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Feb 1, 2009 5:21 PM

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Wow, this was just incredible, even for Kara no Kyoukai. Everything was so unconventional but so incredibly epic and awesome. Once again, Shiki was badass, but I think this time, all the elements were there. From breathtaking animation and fighting to impressive character development and psychological elements, this definitely was the best in the series so far.
Feb 1, 2009 8:43 PM

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That was a pretty good movie. A few slow parts were a bit boring and opening Shiki's door over and over was annoying, but the rest was amazing. There was plenty of Touko as well which is always good. It still gets nothing more than a 9/10 from me.



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wow this movie is so damn epic. Shiki = awesome as always , and Enjo-san is really really awesome, anyone notice he resembles the main guy in Fate stay night?

Yes, but Enjo is definitely alot cooler. Emiya just makes me laugh.

I actually thought the opposite of you :P
Shirou > Enjou.
Feb 1, 2009 8:43 PM

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Once they redo the rankings this is going to be third, I almost think that this movie has a shot at usurping Gurren Lagann as number one.


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Feb 1, 2009 8:49 PM

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10/10.

By far the best of the series so far. I loved ending as well, the (almost) last scene with Shiki and Tomoe.


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Feb 1, 2009 9:35 PM

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i was seriously rendered speechless after watching... i just couldnt find words to express how epic it was... but i guess theres only two words that describe this level... Type-Moon! 10/10

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Once they redo the rankings this is going to be third, I almost think that this movie has a shot at usurping Gurren Lagann as number one.

i was hoping that that would happen for the longest time but i never actually thought it would be possible... but looking at knk #5's stats now it just might happen.

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Blackhawk5017 said:
dragonshade said:
wow this movie is so damn epic. Shiki = awesome as always , and Enjo-san is really really awesome, anyone notice he resembles the main guy in Fate stay night?

Yes, but Enjo is definitely alot cooler. Emiya just makes me laugh.

I actually thought the opposite of you :P
Shirou > Enjou.

Shirou is definitely > Enjou. Enjou showed his awesomeness in many ways this movie but Shirou's epicness in UBW and HF can only be matched with Shiki's in Tsuki. also, Shirou was made after Enjou so u could say that Shirou is Enjou V2.0 =P
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Feb 1, 2009 10:13 PM

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Ketuekigami said:

Shirou is definitely > Enjou.


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Shirou

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epicness

haha good joke bro
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Feb 1, 2009 10:58 PM

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Neverender said:
Ketuekigami said:

Shirou is definitely > Enjou.


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Shirou

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epicness

haha good joke bro

i understand why u think its a joke... if uv only seen the anime. but if u knew the REAL Emiya Shirou whose origins started in the FSN game u would know that this is no joke and u would agree with me.
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Feb 1, 2009 11:00 PM

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No, I've played UBW. I still think he's a faggot.
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Feb 1, 2009 11:26 PM

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just FANTASTIC !!!
2 hour of full epicness, and confusing screenplay XD
Absolute TEN !!!
Feb 1, 2009 11:49 PM

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Neverender said:
No, I've played UBW. I still think he's a faggot.

some ppl have that opinion (tho i cant understand it), but his personality does almost a complete 180 in HF....
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Feb 2, 2009 12:11 AM

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I must say that this one has totally surpassed my expectations. It's nice and long to make up for the previous movie being quite short. I definitely liked the animation, and putting the whole story together. I must admit I was quite surprised at the sequencing of events, but it was well done.

Now I wonder if the next one will be even better than this...
Feb 2, 2009 12:17 AM

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Yeah i also noticed that Tomoe resembles Emiya. But since Shirou basic trait is his "Seigi No Mikata" ideal i didnt mentioned it :)

Anyways 2 questions.

When and How Araya killed the male Shiki?
And who was that black haired girl that worked with Touko and Kokouto for a few minutes in the movie?
Feb 2, 2009 12:32 AM

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Cloud1234 said:
Yeah i also noticed that Tomoe resembles Emiya. But since Shirou basic trait is his "Seigi No Mikata" ideal i didnt mentioned it :)

Anyways 2 questions.

