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May 8, 7:30 AM

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@perseii the only one here not blinded by confirmation bias. I tried visiting the site to look for the original source and almost immediately regretted it. The site is so sketchy it makes the onion looks credible. If i was using windows, i have little doubt the site would have given me a virus.
It also didn’t list an actual reputable source like asahi or mainichi. Actually I don’t think it actually listed a source, so for all i know it could all be made up.

btw op is the same guy who complained loudly how nintendo censored the peach shower scene…only to be proven wrong.

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What I said about paper mario ttyd remake was the catcalling getting removed which is proven true. The bath scene in peach was confirmed safe so far. As for this news, you can even see this youtuber decided to report on it. You can question the source, but not every interview will have whatever "reliable source" your looking for. The source of this interview is not with me if my track record does bother you. Just out of curiousity, you don't believe Disney executives would push globalization?
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@chinobot I don't think gatekeeping would help this one.

It's just that American producers REALLY enjoy sucking up to certain crowds that want to """fix""" everything. Which is fucked, I could not care less about anything else people like to argue about, but leave my god damn media out of it.

Is it really so much to ask to not have every god damn thing affected by the bastard higher ups?

They should just stfu and make their money. Leave the art to the people who actually give a shit about it.
APolygons2 said:
It's just that American producers REALLY enjoy sucking up to certain crowds that want to """fix""" everything. Which is fucked, I could not care less about anything else people like to argue about, but leave my god damn media out of it.

Is it really so much to ask to not have every god damn thing affected by the bastard higher ups?

They should just stfu and make their money. Leave the art to the people who actually give a shit about it.

Coaghim said:
OMG...

So it begins...

Curse all those ESG c*cksuckers & all the fools that defend these practices. Why is this disease spreading like an unstoppable virus globally? What is their end goal? Why?


You guys don't get it. These people don't want to see plebs happy and will ruin the things you love just to spite you. They don't care about the profits, they already own everything.

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APolygons2 said:
It's just that American producers REALLY enjoy sucking up to certain crowds that want to """fix""" everything. Which is fucked, I could not care less about anything else people like to argue about, but leave my god damn media out of it.

Is it really so much to ask to not have every god damn thing affected by the bastard higher ups?

They should just stfu and make their money. Leave the art to the people who actually give a shit about it.

Coaghim said:
OMG...

So it begins...

Curse all those ESG c*cksuckers & all the fools that defend these practices. Why is this disease spreading like an unstoppable virus globally? What is their end goal? Why?


You guys don't get it. These people don't want to see plebs happy and will ruin the things you love just to spite you. They don't care about the profits, they already own everything.

@Shizuna Yeah well curse those buzzkill joykillers. May their spouse turn against them & make their personal lives miserable.
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capitalism is about maximizing profit so its inevitable that they will serve all markets or consumers especially with globalization
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I would not call it plain on capitalism. The esg money is literally tax funded so it is socialism. If it was capitalism, the state would not protect the esg flopping companies scaring investors away.
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APolygons2 said:
It's just that American producers REALLY enjoy sucking up to certain crowds that want to """fix""" everything. Which is fucked, I could not care less about anything else people like to argue about, but leave my god damn media out of it.

Is it really so much to ask to not have every god damn thing affected by the bastard higher ups?

They should just stfu and make their money. Leave the art to the people who actually give a shit about it.

Coaghim said:
OMG...

So it begins...

Curse all those ESG c*cksuckers & all the fools that defend these practices. Why is this disease spreading like an unstoppable virus globally? What is their end goal? Why?


You guys don't get it. These people don't want to see plebs happy and will ruin the things you love just to spite you. They don't care about the profits, they already own everything.

@Shizuna I Don't think they are just sitting there with some hidden plan to slowly ruin all of media, but honestly, that would be more comforting than the reality.
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What I said about paper mario ttyd remake was the catcalling getting removed which is proven true. The bath scene in peach was confirmed safe so far. As for this news, you can even see this youtuber decided to report on it. You can question the source, but not every interview will have whatever "reliable source" your looking for. The source of this interview is not with me if my track record does bother you. Just out of curiousity, you don't believe Disney executives would push globalization?
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it makes sense that Disney would want to expand to as many markets as they can. that doesn't necessarily mean that they will force their hands and censor anime that is offered on their platform. i will reserve judgment until they actually do censor anime.
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Everyone should boycott Disney at this moment

