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Jul 31, 2008 6:19 AM
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If it was me, I might of chosen to stay on the ship with Charles and Ray :P
Aug 25, 2008 3:06 AM
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This was a pretty sad episode! On many fronts. This series was never an overly emotional one for me but if it keeps escalating at this rate I'll be crying by the finale :P
Oct 22, 2008 12:24 PM
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Wow, an episode ago i was feeling sorry for renton because he's so happy but they're being fake friends, but now that I realised they actually cared about him I feel even worse.
Poor Renton.
Nov 17, 2008 3:28 PM
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so sad :O he shoulda stayed with them since they actually cared about him
Dec 17, 2008 5:03 AM
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so sad :O he shoulda stayed with them since they actually cared about him

agreed
May 4, 2009 10:38 AM
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Aww. That was sad.
Jun 16, 2009 2:49 AM
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Wow, I was sure Charles would flip out once he discovered Renton was a member of Gekk-Go. Both Charles and Ray are really cool characters so I hope they don't turn into the enemies of the Gekko-Go. I really respect them for letting Renton make the choice to leave.


Jun 24, 2009 12:57 PM
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Anyone thought that... um... When Charles hugged Renton, he said, this is the way a father greet his son. And asked him if he smelled bad, something hit me. When he was talking about his scent, immediately a familiar scent came right into my nose. I don't know why, and where that smell came from but I just know it's a nice smell... maybe it's Charles's smell.
Jul 15, 2009 9:28 AM
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Very sad and emotional episode, I hope Charles and Ray don't die when they fight against the Gekk-go.
Sep 3, 2009 5:34 PM

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God... This episode was so... God.
All I can say is I am tearing right now and I was on the verge of crying several times during this episode.

I love Ray and Charles now, really.
Nov 24, 2009 7:05 AM
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aero said:
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If it was me, I might of chosen to stay on the ship with Charles and Ray :P


I agree renton is moron for leaving..
Jan 29, 2010 1:31 PM
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belldandy2009 said:
aero said:
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If it was me, I might of chosen to stay on the ship with Charles and Ray :P


I agree renton is moron for leaving..
Yup. Too true. They honestly cared about him, and even told him that they would love to have him stay, but they would still respect him if he choose to go back to Gekko State. Man he totally should have stayed with them, instead of going back to Geeko where he wouldn't be loved, understood, and treated respectfully.
Apr 27, 2010 9:46 AM

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Is it for me only or the Charles and Ray are true Renton's parents?
Jul 3, 2010 1:27 AM

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I feel sorry for Ray. I understand why you guys would want Renton to stay...but what about Eureka?
Jul 9, 2010 9:31 AM

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Renton had to choose
Stay with the a potential family?
or
Go to a potential soul-mate?
Sep 11, 2010 4:21 PM
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Sad episode is sad
Oct 5, 2010 7:28 AM
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Why can't he just bring Eureka too the new family???????? God all they had to do was kill off Holland. Japanese writers are fucking funny they kill heroes like Kamina, but keep douchebags like Holland alive.
Nov 29, 2010 10:57 PM

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Wow. Did I say last episode was a heartstring-tugger? This one is even more so.

Particularly poignant was Charles giving Renton the strategy data and saying, do whatever you want. I thought Renton was just being used, but it's clear that Charles and Ray actually grew to care for and love Renton, and at least they can be satisfied with him following his dreams, to save and to protect people, rather than to just kill them.

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Is it for me only or the Charles and Ray are true Renton's parents?


No. But they would love to be his foster parents.
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Dec 4, 2010 10:56 PM

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belldandy2009 said:
aero said:
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If it was me, I might of chosen to stay on the ship with Charles and Ray :P


I agree renton is moron for leaving..

That may be true, because he seemed really happy on the ship with Ray & Charles, and they were really cool, but his heart spoke to him and I guess he's on his way back to the Gekko State.
By the way, the last 10 seconds of the episode was the first time I've seen Holland so caring about Renton. (Even if it was for Eureka)
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Jun 5, 2011 6:48 AM

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Really an emotional episode.. i think he should have said "Arigatou Gozaimus.. Papa.. Mama.." That would have made it much more emotional ryt..
Jul 24, 2011 5:49 PM
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Wow, this episode was just great, just like the last few episodes.
Ray and Charles are the best characters. I really hope nothing bad happens to them. Would like them to be with Renton later in the show or at the end, but I think that will not happen.
Aug 1, 2011 5:07 AM

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Great episode, most of you say 'he should stay with Charles and Ray' but Renton clearly says at the end that he wants to see Eureka and that's where his heart lies.

I'm afraid later on that Renton is going to have to fight against Charles :(

Aug 22, 2011 5:46 AM
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Wow. Tough choice.

