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Nov 26, 2014 11:46 AM

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Anything can happen, you can't prove or disprove anything yet.

-kaneki might be an after effect of sasaki implanting his organ
-sasaki is a brainwashed kaneki
-kaneki has mulitple personalites
-sasaki is kaneki's clone (LOL)

anymore theories?
Nov 26, 2014 12:16 PM
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Tokyo Ghoul Carnaval

http://www.crunchyroll.com/anime-news/2014/11/25-1/tokyo-ghoul-carnaval-game-reportedly-planned-for-smartphones

So Tokyo Ghoul is getting a mobile game. Hmmm at least it's spreading it's horizon.
Nov 26, 2014 1:33 PM

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ichii_1 said:
Anything can happen, you can't prove or disprove anything yet.

-kaneki might be an after effect of sasaki implanting his organ
-sasaki is a brainwashed kaneki
-kaneki has mulitple personalites
-sasaki is kaneki's clone (LOL)

anymore theories?


possible, yes. plausible, no.
"Events that happen in this world are a continuous series of trifling things. And within those myriad pieces of puzzles, there is a fragment that leads to the truth." -Kishou Arima
Nov 26, 2014 1:38 PM

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ichii_1 said:
Anything can happen, you can't prove or disprove anything yet.

-kaneki might be an after effect of sasaki implanting his organ
-sasaki is a brainwashed kaneki
-kaneki has mulitple personalites
-sasaki is kaneki's clone (LOL)

anymore theories?


Wait, people are seriously still debating this? And here I thought chapter 7 would put an end to all this...

Nishiki recognizes him, calls him Kaneki... How would that happen to some random guy with Kaneki's organs? A Kakuhou does not make you look exactly like someone else.

Kaneki recognizes Nishiki back (briefly) and calls him by name. How would a Kaneki clone have any memories of who Nishiki was?

I realize we've all argued this point a million times now but seriously people, Kaneki is alive, give it a rest.
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CNTRI715 said:
ichii_1 said:
Anything can happen, you can't prove or disprove anything yet.

-kaneki might be an after effect of sasaki implanting his organ
-sasaki is a brainwashed kaneki
-kaneki has mulitple personalites
-sasaki is kaneki's clone (LOL)

anymore theories?


Wait, people are seriously still debating this? And here I thought chapter 7 would put an end to all this...

Nishiki recognizes him, calls him Kaneki... How would that happen to some random guy with Kaneki's organs? A Kakuhou does not make you look exactly like someone else.

Kaneki recognizes Nishiki back (briefly) and calls him by name. How would a Kaneki clone have any memories of who Nishiki was?

I realize we've all argued this point a million times now but seriously people, Kaneki is alive, give it a rest.


just ....just let them have it. I'm almost done rereading TG and there are so many flaws with the idea that sasaki is someone else that i could literally throw up at this point. There are way more unanswered things that could be focused on.
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Nov 26, 2014 1:48 PM

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Nishiki would call a Kaneki clone, Kaneki... because he couldn't know that he isn't really Kaneki, but at the same time he is Kaneki because he is a Kaneki clone. So ya, Sasaki is a Kaneki clone.
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im still waiting for black haired suzuya from oneshot joker, i believe its canon material
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Nov 26, 2014 5:46 PM

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Nishiki would call a Kaneki clone, Kaneki... because he couldn't know that he isn't really Kaneki, but at the same time he is Kaneki because he is a Kaneki clone. So ya, Sasaki is a Kaneki clone.


^ this has to be it.

i bet kaneki fuckd his mom and sasaki was born. i know i know wut ur gonna say, hwo could kaneki fuck his mom when he died? Same way goku got goten born.
Nov 26, 2014 8:25 PM

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bromains said:
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Nishiki would call a Kaneki clone, Kaneki... because he couldn't know that he isn't really Kaneki, but at the same time he is Kaneki because he is a Kaneki clone. So ya, Sasaki is a Kaneki clone.


^ this has to be it.

i bet kaneki fuckd his mom and sasaki was born. i know i know wut ur gonna say, hwo could kaneki fuck his mom when he died? Same way goku got goten born.