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The only solution to this throwing Disney away. As long as people pay them money, they'll keep doing it. They understand money, and you can only talk to them with it. Cancel subscription, pirate, and make it clear to them. If Sony fell, Disney will. "A shift toward more acceptable expressions" = "suppression of freedom of expression."
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Everyone should boycott Disney at this moment

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The news source is not really credible to begin with.
May 8, 9:33 AM

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LSSJ_Gaming said:
This has jack shit to do with "DEI" or "ESG" or any other stupid right-wing buzzword


Jesus, dude. Are you even trying? This is just pathetic lmao
@KawaiiTanuki

they literally are just buzzwords meant to drive up controversy at this point and have been actively eroded from their original meanings.
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Before you lose your minds and pick up your pitchforks, please actually read the article the video is covering (click at your own risk, my browser keeps calling the site "unsafe," which doesn't help with credibility). The article even admits that they machine-translated (DeepL) an interview conducted by a Japanese site (really?!), so there may be some stuff lost or mistranslated.

I admit not having watched the video and only skimming the article, but the phrase "censor anime" seems like clickbait-y exaggeration to me.

The interviewee seems to the manager of a streaming platform commenting on the fact that there is a global audience for everything now, and that the anime industry (not Disney, but includes Disney, I assume) is more aware of this than before. Which is a completely expected and normal thing to say. If this guy said anything else, like "anime must not change, and we will host art in all shapes and forms, no matter the content," I would've been surprised and even a little worried.

I do think Disney's content policy is comically heavy-handed (they censor their own movies; look up CGI butt hair for their 80's movie Splash, for example), but I find the overreaction and outrage farming equally annoying.
@perseii

Yeah, that site is pretty known for being very unreliable. They actively twist facts and create rage bait headlines in order to drive vitriol against certain groups, companies, and marginalized communities. They actively have beef with Disney for being "woke", so they definitely have an incentive to make whatever is happening seem more incendiary and sensationalized than what is actually going on. I definitely also agree that the use of DeepL is a good reason to be skeptical as well since AI translations have proven to be pretty unreliable compared to human ones, and with the source's bias against Disney that definitely should be taken note of. Disney does suck with its censorship policies and needs work on it a bit, but it is definitely concerning to see the community actively using this source uncritically and not doing further research.t feels like the community as a whole hasn't done their due diligence and won't fact check against other sources like is recommended in academic study because it affirms their biases.

Disney has its problems for sure with censorship in Splash, Bluey, and having a weird aversion to sexual content (to the point of firing people who have created NSFW content which is rumored to be the reason writer Beau De Mayo got fired from X-Men '97), but it definitely feels like people are actively finding reasons to hate the company as they have been under A LOT of scrutiny in the public eye in the past 5 years some reasons warranted, others just stemmed in hate and outrage over trivial matters. It's one thing for people to be critical of things Disney does, but it's so exhausting seeing people use anything they do as ammunition for the "Culture War" nonsense and to affirm their positions. I mean look at many people fell for the outrage bait here, the article clearly worked in trying to drive up an emotional reaction out of people regardless of the actual matter of what is happening.
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@perseii the only one here not blinded by confirmation bias. I tried visiting the site to look for the original source and almost immediately regretted it. The site is so sketchy it makes the onion looks credible. If i was using windows, i have little doubt the site would have given me a virus.
It also didn’t list an actual reputable source like asahi or mainichi. Actually I don’t think it actually listed a source, so for all i know it could all be made up.

btw op is the same guy who complained loudly how nintendo censored the peach shower scene…only to be proven wrong.


What is wrong with the site? From what I can tell poorly translating this it is an offshoot of what was originally part of Mainichi apparently. Is it not?
https://ja.wikipedia.org/wiki/MANTANWEB

I just figured id reply on a hypothetical if what was said were true since it isnt really out of place with things Disney does.

https://www.polygon.com/animation-cartoons/2020/5/27/21272224/disney-studio-ghibli-partnership-dubs-history

(I hate watchmojo but it listed more than some other sites)
https://www.watchmojo.com/articles/top-20-things-censored-on-disney-plus/a-history-of-edits-who-framed-roger-rabbit

https://www.nbcnews.com/nbc-out/out-pop-culture/disney-censors%2D%73%65x%2Daffection-pixar-films-according-letter-employees-rcna19505

Though OP did misrepresented what was being said. Not sure why since actual implications are worse than Disney doing anything. If that is what is going on it is related to Japan's declining population making them think they have to turn into the West to survive but really they just need to stop overproducing anime.

