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Jan 17, 2013 3:33 PM

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Hakuromatsu said:
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Another thing that bugged me is that no one eveb acknowledged the cyborg guy dying, he's the head of a large robotics engineering company. What's up with that?


Why is that important to the story, though?


I thought he was supposed to be a major antagonist or something. There was something interesting/cool about his character. The fact that he seeks something with greater meaning, something that makes him feel more of a fundamental human. With a society built like that, its hard to feel that way about yourself, and also experience the thrill of the hunt.

I thought someone had an artificial copy of his mind in a program stored somewhere and they were going to rebuild him

Or maybe a plot twist occurs, where he has mulitple android copies of himself, and the one that Kogami destroyed was just one of many copies of himself.
Jan 17, 2013 3:44 PM

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nice twist with ginoza and masaoka, father and son
i never really had that idea cross my mind, even with all the subtle hinting from previous episodes (although i was probably paying more attention to the main plot and action xD)

what's up with the old lady at the end? kinda creepy...
something tells me she's probably related to makishima, "shougo-kun", similar hair color
this show gets more interesting every week

i still hope they finish yayoi's backstory from last week. that plotline was pretty good

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Jan 17, 2013 3:48 PM

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So the old man was Gin's father. That was a pretty interesting development. It screams out: father giving up his life to protect/save his son in the final battle to me.

I suspect Shogo to be part of some experimental and/or development team for the Sibyl system and has some secret the higher ups don't want coming to light.

Also Akane might have the same 'condition' as Shogo, in that her PP can never get clouded. Will that mean she will have to be made to disappear?

Either way, with Gen at the helm of this anime, I'm not expecting a satisfactory ending that I will like and rate high, but as it stands right now, this anime has gotten really good and I'm really enjoying it. The wait is on for episode 14 now.

Episode Naxcore: 5 out of 5
Jan 17, 2013 3:49 PM

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Fallenkingzero said:
The whole thing about the last guy whose crime coefficient didn't increase was interesting. I wonder if they will get some old school weapons that would be pretty cool.


The OP has Kougomi firing a traditional pistol so yes it looks like it.
Jan 17, 2013 3:57 PM

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Danielcook said:
I thought he was supposed to be a major antagonist or something. There was something interesting/cool about his character. The fact that he seeks something with greater meaning, something that makes him feel more of a fundamental human. With a society built like that, its hard to feel that way about yourself, and also experience the thrill of the hunt.

I thought someone had an artificial copy of his mind in a program stored somewhere and they were going to rebuild him

Or maybe a plot twist occurs, where he has mulitple android copies of himself, and the one that Kogami destroyed was just one of many copies of himself.


He felt like a Disc One Final Boss to me. The end of the first cour was the natural point to end his story and refocus on Makishima.
Jan 17, 2013 4:03 PM
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Good episode.
Wow i thought she will be depressed or something. I was wrong. That was unexpected.
The end was pretty cool.
4/5
Jan 17, 2013 4:03 PM
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Hydnlife said:
an ok episode, was like a filler episode imo


Lol dumbass
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GoldenBRS said:
Hydnlife said:
an ok episode, was like a filler episode imo


Lol dumbass


Hey, dont be mean.
Jan 17, 2013 4:05 PM

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felt the episode went by fast and nothing really happened....pretty much just boring
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This show is so good at giving you just the right amount of information to keep you chasing after it!
Jan 17, 2013 4:14 PM

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So the old man was Gin's father. That was a pretty interesting development. It screams out: father giving up his life to protect/save his son in the final battle to me.

I suspect Shogo to be part of some experimental and/or development team for the Sibyl system and has some secret the higher ups don't want coming to light.

Also Akane might have the same 'condition' as Shogo, in that her PP can never get clouded. Will that mean she will have to be made to disappear?

Either way, with Gen at the helm of this anime, I'm not expecting a satisfactory ending that I will like and rate high, but as it stands right now, this anime has gotten really good and I'm really enjoying it. The wait is on for episode 14 now.