Yo I laughed out loud at this.. My god kudos .....gokudos? ...Yeah!! Gokudos!!!
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bromains said:
Arcanix said:
Nishiki would call a Kaneki clone, Kaneki... because he couldn't know that he isn't really Kaneki, but at the same time he is Kaneki because he is a Kaneki clone. So ya, Sasaki is a Kaneki clone.


^ this has to be it.

i bet kaneki fuckd his mom and sasaki was born. i know i know wut ur gonna say, hwo could kaneki fuck his mom when he died? Same way goku got goten born.

lol goku
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Okay let me go through this easily for those of you who still are being kinda idiotic.

1: Sasaki's hair is starting to black because of the fact hair grows over time. I know, weird right? Kaneki's hair turned white during the toture by Jason from a syndrome known as Marie Antoinette Syndrome. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Marie_Antoinette_syndrome. It's a condition that happens to a person's hair under extreme stress, and is coined by the Queen Marie event during the French Revolution because her (The captured Queen's) hair turned white during her capture and before her guillotine execution. Kaneki's hair has grown over time since that torture, and the Melatonin that was destroyed by the Syndrome he suffered under torture, is being rejuvenated in his new hair growth because he is no longer under that stress.

2: There is absolutely no evidence that a transplant of the organs provides the images of the prior owners life. This has been debated into the ground because Kaneki saw Rize, not because he had her organs, but because she was the physical representation that Kaneki's mind placed on his "ghoul" side. Note that ever since that scene, and since he accepted his ghoul side, he has never seen Rize in his mind again. Had the organ transplants been the cause, there is no reason why those manifestations would stop just at one point because the organs are still present.

3: Clones have no real place here because there has been nothing supporting the idea of clones in the story thus far. I don't know where this theory even came from because it's based on just spit ball evidence. "It fits so it might work" mentality. So far we've been shown that transplants can happen, that implants of quinque can happen through the Quinx squad, and that ghouls can devour and obtain each other's kagunes. But no where but one line in the end of the first manga that says "We can make more Kaneki's" does a "clone theory" seem reasonable. Even so, that line was said in the Doctor's Lab, which doesn't make sense, had they even cloned a Kaneki, how does the CCG now have a clone?

Sasaki is Kaneki. Can we please just stop trying to force a argument against that simply to "go against the grain"?
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ichii_1 said:
Anything can happen, you can't prove or disprove anything yet.

-kaneki might be an after effect of sasaki implanting his organ
-sasaki is a brainwashed kaneki
-kaneki has mulitple personalites
-sasaki is kaneki's clone (LOL)

anymore theories?


This is the worst post ever, do you even understand the plot?
Nov 27, 2014 6:37 AM

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ma103 said:
This is the worst post ever, do you even understand the plot?

Disprove them then, you can't btw cause there isn't enough information.
Nov 27, 2014 7:44 AM

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ichii_1 said:
ma103 said:
This is the worst post ever, do you even understand the plot?

Disprove them then, you can't btw cause there isn't enough information.


You remind me of a religious person asking me to disprove that a God exists.
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Nov 27, 2014 8:10 AM

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This is like the single most fucking amazing manga chapter ever. You guys should stop making theories out of your ass and wait for the next chapter.
Nov 27, 2014 8:49 AM
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will spoilers for chapter 8 be coming out soon?
Nov 27, 2014 8:56 AM

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Oh you didn't hear? Ishida is on hiatus working on the second season of the anime. We will get next chapter in January.
Nov 27, 2014 8:59 AM
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Oh you didn't hear? Ishida is on hiatus working on the second season of the anime. We will get next chapter in January.


ohhhh thank you, i was not aware!
Nov 27, 2014 9:17 AM

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Oh you didn't hear? Ishida is on hiatus working on the second season of the anime. We will get next chapter in January.


Please tell me you're trolling.

D:

Edit - Nevermind.
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Arcanix said:
Oh you didn't hear? Ishida is on hiatus working on the second season of the anime. We will get next chapter in January.


Wait... really? THIS IS NOT WHAT I NEEDED TO HEAR ON MY THANKSGIVING ARCANIX :,(
Nov 27, 2014 10:32 AM

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Oh you didn't hear? Ishida is on hiatus working on the second season of the anime. We will get next chapter in January.


