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Mar 29, 2009 9:41 AM
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THIS IS AN ANIME ONLY DISCUSSION POST. DO NOT DISCUSS THE MANGA BEYOND THIS EPISODE.
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New characters or should i say enemies.
Felli is just soo cute
Mar 29, 2009 10:47 AM
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R1seAgainst said:
Felli is just soo cute


Yes she is! <3 She is by far my favorite character of the series! She is just so awesome :D

Mar 29, 2009 12:20 PM
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aaronluis26 said:
R1seAgainst said:
Felli is just soo cute


Yes she is! <3 She is by far my favorite character of the series! She is just so awesome :D


Felli is, without question, the best part of the entire show. This ep lacked Felli.

Felli disapproves of this thread.
Mar 29, 2009 1:15 PM
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Each episode gets more interesting, I think they are doing a good job with the pacing, so far at least. Wonder what Layfon's new weapon is gonna be. And always love jealous Felli lol.
Mar 29, 2009 1:36 PM
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Felli kicking that street light was epic. I watched it, then rewatched it, and then rewatched it again. Awesome character.

Besides that, this show is confusing me incredibly.
1. Engrish part. Why, when, who?
2. That mercenaries. Why Layfon, who is behind it?
3. The place where Layfon lived before. Why did he need money, what for?
4. Queen. Few episodes back, she wanted Layfon back, now she is just interested in his "new" life. Why? More importantly, why is she even interested in him at all?
5. Zuelni (whatever spelling) and that "burning lion"(whatever that thing was). It was shown for a brief moment, and then moved on. Woot? (Big lipped aligator moment?)
6. Nina & Layfon. What is he still doing in 17th platoon. Didn't she tell him she doesn't want him in the team?
7. Their world in general. Why, how, when, anything?

I guess I'll have to read manga (or novel, whatever there is) to get any sense for this show. I am more and more confused with each passing episode.
Mar 29, 2009 2:05 PM
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The new character is interesting. He also kinda looks like Layfon.

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Besides that, this show is confusing me incredibly.
1. Engrish part. Why, when, who?
2. That mercenaries. Why Layfon, who is behind it?
3. The place where Layfon lived before. Why did he need money, what for?
4. Queen. Few episodes back, she wanted Layfon back, now she is just interested in his "new" life. Why? More importantly, why is she even interested in him at all?
5. Zuelni (whatever spelling) and that "burning lion"(whatever that thing was). It was shown for a brief moment, and then moved on. Woot? (Big lipped aligator moment?)
6. Nina & Layfon. What is he still doing in 17th platoon. Didn't she tell him she doesn't want him in the team?
7. Their world in general. Why, how, when, anything?


Most of your questions were answered by the show.
Mar 29, 2009 2:29 PM
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Not so sure that the engrish part is just a tv show.
Mar 29, 2009 2:29 PM
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he was banned because of participating in illegal fights ... he needed money but is that the whole true?? is there something behind it like punishing or sth (guy with hand, may somebody really in explain it ??)

money were needed for orphanage payment - payment was so high he needed "extra" stream of money

well with this banning from team ... woman changed her attitude ;p that's all xd probably because of part with this saving in "dead" city - episode 10?? (sth like that)

BTW this girl who was fighting with spear in 10th division (blond hair) she resemble Teresea of faint smile (Claymore) dosen't she?
Mar 29, 2009 3:28 PM
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Lol, yea..best part of the ep, was with Felli
and the new enemy looks somewhat cool , haha
somewhat of a boring ep, and wish they explain more about the people in the "flashback" or whatever/whoever they are. ~~
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Lack of Felli made me sad. At least they're moving the plot along now although I am confused by Nina's attitude. It's like the episode in the other city never occurred and they're back to their old relationship.
Mar 29, 2009 3:37 PM

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Lol, I love when feli kicked the poll when Fon-Fon went someone with the purple haired person.
Mar 29, 2009 3:39 PM

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Felli kicking things has become just as important as the engrish portion of the episode.


Mar 29, 2009 4:18 PM

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Say... Wouldn't it be interesting if the next inter-city match is between Zuellni and Grendan?...
Mar 29, 2009 5:08 PM

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Not much happened in this episode except for introducing new characters, which I suppose are related to that guy who kidnapped Nina earlier on in the show.

Felli kicking the lamppost was just like Taiga.

Ok episode, I suppose.
Mar 29, 2009 8:32 PM
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Fairly bland episode, nothing really happened. The bipolar-ness of Nina's attitude towards Layfon is starting to get on my nerves though.
Mar 29, 2009 9:30 PM

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Say... Wouldn't it be interesting if the next inter-city match is between Zuellni and Grendan?...


I think that's what their leading up to. A inter-city match with Grendan and then the heavens blade and Layfon's group vs some bug monsters (ie. like the OP shows).

So the new character was trained by Layfon's master too....does that mean he's possibly an orphan too?