Episode Naxcore: 5 out of 5


You know how they were talking about how the sibyl computer was still developing, as it only brings the greatest amount of happiness to the greatest amount of people? Well, i was thinking that maybe Makashima is actually one of those people associated with sibyl, and is testing the system to see if it is actually efficient in the job that it is supposed to do, bring happiness/well-being to the majority of the people. If they catch him alive , then he disappears like the other d00d, and improvements will be made to the system, which will be applied from the feedback regarding the case, etc.

Its a never ending process, and constantly getting better, so theres always room for improvement, and theres the fact that there will never be a utopia.

Makashima's bio: It could be that years back, they found out about people having the crime coefficient immunity condition and this brought the sibyl employees concern. So they decided to find one of these kinds of people, and they found makashima, who was a baby back then. He probably spent most of his whole life in a sibyl facility.
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Danielcook said:
Naxrrhid said:
So the old man was Gin's father. That was a pretty interesting development. It screams out: father giving up his life to protect/save his son in the final battle to me.

I suspect Shogo to be part of some experimental and/or development team for the Sibyl system and has some secret the higher ups don't want coming to light.

Also Akane might have the same 'condition' as Shogo, in that her PP can never get clouded. Will that mean she will have to be made to disappear?

Either way, with Gen at the helm of this anime, I'm not expecting a satisfactory ending that I will like and rate high, but as it stands right now, this anime has gotten really good and I'm really enjoying it. The wait is on for episode 14 now.

Episode Naxcore: 5 out of 5


You know how they were talking about how the sibyl computer was still developing, as it only brings the greatest amount of happiness to the greatest amount of people? Well, i was thinking that maybe Makashima is actually one of those people associated with sibyl, and is testing the system to see if it is actually efficient in the job that it is supposed to do, bring happiness/well-being to the majority of the people. If they catch him alive , then he disappears like the other d00d, and improvements will be made to the system, which will be applied from the feedback regarding the case, etc.

Its a never ending process, and constantly getting better, so theres always room for improvement, and theres the fact that there will never be a utopia.

Makashima's bio: It could be that years back, they found out about people having the crime coefficient immunity condition and this brought the sibyl employees concern. So they decided to find one of these kinds of people, and they found makashima, who was a baby back then. He probably spent most of his whole life in a sibyl facility.


The bio you came up with is exactly along the lines I was thinking. He was probably a test subject along with the other dude in some secret experiment for the sibyl system. My guess is that the sibyl is basically rigged or geared towards keeping certain people down and others in power and basically has the world in a somewhat master and slave dance. This would explain why Shogo is trying to find out what he really is, since according to what he grew up believing was that one such as him, cannot exist.
Jan 17, 2013 4:40 PM

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Great episode. It was quite surprising he was his dad and i think that woman is related to makishima, she sits in the chair before with her eyes shaking and that is usually used to show fear or shock. Can't wait for it to really get deep into the hunt for makishima, perhaps they will go old school and shotgun his head in ^_^

Theory about him being a tester is a good idea :) Woman is suspicious, she is clearly bad in some way xD can't get enough of this show. It keeps me excited throughout even without action, that episode was all talking but i loved it and was intently reading/listening the whole time. A well written show ine very aspect. When the real meat of the show does hit with hunting/fighting makishima it is going to be so exciting and amazing i think :) only a couple months to go now :P
jimbob1141Jan 17, 2013 4:47 PM
Does anyone else need a doctor to confirm that someone without a head is dead?
Jan 17, 2013 4:45 PM
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wasnt expecting that relationship.


is that woman his mom or what? they look similar. wtf was with her at the end though. suspicious
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Best episode in quite some time. Definitely shat on that last episode. lmao.
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Hakuromatsu said:
Danielcook said:
Another thing that bugged me is that no one eveb acknowledged the cyborg guy dying, he's the head of a large robotics engineering company. What's up with that?


Why is that important to the story, though?

Senguji's house (apparently) being above the execution ground is enough to make an investigation if you ask me. I was totally calling episode 12 would take part of it there. I mean, Oryo's head in the execution ground, Oryo's (and probably more) bones in Senguji's house and a ton of more stuff

I would laugh if we see Makishima there when they obviously lured Kogami to the same place where Oryo's was killed

edit: guys, what does 'kun' mean?
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Just from the previous interactions when bringing up Kougami and how he became an enforcer, I picked up those slight hints on the Father-son relationship between Ginoza and Masaoka. So I wasn't too suprised about that reveal, I basically sensed that there would be dialogue between the two characters later in the episode when Ginoza was getting his Psycho-pass checked.

