mitch3315 said: blly2ang said: I agree Gundam Age is a failure, people who think it's good because they have no idea how good the old series was. Gundam Age should have do more work in the story line before release it, not just copy other old gundam series. In other hand gundam unicorn is great, i love story. I know how good the old series are, Zeta is one of my favourite anime series, but I still think Age is better than people give it credit for, so your theory is busted. This I seen Zeta, War in the Pocket, Chars Counter Attack, half of 0079, and am eventually going to watch 0083 and F91. I'm not going to watch Unicorn until its complete cause I can barely wait one week for AGE as it is or a month for the new Pandora Hearts chapters. xD So AGE is good, but 00 is still the best for me. ^_^ |
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jpem said: blly2ang said: I agree Gundam Age is a failure, people who think it's good because they have no idea how good the old series was. Gundam Age should have do more work in the story line before release it, not just copy other old gundam series. In other hand gundam unicorn is great, i love story. Criticizing gundam Age for being the same rehashed stuff but then saying Unicorn is great....what? Unicorn is exactly that just with awesome visuals and music. The difference is "Unicorn is a sequel", so the feeling of a "copy" is not as strong as a "new series". |
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angelslayerX said: ...that kids today are unfamiliar with wars and space colonies. eh, what? Childs todays are unfamiliar with war? With call of duty and all those wargames that fly around? This is Japan we are talking about, not any other country. |
| The failure of Gundam Age proves my point, that Bandai and Sunrise are way too obsessed in pleasing their customers for cash instead of making really great stories -- the same mistake they committed -- and is still committing -- in making the SEED series. It turned out that the overly cute cartoonish character designs of Age really foreshadows its failure -- for all its apparent angst, it failed to achieve the desired atmosphere to match up with that of Unicorn or even Yoshiyuki fuckin' Tomino's original series. Yes, the reason TOS turned out so successful is that Tomino insists in being himself always; he even clashed with the Sunrise higher-ups several times! Seriously, Vagan has been reduced to mere typical cartoon villains now. -0- Pardon me for making such a rude comment to SEED and Age, but as a film scoring major student, I really want to speak out against the commercialist TV entertainment industries -- Hollywood and anime alike! |
jmal said: SEED undoubtedly became mega financial success for them, but the fact that they still ain't releasing more of it proving Destiny leave some damage to the franchise, ok maybe not financially because its sell like fries... but when its come to franchise that as big as this, there's something more than making money.. Even now people still talking about Destiny's controversy.raidenwarrior said: I really want to speak out against the commercialist TV entertainment industries -- Hollywood and anime alike! Eh, good luck with that, I guess. I stopped getting worked up about such things when I stopped being a teenager. I'll like the things I like whether they're popular or not. I've loved shows that have completely bombed and have virtually no other fans. I've loved shows that are among the best selling ever made. And of course I love shows all across the spectrum in between. Also, SEED and AGE were "the same mistake"? Heck, Bandai/Sunrise no doubt wish they could make more "mistakes" like SEED, one of the most successful franchises in anime history. Doesn't that illustrate a flaw in your conclusion? If AGE failed because it didn't work hard enough to tell a "really great story", then what explains the absolute enormity of SEED's success, if you feel it suffers from the same problem? |
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| So seeing as how AGE is an enormous flop and ORIGIN will undoubtedly do well. Does this mean we are gonna get a Crossbone Gundam anime? It's like what all the fans have been asking for since Unicorn got announced. |
| It doesn't think, it doesn't feel, it doesn't laugh or cry..... All it does from dusk till dawn is make the soldiers die. |
| When you think about it, AGE's financial failure has a bit of irony to it. The original MSG failed at first because it did not do well with the child demographic (I'm guessing 8-10 yr olds) which was the intended audience for robot anime at the time. Despite being canned it was later revived largely due to interest from the teen and young adult demographic. Now fast forward more than 30 yrs later and we have the failure of AGE (child demographic) and the success of Unicorn (adult demographic). Granted this is a broad comparison but its still a bit ironic looking back at the original MSG series' history. |
| Haven't watched Unicorn Yet.. but AGE isn't awful, for me it's just fast-paced and the supporting characters don't get enough development imo. i think any gundam fan would get over the animation cuz the central conflict is fair but it seems 2 be implemented for a younger audience.. |
| It's simple really. The majority of Gundam Fans are teens to adults. Every time they try and target pre-teens by making a show less serious and more cartoony, the series flops. Look at SD Gundam. AGE would have been far better if there was more substance to the story, had better art, and didn't skip around so much. Right now it's like sparknotes for a Gundam series. |
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theSpecial1 said: Haven't watched Unicorn Yet.. but AGE isn't awful, for me it's just fast-paced and the supporting characters don't get enough development imo. i think any gundam fan would get over the animation cuz the central conflict is fair but it seems 2 be implemented for a younger audience.. Well they are trying to mash 3 generations into 50 episode well seeing how it flopped it could be less than that. There isn't much room to develop supporting characters from the get go. Still highly enjoyable and fast paced for me. Now that I look at the 3rd gen intro they said "70 years have passed" didn't the synopsis say the war was going to span through 100 years? So maybe that is what the probable movie project will be is a continuation that documents the last stretch of the war between the vegan and Federation? |