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Yeah, that site is pretty known for being very unreliable. They actively twist facts and create rage bait headlines in order to drive vitriol against certain groups, companies, and marginalized communities.

They have multiple article writers that have different approaches. Some jump to conclusions and sensationalize some are very cautious and balanced. They also linked to the source a Japanese site called Mantanweb.

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I mean look at many people fell for the outrage bait here, the article clearly worked in trying to drive up an emotional reaction out of people regardless of the actual matter of what is happening.

OP was doing the bait though, the article isnt making the claim OP did. Like i said i was just rolling with it since this is the kind of thing Disney does, even though it isnt really Disney behind this.
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Can we please unfreeze Walt Disney now? Someone need to take back the throne from Bob Iger.
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He probably does not want to see what Disney has become. Lol
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It seems another youtuber gave their thoughts on it.

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Ah yes, a disaster is approaching, because someone on YouTube shared their apocalyptic scenario about the anime industry, kekw.

If, apart from reading tweets and YT videos, you do a basic research, consider the context, and also compare it to general Disney's approach to the anime, you might notice that it ain't a big deal. At least not as presented in those clips, resembling more of a clickbait calls to seethe and rage, rather than something informative. Weebs gonna weeb, eh?

And I'm saying it as someone who isn't a huge fan of modern Disney.
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Here ya go. No way would I feel need to translate an entire article manually lol



OPs bullshit aside this is still concerning that these studios in Japan feel they have to cater to the international or Western market now.
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@herry98 Nice try, but people don't care about details. They see a thing that looks bad, and immediately shit their pants. They could literally just be saying they want a specific type of anime for their platform, and have that be all there is to it, and no one would care.
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@herry98 Nice try, but people don't care about details. They see a thing that looks bad, and immediately shit their pants. They could literally just be saying they want a specific type of anime for their platform, and have that be all there is to it, and no one would care.
@FanofAction
Personally I just dont have time to investigate something I cant even do anything about anyway. Though I took time later and checked the Japanese article for more details after machine translating it. I didnt bother watching vid OP posted since i know he watches a lot of cringey youtubers.

herry98 said:
It's essential to be cautious with sensational headlines. The context behind the statement is crucial. It's possible that the executive was referring to specific content that might not align with Disney's values or standards for their platform in Japan. Censorship can take many forms, from editing explicit scenes to ensuring content is age-appropriate. Understanding the details of the situation would provide a clearer picture of what's being discussed.

Disney has a pretty prudent idea of what is age appropriate ..though it isnt exactly about Disney just the industry in general getting fucked over from greed
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@traed Fair. I just think people in general should at least attempt to look into things before being all alarmist. As far as the video goes, I didn't watch it either beyond an initial glance to see the article being talked about. A title like that shows clear bias from that start, which I'm not interested in.

For all the people worried about anime, I'm more worried about the animation industry over here though. The big corporations on this side seem to give zero fucks about animation.
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@traed Fair. I just think people in general should at least attempt to look into things before being all alarmist. As far as the video goes, I didn't watch it either beyond an initial glance to see the article being talked about. A title like that shows clear bias from that start, which I'm not interested in.

For all the people worried about anime, I'm more worried about the animation industry over here though. The big corporations on this side seem to give zero fucks about animation.
@FanofAction
Yeah I think same usually. Just cant be bothered and just go with the hypothetical sometimes.

Both in the West and Japan the animation industry is in a bad state for the people that work in it and for the media preservation itself.
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Yeah I think same usually. Just cant be bothered and just go with the hypothetical sometimes.

Both in the West and Japan the animation industry is in a bad state for the people that work in it and for the media preservation itself.
@traed Oh yeah, for sure when it comes to how workers are being treated they both have issues. As far as media preservation goes, I'm not really familiar with how Japan handles that to be honest. But I agree that is something that should be worried about on all fronts. The willingness to just scrub something from a digital platform with no other way to access it is very concerning.
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ok, first point. ESG... what tha fudge is that? i just did a general net search of the acronym. so wiki gave me this "Environmental, social, and governance (ESG), is a set of aspects, including environmental issues, social issues and corporate governance that can be considered in investing." is THAT the acronym these folks are talking about? what tha HELL does that have to do with anything this YouTuber or the Disney+ Japan Executive said?

