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| Interesting developments in this chapter. One thing I really like about this, as messed up as it is, is that Jean and the others are having to actually kill people. In so many series, a common theme is that the protagonists/"good guys" refuse to kill other people, which is a noble sentiment and obviously the better option. But sometimes it just isn't realistic. In the SnK world, especially with these anti-personnel gear-wielding people, it would also be unrealistic for all of the good characters to get out without having to kill some people. It makes me sad to see the characters having to go through so much, but I really do appreciate the manga taking that route. Excited to see what happens next. |
Aerostar said: I have to agree with KenniSenpai, this story is pretty damn complex and the reason I say that is because we have a whole bunch of questions and hardly any answers to them. The series is full of twist and turns that keep you on your toes constantly. KenniSenpai said: Opinions like these that makes me worry how the anime will cover this part, I hope they add some childish twist to it because people don't like politics. Our Government is fucked up, so it Attack on Titan's but some younger people can't seem to relate, realize, or care. This is getting interesting, nice to know we find out where the titans are coming from. It's kind of boring if they just stayed attack titans til something happened, I mean they have been doing that for 100 years with no luck. Now they realize the monster is within this is a real game changer for the better. If you don't like complex stories that twist and turn, go back to Naruto or One Piece. I watch/read both I'm not dissing them, but I always knew Naruto would be Hokage and end up with Hokage. I know Luffy will be King of The Pirates, it those type of animes that are direct and simple geared for younger kids. What will happen at the end of AoT? We can only make guesses and find out, I like that. Just a personal opinion. Lol I've not even watched any Naruto or One Piece. This is not a complex story. Probably only badly written. I liked the anime but the whole story of this manga is terrible. I'm also older than you. Like he said most popular Anime/Manga are predictable. I knew Naruto would become Hokage and it's obvious that Luffy will be the king of the pirates in 8 or 9 years(or whenever the hell Oda said the manga was ending) This uprising arc has been very relevant to the plot, since the monarchy was trying to eliminate the survey corps they wouldn't haven't been able to do anything in the future if they hadn't taken care of them. Now that the government is under military control the scouting legion is free to do their jobs without any interference. I'll admit this arc was sluggish and had plenty of boring moments, but that's how a story should be sometimes. We can't have action all the time, dialogue is important for the development of characters as well as the plot. If we had nothing but titan action their wouldn't be any progress because the military would be too busy fighting giants instead of getting to the root of the problem. And I disagree with your opinion about this story being poorly written. The only thing terrible about this manga is the art, but then again that's my personal opinion. Even if you're older, it does seem like you're aren't seeing the big picture and I hope it doesn't seem like I'm verbally attacking you because that is not my intention at all. Still think about it, all the moves that were made, the deception and of course the sacrifices. It's like a damn chess game. People are constantly complaining about how boring the manga has gotten, but those same people keep coming back for more each and every month because they no the pay off will be huge in the end. Eventually we will get to Eren's basement, soon we will learn about that ape titan, and of course we'll get to see RBA's village at some point. Isayama is a brilliant author because he keeps us speculating on the many mysteries he has laid out. With every chapter there are new theories on forums regarding the different secrets that have yet to be revealed and many of them are interesting and well thought out. If these things aren't a recipe for a good manga, than I am curious to know what is? His writing style is the reason why attack on titan has blown up in popularity. Be patient my friend and you'll get what you're looking for out of this story. |
APracticalStonerDec 17, 2014 4:42 PM
| "I'm saying that guns aren't for threats, they're for actions."-Shanks |
