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| :/ I feel so bad for Sawa. My heart really goes out to her. I used to talk to my parents about pursuing music in college, and they would never listen to my pleas. I now have enough maturity to truly accept and understand they were doing it out of love for me, but it's extremely painful to see Sawa going through this. I totes can relate to her. Anyway though, great episode! Nice to see Wakana also reconciled with her mother :) We're also getting deeper into Wien's undecided future. (always a character like that) Pretty interesting! |
DesJo said: I wonder if Wien will ever get more airtime than he already has. Too under developed. I really want a Wien centered episode, he's my most favored character on the show which is quite surprising for the little airtime he's had. |
| That fall looked awful. I know Sawa wanted to lose weight, but starving yourself and inducing vomiting is definitely not the way to go. On the lighter side, lol at Wien getting trolled by the girls. Good to see a bit of character development on him as well. Plus yay for Wakana joining the rest in the ending! |
TravSavageAug 12, 2012 9:15 PM
| So its time for Sawa's story for start, hopefully it'll just be as good as wakana's. Did anyone notice that the ending song now has wakana sitting with the choir club now rather than away from them? |
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TravSavage said: Totally not! It may lead to anorexia and other mental problems.That fall looked awful. I know Sawa wanted to lose weight, but starving yourself and inducing vomiting is definitely not the way to go. RECOMMENDATIONS! -Pills and they do work. I took some and I did not have to eat for 5 hours or more. -Watch out for what you consume. Sawa also has problem due to her breasts. They are weight. Konatsu is the most at advantage in this case. |
| Oh no not my Sawa-chan! Pains me to see her like this, but I'm glad we're getting Sawa centered eps. |
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s2012k1993 said: I think she always dreamed for it, as from the flashback on the earlier EP you would notice that she in love with the horse while she was young, so yeah I think she always have that dream even her father against it. The anime then later confirmed that she wanted to be a jokey though (I think last two EP? Can't remember) However, it just recently that she admitted that she want to do a horseback archery.But seriously, did Sawa just realize (during her senior year) to take her passion for Horseback Archery to the next level? The anime showcased Sawa's love for Archery and Horse riding since the beginning of the OP in the first episode as it did with Taichi's love for Badminton. Oh BTW, this reminded me of Brave from Pixar. :P gnodab said: Indeed Tanaka will be the one who help her out! I'm shipping Taichi x Sawa. :PIt seems Konatsu is too confident in her theory that Sawa has guy problems, and even insists her love radar never goes wrong (lol), so she's definitely out. As the preview implies it looks like Tanaka will be helping her out? |
 Toshino Kyoko!!! |
Ajunky said: If you listen to the full ED, her solo is very touching and powerful. I <3 her voice.quadnia said: Not only that, she joined the ED song too... now she starts it. It used to start with a "Konatsu/Sawa" duo.Did anyone notice that the ending song now has wakana sitting with the choir club now rather than away from them? |
Toshino Kyoko!!! |
| :C just when we finally got he one moody girl happy sawa goes and takes her place, she could of went about better ways of losing weight unlike the bad ones she did and i knew she was gonna mess up at the end but not that badly!. |
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sikandsak said: Ajunky said: If you listen to the full ED, her solo is very touching and powerful. I <3 her voice.quadnia said: Not only that, she joined the ED song too... now she starts it. It used to start with a "Konatsu/Sawa" duo.Did anyone notice that the ending song now has wakana sitting with the choir club now rather than away from them? As expected of Takagi Ayahi. Her "opera" style singing. |
