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Aug 2, 2014 11:14 AM
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I see a lot of posts claiming that he isn't, but, without him, lots of things would turn out differently.

He had little screentime, but managed to do a lot nonetheless, namely:

1- He won the round in Trick Tower for Kurapika, which was surely going to disqualify them.
-Without that, none of them would become hunters, which would make it impossible for Kurapika to pursue that job as a bodyguard since he wouldn't be exposed to Nen.
-Gon and Killua wouldn't be able to loan their card -which they wouldnt have- to participate in yorknew.

2- he got them invovled in the spider manhunt business, which caused them to get kidnapped
3- He relayed that massage about the blackout, causing Danchou to get kidnapped, contributing to the arc's resolution.


He may not have had a flashy central role, but he greatly affected the arcs he's in.
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Aug 2, 2014 11:26 AM
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People tend to judge something useful or not when it take the central role/event or not.

It's just how racing goes, the most notable is the rider and the bike, while the guide and informant and the mechanics or engineers always being ignored.

Leorio always got his spot to shine (especially in 99), but even it actually useful, it's not so "bang" that people tend to ignore it.

Despite his limited ability and strength, he still can keep up with the situation and react well, that's what i like from him. One of the great of normal character.
Aug 2, 2014 11:40 AM
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Who's Leorio?
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Kellhus said:
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there is a limit to the suspension of disbelief

And it's the fan that did it. Not the smoking porn reading rubik cube genius rape ape with a magic boat.
Aug 2, 2014 11:42 AM
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Who's Leorio?

He's Gon's actual father
I've been here way too long...
Aug 2, 2014 11:52 AM
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TheConquerer said:
Sapewloth said:
Who's Leorio?

He's Gon's actual father

Appropriate reaction.
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Kellhus said:
GuusWayne said:
there is a limit to the suspension of disbelief

And it's the fan that did it. Not the smoking porn reading rubik cube genius rape ape with a magic boat.
Aug 2, 2014 11:57 AM
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Sapewloth said:
TheConquerer said:

He's Gon's actual father

Appropriate reaction.


Oh God..
I've been here way too long...
Aug 2, 2014 12:23 PM
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I think it's the same as Sakura Haruno from Naruto or every characters that isn't Kirito in SAO. People don't say they're useless in a way that they don't play any role to play, it's just that it is ridiculous in comparison to their status. I mean compare Leorio's role to Kurapika's...
Aug 2, 2014 12:33 PM
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Sakura was practically useless that she had to be shoehorned into a flashy fight in order to feel relevant (Sasori), where the main conflict was between him and chiyo. Even story-wise.

Leorio's role isn't small compared to Kurapika. Just more... Indirect. But let's compare him where they were directly compared: Trick Tower; Leorio succeeded where Kurapika had failed.
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The beginning I have to admit Leorio really didn't do anything worthwhile but you need that comedic somewhat useless characters. He's also a doctor so I'm surprised his role wasn't used that much. Hopefully Togashi gives him a important role for the current arc.

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judals said:
Sakura was practically useless that she had to be shoehorned into a flashy fight in order to feel relevant (Sasori), where the main conflict was between him and chiyo. Even story-wise.

Leorio's role isn't small compared to Kurapika. Just more... Indirect. But let's compare him where they were directly compared: Trick Tower; Leorio succeeded where Kurapika had failed.


You could also say that Leorio was shoehorned in Yorkshin. Kurapika's vendetta and Gon looking for Greed Island weren't his problems either.

And Leorio also failed against the pink-haired beauty in Trick Tower.
Aug 2, 2014 12:56 PM

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Leorio is such a gentleman

(I need to watch those damn movies)
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Kellhus said:
GuusWayne said:
there is a limit to the suspension of disbelief

And it's the fan that did it. Not the smoking porn reading rubik cube genius rape ape with a magic boat.
Aug 2, 2014 1:01 PM

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Leorio always change his ouftits (shirt and tie) in the manga and in the 99 version:
http://img3.wikia.nocookie.net/__cb20120614120009/hunterxhunter/images/e/e1/Leorio_calling_Kurapika.jpg

http://img2.wikia.nocookie.net/__cb20120819103751/hunterxhunter/images/3/3d/1st_op_kurapika_and_leorio.png

http://images.wikia.com/hunterxhunter/images/c/cb/Leorio.jpg

But in the 2011, Madhouse always keep the same except in the election arc. And Madhouse skipped some Leorio's good moments.
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SetsukoHara said:
judals said:
Sakura was practically useless that she had to be shoehorned into a flashy fight in order to feel relevant (Sasori), where the main conflict was between him and chiyo. Even story-wise.

