Tiago97 said: So you watch all of your anime dubbed? Almost all of it yes. Don't get me wrong, I've heard some good Japanese VA's, but most of them have made me cringe (screechy female voices in particular). |
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Treekodar said: Tiago97 said: So you watch all of your anime dubbed? Almost all of it yes. Don't get me wrong, I've heard some good Japanese VA's, but most of them have made me cringe (screechy female voices in particular). Then you're missing out. I'm not saying dubs are bad, in fact I've barely watched an English one, but tons of good anime don't get dubbed. |
| I've run in to a select few dubs that I actually enjoyed. For the most part I find that the sub is almost always better. I have to agree with Tiago in saying that you are missing out, but obviously this is completely up to you and your opinion. Also there are a lot of quality Japanese female voice actors. Although yes, some of them can be annoying. I would still give it another chance :) |
truesoul said: them anoying girls with high pitched voices that say "desu" after every sentance for example that witch girl from rosario vampire. i wanted to kill her. Isn't that the point? The writers wanted to make an annoying character with a speech pattern that would standout. Being high-pitched is simply the kind of tone a person would expect from a teenage girl. So getting annoyed at a character that is supposed to be come off as annoying is a complement to the writer that made the character. There's going to be a lot more annoying characters because a cast of super-mature characters doesn't leave much room for drama or development. |
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Treekodar said: Tiago97 said: So you watch all of your anime dubbed? Almost all of it yes. Don't get me wrong, I've heard some good Japanese VA's, but most of them have made me cringe (screechy female voices in particular). I think the opposite actually, I can't stand the English voice actors and love many of the Japanese voice actors especially the female ones. I personally think that the Japanese language is very elegant and nice to listen to. I guess its just a matter of taste XD. |
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| When a show completely starts to rely on fan service and cliches. |
| herp derp cozen one iz a tenager. i hate that crap. Fan service as well. l if i wanted to fap I'd watch hentai. |
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| Something I think I'm in the minority about, but the flip flops between drama and over the top comedy. Unless humor is the main focal point, where the series as a whole isn't supposed to be taken seriously, comic relief shouldn't be based on how stupid the characters can look and act. |
Accolades said: traed said: This.Am I the only one with no major complaints? Why are some people complaining about normal cliches? Cliches happen in real life. If they were devoid in every anime it wouldnt be very convincing. http://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/pmwiki.php/Main/TropesAreTools?from=Main.TropesAreNotBad Tropes =/= cliches. TV Tropes even makes that clear. |
| It bugs me how in anime, a freakin 5 year olds are way more mature and understanding than they should be. It also bothers me how freakin trusting they are. |
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| weak females make me want to headdesk. Especially when they have the ability to help and don't. Beach episodes. The- walking-in-on-someone-undressing cliche..... |
Beedlebud said: Beach episodes. Aside from the fact that they usually allow fanservice of the female cast, what's wrong with properly done beach episodes? I find them to be good opportunities to develop character relationships, especially a bigger group. Maybe you've just been watching some s**tty beach episodes lol |
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| I must be the only person on this site that enjoys both subs and dubs equally. Dubs are often over-the-top but then again, so is anime. And so are the Japanese dubs if you actually pay attention. My preference sub or dub usually depends on whichever one I saw first. As for myself, misunderstandings annoy me in romantic comedies. For example, if a girl walks in on a guy in embarrassing situation with another girl, and runs away in tears. If she had let him explain for five seconds, she wouldn't have had to angst for an episode. Also, endings often annoy the hell out of me. A few examples... Gungrave Honey and Clover Gankutsuou The Girl Who Leapt Through Time |
| Bleach should of ended a long time ago .-. ANYWAYS, when Ecchi and Fanservice is borderline hentai. Uhh, seriously? If I wanted to see tits every 5 seconds, I think I would watch hentai. :| And when anime tries to be funny, when its not D: |
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| that dumb bitch that repeats her self on Toaru no Index, annoys that fuck out of me, and don't get me started on Orihime. |
| "You r weak I am stronk" "I have friends!" "What r friends?" "Friends r power ups!" -Defeats ronery villain- |
| I guess when, people scream and close their eyes when attacking haha. |
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Aside from the fact that they usually allow fanservice of the female cast, what's wrong with properly done beach episodes? I find them to be good opportunities to develop character relationships, especially a bigger group. Maybe you've just been watching some s**tty beach episodes lol Perhaps, but they're almost always filler....cliche...and there is usually no logical reason for them. It's just "oh hey we decided to go to the beach." What. |
Hegemony said: Screaming louder to exert more powerrrrrrrrrrrrrrr. That shits only acceptable in DBZ, kids I thought various physiologists and sport sciences prove that to be true? That teaches me. Don't listen to people with a doctorate, instead come to MAL for the truth about life. |