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s2012k1993 said: Boy, do these girls become so serious when their arc starts. It's almost as if they are completely different people. On the other hand, Sunohara from Clannad can put the two static boys to shame. But seriously, did Sawa just realize (during her senior year) to take her passion for Horseback Archery to the next level? The anime showcased Sawa's love for Archery and Horse riding since the beginning of the OP in the first episode as it did with Taichi's love for Badminton. Taichi is nationally ranked and actively prepares for Badminton; whereas, Sawa attends Archery practice and has plenty of time to hang out with the Choir club and gallop with her horse. The anime made obvious that Sawa is very laid back and treats everything around her with jubilance. Why the sudden change? Doesn't she realize she can only maintain her current playful lifestyle if she follows her father's advice, becoming a government worker and keeping horse-back riding a hobby? During the previous arc with Wakana, and now with Sawa, both girls tend to pay little to no attention to their parents' advice. Ajunky said: Poor Sawa, but what a bad decision to forcefully lower her weight even by vomiting. Mounted archery isn't like horse racing, while a low weight helps with speed and stability, you need the strength to hold yourself straight on the horse and to use the bow. I was fearing she would fall from the horse and there you go... She was lucky it wasn't fatal. No, no, no, no!!!!!! Horseback Archery has nothing to do with the reason Sawa is trying to lose weight!!!!!!  This envelope is what she is stressing over. It is from, I would guess, the Japanese horse racing organization (which is JRA in reality, not JKR, but we all are familiar with the slight modifications of real world things for anime. (anybody want to go to WcDonalds?) Sawa doesn't need to reduce her weight to do mounted archery. What she really wants to do is race horses professionally. That profession does have strict weight rules. For instance: Weight Limits Depending on the race and track specific guidelines, a jockey can weigh between 108 and 118 pounds, without clothing and equipment, which can add a significant number of pounds. For instance, a jockey riding in the Kentucky Derby cannot exceed 126 pounds in weight, including clothes and equipment. Height Considerations There are no height limits for jockeys. However, jockeys tend to be shorter than normal to meet the weight guidelines. The average height for a jockey is between 4 feet 10 inches and 5 feet 6 inches. The exact rules differ from track to track, at least in the US, but most jockey training programs have stricter rules than most tracks. I expect that is because they anticipate weight gain due to muscle development... In any case, from Sawa's page on MAL: Age: 16 - 17 Class: 3rd Year Height: 167 cm (5'6") Weight: 55 kg 55 kg is approximately 121 lb. That is a perfectly fine weight for a 5' 6" girl. In fact, it may even be a bit on the thin side, especailly when you consider the curvaciousness of the girl in question. However, it is probably around 11 lb too high to qualify for most Jockey apprentice programs, from what I have read. In any case, it is her desire to be a jockey that has her all stressed out. The mounted archery competition is totally seperate. (Not to mention that it is not something she could do professionally!) Anyway, I was pretty surprised that they went as far as to have Sawa displying signs and symptoms of bulemia as a result of her realization that she is too big to be a jockey. I actually mentioned the weight issue in a forum somewhere after the episode where she told Taichi about her dream of becoming a jockey. I really didn't expect that the writers had actually bothered to use that issue in the plot! I am pretty impressed! I hope they can do something that will let the young girls watching this show know how incredibly dangerous it is to do the types of things that Sawa is doing! It can seriously lead to death! Yumekichi11 said: Totally not! It may lead to anorexia and other mental problems. RECOMMENDATIONS! -Pills and they do work. I took some and I did not have to eat for 5 hours or more. -Watch out for what you consume. Sawa also has problem due to her breasts. They are weight. Konatsu is the most at advantage in this case. Sorry, but she is probably much to far from the target weight to feasibly loose enough weight by any of those means. (And losing the breasts isn't really an option.) She is, according to her profile, around 10 to 11 lb too heavy to qualify for most jockey apprenticeship programs and also on the tall side. If she wanted to do Olympic style equestrian competitions, like steeple chase, show jumping, etc... that would be one thing, but since she wants to be a jockey, she is probably just too large of a girl! I think that she is going to come to grips with that in the next episode, and Taichi is going to be there to help her. At least I hope so! :) |
zensunniAug 12, 2012 10:04 PM
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| SAWAAAA ;_____; I like how they made it seem like Sawa had a perfect life in the beginning of the series. I had no idea that she didn't have a strong relationship with her father. Goes to show you can't judge a book by it's cover. |