Wait... really? THIS IS NOT WHAT I NEEDED TO HEAR ON MY THANKSGIVING ARCANIX :,(


According to the mods over at the Tokyo Ghoul subreddit the scan should be released on the 29th of November, but I don't know if they're reliable or not.

Source: http://www.reddit.com/r/TokyoGhoul/comments/2n1lo2/tokyo_ghoulre_ch07_links_and_discussion/
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I run that subreddit
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I run that subreddit


Not sure if trolling on any or all of this -_- Guess I'll have to wait for the 29th.
Nov 27, 2014 10:54 AM

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lol he's joking...
Nov 27, 2014 11:58 AM

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Damn badass Kaneki

Nov 27, 2014 2:55 PM

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I really thought it was all joke around the theory of clones, but this theory is even after the last chapter still quite internationally accredited by the supposed fans, even more than the kakuhou transfers the soul and memories of the former User's life.
HOLY SHIT, SOULS ALONG KAKUHOU TRANSFER

FUCKING RIZE HAS NOW AN HORCRUX
Nov 27, 2014 8:13 PM

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LameReader said:
Acernos said:
I really thought it was all joke around the theory of clones, but this theory is even after the last chapter still quite internationally accredited by the supposed fans, even more than the kakuhou transfers the soul and memories of the former User's life.
HOLY SHIT, SOULS ALONG KAKUHOU TRANSFER

FUCKING RIZE HAS NOW AN HORCRUX


don't be fucking ridculous dude. Rize is the 11 tailed beast and when kaneki was dying because she lured him in to that alley she felt remorse and sealed herself inside of kaneki to save his life, this is why they often chat and he sees her not because shes his "ghoul half?" that shit is unrealsitic.


Anyway i always thought about ghoul investigators attaching a quinque to their body in some way, when they revealed the quinckes squad i thought my vision had been realized but in a different way but now i begin to think, i bet they replaced suzuya leg with a quinque, he had the acrobatics/mobility/talent to make something like a quinque leg work where as most investigators would probably be more suited with a quinque arm.
Nov 27, 2014 10:45 PM
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Disprove them then, you can't btw cause there isn't enough information.


Sasaki IS kaneki as proven in chapter 7 as nishiki recognizes him. Hell, every since the very first chapter of :re, Ishida is already giving us the obvious hint of sasaki's true identity based on his appearance. One's appearance will not change when receiving any organs or sort else kaneki will be looking like rize.

Therefore, if kaneki's "organs" were transplanted to some random dude, the transplantee will NOT look like kaneki.
Nov 28, 2014 1:17 AM

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ma103 said:
ichii_1 said:

Disprove them then, you can't btw cause there isn't enough information.


Sasaki IS kaneki as proven in chapter 7 as nishiki recognizes him. Hell, every since the very first chapter of :re, Ishida is already giving us the obvious hint of sasaki's true identity based on his appearance. One's appearance will not change when receiving any organs or sort else kaneki will be looking like rize.

Therefore, if kaneki's "organs" were transplanted to some random dude, the transplantee will NOT look like kaneki.

But if Sasaki was a Kaneki clone then he would look like Kaneki, Nishiki would recognize him as Kaneki while he isn't actually Kaneki. Your move atheists.
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Nov 28, 2014 3:11 AM

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''Rank 1 investigator Haise Sasaki is a half ghoul, a victim of Kanou, the crazy scientist of aogiri tree, who transplanted the kakuhou into him and turned him into a half ghoul.'' Well this should be enough lol why bringing up clones and and stuff i will never understand...
Nov 28, 2014 4:45 AM
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Sasaki is a clone who inherited the kakuhou from Kaneki, this narration is just to deceive the public, the white kaneki is only a fragment of the soul / will / desire to live from Kaneki, you do not remember that in the original TG Kaneki wake up in the night because of the dreams he had about the childhood of Rize? or every time Kaneki was having problems with a fight, and the Rize materialized and say, "you are weak, Ken .................... I will teach you how to fight "during fights against Amon and Tsukyama?

is the same thing.Sasaki is a Kaneki clone, the reason of the hair color is so only because the Arima want to fool the fans of the series.
Nov 28, 2014 4:50 AM
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last arc - war of the clones.
Nov 28, 2014 5:28 AM
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Arcanix said:

But if Sasaki was a Kaneki clone then he would look like Kaneki, Nishiki would recognize him as Kaneki while he isn't actually Kaneki. Your move atheists.


