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gedata said: keragamming said: SolBlade said: keragamming said: tsudecimo said: keragamming said: Question. Will Phantom Troupe be in this arc? or after this arc ends? I don't read the manga btw. No. So when will they be back???? When Togashi decides to get back to work. Well that's disappointing...... :( Yorknew city is my favorite arc, and I guess it'll remain that way. how would it make any sense if they just popped in right in the middle of the big climax? I did also said after this arc ends..... |
| Thank you for saving Shoot Knov !!!!!!! OMG Pouf what are doing there??? Youpi transforms in next week : 0 |
keragamming said: I did also said after this arc ends..... If Togashi ever decides to release another chapter, I think there's a high chance of getting some Troupe and Kurapika panel time again. Too bad it's never gonna happen ;_; |
| I liked how the parallels of "there never was a real one" was used as an opening for Knuckle and lol @ Pouf's one-man army of trolls. With the way things have been progressing, I think Bizef's thought process during his piggyback ride contributes to the loss of faith in humanity. "If I'm captured by the federation, they'll force me to confess for a cover story and throw me in prison for life or they'll execute me, so I can't talk" doesn't sound very different from the cruel behavior of the ants at the beginning of the arc and Bizef, himself, was already a lost cause to begin with in regard to his "personal assistants". Zeno ended up attacking an innocent bystander, which was accidental, but doesn't help the argument for humanity either and made him question himself enough to call it quits. Most importantly, you have Gon who is so far gone (lol) that he can only be portrayed with cold, lifeless eyes at the moment and by extension, Killua reverting back to his primal instincts against Youpi to release the stress of possibly losing his best friend. Conversely, the ant king has become humanized through his love of Komugi and the royal guards have followed suit through their love for the king. Not to mention, Meleoron was overflowing with tears when he wasn't able to help Shoot and IkalBro is too afraid to really go in for the kill. Some interesting stuff here, Togashi. |
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Lanvidia said: keragamming said: I did also said after this arc ends..... If Togashi ever decides to release another chapter, I think there's a high chance of getting some Troupe and Kurapika panel time again. Too bad it's never gonna happen ;_; Well we can't lose hope yet, let's hope Togashi will continue the manga very soon, even I want to see more of Kurapika since he's my favorite character ( the spider arc is the best arc in my opinion). :) |
| Dammit, Morel!! I can't believe you let that drama queen steal your pipe! (╯°□°）╯︵ ┻━┻ Grateful to Knov for saving Shoot! Now he'll be patched up and good to go in time for our wedding. :-) |
Hannah_AnaMar 11, 2014 5:29 PM
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| That's not Yupi's final form. |
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| Knov, you're awesome. he saved Shoot. Will Pouf listen to Pitou? I'm excited for the next episode. |
Albi-kun said: Knov, you're awesome. he saved Shoot. Yeah, not really. If he wasn't such a coward, Shoot would probably never be in that state to begin with. |
SetsukoHara said: Albi-kun said: Knov, you're awesome. he saved Shoot. Yeah, not really. If he wasn't such a coward, Shoot would probably never be in that state to begin with. Probably not, the original plan was for Knov to team with Morel to fight Pouf. |
| "Yes, I have been deprived of emotion. But not completely. Whoever did it, botched the job." - Geralt of Rivia |
| This episode had nice amount of action. However, my favorite part of this episode was the ending. You know that something is about to go down. This episode was not a let down for me. |
MCAL said: SetsukoHara said: Pitou learned a lot about Nen from his umm... brain probing... of Pokkle, but no exact confirmation, but I wouldn't say it was unlikely.HomeAlone said: Monad said: What Pouf did seems stupid to me. Aren't the royal guards a lot more powerful than their enemies? Why waste time stealing the pipe and throwing it at sea when she sneaked behind him instead of just smashing his head and ending everything there? . You forgot that he was trapped in Morel's Jail. His nen could have strengthened after his death, same for the clones who were already created. Does Pouf even know that? Serious question, cause I don't remember. Are you people on drugs? She wasn't in his smoky jail at all when what i said happened and no one seems to correct the guy who answered me.. |