When and How Araya killed the male Shiki?
And who was that black haired girl that worked with Touko and Kokouto for a few minutes in the movie?

dont know what u mean by the first question, i dont think u heard it write while watching the movie (or i completely missed that). but that girl is Koukto's sister.
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Feb 2, 2009 12:40 AM
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Oh man, this chapter of the series has me totally overwhelmed. I through that the first 4 movies were just decent, shabby, but this one had me rethinking the "Kara no Kyoukai" series. Everything was spectacular; the story, character development, the ties it had with the other movies, awesome action sequences, smooth music, it was all just a feast for the senses (including the brain). This is the kind of movie I've been looking for, a psychological/semi-mindfuck.

I've had second thoughts on whether or not I should archive the "Kara no Kyoukai" series, but this pretty much seals the deal. I hope that the others are just as spectacular.

9/10
Feb 2, 2009 12:43 AM

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Awesome , 10/10 , faved.
Feb 2, 2009 1:19 AM

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Ketuekigami said:
but i guess theres only two words that describe this level... Type-Moon! 10/10


ufotable, you mean.
Feb 2, 2009 2:12 AM

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The sheer epic level of this movie is too much for words. 10/10.

I seriously came when I heard Jouji giving voice to Souren. God, that guy's voice fits every character he's done so far, that I've listened to.
Feb 2, 2009 4:39 AM

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I didn't think much could top the awesomeness of the third movie but damn, this was a masterpiece.




Best part of the movie didn't have anything to do with the plot though.


that part seriously creeped me out a little bit xD

Best movie so far but I still have to realize what I've seen yesterday..

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Feb 2, 2009 7:32 AM

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gosh i love this series so much. 10/10, as always. i really dont have words for it otherwise
Feb 2, 2009 7:33 AM

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Neverender said:
No, I've played UBW. I still think he's a faggot.


hah. yeah, hes retarded, although hes better about realizing when hes doing something stupid in heaven's feel at least.
Feb 2, 2009 7:37 AM
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rofl, rated 2nd on the top anime page in about 3 days after release :p. even deserves rank 1 spot for me
Feb 2, 2009 8:10 AM

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Just to mention i rewatched the movie and i found it MORE enjoyable than the first time.
Wow seriously the timeline in this movie is soooo fucked up that its no wonder i missed so many things the first time i watched(especially since i watched it 3 mins after i woke up with 6 hours sleep). Anyways i will raise me rating to 10/10. <3
And shirou owns in all Routes. Since this isnt the place to talk about him join the FSN club and talk if you want :)
Feb 2, 2009 8:42 AM

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rofl, rated 2nd on the top anime page in about 3 days after release :p. even deserves rank 1 spot for me

lol I bet a lot of people are going to give it a bad rating now just because it's so high
Feb 2, 2009 8:46 AM

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rofl, rated 2nd on the top anime page in about 3 days after release :p. even deserves rank 1 spot for me

lol I bet a lot of people are going to give it a bad rating now just because it's so high


I thought the exact same thing. Oh and btw can some explain me what Mikiya is doing at 1h 7mins and 31s? He shouldnt be there yet...
Feb 2, 2009 8:52 AM

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Cloud1234 said:
Oh and btw can some explain me what Mikiya is doing at 1h 7mins and 31s? He shouldnt be there yet...


I think you should rewatch it again, and try to understand it this time.
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Cloud1234 said:
Oh and btw can some explain me what Mikiya is doing at 1h 7mins and 31s? He shouldnt be there yet...


I think you should rewatch it again, and try to understand it this time.


I think you should stop acting like a jerk like you usually do, and if you cant help or answer politely just shut the fuck up. Dont let your pathetic real life influence your behaviour on inet. I mean its not like by trolling other users you will get a girlfriend or money or w/e your problem is...
Feb 2, 2009 9:58 AM

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9.04 score in total is well-deserved, as well as the top spot. Hope the next two will be close to the level of this one. :)
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hirahira said:
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rofl, rated 2nd on the top anime page in about 3 days after release :p. even deserves rank 1 spot for me

lol I bet a lot of people are going to give it a bad rating now just because it's so high

lol, in before "overrated shit"
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Neverender said:
hirahira said:
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rofl, rated 2nd on the top anime page in about 3 days after release :p. even deserves rank 1 spot for me

lol I bet a lot of people are going to give it a bad rating now just because it's so high

lol, in before "overrated shit"


no kidding. it really deserves the top spot, and i'm dreading everyone who starts to watch because its high ranked, and then dosnt get it and starts bitching...