As said earlier, I also reckon there is some history between Makishima and that woman at the end.

Also, was that the Heart of Darkness that Kougami was reading? How fitting. It correlates with the fact that the they are going to have to abandon "civilized" life, one ruled by the Sibyl system, and delve into the Heart of Darkness, the "savage" lifestyle in order to capture Makishima.
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I didn't figure out that Masaoka and Ginoza were father and son because I wasn't looking for it. And people shouldn't call others idiots just because they didn't figure it out sooner

Anyway great episode! I'm liking Akane more and more after this episode. And creepy old woman is creepy.
Jan 17, 2013 5:31 PM

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I wonder if the old creepy lady is related to makishima, they look alike and she called him *shogo-kun*
Masaoka being ginoza's father wasn't surprising to me.
Jan 17, 2013 5:34 PM

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MC117 said:
I wonder if the old creepy lady is related to makishima, they look alike and she called him *shogo-kun*
Masaoka being ginoza's father wasn't surprising to me.


At this point, 3 things seem viable to me:

1. Scientist and Test Subject

2. Teacher/Student

3. Mother/Son
Jan 17, 2013 5:45 PM

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Naxrrhid said:
MC117 said:
I wonder if the old creepy lady is related to makishima, they look alike and she called him *shogo-kun*
Masaoka being ginoza's father wasn't surprising to me.


At this point, 3 things seem viable to me:

1. Scientist and Test Subject

2. Teacher/Student

3. Mother/Son


You forgot boyfriend/girlfriend.
Jan 17, 2013 5:48 PM

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Danielcook said:
Naxrrhid said:
MC117 said:
I wonder if the old creepy lady is related to makishima, they look alike and she called him *shogo-kun*
Masaoka being ginoza's father wasn't surprising to me.


At this point, 3 things seem viable to me:

1. Scientist and Test Subject

2. Teacher/Student

3. Mother/Son


You forgot boyfriend/girlfriend.


Akane puking is moe..., me puking is not lol
Jan 17, 2013 5:58 PM

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Akane was great this episode,Im so glad she improved and became stronger. Õh so the old man is Ginoza´s dad...
I want Kougami to catch Shogo but I wish they blew up the sybil system cause I hate it.

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Jan 17, 2013 6:03 PM

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Akane was great this episode,Im so glad she improved and became stronger. Õh so the old man is Ginoza´s dad...
I want Kougami to catch Shogo but I wish they blew up the sybil system cause I hate it.


I'm guessing from now that the final final boss will be taking the system down.
Jan 17, 2013 6:06 PM

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Well... that Sibila system is a fraud...

And that old man is Ginoza's father! =O
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Jan 17, 2013 6:06 PM

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Awesome Akane! Maybe she is also "asymptomatic".... and so the speculations before in the many previous comments that he was Gino's dad was right.. too bad I was not surprised about it now.. hehe.
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Oh, the big reveal is there! Masaoka's Gino's dad. I think errbody saw that one coming.

Akane's great. Just saying. The way she bounced back so quickly was almost out of character, but I guess she's proven herself to be pretty decent at adapting. I wish they showed her right after the incident instead of like a two-week skip.

Old lady after the credits... She knows Shogo personally? She either knows him from a past incident (and has an axe to grind with him) or they might've even collaborated before... Hmm........ HMMMM...

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Akane's a pretty strong lady. I wonder if the only way her crime coefficient turns red is when she has hot, rough, sexual intercourse with Kogami. Lol.

ooh lawd! Thank you for typing out what i've always been thinking. I ship them.