| Since you are all talking about the Beast Titan... So, the person he is must have been living under a rock for a long time. Everyone inside the Walls has known about 3DG since it was created. I also asume people living outside also have known about this for a long time. Maybe the Beast Titan is someone who lived before 3DG was invented? Of course, if it is actually a shifter - we don't know, because he reffers to humans as "they". My theory is that the Beast Titan is actually the first titan, or an ancient titan - a forefather to titans. Maybe his connection to today's titans is somewhat like apes connection to humans? I mean, he looks like an ape and titans look like humans - maybe that's the hint? I also have a theory that he was maintenanced or sleeping or in a state similar to coma - that would explain why he hasn't known about 3DG. It would make him really old - maybe he remebers the day titans appeard and attacked mankind? (sorry for my English, it's not my first language - but I'm trying to do my best) |
MisterSinister said: Reiss: "Did you know that if you do anything I say, all your dreams will come true and everyone will know everything! You'll even get a puppy and your sister will come back to life!" Historia: "REALLLLLLLLLLLLLY?! I should betray one of my closest, if only, friends because his father killed by family, which I didn't even know I had until five minutes ago, being told by the literally shittiest person in charge (after Zackley)" Historia is literally acting like a COMPLETE IDIOT! She has NO reason to believe a single word Reiss says! Or if he, oh, I don't know HAS A SECRET AGENDA FOR ALL THIS! He doesn't have a good reason that he sent Kenny to MURDER HER FAMILY or LET HER LIVE IN SQUALOR FOR THE ENTIRETY OF HER LIFE other than "it's dangerous." He's the one who is pulling the strings and Historia is just tying those strings on tight around every limb. You know what makes one of the most trusted people you know the most dangerous person ever? Heresay evidence that a person who was never seen again killed her family. Why is he considered responsible for the actions of his father? or in some ways culpable?! Reiss is almost making a coherent argument now that he's saying she has to eat Eren in order to "attain the true knowledge" but why does she give a flying shit?! How does she know he's not lying? Why can't HE just take the injection and toss her ass back to Murder Family Farm? Maybe there is a reason he is keeping THE ONLY PERSON WHO IS THINKING IN THE ROOM gagged and locked up. Things I hope will happen: 1. Kenny will shoot Reiss and explain his plan and/or origin as he dies. 2. Historia will take the injection, but then use it to kill Kenny and/or Reiss 3. Eren will GET OUT SOMEHOW 4. The rest of the team will start being anywhere nearer to the other main characters. 5. Zackley will just obviously become the new antagonist, since he is very obviously obsessed with control and torture. You just traded the secretive, murderous Royalty for a fascist, sadistic Rebel who only took over so he could torture people and sees this as a "constructive" form of it. 6. ANYTHING GETS EXPLAINED EVER 7. Reiss is the Beast Titan? Reiss reveals his plan? 8. Annie shows up? Do we actually know where she is now? Maybe Im just slow but shes not made a single move that shows she believes anything he says yet... |
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| I'm reading most of the comments and I notice know one mentioning that eren could be a reiss and he could well can use the full potential of the coordinate. Papa reiss just doesn't know yet. Notice Historia was about to say something before Kenny interrupted her? I bet she was going to tell her father that she saw eren control all the titans. |
keragamming said: Well I've been hypothesizing for a few months now that Karla might have been a Reiss before marrying Grisha, it's just a theory but there is a high probability that it might be true.I'm reading most of the comments and I notice know one mentioning that eren could be a reiss and he could well can use the full potential of the coordinate. Papa reiss just doesn't know yet. Notice Historia was about to say something before Kenny interrupted her? I bet she was going to tell her father that she saw eren control all the titans. |
APracticalStonerDec 17, 2014 4:56 PM
| "I'm saying that guns aren't for threats, they're for actions."-Shanks |