zensunni said: Ah, I see. I certainly didn't pay enough attention to that.No, no, no, no!!!!!! Horseback Archery has nothing to do with the reason Sawa is trying to lose weight!!!!!! This envelope is what she is stressing over. It is from, I would guess, the Japanese horse racing organization (which is JRA in reality, not JKR, but we all are familiar with the slight modifications of real world things for anime. (anybody want to go to WcDonalds? You're right, she surely just found out about the weight prerequisite for the program (which makes sense, there's no point in training a jockey that won't stand a chance due to their weight) Like Tanaka said (unthoughtful as it was), she's already on the thin side, even a couple Kg less can compromise her health, and that's assuming she doesn't develop a disorder for trying to keep up an unnaturally low weight. She has no choice but to give up on that like her balding father said. ...(damn typos) |
AjunkyAug 13, 2012 2:12 AM
"Against stupidity the gods themselves contend in vain" Friedrich Schiller |
| Omfg, Sawa at the end made me go "WTF WHY" |
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| SAWAAAAAAAA :( I hope the boys don't feel left out because of the girls teaming up against them every time. |
| By the looks of kiryuuu said: DesJo said: I wonder if Wien will ever get more airtime than he already has. Too under developed. I really want a Wien centered episode, he's my most favored character on the show which is quite surprising for the little airtime he's had. Judging by Wakana arc and now a seemingly Sawa arc, it's seems this anime will revolve around smaller arcs dealing with each of the MCs problems while the main story progresses. Konatsu, Tanaka and Wien to go then. |
zensunni said: Didn´t notice that at the verybeginning!! Now I understand the weight thing and somehow her parents worries and after this incident I can almost be sure of what will happen next. LMAO with that terrible trolling the girls are making to poor Wien |
| Yeah :D "I'm okay" -> seriously isn't okay, everyone should understand that. Ending was bad, fall from horseback :/ |
"A half moon, it has a dark half and a bright half, just like me…", Yuno Gasai |
| So this time Sawa is going emo and even worst dieting like crazy someone should punch this girl with Pink Hammer of Reason she seemed to be most normal there (ok other people were Wien and Konatsu so it's not hard). But it's nice to see that Wakana moved forward she really turned into nice character :) |
| Did anyone else see that ending coming? It wasn't hard: Sawa wants to be a horseracer, but she's already about a foot too high for that. She's throwing up everything she eats in order to lose a lot of weight really quickly. And of course, she collapses in a dramatic fashion. A couple of things: 1) her father is right about how unrealistic her career choice is, but he's being a ass about it. That means by the end of the arc, Sawa's passion for riding is gonna somehow convince her father that he's wrong 2) she just fell of a horse face first at full gallop onto gravel. That's like doing a faceplant from a 35mph car. Why isn't she dead or horribly mutilated? 3) the guys are getting the shaft in this series. once the chairman showed up, I'm predicting the final arc will be focused on Vice-Principal. |
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| An episode centering around Sawa.Just what I wanted.. |
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zensunni said: Nice research on those. Yumekichi11 said: Totally not! It may lead to anorexia and other mental problems. RECOMMENDATIONS! -Pills and they do work. I took some and I did not have to eat for 5 hours or more. -Watch out for what you consume. Sawa also has problem due to her breasts. They are weight. Konatsu is the most at advantage in this case. Sorry, but she is probably much to far from the target weight to feasibly loose enough weight by any of those means. (And losing the breasts isn't really an option.) She is, according to her profile, around 10 to 11 lb too heavy to qualify for most jockey apprenticeship programs and also on the tall side. If she wanted to do Olympic style equestrian competitions, like steeple chase, show jumping, etc... that would be one thing, but since she wants to be a jockey, she is probably just too large of a girl! I think that she is going to come to grips with that in the next episode, and Taichi is going to be there to help her. At least I hope so! :) EH? REALLY? Yeah I agree she needs to realize what you mention and perhaps do find a balance between her love for the sports and its realism along with her realism of her current situation. Body and family wise. |