@nina4life - I think it's tricky for the queen right now to just have Layfon come back. He was banished from the Regios and it would look bad if the she just ignored her ruling and had him come back like nothing happened. People would start to think that she favors people with power over normal citizens. I think she truly wants him back but cant really do anything because of this fact. I'm sure in the future he will be able to go back but I doubt he would really want too.
Mar 29, 2009 11:34 PM

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The Engrish portion of this episode went Berserk there for a second... I'm still waiting for it to make any sense.

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BTW this girl who was fighting with spear in 10th division (blond hair) she resemble Teresea of faint smile (Claymore) dosen't she?

IMO, Swena (Terre E...) but with curls. And I just noticed that she's is in the image on the anime's front page along with Layfon, Felli, Sharnid, and Nina, which surprised me.
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Mar 30, 2009 3:29 AM

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WinterNightsFall said:
aaronluis26 said:
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Felli is just soo cute


Yes she is! <3 She is by far my favorite character of the series! She is just so awesome :D


Felli is, without question, the best part of the entire show. This ep lacked Felli.

Isn't that why everybody else is watching this show for? Well that's what i'm watching it for. Well at least 80% is for felli. I could just watch her kicking the lampost for hours.
Mar 30, 2009 3:30 AM

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I expected a more linear introduction to Sharnid's past, but this was probably better. I wonder how all the different storylines will come together.

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Felli kicking the lamppost was just like Taiga.
Only Felli does it better

Furthermore, I am of the opinion that Felli is to be deified!
Mar 30, 2009 4:05 AM

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kie_ said:

Most of your questions were answered by the show.


Actually, only 2 of those were answered.
And even if almost all were answered, I still want to see some relationship change between Nina & Layfon because of that other town. Instead, nothing happened there, that "burning lion" or whatever thing wasn't mentioned again, their argument wasn't mentioned again, and not only that, but in the next episode they act like best friends again, with no attitude change at all.
I mean, I don't mind them being friends at all, but have some character consistency for crying out loud. If someone has a fight over moral values with someone else, you don't just forget it. And their difference is HUGE. Why ignore it?
Some things need to be explained, some will be, and all the questions I asked are just questions either partly explained or questions that will be explained in the future, but their relationship should have played bigger role so far, and it didn't play any role whatsoever.
At least if we don't count Nina training like crazy.

This show is 6/10 so far for me, which is kinda sad to me, since it really showed great promise during first few episodes, both in fighting and character development. Keep in mind that from those 6, 2 goes on Felli.

@DeathfireD - yeah, you are probably right. Didn't really see it that way, but that's 99% correct explanation of why. But still my question stands, why is she so fond of Layfon? Something in the past or she just liked him?

P.S. Yep, first time I saw that curly girl I thought of Teresa from Claymore :)

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Episode 12/24.. I hope this means no more "Brave your Truth" crap, my ears bleed every single time I tell you.

Argh! Why can't they just focus on explaining one thing at a time rather than just bringing in more questions that we don't yet have the answer to! bah, I get that we'll find out later, but it just seems like there is far too much going on at the moment.

Layfon needs a katana. not that sorry excuse for an extending dildo.

EDIT: But yeah, what's with Sharnid's eye/Nina's Ear? was that them using their kai (or whatever) to enhance their senses?
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Tarje said:
Episode 12/24.. I hope this means no more "Brave your Truth" crap, my ears bleed every single time I tell you.
Something tells me you haven't heard any Ali Project before..
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Something tells me you haven't heard any Ali Project before..


I've not only heard them before, but my eyes were never the same after trodding upon one of their music videos.
Mar 30, 2009 3:53 PM
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Felli kicking the post was epic. Other than that and an intro to some characters this was an O.K. episode.
Mar 30, 2009 6:56 PM
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Tarje said:
Kvakond said:
Something tells me you haven't heard any Ali Project before..


I've not only heard them before, but my eyes were never the same after trodding upon one of their music videos.


people have different taste. I find Ali Project's music quite catchy and their music videos quite innovative....
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The endless debate between fans and haters. At one point, after spending a lot of time on MAL, you just realize it's totally pointless.
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On MAL, everyone who has used the lame rating system becomes a critic and an intellectual by default, haven't you heard?
Mar 31, 2009 6:25 AM

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he was bannish by queen because he went over line in fight not because of underground fights. it was said that civilians must never find out how dangerus are martilartists.
queen respected him because of his power and skills, but she saw him as child. so may be when he grow up he could return.
when that other girl is like sister to him and she probably love him too, but is to shy to tell.

this part was so so, hope to see that spirit soon and may be new weapon for him.
Mar 31, 2009 6:30 AM

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Lack of Felli made me sad. At least they're moving the plot along now although I am confused by Nina's attitude. It's like the episode in the other city never occurred and they're back to their old relationship.


yes I wanna how Nina turned a full 360 in just 2 episodes as well....i mean the last filler even showed she had a bit of interest for fonfon...either way that woman shits me

as for felli...love the kicking the lamp post bit....that was all gold!!!
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i realy want to know what they will do about his sword/dite
he allready broke up 3 and in all cases because they can't hold up his power or are to fragile.