Badass-Armin said: keragamming said: Well I've been hypothesizing for a few months now that Karla might have been a Reiss before marrying Grisha, it's just a theory but there is a high probability that it might be true.I'm reading most of the comments and I notice know one mentioning that eren could be a reiss and he could well can use the full potential of the coordinate. Papa reiss just doesn't know yet. Notice Historia was about to say something before Kenny interrupted her? I bet she was going to tell her father that she saw eren control all the titans. Quite possible and it would immediately resolve many of the issues about the Coordinator. Yet, there's a difference in how Eren and Frieda used it and actually it would be more intriguing if 'anyone' can use the coordinator besides the close relative connections. For one, it places Grisha's act where it should be - by giving the Coordinator to Eren, he also gave the mankind a chance to experience its history without memory loss or manipulation. Second, regardless whether the Reisses and the Jaegars share a blood connection, how RBA deemed to use the coordinator if the assumption is that only a Reiss (and a Jaegar) could have? About Rod's lies: Krista's mom murder and the way he accentuates on Grisha's sin and focuses the blame on Eren clearly shows he has no scruples into brainwashing his own child. He doesn't give a damn about a possible loss of another Wall (the fake news of Wall Rose's breach), but apparently he is also quick enough in making up convenient stories for dangerous and surprising contenders like Kenny. It is obvious he wants the power back into his family and, above all, under his control. Now, what he is not lying about could be that he truly believes this is how it should be. Maybe the Reisses were indeed the bloodline that inherited the founder's will behind the walls and Rod probably thinks that hiding the truth (the history of the world and the walls) is the right course of action, given the alternative. It's the same dilemma we had been discussing way back when Hanji almost threw Pastor Nick off Wall Sina - what the people would do if they realize they have been guarded by titans in the walls? How would they live - in peace or in constant fear and despair knowing it? Wouldn't some of them try to use the wall titans for personal gains and/or against humanity, like some of them did in the past (hinted)? Even more - what would be the life in a confined area along with creatures like the shifters, who "only" look humans, but are titans (monsters) as well [the sentiments expressed during Eren's trial]. I don't know how much Rod indeed knows or believes he know about the world history and the coordinator. Honestly, it's not all that important, because they are all screwed up - in the past, in the present, and possibly in the future (RBA weren't looking for the Coordinator just because they felt like it, right?) It's a matter of choice what to do next. Life turned into living hell after the breach of Wall Maria, but if the real king thinks his duty is only to lull the thinning number of humans and walls into believing they are OK and shit doesn't or won't happen ... well, it's fairly moronic (though it might not have been in the beginning). |
zellamiDec 18, 2014 6:59 AM
| Looks like Historia's father wants her to consume Eren just as how Freida consumed her uncle. We finally see the good guys killing their own more in this chapter and it would only continue now. Kenny is definitely gonna turned on Reiss with his look. |
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| Oh man...so many feels after reading that. I'm really starting to wonder if everything the Survey Corps Coalition have been doing up till now was for the greater good.... Why do they [the Reiss Family] have to 'pass down the secret'? Why can't they just tell everyone the truth? I--I don't understand... The only way I could see them getting out of this is if, somehow, by a miraculous occurence, Eren figured out how to harness the Reiss Family's ability.... Maybe that's why Eren's father did what he did. Maybe he had faith in him that he could fail where he couldn't.... Either some plot no jutsu happens and the Reiss tradition is uprooted (lol, I can't even believe I'm considering this...) or Eren willingly lets himself be sacrificed to Historia. But there's one thing I don't understand though.... How could Eren've taken the ability if his father wasn't even there to give him the ability as he was at the heart of the incident of Wall Shina? They said Eren's Dad was fighting Historia during the Wall Shina overtaking right? So how did Eren obtain this ability? Unless I misread the manga and this actually happened long before Wall Shina was overrun; correct me if I'm wrong. Anyway, now that I'm caught up I'm going to wait another year so that I'll have plenty of shite to read then since Isayama does 1 chapter a month. So yeah |