| You don't talk about girls and weight in the same sentence, that's a lesson you should never forget for the rest of your life haha Sawa's dad is a douchebag, I do understand him but he could have handled it better. Konatsu is so wrong with her intuition and Sawa had that accident now, hopefully she didn't receive an injury that prevents her from horse riding. |
zensunni said: Sawa doesn't need to reduce her weight to do mounted archery. What she really wants to do is race horses professionally. That profession does have strict weight rules. zensunni said: You totally nailed it sir! :DI actually mentioned the weight issue in a forum somewhere after the episode where she told Taichi about her dream of becoming a jockey. I really didn't expect that the writers had actually bothered to use that issue in the plot! I am pretty impressed! |
Toshino Kyoko!!! |
| Sawa... To be honest she was always the one I cared about the least of the five (and still is), but still... While it looks like she will be physically okay, I hope she is able to recover mentally. Wonder what was up with that person meeting the headmaster. And what the Deputy Headmistress was going to say about the club. |
| There is no such thing as shit taste. Only idiots who think everyone should have the same taste as they do. |
| Wanted to add on a bit to my last post since I was tired when I posted it. This episode was a bit of a step down from Wakana's arc, but I guess it is sort of hard to top that. Something about the drama didn't sit well with me. I like the girls of this series, however as a girl myself I actually find myself relating to and sympathizing with Wien the most. His loneliness and lack of a place within the group has been kind of depressing, and seeing him acknowledge that in this episode as well as hint to being an orphan or something of the like makes me just want the absolute best for the guy. |
andreyue said: By the looks of kiryuuu said: DesJo said: I wonder if Wien will ever get more airtime than he already has. Too under developed. I really want a Wien centered episode, he's my most favored character on the show which is quite surprising for the little airtime he's had. Judging by Wakana arc and now a seemingly Sawa arc, it's seems this anime will revolve around smaller arcs dealing with each of the MCs problems while the main story progresses. Konatsu, Tanaka and Wien to go then. But wasn't the first arc kind of a Konatsu arc? I view the episodes so far like this: Episode 1: Intro to characters and Konatsu arc. Episode 2: Konatsu arc resolution first hints of Wakana arc. Episode 3: Intro to Taichi Badminton Arc and Wakana arc and new club formation arc. Episode 4: New club formation resolution and development of Wakana arc. Episode 5: Resolution, at least initially, of Taichi Badminton arc, Wakana arc acceleration, introduction of Sawa/Taichi romantic interest, and first hints of Sawa arc. Episode 6: Wakana arc resolution and intro to Sawa arc. Episode 7: Sawa arc acceleration, Wakana's song arc introduction, Principle drama arc introduction, Girls troll Wien mini-arc introduction, and Konatsu vs. Vice Witch II introduction. There are also several hints at a future Wien arc that has to do with the "Yang" person that he writes letters to, but I haven't really figured out when or if poor Wien will get his day in the sun. (Which probably equates to being totally depressed, so perhaps it would be better if he didn't! LOL!) I was also really glad when one of the girls mentioned that Taichi has an athletic scholarship! (Of course, he still has to pass the tests to get into the college. Don't know if that will be an arc.) I assumed that 8th in the nation as a senior would be enough to get him a free ride somewhere, but it is really neat that the writers went to the trouble of adding in that one conversation confirming it! I am really impressed with the attention to detail in the writing of this show! Raphow said: wien has some grammar issues while writing the letter, out of curiosity i stopped the video when the letter was shown and he wrote it in german with some minor mistakes which a native speaker would never make...can't blame the japanese for that, i know they tried their best x) Thanks for the info! Well, that would be appropriate, since Wien is not a native speaker of German. Yes, he lived in Austria for 12 years, but his first 5 years or so were in Japan. One would think that he would have had to learn German when he moved there, since he already would have been a native Japanese speaker. This means he really has no native language at this point, as he used German for most of his life and doesn't have a firm grasp on his native language any more. My wife's cousin adopted a child from Kazakhstan when he was 5 years-old. He is about 13 now and you can still tell that he isn't a native English speaker, but he doesn't really remember Russian that well either from what I can tell. |