| Pouf doesn't want to fight, he wants to go to the king as fast as he can so he just took his weapon and left and pouf's the weakest physically so morel can keep up for a few minutes. |
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| Hmm a decent episode. The ending was really good. I absolutely love how Knuckle got that hit in which totally surprised me. That's how you attack! And I like the fact that Pitou told Pouf not to come any closer, such intensity and then that look Pouf gave Pitou was a nice touch. I really want to know what Pouf will do. I mean he can only gain from such a situation, it'll be two of the royal guards against Gon and Komugi will end up dead. Pouf truly has no reason not too intervene, but ahhh yes its the King's order so that's it right there. And of course I didn't like the lack of Killua in this episode :/ |
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Monad said: MCAL said: SetsukoHara said: Pitou learned a lot about Nen from his umm... brain probing... of Pokkle, but no exact confirmation, but I wouldn't say it was unlikely.HomeAlone said: Monad said: What Pouf did seems stupid to me. Aren't the royal guards a lot more powerful than their enemies? Why waste time stealing the pipe and throwing it at sea when she sneaked behind him instead of just smashing his head and ending everything there? . You forgot that he was trapped in Morel's Jail. His nen could have strengthened after his death, same for the clones who were already created. Does Pouf even know that? Serious question, cause I don't remember. Are you people on drugs? She wasn't in his smoky jail at all when what i said happened and no one seems to correct the guy who answered me.. Pouf's move was the best possible choice for him. It wasn't stupid at all. "Aren't the royal guards a lot more powerful than their enemies?" Even if that is true, that is only noticeable from a third person view. The royal guards nor the elite hunters are not dumb. They are always considering the worst case scenario and is always opting for the lowest risk choice which would benefit their main objective. Pouf didn't know what else Morel was capable of. There's a chance that Morel could react faster and defend his attack from behind resulting to a battle which he is trying to avoid. He doesn't want to fight Morel because even if he wins, it would waste a lot of his time and it might be too late before he finds the king. The king is always his first priority. He decided to steal Morel's pipe because he thought that it was essential to Morel's smoke-creating ability which he did confirm after seeing Morel not creating any more clones when battling Youpi. That's what I like about HxH. The characters actually uses their brains instead of just rushing and hitting the enemy. Also they don't explain their powers to the enemy unlike any other shounen battle manga. |
| This better not be the only thing Pouf can do. |
| Pouf's beelzebub ability is quite useful and weird. Morel got his pipe stolen. Knov saved Shoot. Pouf has now showed up to Pitou and Gon. The preview looks good. |
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| This is the least disappointing episode I've watched in a long time, dare I say it, I really enjoyed it. Still think all of you guys/gals pining over the non existent "strategy" and "psychological" battles* need to get your heads checked. *Okay I'll admit there was an above average amount for any show in this episode but still nothing to cry home about. |
-MgZ_ said: Pouf's move was the best possible choice for him. It wasn't stupid at all. "Aren't the royal guards a lot more powerful than their enemies?" Even if that is true, that is only noticeable from a third person view. The royal guards nor the elite hunters are not dumb. They are always considering the worst case scenario and is always opting for the lowest risk choice which would benefit their main objective. Pouf didn't know what else Morel was capable of. There's a chance that Morel could react faster and defend his attack from behind resulting to a battle which he is trying to avoid. He doesn't want to fight Morel because even if he wins, it would waste a lot of his time and it might be too late before he finds the king. The king is always his first priority. He decided to steal Morel's pipe because he thought that it was essential to Morel's smoke-creating ability which he did confirm after seeing Morel not creating any more clones when battling Youpi. That's what I like about HxH. The characters actually uses their brains instead of just rushing and hitting the enemy. Also they don't explain their powers to the enemy unlike any other shounen battle manga. That doesn't make one modicum of sense. It wouldn't have taken anything from his time, to kill Morel. The best scenario and least risky one, was to kill Morel with a fast attack, since Morel might interfere in the future. I think Morel was supposed to die, but Togashi didn't carry it out and changed his mind or he really just likes not to finish battles. There is no reason for Morel not to die in this situation. |