Don't meant to be lazy but this quote from the latest chapter should end the argument of Sasaki being Kaneki's clone.
asdlolxd_ said:
''Rank 1 investigator Haise Sasaki is a half ghoul, a victim of Kanou, the crazy scientist of aogiri tree, who transplanted the kakuhou into him and turned him into a half ghoul.'' Well this should be enough lol why bringing up clones and and stuff i will never understand...
Nov 28, 2014 5:35 AM

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ma103 said:
Arcanix said:

But if Sasaki was a Kaneki clone then he would look like Kaneki, Nishiki would recognize him as Kaneki while he isn't actually Kaneki. Your move atheists.


Don't meant to be lazy but this quote from the latest chapter should end the argument of Sasaki being Kaneki's clone.
asdlolxd_ said:
''Rank 1 investigator Haise Sasaki is a half ghoul, a victim of Kanou, the crazy scientist of aogiri tree, who transplanted the kakuhou into him and turned him into a half ghoul.'' Well this should be enough lol why bringing up clones and and stuff i will never understand...



Bullshit, that was CCG's way to throw us of our game.
Nov 28, 2014 5:43 AM

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Arcanix said:
ma103 said:


Don't meant to be lazy but this quote from the latest chapter should end the argument of Sasaki being Kaneki's clone.



Bullshit, that was CCG's way to throw us of our game.


I know, right? How come people aren't seeing this? It's blatantly obvious that Kaneki is dead.
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CCG knows that the world in which they live is a manga, and are preparing to rebel against Ishida, so the clones are being created.
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ma103 said:


Don't meant to be lazy but this quote from the latest chapter should end the argument of Sasaki being Kaneki's clone.



Bullshit, that was CCG's way to throw us of our game.


Sorry, I was caught off guard. damn you CCG (ishida)
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Whoever did this will most likely confuse the fuck out of some already confused new readers.



Seriously lol
Nov 28, 2014 9:23 AM
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Whoever did this will most likely confuse the fuck out of some already confused new readers.



Seriously lol


is someone gonna fix this
Nov 28, 2014 9:28 AM

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But it should be right, since the four stooges and sasaki are the main focus of the new series :(
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But it should be right, since the four stooges and sasaki are the main focus of the new series :(


Kaneki, Ken/Sasaki, Haise would be a lot less confusing than listing them as two separate characters..
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But it should be right, since the four stooges and sasaki are the main focus of the new series :(


Kaneki, Ken/Sasaki, Haise would be a lot less confusing than listing them as two separate characters..

Yeah now imagine new readers with their own clone theories.. *sigh*
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Z4k said:
Whoever did this will most likely confuse the fuck out of some already confused new readers.



Seriously lol


*facepalm* And this explains why so many confused people come on here (besides the trolls) At least the TG wiki finally combined the Kaneki and Sasaki pages.
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Z4k said:
Whoever did this will most likely confuse the fuck out of some already confused new readers.



Seriously lol


Well, Kaneki has two different personalities due to his memory loss/manipulation, and he also has 2 names so he's technically 2 different people, at least in the mean time. :D
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Kaneki is alove inside Sasaki, that finger cracking!!! But Sasaki should be 'quarter'-ghoul as Kaneki himself was half.

So Nishio's an S-class ghoul now...
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Kaneki is alove inside Sasaki, that finger cracking!!! But Sasaki should be 'quarter'-ghoul as Kaneki himself was half.

So Nishio's an S-class ghoul now...

Please tell me you're not serious
Nov 29, 2014 9:39 AM
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Sasaki = Clare .

this is new.
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Z4k said:
cloud2313 said:
Kaneki is alove inside Sasaki, that finger cracking!!! But Sasaki should be 'quarter'-ghoul as Kaneki himself was half.

So Nishio's an S-class ghoul now...

Please tell me you're not serious
Plot twist: Sasaki is Kaneki child who came back in past as a CCG member using time machine. XD
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i think ishida will show us that later on, this series is actually a crossover with naruto and Sasaki is the nine-tailed fox naruto!
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