second point, where is the actual ARTICLE and some quotes from said D+Jap. Executive? THIS kind of 'coverage' by this YouTube guy is the reason why i don't follow or dig into 70% of the otaku 'stuffs' on YT. most of the folks i've watched in the past 2 years on otaku 'stuffs' are guys like AdvisorLorne and AniNews and i've followed FoxenAnime for over 5 years... folks that actually give 2 craps about the sources, the anime, Japan, the industries, live there, work there, are 100% bilingual or fairly fluent in both English and Japanese... people like ME... not some Johnny Come Lately that got started back in 2006... 18 years is a decent track record... but from my perspective of getting into anime back in 1990?!? he is a noob (to me).

third point, if you do NOT know the actual market-share percentages or the Dollar (& international currencies) to Yen differences in income THROUGHOUT THE ENTIRE OTAKU INDUSTRIES? shut up about it and don't say a word. throwing around FAKE NUMBERS or 'cloud castles in the sky stats' just shows me this YT guy did NOT DO HIS RESEARCH!

fourth point, Disney+ ?? ok... you folks who know it better than me, all i know is general newsbytes i see on Google etc. i do NOT use them, other than 'grey web capture' files on 'those anime sites'. hasn't their US and EU subscribers and revenue stream TANKED LIKE A MFer? in the past year to two years? i read two articles back in April 2024 about a Corporate Meeting in the US of the Disney+ execs. and the report they published stated their Q1 (Jan to Mar 2024) numbers DROPPED in subscribers and income OVER 30% of their average numbers for THE PREVIOUS THREE QUARTERS! that's including the addition of Bleach to their 'stuffs' as well as HULU (which Disney owns a kinda sorta big piece of nowadays) and all the anime HULU is adding in the past lil while... as well as all the Marvel and Star Wars stuffs. so if Disney+, with all their old stuff from back in the Uncle Walt era, the 80's 90's and 2000's stuff like Lion King and Aladdin etc. , the Marvel stuff, the Star Wars stuff, and now anime AND HULU... with all THAT? Disney+ can't hook and KEEP people paying the fee(s) over the first three months of 2024 to the tune of MORE THAN A 1/4 drop in users? sounds to me like their business plan SUCKS! also, last i heard/read DISNEY DOESN'T INVEST IN ANIME! they just (so far) buy the streaming rights to a FEW shows RECENTLY! last i read, Viz Media (owned by big Yen Guys in Japan) is footing the whole bill for moving Bleach TYBWA into English and other languages... Disney just OUTBID EVERYBODY for international STREAMING ONLY rights. but that's just one title...

fifth point, OMFG! just let the 'fake controversy over political localizers' just DIE already. just let it die a quiet, whimpering, death. every company 'bitched about' has either been THE big name in making anime available to international audiences (Funi) since i was a teenager... or 'some' of the other companies (like Sentai) that has been doing dubs n subs for more than two decades. these companies, know what tha hell they're doing a whole lot better than some vocal raving randos on the internet. y'all quitcherbitchin... this IS NOT THE FIRST TIME 'issues' with subs n dubs n screenwriting/translation choices and censorship and cut n paste editing of anime... has cropped up in the past 30 years. y'all know Macross? y'all know ROBOTECH? y'all know the company named Harmony Gold? if you don't? learn some anime dubbing history. y'all know Cardcaptor Sakura(1998-2000 version)? y'all know the company named Nelvana? y'all know about the North American Fox Kids broadcast of Cardcaptors? if you don't? learn some anime dubbing history! because THAT one? was only 24 and 23 years ago. Harmony Gold's ROBOTECH was in 1990 and where i got started with anime.

aight, that's all i got right now.
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ok, first point. ESG... what tha fudge is that? i just did a general net search of the acronym. so wiki gave me this "Environmental, social, and governance (ESG), is a set of aspects, including environmental issues, social issues and corporate governance that can be considered in investing." is THAT the acronym these folks are talking about? what tha HELL does that have to do with anything this YouTuber or the Disney+ Japan Executive said?

second point, where is the actual ARTICLE and some quotes from said D+Jap. Executive? THIS kind of 'coverage' by this YouTube guy is the reason why i don't follow or dig into 70% of the otaku 'stuffs' on YT. most of the folks i've watched in the past 2 years on otaku 'stuffs' are guys like AdvisorLorne and AniNews and i've followed FoxenAnime for over 5 years... folks that actually give 2 craps about the sources, the anime, Japan, the industries, live there, work there, are 100% bilingual or fairly fluent in both English and Japanese... people like ME... not some Johnny Come Lately that got started back in 2006... 18 years is a decent track record... but from my perspective of getting into anime back in 1990?!? he is a noob (to me).