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| Pouf's new form, i think its not cloning, its more like dividing himself into smaller parts... and his "clones" giving us an overview of what's happening around... pretty much a decent episode... hope will see the match between Netero and the King soon... |
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Valaskjalf said: Nah, there's at least one more thing he can do, if I recall...This better not be the only thing Pouf can do. >: ) |
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| i wonder why Pitou stop Pouf from attacking Gon |
j0x said: i wonder why Pitou stop Pouf from attacking Gon It's been answered several times in this thread. |
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JamalKing said: This is the least disappointing episode I've watched in a long time, dare I say it, I really enjoyed it. Still think all of you guys/gals pining over the non existent "strategy" and "psychological" battles* need to get your heads checked. *Okay I'll admit there was an above average amount for any show in this episode but still nothing to cry home about. These words would actually have weight if you weren't a code geass fan. If someone claims to be unable to see the strategy, it doesn't make it nonexistent. It's like being unable to solve an equation and claiming it's wrong. |
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| MgZ that's not the case, it's more of a "let's keep him alive for interrogation in case he had used a "persistent" ability on the king and might endanger him. Somewhat crippling him is better than killing him. Persistent as in smoke jail, hakoware, hotel rafsomething, judgement chain, genthru's countdown, etc... Pouf unlike the others has no idea what's going on, being confined and all, so he needs to be cautious. |
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judals said: JamalKing said: This is the least disappointing episode I've watched in a long time, dare I say it, I really enjoyed it. Still think all of you guys/gals pining over the non existent "strategy" and "psychological" battles* need to get your heads checked. *Okay I'll admit there was an above average amount for any show in this episode but still nothing to cry home about. These words would actually have weight if you weren't a code geass fan. If someone claims to be unable to see the strategy, it doesn't make it nonexistent. It's like being unable to solve an equation and claiming it's wrong. Nah you've got it wrong, I can see what many are perceiving to be godlike levels of intelligence and strategy. But it's not. |
JamalKing said: judals said: JamalKing said: This is the least disappointing episode I've watched in a long time, dare I say it, I really enjoyed it. Still think all of you guys/gals pining over the non existent "strategy" and "psychological" battles* need to get your heads checked. *Okay I'll admit there was an above average amount for any show in this episode but still nothing to cry home about. These words would actually have weight if you weren't a code geass fan. If someone claims to be unable to see the strategy, it doesn't make it nonexistent. It's like being unable to solve an equation and claiming it's wrong. Nah you've got it wrong, I can see what many are perceiving to be godlike levels of intelligence and strategy. But it's not. Nobody said it's godlike, but it's still very intelligent and strategic. At the very least, much more than any other shonen or and outside of shonen (to shows with same concerns). |
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| People seem to forget the occasional back and forth reports to Pouf regarding Morel's clones in the second act of this arc. He and Pitou both learned about Knov and Morel and some of their abilities from Hagya, Cheetu, Flutter, and whatever stuff Hagya told Lobster and Welfin that may or may not be true. |
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tsudecimo said: -MgZ_ said: Pouf's move was the best possible choice for him. It wasn't stupid at all. "Aren't the royal guards a lot more powerful than their enemies?" Even if that is true, that is only noticeable from a third person view. The royal guards nor the elite hunters are not dumb. They are always considering the worst case scenario and is always opting for the lowest risk choice which would benefit their main objective. Pouf didn't know what else Morel was capable of. There's a chance that Morel could react faster and defend his attack from behind resulting to a battle which he is trying to avoid. He doesn't want to fight Morel because even if he wins, it would waste a lot of his time and it might be too late before he