also, top ranked show on MAL! way to go.
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dumbasatri said:
Neverender said:
hirahira said:
zaj said:
rofl, rated 2nd on the top anime page in about 3 days after release :p. even deserves rank 1 spot for me

lol I bet a lot of people are going to give it a bad rating now just because it's so high

lol, in before "overrated shit"


no kidding. it really deserves the top spot, and i'm dreading everyone who starts to watch because its high ranked, and then dosnt get it and starts bitching...

also, top ranked show on MAL! way to go.
I've been intently watching the rating for this movie this morning, it's about time something dethroned Gurren Lagann. Sure, I liked Gurren Lagann but I'd much rather watch this than the best two hours of TTGL.


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Feb 2, 2009 11:52 AM
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9.04 now lol, highest rated ever on mal?
Feb 2, 2009 11:53 AM

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lol holy shit
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Feb 2, 2009 11:58 AM
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Wow! '___'

I dont feel like saying anything else about this movie.
Feb 2, 2009 12:10 PM
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Wow, next time I knew, its already 9.04/10.. XD lol
Pwned I guess. lol 10/10 from me as well.
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Cloud1234 said:
Sobzob said:
Cloud1234 said:
Oh and btw can some explain me what Mikiya is doing at 1h 7mins and 31s? He shouldnt be there yet...


I think you should rewatch it again, and try to understand it this time.


I think you should stop acting like a jerk like you usually do, and if you cant help or answer politely just shut the fuck up. Dont let your pathetic real life influence your behaviour on inet. I mean its not like by trolling other users you will get a girlfriend or money or w/e your problem is...


Hahaha.
Like I said, try rewatching it and take note on that the scenes jump back and forth. Happy now?
I just can't help it when it comes to you, lol.
Feb 2, 2009 1:43 PM

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Masterpiece. Best movie so far. Ultimate mix of EPIC. But it was a bit hard to understand, due to these repetitions.

10/10 obviously, because you can't give a higher note^^
Feb 2, 2009 2:14 PM

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9.05 XD

Now we've just to wait for the swarm of people who watch it solely because it's ranked first on this site (probably even without watching any prequels) and dragging the average score down because of reasons like "Omfg, I didn't understand anything, this movie is teh suck lolol" -__-
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^ Yup, that will happen for sure.
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Rewatching really adds up to the joy, and understanding too.

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Feb 2, 2009 5:45 PM

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what can i say....outstanding movie. 10/10

Its nice to see that finally ttgl is out of the 1st place. xD
Feb 2, 2009 9:16 PM

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I have no words... to describe... the masterpiece ufotable just did.

I'm just happy I could see it. Perfection in animation had a name... and it was called Kara no Kyoukai.

Face it, Simon. You did it better with Enjou.
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Feb 2, 2009 11:33 PM

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Enjou you are the best man ever. Ever.
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the best after all, even I didn't watch it yet..
the first place, awesome~!!
Feb 3, 2009 1:41 AM

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Amazing and best movie even I've seen for a while. This movie is flawless masterpiece, indeed. The fight scenes and animation were breathtaking and great, and it has a great music so far. I loved how the movie kept messing with my mind the entire time, yet all the pieces fit together perfectly at the end. Touko is an awesome character, and I loved how when the real Touko showed up with more cocky attitude. The direction was very superb, and the idea of switching scenes around for parts was stunning. Overall, I totally loved it! Blushing Shiki is so cute! <3 10/10

Kara no Kyoukai 5: Mujun Rasen finally have the first rank at MAL. Awesome!
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It was a good film, but I'm really not seeing how it managed to get in 1st place. It wasn't THAT good.
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It was a good film, but I'm really not seeing how it managed to get in 1st place. It wasn't THAT good.

http://myanimelist.net/character/16743/Tomoe_Enjoh
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Scud said:
It was a good film, but I'm really not seeing how it managed to get in 1st place. It wasn't THAT good.

http://myanimelist.net/character/16743/Tomoe_Enjoh

wrong. the answer is the scene after the credits
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Probably the best KnK so far. Solid 6/10.