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_Izaya_ said: Eren's Dads name is Grisha and he wasn't fighting Historia he was fighting her older half sister Frieda. Secondly, Wall Sina wasn't the wall that had been breached since it is the innermost wall which is the furthest one from the titans. Wall Maria is the outermost wall and was the closest wall to the titans, that was the one that had been breached and invaded by titans.Oh man...so many feels after reading that. I'm really starting to wonder if everything the Survey Corps Coalition have been doing up till now was for the greater good.... Why do they [the Reiss Family] have to 'pass down the secret'? Why can't they just tell everyone the truth? I--I don't understand... The only way I could see them getting out of this is if, somehow, by a miraculous occurence, Eren figured out how to harness the Reiss Family's ability.... Maybe that's why Eren's father did what he did. Maybe he had faith in him that he could fail where he couldn't.... Either some plot no jutsu happens and the Reiss tradition is uprooted (lol, I can't even believe I'm considering this...) or Eren willingly lets himself be sacrificed to Historia. But there's one thing I don't understand though.... How could Eren've taken the ability if his father wasn't even there to give him the ability as he was at the heart of the incident of Wall Shina? They said Eren's Dad was fighting Historia during the Wall Shina overtaking right? So how did Eren obtain this ability? Unless I misread the manga and this actually happened long before Wall Shina was overrun; correct me if I'm wrong. Anyway, now that I'm caught up I'm going to wait another year so that I'll have plenty of shit to read then since Isayama does 1 chapter a month. So yeah Grisha was already heading towards Wall Sina before the breach of Wall Maria. Eren, Mikasa, and Armin all took refuge in Wall Rose(the second wall) with the rest of the survivors. Apparently Grisha was fast enough to travel back to Wall Rose to find his son and make the transfer. |
| "I'm saying that guns aren't for threats, they're for actions."-Shanks |
Badass-Armin said: _Izaya_ said: Eren's Dads name is Grisha and he wasn't fighting Historia he was fighting her older half sister Frieda. Secondly, Wall Sina wasn't the wall that had been breached since it is the innermost wall which is the furthest one from the titans. Wall Maria is the outermost wall and was the closest wall to the titans, that was the one that had been breached and invaded by titans.Oh man...so many feels after reading that. I'm really starting to wonder if everything the Survey Corps Coalition have been doing up till now was for the greater good.... Why do they [the Reiss Family] have to 'pass down the secret'? Why can't they just tell everyone the truth? I--I don't understand... The only way I could see them getting out of this is if, somehow, by a miraculous occurence, Eren figured out how to harness the Reiss Family's ability.... Maybe that's why Eren's father did what he did. Maybe he had faith in him that he could fail where he couldn't.... Either some plot no jutsu happens and the Reiss tradition is uprooted (lol, I can't even believe I'm considering this...) or Eren willingly lets himself be sacrificed to Historia. But there's one thing I don't understand though.... How could Eren've taken the ability if his father wasn't even there to give him the ability as he was at the heart of the incident of Wall Shina? They said Eren's Dad was fighting Historia during the Wall Shina overtaking right? So how did Eren obtain this ability? Unless I misread the manga and this actually happened long before Wall Shina was overrun; correct me if I'm wrong. Anyway, now that I'm caught up I'm going to wait another year so that I'll have plenty of shit to read then since Isayama does 1 chapter a month. So yeah Grisha was already heading towards Wall Sina before the breach of Wall Maria. Eren, Mikasa, and Armin all took refuge in Wall Rose(the second wall) with the rest of the survivors. Apparently Grisha was fast enough to travel back to Wall Rose to find his son and make the transfer. Wow, that's so weird O_O Oh well. All that's left to do is wait until a year from now so that I can read this again. Thanks for the clarifying ^_^ ! |
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_Izaya_ said: Lol no problem and I must say you have the patience of a saint for being able to wait an entire year.Badass-Armin said: Eren's Dads name is Grisha and he wasn't fighting Historia he was fighting her older half sister Frieda. Secondly, Wall Sina wasn't the wall that had been breached since it is the innermost wall which is the furthest one from the titans. Wall Maria is the outermost wall and was the closest wall to the titans, that was the one that had been breached and invaded by titans. Grisha was already heading towards Wall Sina before the breach of Wall Maria. Eren, Mikasa, and Armin all took refuge in Wall Rose(the second wall) with the rest of the survivors. Apparently Grisha was fast enough to travel back to Wall Rose to find his son and make the transfer. Wow, that's so weird O_O Oh well. All that's left to do is wait until a year from now so that I can read this again. Thanks for the clarifying ^_^ ! |