finds the king. The king is always his first priority. He decided to steal Morel's pipe because he thought that it was essential to Morel's smoke-creating ability which he did confirm after seeing Morel not creating any more clones when battling Youpi. That's what I like about HxH. The characters actually uses their brains instead of just rushing and hitting the enemy. Also they don't explain their powers to the enemy unlike any other shounen battle manga. That doesn't make one modicum of sense. It wouldn't have taken anything from his time, to kill Morel. The best scenario and least risky one, was to kill Morel with a fast attack, since Morel might interfere in the future. I think Morel was supposed to die, but Togashi didn't carry it out and changed his mind or he really just likes not to finish battles. There is no reason for Morel not to die in this situation. I don't think pouf can smash morel head with just one punch... it's just like killua vs youpi... killua can hit youpi as many as he want but no damage to youpi... |
| Are you seriously comparing someone as strong as Youpi to Morel who is just a mere human? Not to forget the fact that Pouf is probably stronger than Killua. |
tsudecimoMar 12, 2014 7:30 AM
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JamalKing said: judals said: JamalKing said: This is the least disappointing episode I've watched in a long time, dare I say it, I really enjoyed it. Still think all of you guys/gals pining over the non existent "strategy" and "psychological" battles* need to get your heads checked. *Okay I'll admit there was an above average amount for any show in this episode but still nothing to cry home about. These words would actually have weight if you weren't a code geass fan. If someone claims to be unable to see the strategy, it doesn't make it nonexistent. It's like being unable to solve an equation and claiming it's wrong. Nah you've got it wrong, I can see what many are perceiving to be godlike levels of intelligence and strategy. But it's not. You think it makes you smarter or better insulting those who like the strategy part of HxH? It doesn't matter if some people might exaggerate about it, the strategy is still there and you could have expressed your disagreement about the exaggeration differently. |
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judals said: JamalKing said: This is the least disappointing episode I've watched in a long time, dare I say it, I really enjoyed it. Still think all of you guys/gals pining over the non existent "strategy" and "psychological" battles* need to get your heads checked. *Okay I'll admit there was an above average amount for any show in this episode but still nothing to cry home about. These words would actually have weight if you weren't a code geass fan. If someone claims to be unable to see the strategy, it doesn't make it nonexistent. It's like being unable to solve an equation and claiming it's wrong. That's a pretty fallacious argument, what does Code Geass' intelligence or lack thereof have to do with Hunter x Hunter? He never even claimed that CG was super intelligent or anything |
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gedata said: judals said: JamalKing said: This is the least disappointing episode I've watched in a long time, dare I say it, I really enjoyed it. Still think all of you guys/gals pining over the non existent "strategy" and "psychological" battles* need to get your heads checked. *Okay I'll admit there was an above average amount for any show in this episode but still nothing to cry home about. These words would actually have weight if you weren't a code geass fan. If someone claims to be unable to see the strategy, it doesn't make it nonexistent. It's like being unable to solve an equation and claiming it's wrong. That's a pretty fallacious argument, what does Code Geass' intelligence or lack thereof have to do with Hunter x Hunter? He never even claimed that CG was super intelligent or anything It has everything to do with it. It shows a lack of credibility. For someone to argue about strategy, going as far as attacking people, while he shows a very poor example of what he considers strategic. And that series is the only showing on his side of what his view is like, if not that, what am I supposed to take in? He sure lacked any coherent thoughts and only demonstrated his dismay toward others who considered it strategic, and that they "need to get their heads checked". If you're being vague, don't complain that people actually gave a thought and tried to dig around to get your view. (Which subsequently turned out to be disappointing) |