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| The main character being a loser who doesn't have the guts to pull the trigger of a gun, or hurt kill people in general. |
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Eirikz said: The main character being a loser who doesn't have the guts to pull the trigger of a gun, or hurt kill people in general. I wouldn't say reluctance to kill is always an automatic red flag, but I can think of several protagonists that profess pacifism to the point of infuriating. (I'm looking at you Vash) |
| Willhelmina from Shakugan no Shana ending every one of her sentences with "de-arimasu". It was never funny and it never will be. |
| I figured as much. Yelling is okay so long as anime doesn't do it. We can't have anime replicating stuff people really do or think. |
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Kazeshini said: that dumb bitch that repeats her self on Toaru no Index, annoys that fuck out of me, and don't get me started on Orihime. KUROSAKI-KUN!.....KUROSAKI-KUN!!!! KURRRRROOOOOSAKKKKIIII-KUNNNN!!!!!~~~~ |
recheebts said: Willhelmina from Shakugan no Shana ending every one of her sentences with "de-arimasu". It was never funny and it never will be. That annoyed me too. But it was never supposed to be funny. It was supposed to be unique to her character, just like how Naruto says "dattebayo" a lot. |
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gosimmons said: Yeah some instances its normal and is more gutsy not to kill but others its naive.Eirikz said: The main character being a loser who doesn't have the guts to pull the trigger of a gun, or hurt kill people in general. I wouldn't say reluctance to kill is always an automatic red flag, but I can think of several protagonists that profess pacifism to the point of infuriating. (I'm looking at you Vash) |
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Tundrea28 said: I absolutely hate when animes give you an interesting/ decent storyline then destroy it with crappy fanservice. Best example to put here is High School of the Dead, it could have been a really unique and cool horror about zombies but no, they most likely said who cares about actual storyline we just want more people to buy our products. =.= HoTD wouldn't have been made if the manga-ka couldn't express his love for both gore and girls. I am sure one day you'll create a perfect story for yourself, until then other people will make what they want how they want. |
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Anime_Name said: HoTD wouldn't have been made if the manga-ka couldn't express his love for both gore and girls. I am sure one day you'll create a perfect story for yourself, until then other people will make what they want how they want. The entire point of this thread is giving our opinion on commonly used themes we dislike... Besides, just because the author enjoys certain elements in a story doesn't justify combining them poorly. I can enjoy comedy and gritty realism; doesn't mean they should be crammed together. |
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gosimmons said: Anime_Name said: HoTD wouldn't have been made if the manga-ka couldn't express his love for both gore and girls. I am sure one day you'll create a perfect story for yourself, until then other people will make what they want how they want. The entire point of this thread is giving our opinion on commonly used themes we dislike... Besides, just because the author enjoys certain elements in a story doesn't justify combining them poorly. I can enjoy comedy and gritty realism; doesn't mean they should be crammed together. lol you state that like it's a fact. You say it was poorly done and I say it was good. Also I am not questioning or disapproving of his opinion. I am just mentioning that his beloved HoTD would not exist if not for both the zombies and sexual aspects. But here's the thing, the author wasn't the first to combine gore and sex. Gore and sex have been quite the combo in horror films for a long, long time. Look up grindhouse and exploitation films. It's nice how anime gets subjected to new entertainment rules. |
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Anime_Name said: lol you state that like it's a fact. You say it was poorly done and I say it was good. Also I am not questioning or disapproving of his opinion. I am just mentioning that his beloved HoTD would not exist if not for both the zombies and sexual aspects. But here's the thing, the author wasn't the first to combine gore and sex. Gore and sex have been quite the combo in horror films for a long, long time. Look up grindhouse and exploitation films. It's nice how anime gets subjected to new entertainment rules. And you state it as if a mature series can't be made without blatant overuse of fanservice. Besides, since when is saying, "Make your own series instead of critiquing this one," accepting another's opinion? If you can actually take a series with scenes like this seriously, http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eRTugqDo1WM fine, but don't expect everyone else to as well. Also, never stated that it was the first thing to combine sex and violence. Never praised the example films your giving. Again, just because other films or series have already done it doesn't automatically make it good. |
gosimmonsMar 5, 2012 9:19 AM
