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Nov 13, 2015 5:55 PM
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Eh, I think the fight between Erza and Kyoka in their encounter this episode was okay. Felt more like a battle of wills and about what they are fighting for rather than just who is superior. Out of all their encounters so far, I'd say that this was the most fierce one yet.

A decent focus on Erza especially with her struggles.
I cant' say I'm surprised that her allies are angry at what Kyoka is doing to her. What a comeback though. Predictable but fitting for someone like Erza. But Face...D:
Nov 13, 2015 6:37 PM
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It's because of the magic eye that Erza is saved. And nakama power of course.

Next is the eternal loli turn to show up.
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Nov 13, 2015 6:52 PM
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This is the controversial battle that made the Fairy Tail community explode, so what of it. First of all let me talk about strictly about the anime adaption. As usual it does a great job on making the chapters come to life, and was more enjoyable than in the manga.

We saw more of the dragons which is always a plus. And still nothing is scary than all the Lammys.

Now as for the Erza vs Kyouka fight, I don't hate it as much as everyone seems to. Did Hiro make Kyouka too OP yes, did he fail to give a proper explanation of how Erza was able to overcome losing her sense and such and win, yup.

It is a shame because there were reasons in place that they could have used, like Erza fake eye, I know that has saved her before, but that could have been used, or the explanation I would have gone for, her experience at the Tower of Heaven, toughen her so much that nothing Kyouka could do could top that experience.

And Minerva gave the finishing blow, she was there simply so Erza would not bloody her hands, which I think is unnecessary, why can't anyone from Fairy Tail kill someone, but I can excuse that with Erza in that, she has this thing with Jellal in which she has never soil herself with darkness while Jellal has his hands covered with blood, so to keep that going, Erza can't kill.

On the other hand, it does give Minerva something to do, and she actually did something to contribute to her redemption, which up to this point all she has done is be a victim to be pitied.

But it is too late Face is activated, what will happen now? We will find out, next week Natsu gets some help from Sting and Rogue against Mard Guille, while the fight between the dragons continue.
Nov 13, 2015 6:59 PM
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Worst fight of this series and one of the worst fights I have ever seen. Really hoping that they were going to change it. The only explanation that was given was "because she's Erza." Her winning had absolutely nothing to do with her eye which could've made for a half decent explanation. Either way this episode was pure trash.

At least the Igneel vs Acnologia was decent.
Nov 13, 2015 7:43 PM
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Question: If Erza was stripped of her sense of touch then why on Earth is she supposed to feel pain?

"I've stolen her five senses and increased her pain sensitivity to the max" <-- What, this doesn't make any sense.
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Nov 13, 2015 8:20 PM
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They really should've used at least the explanation of Erza's fake eye instead.
Nov 13, 2015 8:41 PM
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1.) A-1 couldn't easily retconned the BS known as Erza.

2.) One roar from Acno destroyed an island, yet multiple roars just put little holes in the terrain? Why? Because Acno doesn't think Igneel is worth giving a serious attack on?


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Nov 13, 2015 9:01 PM
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This episode was actually good, I have already complained about Erza vs kyouka, not gonna complain again.
The acno vs Igneel fight was what made the episode for me.It was great, and much better than previous episode.Also the reaction of cana and others was done nicely, and added to fight unlike the previous episode where they only slowed the fight.
As for erza vs kyouka, the fight had mediocre animation but the part where kyouka shoots her green lighting everywhere was really nicely done.
Next episode is gonna be Mardtastic, cant wait for it, unless igeel and acno steal his spotlight
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Acno's full powered roar was island buster.These are his casual roars.
Nov 13, 2015 9:12 PM
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Acno's full powered roar was island buster.These are his casual roars.
And why is that the case? Because he doesn't want to go serious against the 'Fire Dragon King'? Well, no wonder he
Nov 13, 2015 9:17 PM

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Fairy Tail on that Nakama power up again, but this is on a whole new level of derpiness. Hiro Mashima has really just given up writing his manga properly, the series had a good start but went sour fast after the defeat of Laxus.
I really hope Fairy Tail would get cancelled, but that aint gonna happen because all those readers in japan only care about the Fanservice and Nakama power ups.
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Nov 13, 2015 11:31 PM

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This episode was okay.

Ichigostar234 said:
Fairy Tail on that Nakama power up again, but this is on a whole new level of derpiness. Hiro Mashima has really just given up writing his manga properly, the series had a good start but went sour fast after the defeat of Laxus.
I really hope Fairy Tail would get cancelled, but that aint gonna happen because all those readers in japan only care about the Fanservice and Nakama power ups.
Godspeed Fairy Tail. Godspeed.