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| While I always liked that developement in the manga, I never was really satisfied with it. Like someone stated, Morel may be real badass expierenced, but Pouf still should be a LOT stronger than him and therefore I always thought he should "just" have defeated him. Just because Pouf never really does something that makes him seem superstrong like Pitou or Youpi, he still is a Royal Guard and stronger then all the humans that have invaded (except for Netero and MAYBE Zeno). Gon's oh-so-scary stare wouldn't help at all if Pouf were to attack him. |
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JamalKing said: I'm not insulting anybody, just stating what I see :) Reread this.... "Still think all of you guys/gals pining over the non existent "strategy" and "psychological" battles* need to get your heads checked." If you still don't think you are insulting people who have different opinion than yours... Then there are 2 possibilities: 1) You are trolling 2)You don't understand what an insult is. Case No2 can be easily explained for you... Case No1 will lead into ignoring you... |
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Kuchenlight said: While I always liked that developement in the manga, I never was really satisfied with it. Like someone stated, Morel may be real badass expierenced, but Pouf still should be a LOT stronger than him and therefore I always thought he should "just" have defeated him. Just because Pouf never really does something that makes him seem superstrong like Pitou or Youpi, he still is a Royal Guard and stronger then all the humans that have invaded (except for Netero and MAYBE Zeno). Gon's oh-so-scary stare wouldn't help at all if Pouf were to attack him. He only had one shot. One hit. After that Morel AND his clones would react. If he were to attack directly, he'd have to finish him off with 1 hit. In case you haven't noticed, in order to sneak up on someone, you'd at least need to conceal your nen with zetsu, at least until the stealth is done. So nen force is out the window. What else do we have? He could have snapped his neck, but is he fast enough to grab him without morel reacting? I don't know. He could have attacked with aura at the last second, but we have nothing to show his offensive capabilities. All his abilities are for a larger scope, and all are indirect. Another reason might be that he did not want to kill him; they'd keep him alive for information. |
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bangbng11 said: One Piece > Hunter x Hunter. When it comes to intelligent fights. please no one else respond to this |
gedataMar 12, 2014 10:32 AM
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gedata said: bangbng11 said: One Piece > Hunter x Hunter. When it comes to intelligent fights. please no one respond to this You just did... You lose :P |
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tsudecimo said: . That doesn't make one modicum of sense. It wouldn't have taken anything from his time, to kill Morel. The best scenario and least risky one, was to kill Morel with a fast attack, since Morel might interfere in the future. I think Morel was supposed to die, but Togashi didn't carry it out and changed his mind or he really just likes not to finish battles. There is no reason for Morel not to die in this situation. You maybe so sure that Pouf could kill Morel in one hit but what I am saying is that Pouf wasn't underestimating Morel back then even though he was in an advantage by attacking behind Morel. I can't even imagine Pouf killing Morel with a fast attack. Sure maybe Pouf's nen cannot be compared to Morel's but Morel has hundred times of experience than Pouf. If Pouf attacked Morel as if he intended to kill him then Pouf would've need to produce a good amount of aura and a murderous intent which of course Morel would have sensed as a veteran hunter he is. That would not just make Pouf waste his time but also Morel would be on his guard knowing that Pouf can target him anytime and Pouf wouldn't be able to steal his pipe anymore. Maybe I'm overestimating Morel, maybe I'm underestimating Pouf but my theory seems to be logical to me at least. If you think that doesn't make sense then I can't really do much. judals said: Maybe. I have no idea what Togashi was thinking back then. Was it ever stated in the Manga? I read the Manga four years ago and I can't even remember how Youpi was defeated. I only remember the conclusion of this arc lol.MgZ that's not the case, it's more of a "let's keep him alive for interrogation in case he had used a "persistent" ability on the king and might endanger him. Somewhat crippling him is better than killing him. Persistent as in smoke jail, hakoware, hotel rafsomething, judgement chain, genthru's countdown, etc... Pouf unlike the others has no idea what's going on, being confined and all, so he needs to be cautious. |
| Don't know, haven't read it (yet). Oh I'd like to add to my other post: Another thing is that Pouf was not in his full body/strength. |