I'm so happy to see that Charles and Ran actually cared for him. Charles is a 'real man' unlike Holland. I really do hope Charles and Ray survive, because they're really nice characters. Typically japanese to have protagonists who are douchebags and antagonists who are likeable.
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Sep 21, 2011 3:18 PM

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I would of stayed with them. Renton still has time to grow and find other bitches and whores while living with the wealth of his 'parents'. Eureka can go to hell
Feb 10, 2012 8:33 AM
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Ray and Charles are sooooooo nice *-*
Feb 29, 2012 10:01 PM

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It's nice to know that they actually care about him.
Apr 6, 2012 1:36 PM

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Sorry for doubting you, Ray and Charles ;_;
Apr 24, 2012 11:48 PM

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It's nice that they care about Renton--and I believe they really do--but they are still going to participate in the attack on the Gekko because they're mercenaries and that is what mercenaries do. We still don't have a back story on Charles and Ray who seem to be connected with Holland some way, and we don't have the complete backstory on Holland or Eureka either.
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Apr 30, 2012 7:57 PM
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Death flags everywhere.
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May 29, 2012 10:03 PM

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At least he finally manned up and made a decision about something..

on a side note... THIS IS HOW YOUR DAD SMELLS!
Jun 4, 2012 4:58 PM

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I'm surprised to see that Holland is voting here, too, there is no way someone else would hate this episode.
Jul 27, 2012 3:51 PM

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He should have stayed on the ship. Fuck Eureka.
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Sep 24, 2012 7:32 PM

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AAAAH ;_;
Fuck.
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Nov 20, 2012 5:00 PM

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He should have stayed on the ship. Fuck Eureka.


Agreed. lol


Totally

Ray and Charles are great parents they even cared for him after he jumped ship. -__-
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Nov 21, 2012 3:02 PM

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I guess I'm the only one who was continually creeped out by Charles and Ray? It looks like they were sincere in the end...

But that whole smell thing? Awwwwkward.
Nov 24, 2012 7:16 PM

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aero said:
THIS IS AN ANIME ONLY DISCUSSION POST. DO NOT DISCUSS THE MANGA BEYOND THIS EPISODE.
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If it was me, I might of chosen to stay on the ship with Charles and Ray :P


Heck yea what the hell I would have stayed with people that poured their heart and soul just to care for me and never hit me etc dumb choice then he should have piloted another LFO since they work with the military it would be easy for them to get another one for him I really hate the Gekko crew they suck

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Why can't he just bring Eureka too the new family???????? God all they had to do was kill off Holland. Japanese writers are fucking funny they kill heroes like Kamina, but keep douchebags like Holland alive.


Exactly wth

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He should have stayed on the ship. Fuck Eureka.

Fuck the whole Gekko crew
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Dec 1, 2012 2:17 PM

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Manly tears were shed.
Jan 11, 2013 11:05 PM

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oh that is such bullshit....
Jan 22, 2013 8:26 PM

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why renton why you should of stayed their your parents they were more family than g could ever be



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Roloko said:
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opiumJ said:
He should have stayed on the ship. Fuck Eureka.


Agreed. lol


Totally

Ray and Charles are great parents they even cared for him after he jumped ship. -__-


I agree. Seriously. After Eureka practically treated him like SHIT. He now had the chance to have people who actually cared about him. oh well, each to their own I guess.
Mar 6, 2013 8:58 PM

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I think he made the right decision
Apr 10, 2013 9:25 AM
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Toxic106 said:
Anyone thought that... um... When Charles hugged Renton, he said, this is the way a father greet his son. And asked him if he smelled bad, something hit me. When he was talking about his scent, immediately a familiar scent came right into my nose. I don't know why, and where that smell came from but I just know it's a nice smell... maybe it's Charles's smell.

I have a feeling it was your own dad's smell ;)

It's official, Charles and Ray are my favourite characters of the show! There is obviously only 1 reason why Renton left. Eureka. His feelings for her won't dissapear even if he gains new feelings for Charles and Ray. And because his feelings for his love are stronger than those for his new found parents he decided to leave.
And this is the way it should be however sad it is. Because no matter how good those two are for him, I just can't see him being on the ship that is taking down 'his' Eureka.
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Why can't he just bring Eureka too the new family???????? God all they had to do was kill off Holland. Japanese writers are fucking funny they kill heroes like Kamina, but keep douchebags like Holland alive.

The military probably sees Eureka as something like their 'property'. And they want this property returned along with the Nirvash. So that was never an option to begin with.
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probably my favorite episode so far. i honestly havent been too impressed, but this brought up a nice way for a climax. i enjoyed all the emotion.
Jun 15, 2013 2:55 AM

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So the truth finally came out. Well, I'm surprised they gave Renton the option of leaving and possibly informing the Gekko State.

Jul 9, 2013 12:40 PM

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Parents of the Year. He shouldn't have left. Eureka can go die.
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Jul 14, 2013 3:04 PM

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Finally, first enjoyable episode so far...and finally, something in this anime that wasn't obvious that was gonna happen, was totally sure they would screw Renton over and use him to get to the Gekko State...now I'm enjoying this.


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Jul 21, 2013 2:53 PM

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Dam, dem feels ;_;

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Hmm??? What's the connection between Charles and Ray and Renton's father? Since Ray dropped the pie she made when she overheard that Renton's father is Adroc. But anyways, that was a sad episode :( It was sadder when I saw that Ray had a cup that said Renton on it. They really were fond of him, and thought of him as their son even though it wasn't for that long.

And wow I can't believe how much Eureka wants to see Renton ._. but that pose Holland made was pretty cool. Good thing he (hopefully) realized that he needs to get over how Eureka chose Renton and not him. Good going Talho!
Aug 2, 2013 4:23 PM

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Ray and Charles are really the best parents ever ç_ç
Sep 18, 2013 12:28 AM
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I don't wanna complain about Renton's decision because are too many posts about that.
Renton made another woman cry, that's the only thing he is good at.
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