Leorio's role isn't small compared to Kurapika. Just more... Indirect. But let's compare him where they were directly compared: Trick Tower; Leorio succeeded where Kurapika had failed.


You could also say that Leorio was shoehorned in Yorkshin. Kurapika's vendetta and Gon looking for Greed Island weren't his problems either.

And Leorio also failed against the pink-haired beauty in Trick Tower.


He only lost 50 hours while helped them save 75, and ultimately... A win. Huge difference.


And no, to be shoehorned is to take the spot light just to prove he's not useless. Sakura was just intrusive, having a major fight probably just because fans complained she was useless.
Although I doubt she was the best healer available so even without the fight she'd still be shoe-horned.


Leorio now... It wasn't his problem, (but his friends')and so he was an "indirect factor". You don't see him going 1v1 with nobunaga prove he's badass. His Contribution was proportional to his reasons involvement... And capabilities.
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@Guilek Seems like they focused all their efforts on Killua in terms of bitching outfits:

And they kinda let the others behind. A shame really, cause I really wanted to see 2011 Kurapika int that red outfit of his:

And seeing different ties and shirts for Leorio would've been neat, too. (don't care about Gon, lol)
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Kellhus said:
GuusWayne said:
there is a limit to the suspension of disbelief

And it's the fan that did it. Not the smoking porn reading rubik cube genius rape ape with a magic boat.
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It look they focused efforts to Pariston and Illumi too. Hope to see more Pariston's suits. :p
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Guilek said:
It look they focused efforts to Pariston and Illumi too. Hope to see more Pariston's suits. :p


I already had it enough with that gold sparkling suit. --
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It look they focused efforts to Pariston and Illumi too. Hope to see more Pariston's suits. :p


I already had it enough with that gold sparkling suit. --
I love things that shine, so no way I'm ever gonna grow tired of the sparkling suits, but it would indeed be great to more of his wardrobe.
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Kellhus said:
GuusWayne said:
there is a limit to the suspension of disbelief

And it's the fan that did it. Not the smoking porn reading rubik cube genius rape ape with a magic boat.
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Even if he was considered useless, he's redeemed now.

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The only time Leorio's really been "of use" in the anime was during Trick Tower, and even then he ended up failing some stuff. I suppose opening the Zoldyck gate could count, too. More recently he... well, you know. :p

I don't think it's so much that he's useless as it is he's barely had any screentime compared to the other MCs. To be honest, even though he's part of the main team, he's almost been like a side character up until now. Unless they base an arc around him too (a la Yorknew for Kurapika and Election for Killua), I don't think that's going to change. His importance in a meta sense just isn't as great.

Don't get me wrong, I really like Leorio. He just hasn't had much time in the spotlight.
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SetsukoHara said:
I think it's the same as Sakura Haruno from Naruto or every characters that isn't Kirito in SAO. People don't say they're useless in a way that they don't play any role to play, it's just that it is ridiculous in comparison to their status. I mean compare Leorio's role to Kurapika's...

What did Leroio do though, compared to Sakura?

Chunnin exam roles compared to Hunter exams. Sakura protected Sasuke and Naruto. Leorio rode the back of his friends, and eventually won in the last exam by pure luck.

I don't think this is the case of status comparison. Leorio is just really without a purpose or use


And there is nothing more shoehorned that his new nen ability...

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He's kind of an audience stand in I find. Like the type of reactions he has. Punching Ging and just his reaction to some of the more over the top things the other three get upto. It's nice to see that, and its pretty relatable.

Also the comments here are so predictable. Some people have decided they'd hate him no matter what lol, can't change minds
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He's kind of an audience stand in I find. Like the type of reactions he has. Punching Ging and just his reaction to some of the more over the top things the other three get upto. It's nice to see that, and its pretty relatable.