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| I was thinking, Pouf's ability to split himself up could have great offensive capabilities, he could easily enter the orifices of Morel's body and attack him from within. |
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| Can he penetrate the Nen shroud though? |
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gedata said: I was thinking, Pouf's ability to split himself up could have great offensive capabilities, he could easily enter the orifices of Morel's body and attack him from within. maybe if Morel can't use Nen to Surround his body |
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judals said: Kuchenlight said: While I always liked that developement in the manga, I never was really satisfied with it. Like someone stated, Morel may be real badass expierenced, but Pouf still should be a LOT stronger than him and therefore I always thought he should "just" have defeated him. Just because Pouf never really does something that makes him seem superstrong like Pitou or Youpi, he still is a Royal Guard and stronger then all the humans that have invaded (except for Netero and MAYBE Zeno). Gon's oh-so-scary stare wouldn't help at all if Pouf were to attack him. He only had one shot. One hit. After that Morel AND his clones would react. If he were to attack directly, he'd have to finish him off with 1 hit. In case you haven't noticed, in order to sneak up on someone, you'd at least need to conceal your nen with zetsu, at least until the stealth is done. So nen force is out the window. What else do we have? He could have snapped his neck, but is he fast enough to grab him without morel reacting? I don't know. He could have attacked with aura at the last second, but we have nothing to show his offensive capabilities. All his abilities are for a larger scope, and all are indirect. Another reason might be that he did not want to kill him; they'd keep him alive for information. He doesn't need to use zetsu, his clones are everywhere, Morel can't tell which one is the real Pouf. Also you don't really need an offensive ability in a nen battle, Hisoka kills people with nen cards, Pitou destroyed Kite with basic nen. Nen technique like Shu and Ko will do the trick and one hit is all he needs to take of Morel's head. Really I don't see why Pouf had to go through all that trouble, he could have stayed in the smoke jail and finish Morel. The only explanation I can think of is that Pouf was still in shock from being trapped and not knowing how the King is doing and thus chose a bad strategy but my guess is that Togashi wanted to kill him off but decided to keep him alive for something bigger. |
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dark-chaos said: gedata said: I was thinking, Pouf's ability to split himself up could have great offensive capabilities, he could easily enter the orifices of Morel's body and attack him from within. maybe if Morel can't use Nen to Surround his body lol forgot |
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judals said: He only had one shot. One hit. After that Morel AND his clones would react. If he were to attack directly, he'd have to finish him off with 1 hit. In case you haven't noticed, in order to sneak up on someone, you'd at least need to conceal your nen with zetsu, at least until the stealth is done. So nen force is out the window. What else do we have? He could have snapped his neck, but is he fast enough to grab him without morel reacting? I don't know. He could have attacked with aura at the last second, but we have nothing to show his offensive capabilities. All his abilities are for a larger scope, and all are indirect. First of all, I doubt he only had 1 hit to finish of Morel. He MAY be more delicate then Pitou and Youpi, maybe even by far. But him being a Royal Guard almost guarantees that he won't be beaten just by a counter of Morel and his clones. Morel isn't THAT strong in raw power. Pouf breaking all these rocks with ease when the Dragon Dive hit the palace also shows that he is probably SOMEWHERE near the level of the other two Royal Guards in terms of power. Combine that with his intellect, which is also at least an even match for Morel's and their is no real need for special offensive abilites. The Royal Guards are way out of their league. Which isn't to say he definitively would've won. But it's not like he had no options or anything. The information argument is better, even though nothing indicates this. And Pouf wasn't at his full strength? He only was because he decided to split up in all those flies. My point right from the beginning was that I don't think he needed to do that in the first place. Or am I mixing up something about that last part? I gotta admit, I'm not sure right now. |
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