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Nov 14, 2015 12:09 AM

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and thus the most controversial fight ends.
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Nov 14, 2015 12:21 AM
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That episode was fucking trash. I didn't expected so much, but that was horrible.
Trash animation. I'm seriously thinking of stop watching FT anime.
Nov 14, 2015 1:09 AM

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That episode was fucking trash. I didn't expected so much, but that was horrible.
Trash animation. I'm seriously thinking of stop watching FT anime.


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Nov 14, 2015 1:13 AM

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Thank fuck the worst fight in the arc is now over and done with.
Nov 14, 2015 1:14 AM

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Jorge_Sani said:
That episode was fucking trash. I didn't expected so much, but that was horrible.
Trash animation. I'm seriously thinking of stop watching FT anime.


1st troll post nice one.

Not really a troll post. This episode really was trash.
Nov 14, 2015 3:29 AM

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Good thing that the fight was already adapted. As much that I love FT, that fight was really bad. In the manga I though that the fight was bullshit, in the anime, not only is that, but also have made me cringe (in a bad way). Well, at least Kyoka's boobs were glorious. I liked Ai Kayano's voice acting as her.

Also, based Happy saying that Erza has won the fight because she's Erza was the best of the episode (apart of the small bits of the fight of Igneel and Acnologia). I think that Mashima did this on purpose.

Well, next episode is Mard Geer fight (the best of the arc) and Acnologia finally speaks! I wonder who will be his seiyuu.
Nov 14, 2015 3:57 AM

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Nakama powerup lol. This never fails xD yes, it's overused lmao Yeah, the fight sure is average, an explanation is required for how Erza was able to kick Kyouka's butt again despite all that pain (extra scenes in BD? But nah...no chance). Magic eye as some people above said is indeed a good reason, but I always think her torturous days back in Tower of Heaven made her much tougher and able to endure the pain, even to the bone. Too bad they never showed the reason(s), and of course "because she's Erza!"...Happy, your explanation sure is too simple to be convinced xD Well, looking forward to the next episode, as I kinda spoiled myself (due to curiosity) regarding who that girl in a crystal is and what it might be referring to.

Nov 14, 2015 5:06 AM

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Erza seems like she's nearly fainting when Kyouka blows some wind towards her, yet she kicks Kyouka's ass... If a breeze of wind makes her act like she did then she couldn't survive dealing out punches. As for the whole removing senses and still increasing pain to the max. Just weird.

Liked Igneel vs Acnologia though. Hope to see more of Natsu vs Mard next episode.
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Nov 14, 2015 5:26 AM

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Didn't really like Erza VS Kyouka in this episode, but I'm looking forward for the next episode.




Nov 14, 2015 6:37 AM

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Thanks to Mashima, I started hating Erza after reading the manga having this fight. I'm not going to complain much now but I'm happy this bs is over.

Looks like 2 more episodes till this arc ends?
Nov 14, 2015 7:15 AM

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Nov 14, 2015 7:32 AM

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The battle was okay, not too intense. fighting with wills.
well , decent battle overall. but Face......
Next episode title "The girl in the crystal" <<< What is this mean? makes me want to read the manga. is it Mavis? or who? Makarov will appear out of nowhere with Mavis or with the girl in the crystal? and i think acnologia will start to talk in the next episode.
Nov 14, 2015 8:37 AM

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Thought the Erza part of keeping on fighting even though she got all her senses sealed was pretty damn cheesy to be honest....

Oh well, I guess the other parts were good and we sure got a damn cliffhanger on this ep :/
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Nov 14, 2015 9:08 AM

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Nuvi said:
Thanks to Mashima, I started hating Erza after reading the manga having this fight. I'm not going to complain much now but I'm happy this bs is over.

Looks like 2 more episodes till this arc ends?


Uh no, like 6-7 more episodes.
Nov 14, 2015 9:32 AM
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Weakest fight in FT by far. I read the manga so I knew. I actually would with Lily's "other senses manifested" thing, in fact aren't there sensory types in the manga or something? I'll just assume Erza somehow activated some sense that allowed her to perceive the actual magic aura (or curse in this case) of someone. There's also the whole "I can feel your instinct to kill" thing done by other manga he could've used.

In the other side of the fight, Kyouka was literally just given a power that's God-Tier (and she didn't even use it right). She says she can keep strengthening her power but she didn't become Mard Geer level or anything (I'll just chalk this up to only becoming as strong as the body itself can handle) or it has to do with she couldn't use her full power due to linking with Face. I still don't understand the senses thing, if her curse is strengthening then how can she even affect the senses (besides strengthening them)?
Nov 14, 2015 10:01 AM

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Yo this episode was so goddamn weak and shitty. I could enjoy the Acnologia x Igneel part because that was actually amazing.
But the total amount of BULLSHIT that Erza x Kyoka match has is too fucking much. I mean could Hiro not think of an other way to fix this fight?
Gladly I had already read the manga so I already knew of this but fuck these two episodes were a waste. At least the background music was okay.
1/5, this episode was absolutely garbage.
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i guess..may b the creator's were so confident about that the viewers must have remembered about her artificial eye thing they never bothered to explain her tolerance/resistance level ...

so I'll take this as a good thing..