That's an interesting way to look at it, and might be true especially in Ging's case.
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He may not be "useful", but this anime certainly downplayed him quite a bit, in comparison the manga:

Opening the 24,000-lbs Zoldyck testing gates on his own (2 gates), instead of through teamwork just to push 8,000-lbs (1 gate w/ Gon & Kurapika)..
(somewhat cliché nakama stuff in the anime, although it makes sense if they're trying to make it to Killua even faster)

Didn't get to see him haggling skillfully to acquire for Gon & Killua their Beatle 07 cellphones..

Easily breaking a body-building giant's arm in arm-wrestling (as a gambling strategy for finding more valuable ways to gamble)..

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Leorio is such a gentleman
(I need to watch those damn movies)
No, you don't. At least, not the one the image depicts. But, they're both very typical shonen films.

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(They already skip one of pariston's suit.They use the blue one x2 but in the mangas it isn't the same:
http://z.mhcdn.net/store/manga/44/28-321.0/compressed/n321.01.jpg?v=11319066599
http://z.mhcdn.net/store/manga/44/28-323.0/compressed/j323.17.jpg?v=11320232995 )
I can mainly see that the tie is different. What would that have been? A red shirt this time? A purple shirt? Green?

Big whoop.
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The only time Leorio's really been "of use" in the anime was during Trick Tower, and even then he ended up failing some stuff. I supposing opening the Zoldyck gate could count, too. More recently he... well, you know. :p

I don't think it's so much that he's useless as it is he's barely had any screentime compared to the other MCs. To be honest, even though he's part of the main team, he's almost been like a side character up until now. Unless they base an arc around him too (a la Yorknew for Kurapika and Election for Killua), I don't think that's going to change. His importance in a meta sense just isn't as great.

Don't get me wrong, I really like Leorio. He just hasn't had much time in the spotlight.


That's not really the only time.
Like I said without him, they'd not find a way to be involved with the soiders, and Kurapika wouldn't be able to kidnap Chrollo without Leorio sending the message to Gon and Killu which caused tbe distraction.
So, for someone who appeared in two arcs so far, he's been quite a ''main" in both. Just not a flashy one.
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I think being the normal, caring guy of the group is his main character trait. Power and intelligence wise he can't be compared to other characters. Maybe he'll have a bigger role in the future.

He used the arm wrestling to lure in tbe mafia to get them to be involved in the black market auctions... He literally used Kil and Gon...how's that not smart?
Even Killua admitted he underestimated him when they were looking up on the internet some mafia-related thing I forgot lol
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People have given good points on what makes Leorio useful. Sure he's not a dominating presence most of the time but he's shown he brings stuff to the table. Leorio is however supposed to be the "normal" one. Much like Kuwabara. He's talented but not like the other three, he's meant to the normal guy that hangs out with these really extraordinary people. So yeah he kind of gets overshadowed.
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leorio is my favorite in hxh, he is very fun. he is like kuwabara of the group
and no one could hate leorio after "fuck you ging" punch :p and later on. leorio is best buddy ever
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He's. . . useless but he's kindhearted and all
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He helped capture Chrollo
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No, he's a waste of a character.
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No, he's a waste of a character.


Someone hasn't been watching the show.
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Leorio is the Kuwabara of HxH. I don't think he will ever be as relevant as the other three.
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Leorio is the Kuwabara of HxH. I don't think he will ever be as relevant as the other three.


Um... Expect in this arc. Where he is one of the more popular figures in the Association. And was the reason the ballots finally exceeded 95%.
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Leorio is the Kuwabara of HxH. I don't think he will ever be as relevant as the other three.


Um... Expect in this arc. Where he is one of the more popular figures in the Association. And was the reason the ballots finally exceeded 95%.


You're right. ^^; I tend to forget him when talking about this arc.
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Um... Expect in this arc. Where he is one of the more popular figures in the Association. And was the reason the ballots finally exceeded 95%.


You're right. ^^; I tend to forget him when talking about this arc.


Why? He's one of the highlights of this arc, imo.
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You're right. ^^; I tend to forget him when talking about this arc.


Why? He's one of the highlights of this arc, imo.