it look like he still have some unused power because dite can't handle it.
Apr 2, 2009 12:43 AM

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They mentioned heavens-blade so many times. And I may be mistaken, I probably am, but in my opinion, the only weapon capable of withstanding his full power is heavens-blade, almost any other weapon is likely to break.
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heavens-blade probably isn't only one who can hold up but it's one of rare weapons who can hold up.

and it's strange: heavens-blades are realy old and there are only 12 of them, but all other dites that we saw up to now are useless and fragile.
and whay don't they use metal inplace of plastic.
anb he normaly use blue aura since gold one allways broke down dite.

they realy need to give him good sword since all up to now were worthless.
with heavens-blade he cutted high mature beast in half when with that new big sword he could only cut of a wing and that was only first stage mature beast.
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Hronic said:

BTW this girl who was fighting with spear in 10th division (blond hair) she resemble Teresea of faint smile (Claymore) dosen't she?


lol - now that you've mentioned it, she does. They do have some resemblance, but it's not that major.
Damn, I should rewatch Claymore someday soon. That show was awesome.
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heavens-blade probably isn't only one who can hold up but it's one of rare weapons who can hold up.

and it's strange: heavens-blades are realy old and there are only 12 of them, but all other dites that we saw up to now are useless and fragile.
and whay don't they use metal inplace of plastic.
anb he normaly use blue aura since gold one allways broke down dite.


The Heavens Blade Dites are special since they were created to be used by those who have strong and large amount of Kei. The dite that Layfon use now are ordinary dites for normal kei users hence why they break easily since they can't handle Layfon large Kei which is why they break easily while under normal circumstances they don't for normal users.
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This is getting interesting.. It appears that the yakuza is also involved due to some drug trafficking relations..



Perhaps, its time for Layfon to fight at his full strength...
Apr 5, 2009 7:36 AM

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not enough Felli, but at least a lot of Sharnid saved the day <3 He and Felli are my fav characters.
As a few people before me said, this just keeps getting better and better.


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Episode 12/24.. I hope this means no more "Brave your Truth" crap, my ears bleed every single time I tell you.

EDIT: But yeah, what's with Sharnid's eye/Nina's Ear? was that them using their kai (or whatever) to enhance their senses?


i didnt like the song at first, but it grew on me. its nto that bad, really. I heard worse anime OP's.

and yeah, i wonder whats up with their eyes and ears.
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chases after a military artist who was responsible for an Overload drug deal and it turns out that the guy is a yakuza boss


LOL yakuza boss.... lol , i dont think that mercenary gang is something similiar to yakuza
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he was bannish by queen because he went over line in fight not because of underground fights. it was said that civilians must never find out how dangerus are martilartists.
queen respected him because of his power and skills, but she saw him as child. so may be when he grow up he could return.
when that other girl is like sister to him and she probably love him too, but is to shy to tell.

this part was so so, hope to see that spirit soon and may be new weapon for him.


actually it was hinted at that he was covering up something deeper and that fight was just used as an excuse to banish him so whtever it was wouldn't be found it. he briefly mentioned it when they went underground in that abandoned city.
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Good episode. But what happened to felli's broken leg?? It's already healed?! :P
Even though we burn all memories, the ashes will always remain.
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Best part of the episode was Felli kicking the crap out of the lamp post.
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Interesting episode and I expected that Sharnid's past was interesting but surprised enough to wonder why that he quit.
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Felli is just soo cute


Yes she is! <3 She is by far my favorite character of the series! She is just so awesome :D


Felli is, without question, the best part of the entire show. This ep lacked Felli.

jealous felli is jealous, lol and i agree with the above statements.


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aaronluis26 said:
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Felli is just soo cute


Yes she is! &lt;3 She is by far my favorite character of the series! She is just so awesome :D


Felli is, without question, the best part of the entire show. This ep lacked Felli.

Isn't that why everybody else is watching this show for? Well that's what i'm watching it for. Well at least 80% is for felli. I could just watch her kicking the lampost for hours.


Lol i partly agree I probaly would get bored after the first hour of watching her kick the lampost though.
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Good episode, getting interesting! Though I wish there was more Felli in that episode! D:
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I feel so sorry for the post lol.

Looks like the big guy (what's his name again?) is in cahoots with those mercenaries.
"May those who accept their fate be granted happiness."

"May those who defy their fate be granted glory."
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Felli kick!


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Felli, yes, made this episode again.

3.5/5 Solid episode, Layfon's past is interesting as usual, even though that scene has been played so many times. We still don't know what is going ton with that engrish show in the middle of the episode. I know what separates Layfon from other protags, he's got some guts, to injure, maim, and is cunning. That's life for you Nina, it isn't as ideological as you think, killing, eviscerating, and death run rampant in the world. Seriously, they are living in a POST-APOCOLYPTIC WORLD...Fuck Nina and her morals

That queen, I can't read her just yet.
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Felli's kick strikes again.. poor lamp post.
Few interesting new characters made their debut.
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Layfon needs a better sword, even if he can excel in combat even without it.


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