Nov 14, 2015 12:23 PM
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Erza!(Sprinkling some heart icon)! She is OP and im OK with that :D
Nov 14, 2015 12:33 PM
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ReinhardVonMusel said:
Question: If Erza was stripped of her sense of touch then why on Earth is she supposed to feel pain?

"I've stolen her five senses and increased her pain sensitivity to the max" <-- What, this doesn't make any sense.


Pain is separate from the sense of touch. It was formerly believed that pain was overload of the sense of pressure (which falls under "touch"); however, the pain receptors are distinct from pressure receptors.

It's hard to say what kind of effect Kyouka's curse would have on the CNS, but the pain areas of the brain are also distinct from the touch areas just as the pain receptors are distinct from touch receptors (pain seems to be registered in the anterior cingulate cortex, whereas the sense of touch is located in the postcentral gyrus). Then again, it's hard to say how people's brains work in Fairy Tail land. The thing that bugged me about "I've stolen her five senses" the most is that there are more than 5 senses (in fact, there are 20 or so known senses; again, who knows how many senses people in Fairy Tail land have)
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Erza has developed a new sense. A SENSE OF NAKAMAS.
Nov 14, 2015 2:26 PM

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Why does Erza always get the bullshit fights? :(
Nov 14, 2015 2:41 PM

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Why does Erza always get the bullshit fights? :(

Nov 14, 2015 2:43 PM

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Cowheart said:
Why does Erza always get the bullshit fights? :(

coz she is erza
Nov 14, 2015 2:44 PM

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Cowheart said:
Why does Erza always get the bullshit fights? :(



This.
Nov 14, 2015 8:10 PM

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Erza has developed a new sense. A SENSE OF NAKAMAS.
You do know she's had this power since (or maybe even earlier, I forget) Edolas?
Nov 14, 2015 8:11 PM

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Cowheart said:
Why does Erza always get the bullshit fights? :(
She doesn't get the bullshit fights, she just makes the outcome bullshit.
Nov 15, 2015 12:45 AM
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Also has anyone noticed that this studio focuses and makes the extended fights or anime original fights scenes better than the canon fight scenes?
For ex: laxus vs tempesta anime original fight was a hell lot a better animated than the canon one
Acno vs igneel in today's episode was extended anime original fight which was better than previous episode
Also I remember during Gmg, gray and juvia's combo attack against atlas flame was better animated than the real one.Even rufus's attack looked lot better and so did jura's in anime extended attacks and fight
Nov 15, 2015 9:17 AM

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Everyone is talking how much the episode is trash and you know, they are totally right ffs.
All Erza's fight outcomes are predetermined by her victory after being completely useless and then using the power o friendship. Good stuff, the best plot (-_-)
Nov 15, 2015 11:48 AM

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That asspull >_> erza always be winning with the power of friendship or somethin. like jesus.
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Omfg seriously the amount of hate on this episode is absolutely ridiculous fairy tail is at an amazing part of the anime I thought this episode was fucking great ok animation may not have been perfect all the way through but the build up to face was fantastic and I didn't expect it at the end.

Also the acnologia and igneel fight was fucking awesome and the natsu and Mard geer one is heating up to not to mention how great the story telling was. As for the Erza vs kyoka fight I really do not get all the hate I mean it wasn't the most intense fight but it had a good story and was inspiring I loved the scene after Erza lost her senses and still fought back. It is a world of magic what do u expect? U cannot complain about that seriously guys what's all the fuss about was 5/5 for me one of the best most intense episodes I've seen can't wait for next week
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Lol this episode was so dumb. Felt like I was watching a hentai the entire time with whats her name's ability to increase sensitivity of others. I swear that's her only purpose, as doujinshi bait for some bdsm with Erza.

The 5 sense things but overcome with nakama power was even dumber.
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Omfg seriously the amount of hate on this episode is absolutely ridiculous fairy tail is at an amazing part of the anime I thought this episode was fucking great ok animation may not have been perfect all the way through but the build up to face was fantastic and I didn't expect it at the end.

Also the acnologia and igneel fight was fucking awesome and the natsu and Mard geer one is heating up to not to mention how great the story telling was. As for the Erza vs kyoka fight I really do not get all the hate I mean it wasn't the most intense fight but it had a good story and was inspiring I loved the scene after Erza lost her senses and still fought back. It is a world of magic what do u expect? U cannot complain about that seriously guys what's all the fuss about was 5/5 for me one of the best most intense episodes I've seen can't wait for next week
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Nov 16, 2015 11:47 AM

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A bit too much fanservice and maybe little too much Nakama power. I mean Erza could stand up a minute after she lost all her senses. I mean wtf? I think it would have been better if someone jumped in for her.