There were some problems, though. I don't like the way Shiki helped the Emiya-clone at the beginning of the movie. Felt totally out of character from what we've seen in the past few movies. She definitely did not seem like the type to hunt down a guy who dropped his key, rescue him from thugs, and then allow him to stay in her room for a week. The unexplained change in her character bothers me.

The fight between Touko and Araya was really cool, but it got silly when they both revived themselves.

"Aha! You thought you killed my puppet, but it was actually still alive. Now you lose!"

"Or so you thought! That was actually a puppet of me. I'm actually a part of this building, so I can't be killed anyway. Now you lose!"

"Guess again! That was actually my puppet, controlling a puppet. In fact, I might also be a puppet right now! There's no way to know."

Ridiculous. I can't feel any sense of danger for the rest of the series now because Touko can create infinite puppets for herself to re-activate once she dies. Hell, she can probably do the same for Shiki and Kokuto, effectively making all main characters invincible. Not cool at all.

The explanation for how Shiki escaped the "enclosed space" was also pretty vague. Textbook example of a deus ex machina. Somehow, she managed to "cut" the building? And she did this because Araya decided to use his magic powers to entrap her instead of going for a normal convention like... rope, a gag, and maybe a cage? At least it's better than the time she somehow "killed" appendicitis with her knife.

Needless to say, I definitely wouldn't rank this as the greatest anime of all time. Aside from the music and the animation, the plot and characters are no better than half the supernatural/action genre - Ga-rei zero, Kurokami, Shikabane Hime, Shakugan no Shana, Fate/Stay Night, Le Chevalier d'Eon, or any of a dozen others I could name. Nonetheless, it was enjoyable.
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a few of the things that bothered you seems to me like you were just thinking too much.
One: the fight between Touko and Araya wasnt really that Ridiculous. it is true that Touka can have a sort of partial immortality due to her puppets but even with that she is was no match for Araya. i guess you only think about it if youve experienced other Type-Moon works but battles are like that. the characters always have obscene powers that make them invincible or the ability to kill in one shot, but that doesnt mean they cant die and it certainly doesnt make them have any less of a sense of danger. And Araya never had to revive himself. the building was his body so without some great attack that damages the building Touka wasnt able to hurt him.

Also Touka only has 1 spare body, its not as if she can make new ones ever day, it takes work that takes years maybe even centuries to accomplish that level of magic. She wouldnt be able to creat infinite bodys for anyone and even if she could she wouldnt be able to replicate Shikis ability since it is comes from Shikis brain.

two: The reason Shiki escaped was pretty obvious and didnt need much explanation if you remember what her power is. she can destroy any magic barrier so of course it they didnt need to explain what happened. that complaint really doesnt have much basis if you remember what her power actually does. And again, she can "somehow "killed" appendicitis with her knife" because of her power, if you forgot what it is look into it just a little bit and it will become obvious.

Though the change in Shikis character is completely understandable and i can see why you would think that way. but its not something im gonna question since i havnt read the novel yet because it appears they did leave out a few parts that made a difference in explaining certain things.

But overall im glad you enjoyed it.
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Also Touka only has 1 spare body, its not as if she can make new ones ever day, it takes work that takes years maybe even centuries to accomplish that level of magic. She wouldnt be able to creat infinite bodys for anyone and even if she could she wouldnt be able to replicate Shikis ability since it is comes from Shikis brain.

How do we know that? All she has to do is make one clone of herself. That clone can make another clone of herself. And that clone can make another clone, forever and ever.

I mean, once they explain why she can't do that, I'll have no problem buying your argument, but in the meantime, Touko is essentially invincible.

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The reason Shiki escaped was pretty obvious and didnt need much explanation if you remember what her power is. she can destroy any magic barrier so of course it they didnt need to explain what happened.

Right, but that doesn't explain why Araya didn't just.... tie her up. Even if she can figure out how to "kill" the ropes, I'd like to see how she would do it without being able to move. Either Araya is extremely stupid, or Shiki's power is even more hax than it seems.

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And again, she can "somehow "killed" appendicitis with her knife" because of her power, if you forgot what it is look into it just a little bit and it will become obvious.

Appendicitis is an inflammation. What did she kill? The fact that the appendix was inflamed? What she did was roughly equivalent to somehow killing a bruise (by stabbing it). It's completely stupid.
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