| "I'm saying that guns aren't for threats, they're for actions."-Shanks |
| That insight, that history. Frieda knew it all. |
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FaolanOkumura said: Lol it happens to the best of usUgh I meant KenniSenpai and Badass-Armin, not Aerostar. I didn't follow the right column up to the names. |
| "I'm saying that guns aren't for threats, they're for actions."-Shanks |
| Kenny what are u thinking about.? FaolanOkumura said: lolWtf the quotes for this are all messed up xD |
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| So this was Kenny dream..? Way to make it crumble in a mather of second. His face of despair was priceless :D I'm sure that Hange is only injured. Badly. But not too much, I hope. They did a great job fooling with the Military Corps. Jean and Connie killed humans... They all accepted their fate and job. |
| «Time is passing so quickly. Right now, I feel like complaining to Einstein. Whether time is slow or fast depends on perception. Relativity theory is so romantic. And so sad.» - Kurisu Makise a.k.a. The Zombie |
| Too many laughable pages in this chapter. 1/10 |
| Isayama Hajime should be awarded The Manga with The Highest Inconsistencies of Characters' Appearances. He keeps performing multiple plastic surgeries on those Shingeki No Kyojin characters in a SINGLE chapter. Yes, I've read up to the latest chapter of Shingeki No Kyojin manga. Forced myself to read through the kidsketching chapters after the anime's ended. At least from now on, I only have to go through the hell once a month. Patiently awaiting SNK TV/movie/OVA anime-sequel. The 2015 SNK live-action movie would probably suck. |
Archmedinian said: This Frieda was one of the Reiss family members, right? (Historia's sister) LOL. I know the artwork sucks, but don't skip the pages. |
| Isayama Hajime should be awarded The Manga with The Highest Inconsistencies of Characters' Appearances. He keeps performing multiple plastic surgeries on those Shingeki No Kyojin characters in a SINGLE chapter. Yes, I've read up to the latest chapter of Shingeki No Kyojin manga. Forced myself to read through the kidsketching chapters after the anime's ended. At least from now on, I only have to go through the hell once a month. Patiently awaiting SNK TV/movie/OVA anime-sequel. The 2015 SNK live-action movie would probably suck. |
| Now this story is far away from titans from outside attacking and survey corps fighting them.. So how did that "Strongest" Titan create the walls ? Gather lots of titans in 3 circles and freeze then ? ;/ And what..Grisha killed Reiss , got their powers and inherited them to his Son ? |
KenniSenpai said: FaolanOkumura said: Were you being ironic when you said "Jesus didn't realize he was only in his 20's...[...]"? .... N - no? Ironic? Is it because I didn't put a comma? No xD It just kind of sounded like that with the way you were wording it xD Sorry, I was wrong then x) Never mind me! x') Thank you guys, that exchange was ridiculously funny. srsly tho, MAL's quote system is completely fucked up OT: that chapter was the bomb. And like others pointed out, something in Rod's little story definitely doesn't add up. |
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| Awesome chapter. I love the strategy Levi's squad used to get the upper hand against the enemies. Kenny's one son of a b*tch. 5/5 |
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| So much new information If the Reiss are really the best at using that power how come they didn't get rid of the Titans...unless Grisha came and fucked up everything, he must have had a reason though... Hope Eren will remember the world's memories someday. |
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| So a Titan made the walls. But who? And what happened to him/her? |
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| well that was a big reveal... suddenly eren is the main focus ...again... Hyteria have to eateren...but will she? I don't think so.... |
