the characters who are in junior high school. The animation is very good; the 3D part is done really well and the music is awesome.
I know everyone has their own tastes of anime and I cant change your views and I don't have any right to do so; but I was a little offended because BRS is one of my favourite series.
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I felt really bad for Kohata....the students are really inconsiderate and Saya was so aweful for hurting her psychologically.
The lyrics of the ending song is making more sense. Supercell FTW!
I can't wait to see how this story develops! :D
5/5 9/10
Feb 17, 2012 6:46 PM

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loved the episode.

Yes i'm also wondering if saya is bgs...i thought it would be some type of new transfer student or something.
Anyways they changed up the story kind of didn't they?
from that of the ova.
don't click if you haven't watched the ova.


Anyways WHY ONLY 8 EPISODES???
darn it, such a good anime needs at least 50 ;) jk, or something like that.

Well looking forward to next ep, of course!
Feb 17, 2012 7:40 PM

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Even thought you got a Childhood friend it doesn't mean that friend is the closest one.
Mato still want to be friend with Yomi after all.

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Yomi you jelly? I don't understand why Yomi would be jealous...


my guess would be that Yomi was always used to being #1 in someone's life because of Kagari. Now Yomi wants to be the #1 person in Mato's life. But Mato makes it seem that Yuu is more important to her...? or something like that. >.>

Nothing ventured, nothing gained (Girls und Panzer der Film ) / from Nishizumi Miho

Feb 17, 2012 7:42 PM

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Alright, after watching this episode, I think I can come up with an explanation as to who those hooded girls are, why BGS is "growing" them and why BRS invaded and killed them all.

So, we're safe to assume that BGS is growing these girls, just like Saya is making middle schoolers' inner despair grow to insane levels. These girls all have the potential to be like Dead Master and Chariot. I'm not sure why BGS is doing this, perhaps to help her send more enemies after BRS, who is special for some reason. Kohata's other self is showing promise, so BGS reaches out to her. All of a sudden, BRS comes in and invades with a desire to kill. BRS is doing this to prevent BGS from mentoring these beings, which in turn prevents Saya from making them feel worse. BRS reaches out to Kohata because she wants her to believe that she can be saved, but she must behead her in that world to do that. (Let's face it, Kohata's situation could have gotten a lot worse, but thanks to BRS, Saya has one less girl to attack.) Therefore, Saya now has to look for others, and that other person is Yomi.

I'm not exactly sure if that makes sense, but that's what I'm getting from it.


I agree with your speculation I think it's very likely to be true :)
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Feb 17, 2012 8:11 PM

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Noooo I hope Koha is ok. D:
Feb 17, 2012 8:33 PM
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So, who's Saya in the other world, and WHY THE F*** did BRS kill that puppet? I was like O_O;;;;;;
Feb 17, 2012 8:50 PM

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Wow, that dream world seems like to be interacting with the real world... And Saya is proving to be quite evil. Now things are getting heated up.

(wiill we have Mamiko Noto vs Kana Hanazawa? That would be so great~)
Feb 17, 2012 9:57 PM

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I liked this episode better than the first two. I think the lack of freaky wheelchair girl helped.
Feb 17, 2012 10:11 PM

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Shih said:

Yomi you jelly? I don't understand why Yomi would be jealous...


Well, one does not simply 'save' someone and then leave them to their devices.

It's quite reasonable really. The jealousy you get when you have this 'best' friend who drags you out of your shell and then goes on to be merry with many other people while you spend all your time on that one 'best' friend who doesn't think the same.
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Shih said:

Yomi you jelly? I don't understand why Yomi would be jealous...


Well, one does not simply 'save' someone and then leave them to their devices.

It's quite reasonable really. The jealousy you get when you have this 'best' friend who drags you out of your shell and then goes on to be merry with many other people while you spend all your time on that one 'best' friend who doesn't think the same.


Agreed, couple that with the fact that they're all at a young age, an she's bound to get hurt. Hell, if I was still 12, I'd be hurt to see that such a close friend to me, didn't think the same about me in return. I'd just get more hurt every time she went on about her real best friend.

It would really bother me.
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Feb 18, 2012 1:13 AM

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The Fudge did I just watch?

Saya is messed up btw.

I get all those little metaphors and relationships and reasons and whatnot but everything feels so... overdone...

TEARS EVERYWHERE!!
... Just too fucking much...
Feb 18, 2012 2:40 AM
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God I love this anime, they don't waste any time at all doing retarded or useless episodes. The mood-change in this episode was so abrupt and intense, the otherworld scenes hit me really hard.

Shit the entire episode is metaphorical madness. Now I'm not sure who represents who, or even, who represents what. What if BRS doesn't necessarily represent Mato, but rather a certain emotion or drive that anyone could have? What if anyone in the real world could represent anyone in the otherworld? Considering that BGS's children represent the students who come to Saya for help, BRS killing BGS's children is completely unexplainable if you simply consider BRS as Mato's inner-self. Mato didn't hurt anyone in this episode, except maybe Yomi(and that relationship didn't even show up in the otherworld).
Feb 18, 2012 4:56 AM

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it was pretty confusing at some points...but not bad, expecting episode 4 with some explanations
Feb 18, 2012 5:01 AM

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Why is this show so freaking overrated?! Jeez.