| What fantastic originally listed was mostly spot on. Too many cliches is the problem. Nearly every OP has to involve someone running. Others things that annoy me are A cutesy girl tilting her head to the side, like a puppy, giving off a smile and closing her eyes, its not cute if anyone did that in real life id laugh at them. A girl leaning forward, smiling, closing one eye and then throwing a peace sign. Little whiny kids who eventually will have "depth" and say things like "Thats what being a man is all about!" "because im a man!" when theyre 4 year old... Good guys who'll come out with "because theyre my friends!" only for the bad guy to *gasp* like he's taken aback by it. How in fights more than half the time the fight is spent on talking, bad guys will explain exactly how their power works because they love to give the good guys help like that. The fans annoy me, guys and girls who find poorly animated characters to be hot when they usually all look the same. When theres overly dramatic moments in episodes then the people in the comments will say "Who cried when..." and "Omg that character is such a jerk I hate him" as if the thing was real. |
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| I dont really like Sci-fi type Anime or super serious stuff, stuff that is too over the top with fan service, and Im also picky about the style the characters are drawn in... hmm guess thats why Ive not watched much Anime, Im too picky! >.< |
| Even as a kid, I didn't like the anime style of slapstick where the face gets all big, the bandages appear out of nowhere, and such (unless Ken Akamatsu does it). I also really hate those characters that claim people don't understand them, but they won't let others try to understand them. |
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gosimmons said: And you state it as if a mature series can't be made without blatant overuse of fanservice. Nope, not acting that way at all. I said the series was good, as is ,and not that it was a good, mature series that didn't have fanservice. Ya see I am owning up to what the series is and was intended to be instead of whining that some mean guy in Japan made a series that didn't fit my taste. I think good series can exist with a variety of maturity and fanservice levels. For instance Goldenboy, anime and manga, is one of the best ecchi comedy series around. It is full of fanservice, absurd humor, and unabashed silliness. I would suggest to stop adding in more debatable terms and hyperbole on top of your existing subjectivity. Also, never stated that it was the first thing to combine sex and violence. What you said was the combination that HoTD went for was a mixture that should never be attempted because it just won't be good, period. I never said shit about that combination automatically being good because others did it before. I was just countering your claim that the combination is automatically bad. Besides, since when is saying, "Make your own series instead of critiquing this one," accepting another's opinion? Who the hell said anything about accepting his opinion? I said am not questioning him about his opinion and I am not disapproving of him posting his thoughts. I will disagree with opinions that are contrary to facts or in opposition to my personal opinion. |
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| As others have mentioned- I feel like anime, more than most mediums, tends to be very cliche or feel like a copy of another series. I also question the amount of romantacized lolicon, incest, teacher-student relationships, and really, really immature humor present in many anime, and I'm not even referring to hentai here. This is just in regular, normal anime. I know Japan is a sexually repressed country but... Come ON. No, a teacher dating his 4th grade student is NOT CUTE OR SWEET OR OKAY AT ALL (Lookin' at you, CLAMP!) |
I also question the amount of romantacized lolicon, incest, teacher-student relationships, and really, really immature humor present in many anime, and I'm not even referring to hentai here. This is just in regular, normal anime. What's there to question. People like to make stories with those things in them on occasion all around the world. Hell, Lolicon is based on a Western concept and teacher-student relationships so damn common everywhere. |
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Anime_Name said: I also question the amount of romantacized lolicon, incest, teacher-student relationships, and really, really immature humor present in many anime, and I'm not even referring to hentai here. This is just in regular, normal anime. What's there to question. People like to make stories with those things in them on occasion all around the world. Hell, Lolicon is based on a Western concept and teacher-student relationships so damn common everywhere. Being common doesn't make them okay. Your posts really are somewhat disturbing, dude. It's one thing to show these relationships, it's another to act like they are totally okay. The main one I'm thinking of is Card Captor Sakura, with the 4th grader girl and her teacher. They portray it as really cute and sweet , which is what bothers me. "PEDOPHILIA IS CUTE GAIZ!" No. This is the most disturbing example I can think of, especially considering Card Captor Sakura is aimed at LITTLE GIRLS. Sailor Moon has Usagi as a 14 year old, and Mamoru as a college student. Yes, they were lovers in a past life, but... Why make him college age? What purpose did that serve other than making the relationship slightly more creepy? And this is another one aimed at young girls. It's not as bad, I'll admit, but still disturbing. Incest is also glorified in a lot of anime. There are some, like Angel Sanctuary and Ceres that try to show that there are reprecussions for it (Although I never did finish Angel Sanctuary <manga>, so I don't know how that all pans out.) I know Japan has a myth of sorts about twins actually being lovers from a past life, but it's often used as something 'very cute and sweet'. Baisically, it's one thing to show these things, and another to glorify them and act like they are okay. |
ClaudiusClotaire said: Mecha, needs to fucking crash and burn. Forgot about that, I agree! |
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