Hehehhehehehehehehehehehhehehehehehehehehehehehehe I ship 'em too heheheheheheheheheheh
Jan 17, 2013 6:53 PM
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Well ep 13 was filled with lots of indepth conversations Gino's convos with the chairman and his dad were the main ones ^_^
But the minor ones were interesting too:
Kogami and Akane for example Akane visits him at the hospitial and they try to keep up a casual conversation at first. But soon enough they both get to say what they want to say to eachother. Kogami finally stares her down and confronts the main thing (Akane's recovery over her friend's death) Akane does another apology and then she admits that she can understand kogami now "No one will doubt you anymore we have the same goal now...." She says this NOT even facing him and leaves the room (Don't goooooo!)
But then we get to see kogami's reactions to her words after she leaves and IT. KILLS. ME.
Its not a face of relief, or grrr she got to see shogo and i didn't or anger. He makes this face of thought process.....passively like mehh.
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Not a bad episode, although not much action this time around. Akane's memories brought back some harsh memories, I like the screenplay (right word?) during that scene, it was well done. The ending was also a twist, and I figured just as much.
4/5.

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The moment i saw the old lady some episodes (?) ago i was like ''I wonder if she have something to do with Shogo'' and here we go.Maybe shes his mother? well anyway, we will see.
Akane! you strong gurl! im starting to like you more and more :D
So Masaoka is Gino's father? well i did not see that coming.I thought he have something to do with his father but not be him himself.Nice.
Urobucher, just don't kill everyone please >_>

5/5 gimme more.
Jan 17, 2013 7:47 PM

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So many people called Masaoka being Gino's father.

Urobutcher gonna kill everyone.
Jan 17, 2013 8:05 PM

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Dude gets recommended to talk to his father.

PLOT TWIST: His father was one of the enforcers all along.

:OOOOOOO

Awesome.
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Fallenkingzero said:
I had my suspicions that Masaoka was Ginoza's father ever since that episode when they were arguing violently and someone hinted that they had known each other from somewhere besides work and that there was a reason that Ginoza seemed to hate him. This anime just keeps getting better.


Masaoka was apparently Ginoza father?!

AND WHAT IS THIS AT THE END?!! THAT OLD LADY KNOWS EVERYTHING ABOUT MAKISHIMA ALL ALONG?!! TOTALLY NOT EXPECTED!!!! WHAT THE HELL!!!

What's gonna happen next!?

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So many people called Masaoka being Gino's father.

Urobutcher gonna kill everyone.


Stop sayin that!!! GODDAMN INSANITIES!
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Dammit I swear that ep flew by me...>_<! Why's gotta be so damn good, lol.

No but seriously that was a very awesome ep. I can't say I'm too surprised to realize Gino and Masaoka are father/son, I was starting to really catch that vibe over the past few eps--especially ep 10 when he jacked his ass up by the collar after Gino was really making Akane feel bad. The only thing I thought there was 'damn, that look some daddy tough love discipline right there....', lol. Still it's not to see a different angle on their relationship. It would at least seem no matter how much he might have been angry at him turning into latent criminal--it does seem to be part of him that does still respect his insight and advice (dare I even say LOVE....aww, lol).

I definitely gotta give big props to my girl Akane!! That took a helluva lot of strength do what she did w/ that memory scoop. I think this the first true time we see that Gino is genuinely impressed and respected her tenacity to do something that risky.

And need I even mention about Akane & Kogami's hospital moment? I think it's so sweet how she always stops by to see him when he ends up in the hospital (which seems to be rather often.....livin' dangerously much, Ko-chan? lol). It seems to me like Kogami seems to really let her a little bit into his space/world the more they're around each other. Like Akane mentioned it's nice to know now that people know Kogami wasn't crazy and that he was on to something in discovering Shogo is a REAL bad guy and mastermind behind all this.

DAMN this ep ended too soon!! :P
Jan 17, 2013 8:15 PM
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WOW... just WOW.

an unexpected ending at the end! God, I feel speechless right now...

Hell, even they just skipped the flashback from last episode & back to the regular story just like that!
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Akane, has more guts than your average guy. If it was a pain test between me and her, she would win.
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A lot of amusing posts in this thread lol. You guys are awesome Nothing relating to the father/son thing, in case people take offense to what I'm typing next o3o

I was hoping Masaoka wouldn't be Gino's dad since it was painfully obvious for a while now, but oh well.
Still a great episode. I love dem cliffhangers.
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A lot of amusing posts in this thread lol. You guys are awesome Nothing relating to the father/son thing, in case people take offense to what I'm typing next o3o

I was hoping Masaoka wouldn't be Gino's dad since it was painfully obvious for a while now, but oh well.
Still a great episode. I love dem cliffhangers.