Asks one who rated all Dragon Ball, Naruto and One Piece stuff at least 8/10 up to the perfect 10/10 and even Pokemon at 8...


Damn mindfucking episode, I have to say. More questions coming up than have been answered this time. Just sad that Yomi & Mato didn't get to spend more happy time before Yuu emerged...
Feb 18, 2012 5:06 AM

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So, who's Saya in the other world, and WHY THE F*** did BRS kill that puppet? I was like O_O;;;;;;


Have you been reading the posts in here? XD Saya is Black Gold Saw.

http://myanimelist.net/character/53163/Saya_Irino
Feb 18, 2012 6:37 AM

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Cloudenvy said:
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Cloudenvy said:
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A lot of people who are hating this due to the drama are forgetting that these are first-year middle-schoolers.


That does not make it any less awful to watch.


I don't get it what exactly in this episode was awful about the drama?


Nothing especially horrid about this one compared to the two previous episodes, I was just talking in general.

I know everyone has their own tastes of anime and I cant change your views and I don't have any right to do so; but I was a little offended because BRS is one of my favourite series.

Don't get offended, if you love it then it really shouldn't matter whether I think it's trash or not.

EDIT: I want to love it though, I really do.
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okay it's getting more insteresting...

so the conselour, Saya-chan, somehow become a bad person.

mean while in the other world BRS killed Kohachi-senpai instead of saving her? wtf is that

the true identity of the red saw-blade fighter is unknown yet. is it possible that she is Saya-chan?

i thought in this episode Yomi will start fighting with Yuu because she is jealous LOL
Feb 18, 2012 8:10 AM

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i genuinely thought that Saya was one of the good characters, but i guess not

and i know they look nothing alike, but am i the only one that thinks that Saya's alternate-world counterpart is Black★Gold Saw?

to me, it's obvious, in a way. when Black★Gold Saw grew those minions if you will, she offered an outstretched hand, but obviously her intentions weren't good. kind of like how Saya gives "advice" to troubled students and ends up hurting them even more. (i.e: Koha in this episode)

i can't wait until the next episode!

(also: i missed Kagari in this episode, she's so cute!)
Feb 18, 2012 8:12 AM

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Emotions feel so forced. The other world is interesting, but meh.

2/5
Feb 18, 2012 8:30 AM

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Oh look, they made it seem like this wasn't going the exact direction we all knew it was from the beginning and dicked around for two whole episodes before finally getting somewhere.
Feb 18, 2012 11:34 AM

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Emotions feel so forced. The other world is interesting, but meh.

2/5


I have no other way to agree...good sir!!
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Feb 18, 2012 12:01 PM

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Well, i'm starting to think that Mato's best friend is Strength, since in the OP DM is shown pointing her weapon to her, which could be explained by Yomi feelings of jealously towards her.
Feb 18, 2012 12:22 PM

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the more i watch of BRS, the more i want to play the orignal game. Wish it was on the english market. ;.;


NISA is releasing it in America.

Another good episode, Saya/BGS is crazy!

I thought the BRS world was just a metaphor, but it's looking more and more like the worlds are connected.

Urahara Out!!
Feb 18, 2012 3:21 PM

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That counselor is so sketchy... >.>
Feb 18, 2012 4:27 PM

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Scary counselor lady !! >.<
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I really like this episode. It took it beyond what the original OVA did and actually started to give me depth to the series. I think it will be pretty interesting if they explain the other world. Since it is hinting more and more each episode that there is more to that than meets the eye.
Feb 18, 2012 6:22 PM

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oh well this anime is complicated, but, you know, real life is as well; just saying
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Oh, God, now the counselor has problems, too?!?

Between the manipulative, mentally-abusive Kagari, some of the imagery in the Other World, and Saya, this is shaping up to be one of the most disturbing anime I've ever seen. That might sound wimpy to some of you, but I'm starting to find this show legitimately unnerving. And yet I'm going to continue watching it anyway because the story is getting very interesting. The connections between the real world and BRS' world are becoming stronger with each confrontation. I hope this culminates into something big, otherwise I'll be underwhelmed by the series as a whole.
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And the award for crazy-counselor-who-should-never-come-into-contact-with-anyone-ever-again-especially-children goes to *drumrolll* SAYA-SAN!!!!

Oh yeah, the kids who teased Kotoha are awful too, seriously...who does that. It's like your life is so boring, you're just waiting for someone to do something you can make fun of smh.
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Oh, God, now the counselor has problems, too?!?

Between the manipulative, mentally-abusive Kagari, some of the imagery in the Other World, and Saya, this is shaping up to be one of the most disturbing anime I've ever seen. That might sound wimpy to some of you, but I'm starting to find this show legitimately unnerving. And yet I'm going to continue watching it anyway because the story is getting very interesting. The connections between the real world and BRS' world are becoming stronger with each confrontation. I hope this culminates into something big, otherwise I'll be underwhelmed by the series as a whole.


"Another" and "Mirai Nikki" are plenty disturbing too if ur interested.
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Koha ad a really lovely attitude - good on her; not letting a spineless individual and his horrid friends humilliate her.
I hope nothing changes for her.

The girl with the glasses (who's name has left my head) is getting more and more dodgy, I'm looking forward to learning more about her.

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