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| I tried catching up with Age, but it gets somewhat even more uneven, especially Asemu. So he went and became a pirate, looking cool and defiant, but then called daddy to get permission to rescue Kio? WTF? You're a freaking pirate. And what's up with the Vegan.... I mean Vagan. "Oh we were left behind and we just want to go back home." Err... hello? You went and killed people, a lot of people, innocent ones. :roll eyes: The only consistent character is actually Flit Asuno. He hates the Vagans, that's it. A bit shallow, but consistent and well developed compared to everybody else (well, he's there from episode 1). In the end, I see AGE just as another attempt to copy UC (AGE1 = Original Gundam, AGE2 = Zeta, AGE3 = ZZ) on the toy side. Story seems secondary to the need to push toys quickly. |
pika2000 said: In the end, I see AGE just as another attempt to copy UC (AGE1 = Original Gundam, AGE2 = Zeta, AGE3 = ZZ) on the toy side. Story seems secondary to the need to push toys quickly. Gundam has always been one big toy commercial since the Original 0079. Just the other Gundams sold well when it came to the home video releases compared to others. Turn A, Gundam X, and AGE sold terribly which lead to X being canceled early. AGE is great, but from what I heard about A and X they sound like they were great Gundams too just underrated and unappreciated. |
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Roloko said: Gundam has always been one big toy commercial since the Original 0079. Just the other Gundams sold well when it came to the home video releases compared to others. Turn A, Gundam X, and AGE sold terribly which lead to X being canceled early. AGE is great, but from what I heard about A and X they sound like they were great Gundams too just underrated and unappreciated. Selling toys is one thing, but if the story suffers, it's not good. Compared to OO, or even SEED, AGE just feels like a mess. |
Roloko said: pika2000 said: In the end, I see AGE just as another attempt to copy UC (AGE1 = Original Gundam, AGE2 = Zeta, AGE3 = ZZ) on the toy side. Story seems secondary to the need to push toys quickly. Gundam has always been one big toy commercial since the Original 0079. Just the other Gundams sold well when it came to the home video releases compared to others. Turn A, Gundam X, and AGE sold terribly which lead to X being canceled early. AGE is great, but from what I heard about A and X they sound like they were great Gundams too just underrated and unappreciated. I've yet to watch Turn A, since it's pretty hard to find any sources on them, but I have seen Gundam X. I liked it, and it could have became something more towards the end if it had extended to 49 episodes instead of ending it at 39. It sucked that the airing times kept getting pushed around to an unpopular slot of its time... AGE isn't as great as the older Gundam series, but it's still holding out with its interesting plot with rather intriguing characters who do stupid things. lol JeffreyZin said: I've been thinking about this all of the time when I'm reading the news of it. THIS is the reason why I've been taking Gundam shows very seriously after Gundam 00 which it was my first gundam that I ever watched. I mean I remember when some battle scenes copying from 00. That isn't a very good thing to base everything around one series. If you've watched the legacy of the UC timeline, you'd see more about what AGE is actually copying from. |
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| It's too late to reply but... as i someone who watched every single gundam work (every TV series, movie, ova, etc...) i have to say that AGE is really an average gundam series, it's no where to be like those previously works even SEED is better imo, tho i'm not a seed fan, nor UC fan i'm just a HUGE FAN of anything Gundam loved UC works all of them, loved G Gundam and X, Wing was great somehow, Turn A was awesome Seed was ok, destiny could be better but it's average too, 00 was kickass, its movie sucks AGE is just average to me, and as we are in Kio's arc i'm not seeing anything new or special or this series does is taking previous ideas and using them here, it became heavily cliche. |
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JeffreyZin said: ZeraX said: Seed was ok, destiny could be better but it's average too, 00 was kickass, its movie sucks AGE is just average to me, and as we are in Kio's arc i'm not seeing anything new or special or this series does is taking previous ideas and using them here, it became heavily cliche. I agreed from what you said about 00 Movie. it makes me regret to watch that stupid movie (I hate it when those fantards disagreed about it) especially the ending itself. As for AGE, I never thought that it's sorta hit & miss. 00 movie was a let down especially the new characters. -___- |
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| http://www.desmondchieng.com/gundam-age-to-end-at-49-episodes-on-september-23/ So it's going to end soon. Only 4 episodes to cram all remaining plot. Not much time, so they might be rushed. I wonder if this was planned from the beginning or it had something to do with income below expectations. |
Arcling said: http://www.desmondchieng.com/gundam-age-to-end-at-49-episodes-on-september-23/ So it's going to end soon. Only 4 episodes to cram all remaining plot. Not much time, so they might be rushed. I wonder if this was planned from the beginning or it had something to do with income below expectations. I never thought I would say that about a Gundam series, but I'm glad to see this end at last. |
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EspadaCero said: this is just my guess but maybe it failed because little kids thought it sucked even though it was designed for them i bet if they would have gone with a bit more mature design it would have done good ...Did you even watch it? |
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| Haters gonna hate. At least Age isn't as bad as that rubbish called Seed. |
| i'm not a seed fan but Seed IS better than AGE it was more enjoyable and had less problems AGE and Destiny are equal tho both are average, full of bullshit, crappy script writing, just blind development but honeslty, AGE was good until the Kio arc begun, it was the most retarded and stupid arc in all Gundam. |
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| Seed was nothing but recycled animation. It was shit |
| In regards to the 00 ending of the movie, don't get me wrong I thought it sucked dinosaur balls. But, I do suggest to read the mangas version of the end. Much better. At least it didn't leave as bad of an aftertaste. If you don't feel like reading it: |
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FatCobra said: Seed was nothing but recycled animation. It was shit Yep. And also the ending... |
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| I like all Gundam Series the only gundam anything I didn't like at all was the Live action movie G Savior ....Talking about Recycled animation what about Gundam wing....With the same group of Leos or Aries blowing up every other episode |
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