Personal preference I guess. Leorio is one of my least favorites among the candidates. This is an election, not a nice guy contest. The only reason I'm ok with him getting votes is because it's Ging's plan to stop Pariston.
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Since the begining I always felt like he is the Sakura of hxh and it has continued to be that way for me. I do hope we get to see some awesome nen power from him at some point tho I might change my mind.
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Since the begining I always felt like he is the Sakura of hxh and it has continued to be that way for me. I do hope we get to see some awesome nen power from him at some point tho I might change my mind.


And yet he's s third for chairmen and one of the most well liked in the association. Yeah very Sakura like.
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lalabella said:
Since the begining I always felt like he is the Sakura of hxh and it has continued to be that way for me. I do hope we get to see some awesome nen power from him at some point tho I might change my mind.


And yet he's s third for chairmen and one of the most well liked in the association. Yeah very Sakura like.


Yeah but will that lead to anything tho ?
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lalabella said:
bleachjoj said:


And yet he's s third for chairmen and one of the most well liked in the association. Yeah very Sakura like.


Yeah but will that lead to anything tho ?

Yes, if you've been following the manga, you'll know that what happens to him in this arc will influence what happens in the DC arc.

Manga spoiler:
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Since the begining I always felt like he is the Sakura of hxh and it has continued to be that way for me. I do hope we get to see some awesome nen power from him at some point tho I might change my mind.

Uhhh
I see a lot of posts claiming that he isn't, but, without him, lots of things would turn out differently.

He had little screentime, but managed to do a lot nonetheless, namely:

1- He won the round in Trick Tower for Kurapika, which was surely going to disqualify them.
-Without that, none of them would become hunters, which would make it impossible for Kurapika to pursue that job as a bodyguard since he wouldn't be exposed to Nen.
-Gon and Killua wouldn't be able to loan their card -which they wouldnt have- to participate in yorknew.

2- he got them invovled in the spider manhunt business, which caused them to get kidnapped
3- He relayed that massage about the blackout, causing Danchou to get kidnapped, contributing to the arc's resolution.


He may not have had a flashy central role, but he greatly affected the arcs he's in.

Read more at http://myanimelist.net/forum/?topicid=1239143&show=0#9ABxvSIWxTWbOQGW.99


What makes him the'Sakura' despite all he's done?
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lalabella said:


Yeah but will that lead to anything tho ?

Yes, if you've been following the manga, you'll know that what happens to him in this arc will influence what happens in the DC arc.

Manga spoiler:


Oh I don't read the manga but nice.
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lalabella said:
Since the begining I always felt like he is the Sakura of hxh and it has continued to be that way for me. I do hope we get to see some awesome nen power from him at some point tho I might change my mind.

Uhhh
I see a lot of posts claiming that he isn't, but, without him, lots of things would turn out differently.

He had little screentime, but managed to do a lot nonetheless, namely:

1- He won the round in Trick Tower for Kurapika, which was surely going to disqualify them.
-Without that, none of them would become hunters, which would make it impossible for Kurapika to pursue that job as a bodyguard since he wouldn't be exposed to Nen.
-Gon and Killua wouldn't be able to loan their card -which they wouldnt have- to participate in yorknew.

2- he got them invovled in the spider manhunt business, which caused them to get kidnapped
3- He relayed that massage about the blackout, causing Danchou to get kidnapped, contributing to the arc's resolution.


He may not have had a flashy central role, but he greatly affected the arcs he's in.

Read more at http://myanimelist.net/forum/?topicid=1239143&show=0#9ABxvSIWxTWbOQGW.99


What makes him the'Sakura' despite all he's done?


Well it's not like Sakura is completely unimportant for all the events in Naruto either. I'm not trying to say they're useless but at least to me less important than the other main characters.
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lalabella said:
Since the begining I always felt like he is the Sakura of hxh and it has continued to be that way for me. I do hope we get to see some awesome nen power from him at some point tho I might change my mind.


And yet he's s third for chairmen and one of the most well liked in the association. Yeah very Sakura like.


They both like to punch people.. though!
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I guess you're right

Though sakura never really did anything tbh (except that forced Sasori fight)
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Leorio useful? Just for talks because in ability he's too weak compared to the other 3 main characters.

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