I really couldn't care less about father/son stuff but, I just can't believe what the hell just happened at the end till it left speechless (I don't care IF I speak my mind whatever I want due it gets me feelings as well) that what's gonna happen next since there is NO episode preview till next week.

Great, seems I got NO replies whatsoever about last episode. Does it left confused to you guys about what happened?
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JeffreyZin said:
Monochrome said:
A lot of amusing posts in this thread lol. You guys are awesome Nothing relating to the father/son thing, in case people take offense to what I'm typing next o3o

I was hoping Masaoka wouldn't be Gino's dad since it was painfully obvious for a while now, but oh well.
Still a great episode. I love dem cliffhangers.


I really don't care less about father/son stuff, I just can't believe what the hell just happened at the end till it left speechless (I don't care IF I speak my mind whatever I want due it gets me feelings as well) that what's gonna happen next since there is NO episode preview till next week.

Great, seems I got NO replies whatsoever about last episode. Does it left confused to you guys about what happened?


Me too. So many things has happend that, i just lost track.
Jan 17, 2013 8:42 PM

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Eh, didn't expect Masaoka to be Ginoza's dad but it make sense then why he treat him rather harsher than the others Enforcers.

I'm sure Makishima realized that his face will be known when he show himself to a detective so he must be planning something wicked.

Jan 17, 2013 8:47 PM
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Nice! I felt as if I were watching a spin-off of Ghost in the Shell. Interesting enough to glue me to the screen all the time.
Jan 17, 2013 8:52 PM

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This show just gets better and better!

Akane, you fucking boss.

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It feels like that Akane is one of the 2 million people who's psycho-pass don't go up, same as Makishima.


Yeah... Hopefully Makishima won't find that out and change her whole view point on Sibly system...

Hmmmm... Or maybe it'll make the show better? Akane as final boss? As a former detective, she might be a lot more dangerous is she is to stray ^_^

Imagine her smiling as she kills people, while explaining that it's for the good of human race... Somehow, I got a terrible feeling that this might actually happen... Or is it a great feeling?
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I really couldn't care less about father/son stuff but, I just can't believe what the hell just happened at the end till it left speechless (I don't care IF I speak my mind whatever I want due it gets me feelings as well) that what's gonna happen next since there is NO episode preview till next week.
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Me too. So many things has happend that, i just lost track.
That's cool. I just didn't want to risk someone thinking I was being a bitch and laughing at those who didn't figure it out. It can be hard to predict how people will respond! :P
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Holy crap that part at the end. God, I'm starting to think that they have some grudge too. Loving it.
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Wow great episode...felt this should've been the episode last week. Made last week felt...out of place.

My opinion of Akane went back up in a positive note.

That was one hell of a move on her part. What a strong will and my favorite scene in this episode.
Jan 17, 2013 9:51 PM

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Akane is gangsta. That iron will! Impressive.
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Akane was brave to do the memory scan, I thought she would get depressed but she was strong. That chief lady at the end, that was creepy.
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The episode was okay but besides seeing that Masaoka is Ginos father basically nothing happened... :/

And I don't like the new OP.
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In other thoughts about this episode:-

Who the hell is Touma Kouzaburo anyway?! Why is related & knew about Makishima all the time?!

And yes, I can't believe they never mentioned about that Cyborg guy with a shotgun (Senguji Toyohisa) ever again. Probably they'll like 'Fcuk him.'.
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She's his granny/mom. I call it (this time I'm right!). I feel it, she's shady and sketchy.

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The whole thing about the last guy whose crime coefficient didn't increase was interesting. I wonder if they will get some old school weapons that would be pretty cool.


Dunno bro. Those high tech guns double as mini nukes. Not only are they a 1 hit kill, their shots also explode on impact if you charge them. They also look badass too of course.
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