zensunniAug 13, 2012 7:45 AM
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| Evil, evil creators.. |
| tall people just tend to be heavier naturally and i guess there's a really strict limit on the weight for jockeys. horses can't run fast with heavy jockeys D: i wonder how are they going to end this arc. will sawa give up being a jockey to pursue music? will her injuries be serious enough to make her father ban her from horse riding? or will she lose enough weight to be accepted for a trial? |
| Malnutrition and sports is a very dangerous combination hope Sawa is alright. Seems there all pretty busy with there future careers but Wakana and Wien still haven't found something they like yet judging from the looks of it. I can understand Sawa's parent's concerns but even if Sawa's sport career where to fail she can always switch career to something else as long as she is under 30 it should not be a problem. Tho i don't think working for the government is a good idea but that's looking from a European point of view. That choir club president was a bitch not just acting that way towards Konatsu but her friends as well and then the way she ordered Tanaka to get out of the way. I was surprised he even listened i would have expected some sort of comment whether she couldn't ask things normally. |
| BTW, no one mention the sudden appearance of Chairman. I wonder what's his plan here, and that he said he has a "plan". It seems like his plan requires the principal to be the principal of the school as well. I smell something fishy here, when he said he '[had] removed some of the roadblock along the way" ... |
Toshino Kyoko!!! |
| Ow hell, that fall at the end didn't really look all that dangerous, but horse was already galloping so that'd normally be something to worry about. Preview shows Sawa being allright though so i'm cool. Her dad is quite an ass about the matter, even if it's a hard way. Sawa is pretty admirable doing whatever she can to achieve her dream, but it seems everyone will have to straighten her up with that emo attitute she's started showing now. |
| レッツゴー ED イケイケゴーゴー |
| Kinda makes me wonder why Sawas' dad is so against the idea of her riding professionally. Plus, I really hope she gets her shit straighten out, because Wakana isn't bitchy anymore, but I don't need you to go all emo now! I guess you already forgotten what Wakana told last epiosde? Also looks like Wiens time in Japan isn't all fun and games like I thought. Maybe some character development is in store for him after Sawa? I sure hope so... |
| Good episode.... Sawa arc seems to be pretty good.... 3.5/5 |
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| If Sawa had to do this to convince her father, I wonder how it would have played out. Why did her mom have to walk in? |
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| I like the squabble between the boys and girls, hehe. Tanaka never stood a chance. Poor Sawa. Her father doesn't want her to ride professionally and now she's feeling down and stops eating. Konatsu is very wrong about the love sickness of course. I think Sawa is trying to get into tryouts or something. What a cliffhanger too! |
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Stark700 said: Shut up, Tanaka. Baka! Insensitive Jackass Jackass Stupid Jackass GG, Tanaka. You never stood a chance. Never. This part was great - as was Wien imagining what the white rhino festival might look like. Also, Sawa falling off the horse was a good bit of drama at the end - normally I think these types of sudden accidents in anime are contrived but this one worked well because of the build up towards it. I guess Sawa needs to reach a compromise with her parents on the jockey issue and realize that trying to rush her dream is simply counterproductive. |
| Ah so they're the playing "sports future occupation leads to parent disagrees" drama card huh~ And I agree, It's kind of unsettling seeing Sawa like this from her usual happy go lucky teasing-Konatsu personality, I mean I'm still trying to get use to Wakana suddenly changing and opening up abit o.o I'm pretty curious about whats happening between the Chairman and principal. It looks like the principal is in somewhat of a tight situation with him. Also it might be Wien's arc next as his problems seem to be beginning to take shape in this ep as well~ |
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