third point, if you do NOT know the actual market-share percentages or the Dollar (& international currencies) to Yen differences in income THROUGHOUT THE ENTIRE OTAKU INDUSTRIES? shut up about it and don't say a word. throwing around FAKE NUMBERS or 'cloud castles in the sky stats' just shows me this YT guy did NOT DO HIS RESEARCH!

fourth point, Disney+ ?? ok... you folks who know it better than me, all i know is general newsbytes i see on Google etc. i do NOT use them, other than 'grey web capture' files on 'those anime sites'. hasn't their US and EU subscribers and revenue stream TANKED LIKE A MFer? in the past year to two years? i read two articles back in April 2024 about a Corporate Meeting in the US of the Disney+ execs. and the report they published stated their Q1 (Jan to Mar 2024) numbers DROPPED in subscribers and income OVER 30% of their average numbers for THE PREVIOUS THREE QUARTERS! that's including the addition of Bleach to their 'stuffs' as well as HULU (which Disney owns a kinda sorta big piece of nowadays) and all the anime HULU is adding in the past lil while... as well as all the Marvel and Star Wars stuffs. so if Disney+, with all their old stuff from back in the Uncle Walt era, the 80's 90's and 2000's stuff like Lion King and Aladdin etc. , the Marvel stuff, the Star Wars stuff, and now anime AND HULU... with all THAT? Disney+ can't hook and KEEP people paying the fee(s) over the first three months of 2024 to the tune of MORE THAN A 1/4 drop in users? sounds to me like their business plan SUCKS! also, last i heard/read DISNEY DOESN'T INVEST IN ANIME! they just (so far) buy the streaming rights to a FEW shows RECENTLY! last i read, Viz Media (owned by big Yen Guys in Japan) is footing the whole bill for moving Bleach TYBWA into English and other languages... Disney just OUTBID EVERYBODY for international STREAMING ONLY rights. but that's just one title...

fifth point, OMFG! just let the 'fake controversy over political localizers' just DIE already. just let it die a quiet, whimpering, death. every company 'bitched about' has either been THE big name in making anime available to international audiences (Funi) since i was a teenager... or 'some' of the other companies (like Sentai) that has been doing dubs n subs for more than two decades. these companies, know what tha hell they're doing a whole lot better than some vocal raving randos on the internet. y'all quitcherbitchin... this IS NOT THE FIRST TIME 'issues' with subs n dubs n screenwriting/translation choices and censorship and cut n paste editing of anime... has cropped up in the past 30 years. y'all know Macross? y'all know ROBOTECH? y'all know the company named Harmony Gold? if you don't? learn some anime dubbing history. y'all know Cardcaptor Sakura(1998-2000 version)? y'all know the company named Nelvana? y'all know about the North American Fox Kids broadcast of Cardcaptors? if you don't? learn some anime dubbing history! because THAT one? was only 24 and 23 years ago. Harmony Gold's ROBOTECH was in 1990 and where i got started with anime.

aight, that's all i got right now.
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1) ESG - Environmental, Social and Governance. The social part is the biggest problem because it effectively allows prioritizing people by belonging to a social group instead of being competent.

2) Even if this is just a rumor, it's still a really chilling rumor. If anime goes under entertainment is going under too.

3) Blah, blah, money. Doesn't matter now, especially to someone like Disney who had several major box office bombs last year. This proves that it's not about money but a political agenda.

4) Disney actually didn't upload everything from their catalog on Disney +. They still don't want to release Song of the South because it undermines their modern image, and they added warnings to Peter Pan how "it's not suitable for kids" because Native stereotypes.

5) hur CONSOOM. The whole dub butchering era only occured because of America's insane political extremism in the Reagan, Clinton and Bush eras. If people do still care about those dubs, it's because it was all people actually had available, you had no Internet to find raws. Also, speaking of stupid political jokes in translations, easily the biggest offender would be the anti-Trump quip in Hajimete no Gal. Like what do the American presidential elections have to do with a romcom about a guy trying to approach a gyaru?
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KiliianSleipnir said:
where is the actual ARTICLE and some quotes from said D+Jap. Executive?

See my post above #68. I am still trying to finish having redundancy translations so you can cross reference to guess what they meant.
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It seems another youtuber gave their thoughts on it.