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ItsXolo said: "a special super titan created all of the walls and erased everyone's memories with a magical shout! also, that shout conveniently doesn't work on certain bloodlines! also, if you eat a titan, you ~~gain it's memories and powers~~!!! the writing in this series is so awful and contrived. i understand that people like the series because the characters move through the air like spiderman and sometimes the camera pans around them, but i cannot take someone seriously if they try to tell me that the series has anything even approaching a well-crafted storyline or competent writing. Well, here is another way you can look at it. You see this shout is actually the power of the "coordinate" the title of chapter 50 was called "shout" if you notice when eren used it, the shifters sense it and you could see some type of electrcity. The coordinate can do two things it can control titans and erase memories. In chapter 53, you saw the girl which is now known as Frieda put her head on Historia and erase her memories, again you see a electricity effect. if you eat a titan, you ~~gain it's memories and powers~~!!! This was establish a long ass time in the series, if a mindless titan eat a shifter you gain its powers and revert back into a human, remember Ymir? Only if you eat a person that has the coordinate, that is when you can gain there memories. It convenietly affect certain bloodline because who ever created it wanted it to affect a certain race. Hint, hint. Honestly, if you don't pay attention to the series, then when plot elements are revealed it will just sound stupid to you. If you think this part of the series is ridiculous, just wait until you are caught up. If you better understand the overall plot, it will be a lot more clear to you, but if you just mindless read it, it will seem ridiculous to you. Unless you are one of those persons that doesn't like certain plot devices like "mindwipe" for eg. |
keragammingMar 6, 2017 7:08 AM
ItsXolo said: I understand the plot, but the author is clearly is just making up whatever ridiculous rules it takes to keep things moving. So much of it feels completely inorganic and forced. Like he had some good ideas about what he wanted to do in the series, but in order to fill in the gaps to make it to those points, he just came p with whatever ridiculous and convenient thing would get him from point A to point B. I expect that kind of stuff from goofy weekly battle shounen like One Piece and Fairy Tail, but from a monthly series that you're supposed to take seriously, where the author has plenty of time to come up with something good between chapters, it's just lazy. The series is certainly not perfect, it has plot convenience, and some parts can be a bit contrived. And to his defense, he started snk when he was 19. He is now 28 years its his first ever manga, he is still very young. You said it feels like he make up stuff just to move the plot forward. Your opinion on that would hold more weight, if he simple use these plot device to move the plot forward and then drop them without looking back. But that isn't the case, these plot points are vital to the overall series and what he wants to accomplish. Keep in mind, he already planned out the entire story, this is not those type of series where he makes it up as it goes. |
| So Eren knows how to world was created and also knows why the titans exist? Hmm |
| and now Hange was injured!!! |
| He's 100% lying to Historia and no doubt she's gunna believe it, like she believes everything anyone says. And the fight scene was badass, I hope the Levi squad killed at least half of those people. |
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| Great fight scene. Levi's squad is really badass. The mysteries of the world are finally beginning to be explained. |
fluffsnake said: Lol Kenny's plan, gotta laugh at that x) bwahaha, Dat Kenny is an idiot! 4/5. MisterSinister said: Eren will GET OUT SOMEHOW rofl, he needs to pee. let him free already KenniSenpai said: Are these's translations on point? If so: For the 1st time ever, Hanji's gender has been noted. The use of she/her not once but twice. as if the name Zoe wasn't enough of a clue for the character's gender, but the chara never states how they want to be addressed so it's time to use the she i guess keragamming said: if he simple use these plot device to move the plot forward and then drop them without looking back. i can name two of those which makes this manga suck ass. 16yrs old Isayama writes like an edgelord. 1)the coordinate was never use by Eren again, neither touched a royal and turns things in his favor. 2)the Ackermans and their immunity to the cry mind fuckin titan was never put to use and the Asian clan... well, they didn't show up much 😔 what a waste of potential right in the middle |
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