It just way too much nakama power for someone to fight without any of their 5 senses. This is totally bullshit. LOL, I guess Happy were right, "she is Erza". xD

Anyways, they had a decent animation. So my rating will be 3/5.
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ReinhardVonMusel said:
Question: If Erza was stripped of her sense of touch then why on Earth is she supposed to feel pain?

"I've stolen her five senses and increased her pain sensitivity to the max" <-- What, this doesn't make any sense.


LOL, I know right. ANd how much is that woman's durability. Over 9000? xD This nakama-power become too much if you ask me.
Nov 16, 2015 11:58 AM

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Fairy Tail on that Nakama power up again, but this is on a whole new level of derpiness. Hiro Mashima has really just given up writing his manga properly, the series had a good start but went sour fast after the defeat of Laxus.
I really hope Fairy Tail would get cancelled, but that aint gonna happen because all those readers in japan only care about the Fanservice and Nakama power ups.
Godspeed Fairy Tail. Godspeed.


I hope it doesn't get cancelled for one single reason and that is the music and OST. I can't see a future without it. xD As long as the music is on top, I hope they continue the animation. :P
Nov 16, 2015 12:09 PM

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Nakama powerup lol. This never fails xD yes, it's overused lmao Yeah, the fight sure is average, an explanation is required for how Erza was able to kick Kyouka's butt again despite all that pain (extra scenes in BD? But nah...no chance). Magic eye as some people above said is indeed a good reason, but I always think her torturous days back in Tower of Heaven made her much tougher and able to endure the pain, even to the bone. Too bad they never showed the reason(s), and of course "because she's Erza!"...Happy, your explanation sure is too simple to be convinced xD Well, looking forward to the next episode, as I kinda spoiled myself (due to curiosity) regarding who that girl in a crystal is and what it might be referring to.


Well, then we are two in the same shoes. >.> I also spoiled myself there. hhaah
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ReinhardVonMusel said:
Question: If Erza was stripped of her sense of touch then why on Earth is she supposed to feel pain?

"I've stolen her five senses and increased her pain sensitivity to the max" <-- What, this doesn't make any sense.


Pain is separate from the sense of touch. It was formerly believed that pain was overload of the sense of pressure (which falls under "touch"); however, the pain receptors are distinct from pressure receptors.

It's hard to say what kind of effect Kyouka's curse would have on the CNS, but the pain areas of the brain are also distinct from the touch areas just as the pain receptors are distinct from touch receptors (pain seems to be registered in the anterior cingulate cortex, whereas the sense of touch is located in the postcentral gyrus). Then again, it's hard to say how people's brains work in Fairy Tail land. The thing that bugged me about "I've stolen her five senses" the most is that there are more than 5 senses (in fact, there are 20 or so known senses; again, who knows how many senses people in Fairy Tail land have)


yeah, you got a point. But if there is no touch receptors to send signals to the brain about pain, how are she supposed to feel it. It's like if you stab your finger with a needle. If you have no receptors there, how are the signal supposed to get to the brain.

But I guess anime logic in FT work differently. Apperently, this fight didn't have much logic or science in it. LOL
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Drfilthy_dub said:
Omfg seriously the amount of hate on this episode is absolutely ridiculous fairy tail is at an amazing part of the anime I thought this episode was fucking great ok animation may not have been perfect all the way through but the build up to face was fantastic and I didn't expect it at the end.

Also the acnologia and igneel fight was fucking awesome and the natsu and Mard geer one is heating up to not to mention how great the story telling was. As for the Erza vs kyoka fight I really do not get all the hate I mean it wasn't the most intense fight but it had a good story and was inspiring I loved the scene after Erza lost her senses and still fought back. It is a world of magic what do u expect? U cannot complain about that seriously guys what's all the fuss about was 5/5 for me one of the best most intense episodes I've seen can't wait for next week
How about 'ya make that post with your real account, huh buddy? Then we'll care about your ignorant opinion.


Why should we fight over others opinon, lol. Everybody have different opinions. Respect it!
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ziggy_Z said:
Cowheart said:
Why does Erza always get the bullshit fights? :(
She doesn't get the bullshit fights, she just makes the outcome bullshit.


If the outcome is bullshit, it makes the fight bullshit for me.

Mashima should really be able to write better fights for Erza. He wrote Rave Master, where Haru used a sword with multiple forms. Erza's power is nearly the same but with armor, and this is even referenced in the Edolas arc where Edolas Erza uses the transforming spear named after Haru's sword. Potentially we could have some really interesting battles where Erza uses a combination of different armors to win, but instead she gets her ass kicked until the bullshit kicks in.
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