@rohan121 2:27 i dunno who this YellowFlash guy is... but... his 'source' just lied their asses off. "Robotech, the space opera anime epic of humans defending their homeworld against alien domination, is set to return for a new generation of audiences as Funimation premieres all 85 episodes of the series remastered — along with the two movies, Robotech II: The Sentinels and Robotech: The Shadow Chronicles — on its streaming service in the United States, Canada, United Kingdom, Ireland, Australia and New Zealand on August 24." https://www.animationmagazine.net/2021/08/remastered-robotech-series-movies-set-for-funimation-streaming-blu-ray/

Funi's old email newsletter informed me of their BOXED SET of remastered BR disks for ROBOTECH a few years back AND Crunchy is STILL streaming ROBOTECH right now! https://www.crunchyroll.com/series/GEXH3WKDP/robotech

now maybe MAYBE Disney got ahold of the 'old masters' for MACROSS and is doing 'something' with it. ah i see! yep, they have. https://comicbook.com/anime/news/macross-anime-disney-streaming/ well that's good! i'm glad the fans of this OG anime will have a way to watch it without pirating or being force-fed Harmony Gold's work from back in the 1990's. i personally liked HG's work and own the entire franchise of ROBOTECH on their old DVDs...

OMG! 7:12 is this guy a noob or an IDIOT!? yes, streaming got anime popular WORLD WIDE... and not just CartoonNetwork and AnimeNetwork on cable TV in North America. Funimation did it first in the US by dubbing Dragonball and distributing it via syndication on broadcast TV airwave networks in limited markets. but the 'big push' OUTSIDE NA didn't happen till 2000'n something with the explosion of 'grey web' streaming and fanslations and fansubs and official works electronic versions and paper publishing. Funi got the ball rolling and has run with it HARD ever since they were founded. Viz Media. ADV Films. Sentai Filmworks. Crunchyroll. everybody had a role to play.

yet ANOTHER YTer that does NOT SOURCE THE ORIGINAL ARTICLE! just this one site, who at LEAST quoted the Disney+Japan Executive's interview.

also, VIDEO GRAMS? baaad translation. disks. DVDs. Blurays. VHS tapes! OVA only releases of manga titles before anime exploded on TV in Japan.
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rohan121 said:
Do you think anime should cater to "modern audiences."
I think this direction was pretty obvious given the rise of esg scores and Sony buying anime. Do you think Japan will bend the knee to esg like Pokemon and Sony? We really see this frequently with modern games

And this is why disney sucks

It's baffling how people don't realize the whole reason anime gained popularity outside japan is because it's different from their local entertainment, censorship will only loose them money
What debating with DigiCat is like according to APolygons2
That's why I thought a discussion would be pointless. It doesn't feel like a debate. It feels like I'm playing chess and somehow lose to an uno reverse card after loosing all my monopoly money lol
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This is why Disney getting so much power was a mistake, though I'm not too sure about this one, Disney Plus has Black Rock Shooter Dawnfall, which has a rapist sexbot on the show.
Tropisch said:
This is why Disney getting so much power was a mistake, though I'm not too sure about this one, Disney Plus has Black Rock Shooter Dawnfall, which has a rapist sexbot on the show.

It's disney, what were you expecting?
What debating with DigiCat is like according to APolygons2
That's why I thought a discussion would be pointless. It doesn't feel like a debate. It feels like I'm playing chess and somehow lose to an uno reverse card after loosing all my monopoly money lol
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He doesn't "promise" to censor everything. He simply noticed that dialogue and some things become softer and friendlier over time due to looking at an international audience. And that he considers this evolution. Although I myself am critical of this, it was not some kind of threat or promise.
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If I wanted to watch content made for those with western sensibilities, we have an entire western entertainment industry for that.

I watch anime because it gives me options American entertainment doesn't.
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Concerning if true, but this seems like a vague corporate-speak statement transmitted via a Telephone Game running from Original Interview -> Translation -> Reactionary Clickbait Website (BoundingIntoComics) -> YouTube Alt-Right Outrage Merchants (Chibi Reviews, Yellow-Flash). So forgive me if I seem skeptical about this whole thing. Either way, good thing Disney only licenses an anime or two per season, right?

Besides, given Japan's aging/shrinking population, one can't expect that market to single-handedly sustain the anime industry and subsidize everyone else's boycotts pirated consumption forever.-

Everyone is entitled to their own opinions, but not their own facts.

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I wouldn't take anything Chibi-reviews says seriously tbh.
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And they call the Western countries "free" lol...it totally isnt. We get a complete totalitarian police state right now...
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Revsaysdesu just uploaded a video on the topic.
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KiliianSleipnir said:
where is the actual ARTICLE and some quotes from said D+Jap. Executive?

See my post above #68. I am still trying to finish having redundancy translations so you can cross reference to guess what they meant.
@traed thanks, i'll give it a read when i get some time. update when you get the MTL 'cleaned up' whenever you can. :)
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@KiliianSleipnir
1) ESG - Environmental, Social and Governance. The social part is the biggest problem because it effectively allows prioritizing people by belonging to a social group instead of being competent.

2) Even if this is just a rumor, it's still a really chilling rumor. If anime goes under entertainment is going under too.

3) Blah, blah, money. Doesn't matter now, especially to someone like Disney who had several major box office bombs last year. This proves that it's not about money but a political agenda.

4) Disney actually didn't upload everything from their catalog on Disney +. They still don't want to release Song of the South because it undermines their modern image, and they added warnings to Peter Pan how "it's not suitable for kids" because Native stereotypes.

5) hur CONSOOM. The whole dub butchering era only occured because of America's insane political extremism in the Reagan, Clinton and Bush eras. If people do still care about those dubs, it's because it was all people actually had available, you had no Internet to find raws. Also, speaking of stupid political jokes in translations, easily the biggest offender would be the anti-Trump quip in Hajimete no Gal. Like what do the American presidential elections have to do with a romcom about a guy trying to approach a gyaru?
@TheMechaManiac

oookay
1 social groups? it said social issues... like... Chick-Fil-A not giving same-sex partners equal treatment under employee benefits packages. so investors that don't like that company's policies shouldn't INVEST in that company. or some Battery company actively getting their lithium from mines in countries where child miners are just as common as adult ones... things like that. what do social groups have anything to do with anything?

2 without reading the actual article, the OP YTuber just parroted some other person's ignorant tweet who didn't source the article either. so 1 person starts a 'flamewar' and person 2 takes THAT and fans the flames even higher... with NO rational backing at all. now folks that follow this YTer will SPREAD this disinformation like a virus in a crowded mall.

3 how is it political? which Party? which viewpoint of the people: conservative or liberal or moderate? what agenda? where is Disney's platform, manifesto, core beliefs? seriously, folks SAY "disney has an agenda" when there is no proof given by 'those who say it'. what goal would their political agenda have and what end-game or any maneuvers are they performing in public have been declared? just because a skunk squirts some stench around my house, doesn't make me immediately think, "The skunks have an agenda! They're trying to take over the world! NewWorldOrder of Skunks!"

4 as i said before, i don't use it/watch it/know what's on it. i just know they have a vast 'library' of titles... heck tons upon tons of old live action movies that don't get circulated much anymore. old nature flicks and 'edutainment documentaries' etc. so if the 'new stuff' can't keep people, how is this so called AGENDA working? if it won't keep people tuned in and 'somehow mold their minds to do what disney wants them to'? sounds like a HIGHLY ineffective and FAKE agenda that doesn't exist...

5 uhhh no. haha. did you live back then? :> political extremism? what country are you from? what extremists? how extreme was removing homosexual relationships amongst children, inappropriate child to older young adult affections, and several other iffy points? we're talking EXTREME... if it was that extremist... they wouldn't have bought the title in the FIRST PLACE! remember how Muslims griped oh... a few decades back about that one book by that one guy... the whatchamacallit iahtolla of Iran put out a FATWA calling for the author's DEATH! salman rushdie The Satanic Verses.... THAT is how extremists behave. they don't pay money to BUY something they hate.

source that Trump line would you? Episode and timecode if you don't mind. i've watched HnG more than once in dub and sub and i've got Funimation's DVD of it too. i don't remember a single Trump line in the whole show. even tvtropes.org didn't mention it. also, HnG is a GAG DUB... it was purposefully done like that... otherwise, why would all the actresses for the Gal characters bust out their best Valley Girl for their roles? it wasn't the first time Funimation did that either. Burst Angel... the characters from 'that town' all ALL get Corny Texas Accents from the Funimation crew... because they're based in Texas and the first talent to 'try it' got a good laugh from the technical crew because the Japanese talents all used 'that town' dialect in the J.Dub. so Funi ran with the gag and it just kept on going. High School DxD is a CLASSIC exemplar of a Gag Dub... Issei uses oppai so much that Funi's crew POLLED THEIR ENTIRE STAFF to get as many synonyms/slang for 'boobs' as possible so J.J. Grelle and Scott Freeman didn't have to say 'boobs' every. single. time. that gag was so obvious J.J. AND Jamie Marchi AND Jad Saxton mentioned the poll and the gag in Funi's DVD/BR extras 'interviews with the staff' in their boxed set of Season1.
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1 social groups? it said social issues... like... Chick-Fil-A not giving same-sex partners equal treatment under employee benefits packages. so investors that don't like that company's policies shouldn't INVEST in that company. or some Battery company actively getting their lithium from mines in countries where child miners are just as common as adult ones... things like that. what do social groups have anything to do with anything?

2 without reading the actual article, the OP YTuber just parroted some other person's ignorant tweet who didn't source the article either. so 1 person starts a 'flamewar' and person 2 takes THAT and fans the flames even higher... with NO rational backing at all. now folks that follow this YTer will SPREAD this disinformation like a virus in a crowded mall.

3 how is it political? which Party? which viewpoint of the people: conservative or liberal or moderate? what agenda? where is Disney's platform, manifesto, core beliefs? seriously, folks SAY "disney has an agenda" when there is no proof given by 'those who say it'. what goal would their political agenda have and what end-game or any maneuvers are they performing in public have been declared? just because a skunk squirts some stench around my house, doesn't make me immediately think, "The skunks have an agenda! They're trying to take over the world! NewWorldOrder of Skunks!"

4 as i said before, i don't use it/watch it/know what's on it. i just know they have a vast 'library' of titles... heck tons upon tons of old live action movies that don't get circulated much anymore. old nature flicks and 'edutainment documentaries' etc. so if the 'new stuff' can't keep people, how is this so called AGENDA working? if it won't keep people tuned in and 'somehow mold their minds to do what disney wants them to'? sounds like a HIGHLY ineffective and FAKE agenda that doesn't exist...

5 uhhh no. haha. did you live back then? :> political extremism? what country are you from? what extremists? how extreme was removing homosexual relationships amongst children, inappropriate child to older young adult affections, and several other iffy points? we're talking EXTREME... if it was that extremist... they wouldn't have bought the title in the FIRST PLACE! remember how Muslims griped oh... a few decades back about that one book by that one guy... the whatchamacallit iahtolla of Iran put out a FATWA calling for the author's DEATH! salman rushdie The Satanic Verses.... THAT is how extremists behave. they don't pay money to BUY something they hate.

source that Trump line would you? Episode and timecode if you don't mind. i've watched HnG more than once in dub and sub and i've got Funimation's DVD of it too. i don't remember a single Trump line in the whole show. even tvtropes.org didn't mention it. also, HnG is a GAG DUB... it was purposefully done like that... otherwise, why would all the actresses for the Gal characters bust out their best Valley Girl for their roles? it wasn't the first time Funimation did that either. Burst Angel... the characters from 'that town' all ALL get Corny Texas Accents from the Funimation crew... because they're based in Texas and the first talent to 'try it' got a good laugh from the technical crew because the Japanese talents all used 'that town' dialect in the J.Dub. so Funi ran with the gag and it just kept on going. High School DxD is a CLASSIC exemplar of a Gag Dub... Issei uses oppai so much that Funi's crew POLLED THEIR ENTIRE STAFF to get as many synonyms/slang for 'boobs' as possible so J.J. Grelle and Scott Freeman didn't have to say 'boobs' every. single. time. that gag was so obvious J.J. AND Jamie Marchi AND Jad Saxton mentioned the poll and the gag in Funi's DVD/BR extras 'interviews with the staff' in their boxed set of Season1.
@KiliianSleipnir
1) You miss the point here. What I meant is ESG usually creates employment quotas for certain groupations, like Black people and sexual minorities. This stance has spilled over into media with the whole "representation" stuff and it just makes no sense related to the setting. Japan generally does have a fairly respectful representation when that's the point of the work and I wouldn't like to see that change for America's obsession over race.
2) Creator wants views, big deal. It's really the sheer thought of possibility that makes me very wary.
3) How's it political? Big Money. It's the Big Money. Hedge funds like Blackrock and Renaissance are behind this whole ESG push, and as everybody knows - money talks. The bigwigs clearly have their minds set on something which we can't even comprehend and they're using media corporations as their means to an end.
4) See 3). I'm not giving my money to a company that's been clearly corrupted against the creator's original purpose.
5) "LE GAG DUB LMAO"... never thought I'd see an unironic Jamie Marchi and Monica Rial defender. These women have a history of being nasty pieces of work, lobbing accusations against men they didn't like. That alone is one reason never to support Funimation/Crunchyroll, and their censorship (dubtitles, mangled dubs) makes me even more wary of ever supporting them. They did it once, doesn't mean they won't do it again no matter how much they deny it.
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